Hmm...I don't know what side I'm on with this. It's a great idea for unifying the Women's championship and tag team championships for the lack women and tag team contenders. For one thing, I can see the IC/US Championships be combined. Why not? It creates more feuds between superstars and if you think about it, you'll see more superstars without title matches in PPVs. Both titles have history and it would be a shame to lose the prestige of both titles. I can not see the WHC/WWE Championships combined because it'll just be a mess to begin with. Even though you'll have probably high quality matches, there will be too much contenders. Also, the show without the champion will probably suffer most with this unification. The only way this could work if they unify both shows like Rckstrtmmy said. I'm sort of in the middle with this because unifying the rest of the titles has its pros and cons. The women's titles should be unified though.
*MERGED* [OFFICIAL] WWE Title Unification/Possible Brand Unification Discussion
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RayneJames81
Occasional Pre-Show
Hmmm this intrigues me in lots of different ways. I can see both the positive and negative to the merging of all titles. I like the Divas division alot in the WWE and i think unifying both the Womens/Divas title could be a possible bad thing for some of the more deserved divas(Jillian, Natalya, Tamina, & Gail) Recently we lost the great Mickie James, Katie Lea, Maria, and Serena, and this with two titles and "more" opportunity, I fear the divas division is going to decrease yet again, and it wont be the "Lesser" talented ones going either. I also think this goes for the mens division as well. Not as many titles=not many contenders, so alot will get pushed to the side and get no or not good story lines. I hope instead, it will bring a different mix to the challengers for the womens or divas title, which ever they keep(me thinks its going to be the Divas title sticking around folks, hence the name the ladies are referred to) and get some NEW men into the IC and World title scene!
I think it is a great idea. It'd give a bit more weight to all the belts and, hopefully, the intercontinental championship would start being worth a shit again! They definitely wouldn't have the same problem with the intercont. as they had with the tag champs (which was not having enough people to compete for it). It would be good if some of the filler on the roster was just filtered into tag teams.
Andy 2 Randy
Pre-Show Stalwart
I dont mind the idea of the World Title being unified...again...it would make loads of interbrand feuds, even the old Smackdown vs Raw conflict again, which if worked well can be amazing.
But not so sure about the US/Intercontinental, It keeps midcarders in feuds without them becoming jobbers to the Cena's and Ortons, and then becoming the Jimmy wang yangs and Slam Master J's (Future Endevoured), i like the fact that two different storys can take place in two brands for two equal titles, it gives all guys a fighting chance.
I can't really say anything about the Tag/Women because there taking place...but the Big E can't unify every title...can they?...I'm Just Sayin...
But not so sure about the US/Intercontinental, It keeps midcarders in feuds without them becoming jobbers to the Cena's and Ortons, and then becoming the Jimmy wang yangs and Slam Master J's (Future Endevoured), i like the fact that two different storys can take place in two brands for two equal titles, it gives all guys a fighting chance.
I can't really say anything about the Tag/Women because there taking place...but the Big E can't unify every title...can they?...I'm Just Sayin...
Every now and again the WWE go out of their way to remind me why monopolies are bad for everyone and how much lack of respect they have for the fans and the business.
We know what titles will be kept and I think pissing on WCW yet again is going to come back and bite the WWE in the ass. There are some titles that are utterly useless and need(ed) to be merged like the women Titles (which coincidentally have no women to fight over them) and the Tag Titles since the WWE has maybe 2 tag teams in the company. I always thought the brand extension has been one of the stupidest idea's Vince ever had since he's basically crippling his own product. On the other hand, I can see how having 2 touring groups like how the circus does things make business sense.
Does this mean that the brand split is going goodbye? For all of our sakes I hope so, Superstars debuted with the premise that we'd see mixed promotion matches , not 1 match from each promotion. Perhpas with unification this can become a reality.
However, I feel sorry for all the mid carders, with less titles to chase there will be plenty of future endeavored stars who just don't have a place any longer.
I also wonder if this means the WWE womans title will be retired again. It needs to be, they aren't investing in it and they can honestly use the TV time for other talents that they would invest in. They have a bunch of valets wrestling anyway, it'd be nice to stop embarrassing them and let them be the T&A they were hired to be, while the more accomplished women can go to TNA to redeem themselves.
We know what titles will be kept and I think pissing on WCW yet again is going to come back and bite the WWE in the ass. There are some titles that are utterly useless and need(ed) to be merged like the women Titles (which coincidentally have no women to fight over them) and the Tag Titles since the WWE has maybe 2 tag teams in the company. I always thought the brand extension has been one of the stupidest idea's Vince ever had since he's basically crippling his own product. On the other hand, I can see how having 2 touring groups like how the circus does things make business sense.
Does this mean that the brand split is going goodbye? For all of our sakes I hope so, Superstars debuted with the premise that we'd see mixed promotion matches , not 1 match from each promotion. Perhpas with unification this can become a reality.
However, I feel sorry for all the mid carders, with less titles to chase there will be plenty of future endeavored stars who just don't have a place any longer.
I also wonder if this means the WWE womans title will be retired again. It needs to be, they aren't investing in it and they can honestly use the TV time for other talents that they would invest in. They have a bunch of valets wrestling anyway, it'd be nice to stop embarrassing them and let them be the T&A they were hired to be, while the more accomplished women can go to TNA to redeem themselves.
MWRedskins
Mid-Card Championship Winner
As a WWE fan i would be VERY angry if WWE unified ALL the titles. First off 3 champions means, more seeing them on two shows (not good for the wrestler) and also less pushes. Look at it like this. HOW does guys like CM Punk, Drew McIntyre, Cody Rhodes, Ted Dibiase and others get pushes for the WWE title when Triple H, Randy Orton and John Cena are still there???? they cant which means they midcard, ok, so then you hold back guys like Daniel Bryan and others because you only have two titles. I think they should unify the Tag Titles and Women's because of the lack of great women and Tag teams in WWE, BUT they should keep the other belts and not unify them. The IC title is credible with Kofi and Dolph fighting for it and the US title will be credible when Daniel Bryan wins it.
Chris Kennedy Himself
Occasional Pre-Show
If the world titles are unified, for the love of god keep the IC and US titles seperate. The WWE used to have the European and IC title, they can have the IC and US title. Before the brand split, the European title was WWE's secondary midcard title, just replace it's role with the more prestigious US title.
The Calgary Kid
Pre-Show Stalwart
I see plusses and minuses on either end. I think that unifying the roster itself and disposing of the brand extension system could be a good move. There are Raw guys that would have great feuds with some of the Smackdown guys, and vice versa. Unifying the titles would probably facilitate this. I also have never really been high on the idea of two world champions (and hate the "big gold belt" almost as much as the "spinner" belt). I'm mixed on the idea of unifying the mid-card titles.
With two world titles, we've seen guys get pushes too early in order to establish credibility among Superstars on the separate brands. Sheamus wasn't ready for his first reign, and Swagger certainly wasn't, either. Having to bolster the mid-card with two titles that are brand exclusive has also resulted in crap like McIntyre winning the IC title long before he ever should have (which destroyed re-established credibility for the title after Mysterio/Jericho battled over it, and buried Morrison in the process). If the playing field was leveled, people with more credibility fighting for the titles might give them more prestige, and allow for the journey to contendership to be a better opportunity for guys to get over. Freeing up mid-carders also allows for more tag team matches, and with time, could help rebuild that division.
Meanwhile, people talk about "great" non-title feuds. Remember what happened in the old days when main event guys had nothing to do between titles? We got stuff like Bret Hart vs. Jean-Pierre La Fitte, and Undertaker vs. Mr. Hughes. I certainly don't want to go that route again. While the titles are gaining credibility, those not competing for them might suffer. People are also forgetting that Cena would still probably have the title 60% of the time. I'm not sure how the hell that would help anything.
Unifying the Divas and Women's titles is a good move, in my opinion. By my count, there are 16 Divas, some of which don't wrestle and some of which have no credibility. On Smackdown, we have three Divas who aren't LayCool, one of whom is suspended, and another is Rosa Mendes. Sure, Beth is coming back, but not for another two months or so. There is no competition over there, and on Raw, I have no interest in things getting to the point where we're giving titles to the Bellas. Having one tag title is obvious, and I don't need to address that.
In summation, I see the benefits of universal unification and ending the brand extension to have high points, and also potential low points. It would take some serious hard work on Creative's part in order to make everything fall into place and make sense. We're talking about WWE here though, so it's hard to say just how well it would all turn out.
With two world titles, we've seen guys get pushes too early in order to establish credibility among Superstars on the separate brands. Sheamus wasn't ready for his first reign, and Swagger certainly wasn't, either. Having to bolster the mid-card with two titles that are brand exclusive has also resulted in crap like McIntyre winning the IC title long before he ever should have (which destroyed re-established credibility for the title after Mysterio/Jericho battled over it, and buried Morrison in the process). If the playing field was leveled, people with more credibility fighting for the titles might give them more prestige, and allow for the journey to contendership to be a better opportunity for guys to get over. Freeing up mid-carders also allows for more tag team matches, and with time, could help rebuild that division.
Meanwhile, people talk about "great" non-title feuds. Remember what happened in the old days when main event guys had nothing to do between titles? We got stuff like Bret Hart vs. Jean-Pierre La Fitte, and Undertaker vs. Mr. Hughes. I certainly don't want to go that route again. While the titles are gaining credibility, those not competing for them might suffer. People are also forgetting that Cena would still probably have the title 60% of the time. I'm not sure how the hell that would help anything.
Unifying the Divas and Women's titles is a good move, in my opinion. By my count, there are 16 Divas, some of which don't wrestle and some of which have no credibility. On Smackdown, we have three Divas who aren't LayCool, one of whom is suspended, and another is Rosa Mendes. Sure, Beth is coming back, but not for another two months or so. There is no competition over there, and on Raw, I have no interest in things getting to the point where we're giving titles to the Bellas. Having one tag title is obvious, and I don't need to address that.
In summation, I see the benefits of universal unification and ending the brand extension to have high points, and also potential low points. It would take some serious hard work on Creative's part in order to make everything fall into place and make sense. We're talking about WWE here though, so it's hard to say just how well it would all turn out.
SpoodBeest
City Dweller, Successful Fella
It's usually a good thing when titles are you unified. Two sets of tag team titles weren't needed and two different titles in the women's division weren't need either. The amount of tag team in WWE has decreased so much over the last few years that unifying the two sets together made a lot of sense. Now we are expecting to see a unification match that will unify the women's title with the diva's title to I guess make a undisputed women's champion. In the end I guess that the champion will have a similar role as the tag team champions, as in getting to defend the belt and appear on both shows of the WWE. Unification is a good thing when there are two belts that are seemingly useless because the division isn't big enough for two belts. Which is why the tag team belts were unified and why the women's division titles will be unified at Night of Champions.
Now if WWE were to unify the two world titles at WreslteMania 27 it would have to be a huge main event match. Eventually somewhere down the road The Undertaker will take the title off of Kane and rise to the top of SmackDown again. I'm sure by the time he wins it back his title reign will steadily go on into the next year. While John Cena perhaps win the Rumble again as well as the WWE title or just win the title heading into WrestleMania. Cena then decides that he wants to make history with The Deadman at WreslteMania as the world titles in WWE will be unified by the end of the night. It would be an epic encounter and would also provide WWE with a way to make a Cena vs. Taker match happen at Mania. It would simply be huge for the show and a perfect route to take if the titles were to get unified.
Singles titles are an issues though when it does come to unification. For the two world titles, on both brands there are many main event calibre performers that contend for those belts. The same goes for mid-card performers battling over the mid-card titles. There are two many singles stars on both shows to warrant only one title in each division of the entire roster. If you think some wrestlers get lost in the shuffle now, just wait and see what happens to a lot of them when only one title per division is around. The unification of all titles would also mark the end of the brand extension in WWE. There are pros and cons with unifying all titles. As of right now the roster is far too full to unify any of the singles titles because having two of them is sure as hell doing a better job than one.
Now if WWE were to unify the two world titles at WreslteMania 27 it would have to be a huge main event match. Eventually somewhere down the road The Undertaker will take the title off of Kane and rise to the top of SmackDown again. I'm sure by the time he wins it back his title reign will steadily go on into the next year. While John Cena perhaps win the Rumble again as well as the WWE title or just win the title heading into WrestleMania. Cena then decides that he wants to make history with The Deadman at WreslteMania as the world titles in WWE will be unified by the end of the night. It would be an epic encounter and would also provide WWE with a way to make a Cena vs. Taker match happen at Mania. It would simply be huge for the show and a perfect route to take if the titles were to get unified.
Singles titles are an issues though when it does come to unification. For the two world titles, on both brands there are many main event calibre performers that contend for those belts. The same goes for mid-card performers battling over the mid-card titles. There are two many singles stars on both shows to warrant only one title in each division of the entire roster. If you think some wrestlers get lost in the shuffle now, just wait and see what happens to a lot of them when only one title per division is around. The unification of all titles would also mark the end of the brand extension in WWE. There are pros and cons with unifying all titles. As of right now the roster is far too full to unify any of the singles titles because having two of them is sure as hell doing a better job than one.
Chris Kennedy Himself
Occasional Pre-Show
Vince and the WWE owes absolutely nothing to WCW, a rival company that tried like the devil to put the WWE out of business. Considering that, WWE has done more than enough to honor a dead promotion.
If WCW had won, I fucking promise you that you wouldn't see the WWE title and the Intercontinental title on Nitro, but the WWE has showcased WCW's title as one of it's top two belts and the US title was even given a home in the WWE.
Eric Bischoff, a dipshit dumbfuck ****** with terrible judgement, spent years bad mouthing Vince, only to come to him for a job when all was said and done. And guess what, Vince hired him.
So, WCW has not been pissed on by the WWE, WWE won and still shows good sportsmanship to a long dead promotion. WCW gets showcased more on WWE onDemand than the 'E does for christ sake.
I swear, you guys must want ALL WCW titles in tact, I am sick of hearing about The World Heavyweight having a better history than the WWE title (it doesn't, it just looks cooler), I am sick of hearing about the lack of prestige in the US title (it was never as prestigious as the IC title anyway) and I am sick of hearing people clammer on about that goddamn Cruiserweight title.
It's as if some people would like The WWE to make it: wCw Friday Night Smackdown
When I first read this I was completely against it. As the WWE will keep the WWE Title when the WWE and WHC are unified, and it's being rumored that they will keep the Intercontinental and the US title will be history. I don't like the idea of that, as ALL 4 titles have a TON of history.
However, the more I thought about it, the more I like this idea. Here is why.
1.) Championship matches will hopefully matter again and the belts wont just be props. All 4 titles have been traded back and fourth so much without very many meaningful feuds that they just do not matter. At this point, I could care less who is US, IC, WWE, or WHC champion. WWE hasn't made me care in a long time, this is especially true for the US and IC titles.
2.) The WWE Title will hopefully get a new design. The current spinner belt is stale and flat out ugly. If I were a wrestler, I wouldn't want to have to carry that ugly thing around with me.
3.) We will get more feuds that don't revolve around a championship, which is great. Also, wrestlers who aren't competing for a championship could get a chance to be on PPVs more often.
4.) The IC title will hopefully become relevant again. Guys that wouldn't be competing for the WWE Title or looking to become number one contender for the WWE Title could challenge for the IC title. So main event level guys could become IC champion, making the title mean something again.
5.) Have the possibility of seeing IC Champion vs WWE Champion matches...I.E. Hulk Hogan vs Ultimate Warrior
However, the more I thought about it, the more I like this idea. Here is why.
1.) Championship matches will hopefully matter again and the belts wont just be props. All 4 titles have been traded back and fourth so much without very many meaningful feuds that they just do not matter. At this point, I could care less who is US, IC, WWE, or WHC champion. WWE hasn't made me care in a long time, this is especially true for the US and IC titles.
2.) The WWE Title will hopefully get a new design. The current spinner belt is stale and flat out ugly. If I were a wrestler, I wouldn't want to have to carry that ugly thing around with me.
3.) We will get more feuds that don't revolve around a championship, which is great. Also, wrestlers who aren't competing for a championship could get a chance to be on PPVs more often.
4.) The IC title will hopefully become relevant again. Guys that wouldn't be competing for the WWE Title or looking to become number one contender for the WWE Title could challenge for the IC title. So main event level guys could become IC champion, making the title mean something again.
5.) Have the possibility of seeing IC Champion vs WWE Champion matches...I.E. Hulk Hogan vs Ultimate Warrior
I think its a great idea to unify the titles and for several reasons.
More exposure for the champion
The champion of his tier would be able to be on every show and could get more exposure that way. Think of the wonders it could do for a midcarder that is trying to break his way into the Main event or even just become a more solid champion.
There would be more competition
No longer would the title be contested between only a few key people, but with the 2 rosters it will be contested with everyone. This will also open up more possibilities for exciting matches such as: Sheamus VS The Undertaker, Triple H Vs Rey Mysterio, CM Punk vs Randy Orton, and my favorite possibility in John Cena Vs The Undertaker. The added competition will also add more prestige to the belt as everyone in the company will be aspiring to get that single belt.
More non-title feuds
Having only one belt per tier would open up more room on the cards for non title feud which will make for great television. Remember the feuds of old that were just for personal reasons or to see whom was the better man. Also this will open up many more possibilities for feuds just to see who the number one contender will be. Remember the awesome best of seven Benoit and Booker T had just to get to see who would face Fit Finlay for the WCW United States Championship? This would be incredible television.
and finally
Better ratings
People would tune in just to see who is fighting for the belt now, and this would carry over into shows such as Smackdown where a ratings boost is much needed. Imagine if John Cena could wrestle on both Raw and Smackdown and interact with both audiences. That would bring big ratings. Especially if you also have people like Randy Orton and Triple H coming over to the shows and doing run ins or wrestling for the number 1 contendership.
So yes I think this is an excellent idea, one to which I am looking forward too if it occurs. And Im sure many others will be looking forward to it as well.
More exposure for the champion
The champion of his tier would be able to be on every show and could get more exposure that way. Think of the wonders it could do for a midcarder that is trying to break his way into the Main event or even just become a more solid champion.
There would be more competition
No longer would the title be contested between only a few key people, but with the 2 rosters it will be contested with everyone. This will also open up more possibilities for exciting matches such as: Sheamus VS The Undertaker, Triple H Vs Rey Mysterio, CM Punk vs Randy Orton, and my favorite possibility in John Cena Vs The Undertaker. The added competition will also add more prestige to the belt as everyone in the company will be aspiring to get that single belt.
More non-title feuds
Having only one belt per tier would open up more room on the cards for non title feud which will make for great television. Remember the feuds of old that were just for personal reasons or to see whom was the better man. Also this will open up many more possibilities for feuds just to see who the number one contender will be. Remember the awesome best of seven Benoit and Booker T had just to get to see who would face Fit Finlay for the WCW United States Championship? This would be incredible television.
and finally
Better ratings
People would tune in just to see who is fighting for the belt now, and this would carry over into shows such as Smackdown where a ratings boost is much needed. Imagine if John Cena could wrestle on both Raw and Smackdown and interact with both audiences. That would bring big ratings. Especially if you also have people like Randy Orton and Triple H coming over to the shows and doing run ins or wrestling for the number 1 contendership.
So yes I think this is an excellent idea, one to which I am looking forward too if it occurs. And Im sure many others will be looking forward to it as well.
LongLiveTheStreak
Pre-Show Stalwart
This could be both a good thing and a bad thing.
It colud be a good thing for the sake of the women's division. With a total of about 15 divas on th roster, there is no need and there has never been a need for the Diva's championship. Not to mantion the fact that Laycool has destroyed the women's title beypund repair. The Fabulous Moolah must be turning over in her grave knowing what the title she held for three decades has been reduced to.
On the other hand, unless "title unification" also means "brand merger" then I can also see this being a bad thing. Because during the early days of the brand extention, the Undisputed Champion would defend his title against a Raw wrestler at a ppv, then a Smackdown at the next. I don't see that working today and I dont know what else could be done. And if they are giong to drop some titles, that would make Creative have to come up with more non-title storylines. And I don't think today's WWE creative team can handle that.
It colud be a good thing for the sake of the women's division. With a total of about 15 divas on th roster, there is no need and there has never been a need for the Diva's championship. Not to mantion the fact that Laycool has destroyed the women's title beypund repair. The Fabulous Moolah must be turning over in her grave knowing what the title she held for three decades has been reduced to.
On the other hand, unless "title unification" also means "brand merger" then I can also see this being a bad thing. Because during the early days of the brand extention, the Undisputed Champion would defend his title against a Raw wrestler at a ppv, then a Smackdown at the next. I don't see that working today and I dont know what else could be done. And if they are giong to drop some titles, that would make Creative have to come up with more non-title storylines. And I don't think today's WWE creative team can handle that.
WWEIsLife2
Championship Contender
If this does happen it might not be such a Bad thing. This not the first time WWE has Unified some Belts as they seem to do this every couple of Years. I think one WWE Title,IC Title,Tag Titles,and Womens Title would be good. Plus im sure all 4 Titles would be Defended on Both Shows and non-title Feuds would probably be good as well.
I support the idea of unifying all the belts, but a few things have to happen in order for it to work properly:
1. The brand split would have to end. Having every champion defend his/her title on 2 distinct brands would be kinda weird, and wouldn't make much sense, unless every Championship match is a triple-threat match every time.
2. They're gonna have to do a lot of fat-trimming. There's way too many wrestlers on the roster to justify having only 5 titles. They'd probably have to cut AT LEAST 10-15 guys, and probably a couple Divas. It can't be just the jobbers either, a few mid-carders would have to go too.
3. All titles should be defended on every single PPV. With only 5 titles in all, there's little to no reason they can't make this happen. Even with roster cuts, there will still be more than enough wrestlers to keep title feuds fresh. This would mean the end of NOC, but I'm sure they can come up with another concept.
4. WWE Creative will have to really step up their game. There's gonna be alot of wrestlers lost in the shuffle, and Creative will have to find a way to keep them happy and relevant.
1. The brand split would have to end. Having every champion defend his/her title on 2 distinct brands would be kinda weird, and wouldn't make much sense, unless every Championship match is a triple-threat match every time.
2. They're gonna have to do a lot of fat-trimming. There's way too many wrestlers on the roster to justify having only 5 titles. They'd probably have to cut AT LEAST 10-15 guys, and probably a couple Divas. It can't be just the jobbers either, a few mid-carders would have to go too.
3. All titles should be defended on every single PPV. With only 5 titles in all, there's little to no reason they can't make this happen. Even with roster cuts, there will still be more than enough wrestlers to keep title feuds fresh. This would mean the end of NOC, but I'm sure they can come up with another concept.
4. WWE Creative will have to really step up their game. There's gonna be alot of wrestlers lost in the shuffle, and Creative will have to find a way to keep them happy and relevant.
CustardCreamer
New Member
Unifiying will be bad for ratings! The main reason for this is say the World Champ is Cena (Raw guy) geuding with Barret (Raw guy) then Smackdown has no major storyline. Plus how can guys break into the world title picture now...its hard enough now without having to fight past many others.
The Cutting Edge
Dark Match Jobber
I personally think that its a horrible idea to unify every title. They might as well be unifying the brands too because when the title (or titles) is on one brand, the other brands superstar will just keep on coming back week after week to gain the upper hand when he or she should really be on their own brand challenging the top title there. Also people that deserve to be pushed on their respective brands would probably never get a chance to gain any of the mid card titles that could possibly push them to the next level. And besides the new title scene would just be taken over by the same people that crowd the main event scene on raw
Viola Moonlight
I'm Literally Just Here for WZCW
As many have said, the only way for the entire set of belts to be unified is if they remove the brand extension. There would be more high-caliber feuds on the television set each week and only the best of the best survive, instead of having some people given leeway. It could be bad for a lot of the roster as they wouldn't be needed, but at least the E can get some huge savings from it. If they do this, I'm all for it.
However, if they keep the brand extension then I'm not sure whether unifying all the championships would be such a good idea. You'd have to keep at least one set of divisional belts separated so each show as a brand-exclusive championship. Considering that there are a lot more mid-card wrestlers than main eventers, keeping the IC and US titles would be quite beneficial. Unifying the World Championships would mean that some ME's would drop down a division, and the people who compete for the mid-card titles would make it look prestigious again. Hell, the IC and US titles could be the brand's focal point if they wanted too.
Unify everything if they are ending the split. If they don't, they might need to do their SD! tapings in the same arena as RAW (keeping all the roster together) so the unified champion has a chance of going to both shows and not being tired from extensive traveling.
However, if they keep the brand extension then I'm not sure whether unifying all the championships would be such a good idea. You'd have to keep at least one set of divisional belts separated so each show as a brand-exclusive championship. Considering that there are a lot more mid-card wrestlers than main eventers, keeping the IC and US titles would be quite beneficial. Unifying the World Championships would mean that some ME's would drop down a division, and the people who compete for the mid-card titles would make it look prestigious again. Hell, the IC and US titles could be the brand's focal point if they wanted too.
Unify everything if they are ending the split. If they don't, they might need to do their SD! tapings in the same arena as RAW (keeping all the roster together) so the unified champion has a chance of going to both shows and not being tired from extensive traveling.
I really don't know how I feel about this. I like that they are unifying the Womens/Divas belts, and the Tag team championships.... but I just don't know about the Mid Card belts and the World belts. Sure it would be great to have the titles be able to be defended on both brands, and that way a lot more stars will be exposed. We won't have all the stars we have today in the near future, and this is most likely a way to develop new stars while keeping your current main eventers very credible.
This might make shows more crowded, but I doubt it. It'll just make the title pictures much deeper, and not as monotonous as they can sometimes be. Having one world championship would make the champ seem much more exclusive and legit. Maybe if this happens the Intercontinental Champ can be the number one contender like he used to be. Remember the days of SCSA as champ and a guy like HHH carrying the IC Belt and being the next guy in line? Yeah, that is a great way to legitimize all the belts.
This idea has somewhat grown on me now. The brands won't matter, it'll all be a matter of who you've beaten and if you're the next person in line for a certain belt or not.
This might make shows more crowded, but I doubt it. It'll just make the title pictures much deeper, and not as monotonous as they can sometimes be. Having one world championship would make the champ seem much more exclusive and legit. Maybe if this happens the Intercontinental Champ can be the number one contender like he used to be. Remember the days of SCSA as champ and a guy like HHH carrying the IC Belt and being the next guy in line? Yeah, that is a great way to legitimize all the belts.
This idea has somewhat grown on me now. The brands won't matter, it'll all be a matter of who you've beaten and if you're the next person in line for a certain belt or not.
Why Always Me
WWF Champion
This has made my day (check my sig).
I am wondering whether this means the end of the brand extension - I hope so.
Im sure if the WWE were worried about not having time for everyone they could add an extra half hour to Raw and Smackdown, maybe use Superstars more, or bring back Heat or Velocity.
I think that two mid-card titles will be needed though, obviously the Intercontinental Title will stay, its whether the US Title becomes the new version of the European Title, or if the WWE will bring in something like the Television Title (which would be awesome). I would also like to see the Cruiserweight Title return for the likes of Evan Bourne, Yoshi Tatsu and Kaval.
One final thing, when the WWE and World Titles are unified, I hope they simply call the champion the WWE Champion - I hated it when the Undisputed Title was around and the champion was called the WWE Undisputed Title, there is no need to add the Undisputed bit - much the same as when the Tag Champs were known as the Unified Tag team Champions, no need.
But all in all, a great move, can't wait.
I am wondering whether this means the end of the brand extension - I hope so.
Im sure if the WWE were worried about not having time for everyone they could add an extra half hour to Raw and Smackdown, maybe use Superstars more, or bring back Heat or Velocity.
I think that two mid-card titles will be needed though, obviously the Intercontinental Title will stay, its whether the US Title becomes the new version of the European Title, or if the WWE will bring in something like the Television Title (which would be awesome). I would also like to see the Cruiserweight Title return for the likes of Evan Bourne, Yoshi Tatsu and Kaval.
One final thing, when the WWE and World Titles are unified, I hope they simply call the champion the WWE Champion - I hated it when the Undisputed Title was around and the champion was called the WWE Undisputed Title, there is no need to add the Undisputed bit - much the same as when the Tag Champs were known as the Unified Tag team Champions, no need.
But all in all, a great move, can't wait.
Glad to see WWE has finally realized the brand extension was massive fail. The brand exclusive PPV's were terrible outside of some Raw ones. The Raw roster was pretty stacked from 02-04, but after that, both rosters were just depleted. It's been that way for a while now. It was really only a good idea in 01-02 because of all the influx of guys from ECW, WCW, etc.
I like one set of Tag Team belts, one Divas belt, and one World title. What I don't like is getting rid of the US title. WWE had two midcard belts back in the day with the IC and European title, in addition to the Hardcore and Cruiserweight titles. I think it's stupid to just have one midcard belt. Not only is it stupid to get rid of the US title because of it's rich history, but because why get rid of it when it can be used to elevate another midcarder?
I like the idea of coming back to a single brand though. WWE has needed to do this for several years now. It will make the champions and the championships way more credible, and we won't see all these guys win 10, 12, or 14 world titles.
I like one set of Tag Team belts, one Divas belt, and one World title. What I don't like is getting rid of the US title. WWE had two midcard belts back in the day with the IC and European title, in addition to the Hardcore and Cruiserweight titles. I think it's stupid to just have one midcard belt. Not only is it stupid to get rid of the US title because of it's rich history, but because why get rid of it when it can be used to elevate another midcarder?
I like the idea of coming back to a single brand though. WWE has needed to do this for several years now. It will make the champions and the championships way more credible, and we won't see all these guys win 10, 12, or 14 world titles.
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Guys, just because the titles are being unified doesn't mean that both brands are merging for sure. it'd be silly to jump to conclusions this early in the game.
I'm going to stop you right there. They owe WCW everything..everything.
The WWE product was horribly outdated at the time that WCW was kicking their ass. WCW made WWF get with the times, and thus the attitude era was born. We know the rest of the story from there so I won't get into it.
I know I'm in the wrong section for this, but there is absolutely no doubt in my mind that NWA-WCW World title had more prestige in terms of the legends who held it. Hogan was the man in the 80's, but no way in hell he was better than Race, Flair or Vader, just more popular.
WWE doesn't acknowledge the NWA though so I might be imagining this...
In any case, retiring the big gold belt should never happen. I'd much prefer they rename it the WWE championship and roll all that history into 1 belt, it's a nice nod to the past and lets face it, it looks way better than the current WWE championship belt, and historically it always has.
The US title absolutely needs to be seperate from the IC title. Too much history to throw away there on both ends.
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How is the Split been a Fail? Its given tons of chances to all the Young guys WWE is pushing today to be on RAW & Smackdown each week and gotten guys like CM Punk & Jack Swagger into PPV Main Events. For all the people saying this will end the Brand Extension is a little pre-mature right now. The more I think about this Story the more I need to wait and see if they actually do it. Sure the Tag & Womens Titles are/will be Unified but lets wait and see if the others will be too.
I'm kind of torn on this. Unifying the WWE titles will give the championships more prestige, but I'm not so sure it could be a good thing, especially when it comes to the WWE and World Heavyweight Championships. The last time WWE had an Undisputed world title, only the cream of the crop were able to the wear the gold. The Undertaker, Triple H, Chris Jericho, Hulk Hogan, The Rock, and Brock Lesnar were all WWE/WWF Undisputed Champions. Those are some big names, and while I do strongly believe John Cena, Edge, and Randy Orton will become Undisputed champions, what's going to happen to everyone else? If only the elite in WWE are going to be champion, then what's going to happen to the rest of the mid carders in WWE? Will we ever see Swagger and Punk become world champions again? Will The Miz be able to shine in all of this? Also, you have to factor in Triple H and The Undertaker(if he's still around). You know there's a good chance they might become Undisputed champions again, and Kane could be a wild card in all of this.
Unifying the Women's titles is a good move on WWE's part. The women's division on Smackdown is pretty dead, because it's just become LayCool, and everyone else, and there are very few Divas who can go in the ring in WWE, so I really don't have a problem with WWE doing this. I have similar feelings when it comes to the tag titles. WWE really doesn't have too many true tag teams. The Dudebusters, Archer & Hawkins, The Usos, and The Hart Dynasty are the only true tag teams in WWE. When they decided to unify the belts last year, I didn't have a problem with it, because Vince doesn't really put too much emphasis on tag team wrestling these days, so having two sets of title belts wasn't really necessary. Unifying the IC championship and US championships is going to make competition a lot more fierce in the mid card.
Unifying all of the championships can bring a lot of prestige, but at the same time, I think only the best of the best are going to wear these titles. This is going to be a big deal when it comes to the world title, because I seriously don't think just anyone will be given a run with that belt, and if your name isn't Orton or Cena, then your dreams of being a world champion in the WWE might not come true. All of the other titles will make the mid card look stronger, but again, I don't think we'll see just anybody be given a title.
Unifying the Women's titles is a good move on WWE's part. The women's division on Smackdown is pretty dead, because it's just become LayCool, and everyone else, and there are very few Divas who can go in the ring in WWE, so I really don't have a problem with WWE doing this. I have similar feelings when it comes to the tag titles. WWE really doesn't have too many true tag teams. The Dudebusters, Archer & Hawkins, The Usos, and The Hart Dynasty are the only true tag teams in WWE. When they decided to unify the belts last year, I didn't have a problem with it, because Vince doesn't really put too much emphasis on tag team wrestling these days, so having two sets of title belts wasn't really necessary. Unifying the IC championship and US championships is going to make competition a lot more fierce in the mid card.
Unifying all of the championships can bring a lot of prestige, but at the same time, I think only the best of the best are going to wear these titles. This is going to be a big deal when it comes to the world title, because I seriously don't think just anyone will be given a run with that belt, and if your name isn't Orton or Cena, then your dreams of being a world champion in the WWE might not come true. All of the other titles will make the mid card look stronger, but again, I don't think we'll see just anybody be given a title.
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