**Merged** All John Morrison Discussion

[TheLambofDeth]

Morrison, for all intents and purposes has become the white Shelton Benjamin. Benjamin was kept around for the ocassional high spot and relied upon to put on a decent match from time to time. Which, unless soething drastically changes, is currently all Morrison has to offer. Think about it, Morrison's been around since what '04? Look at how many people have leap froged past him in the title chase. He hasn't even had a title since '09. But why?

Since I don't reside backstage at a WWE lockeroom I won't base all this on how what Vince thinks of him personally, since I don't know that. The reason Morrison just isn't really necessary besides "OMG COOL FLIPZ" is because he has no depth in neither character nor ring ability. What is his gimmick anyway? A '60's rockstar does that parkur? Don't rockstars usually have...charisma? Seriosuly, it's IMPOSSIBLE to take anyone wearing his matching pants and robe as a legitimate contenter to anything besides chippendales tryouts. The whole "he cut good promos as da bad guy" excuse is moot, because if you're charasmatic, at the very least SOME of it shines through even the dreckiest of dreck gimmicks.

And his wrestling ability. At least Benjamin knew how to implement a suplex into his aresenal. All Morrison's move-set boils down to is one clumsly spot to the next. A random barrage of springboards and slams that forsake any impact. Mysterio can tell a story, RVD was always fluid an crisp in transitions and sold like a champ...hell, even Borune knows how to perform his finisher without botching it. He lacks any credablity, and way to far removed from being even remotely viable in the main even. If(that's a big if, by the way) Morrison landed Starship Pain on John Cena in a title match, how many people would be ablt to hold back laughter as he went for the pin?

Look at this list of current WWE guys in the like for main event pushes. Ziggler, Rhodes, Barrett, Bryan, Swagger(kind of), Ryder, etc. What do all of them have in common. That don't wear fur or have a finisher they can't even land. I'm only half joking. As a Morriosn fan, i'm thinking perhaps he just needs some new scenery.He appers too..."comfortable" just hanging around. The WWE is too crowded at the moment, and he isn't breaking that glass ceiling at time soon. Go to TNA where, with his age and for WWE standing, he would get pushed to the moon. Light a fire there in the main event for a few years, and go back to the WWE after some of their pushes are over and he's restablished himself. Maybe by then Morrison will have grown up a bit, developed a more acessible move-set...and ditch the fur.

 

[Dagger Dias]

It's a shame that Morrison is going through this. He should already be main eventing and have held a world title by now. I think he is being punished for all the drama that Melina caused. That's what he gets for dating her. Morrison has all the skills to be the next Shawn Michaels like many including myself have predicted. The problem is his pushes keep ending due to stupid issues going on in the back that don't matter and should therefore not be stopping his growth as a star. I hope that he can regain his momentum and finally break into the main event where he belongs.

 

[a member of wwe universe]

It's a shame that Morrison is going through this. He should already be main eventing and have held a world title by now. I think he is being punished for all the drama that Melina caused. That's what he gets for dating her. Morrison has all the skills to be the next Shawn Michaels like many including myself have predicted. The problem is his pushes keep ending due to stupid issues going on in the back that don't matter and should therefore not be stopping his growth as a star. I hope that he can regain his momentum and finally break into the main event where he belongs.

John Morrison the next HBK? Morrison does not have any qualities that hbk possessed. Morrison cant even speak comfortably in front of the crowd, let alone do a good promo like hbk. His in ring work is all about flips. HBK ring work was not about that. His relationship with melina is just an excuses for his de-push.

Sure it might have some sort of detrimental effect, but if he really does possessed the qualities that hbk have, then he wouldnt be jobbing right now.


As of right now, the miz has a better chance to be the next hbk than morrison. thats for sure

 

[keehlnate]

Morrison is not and would not be HBK. Miz is right, he is the Marty Jannetty of the team. Shawn became the world champion while Jannety is stucked in the tag-team division but was unsuccessful on the rest of his career. Much like the Team of Miz and Morrison right?

But yeah , I believe WWE is dropping the ball on John Morrison. Maybe because of personal issues outside the ring.

 

[tomthebodz]

I am a fan of Morrison, I think his parkour is interesting, and can lead to some good spots, like in the Rumble. However, after reading this article http://www.wrestlezone.com/news/243062-john-morrison-shoots-on-triple-h-a-wrestling-business I can't see him being around much longer. WWE have seemingly put him on the back-burner since Melina went and he had a little dig at management then.

At the start of the year I had him as a shoe-in to win MITB and have a title run at some point soon, but this has gone out the window.

How much longer do you think he'll last in WWE?

 

[Ex-Degenerate]

What is the future for John Morrison? Seems like since he got back from injury, he can't buy a win. First, the "squash" match with Del Rio a couple weeks ago that lasted a minute, then he loses again at HIAC. Then looks like chump meat against Henry on Raw.

Has he won a match, clean or otherwise, since he came back from injury?

Seems like they don't have a spot for him now.

 

[WunNightStan619]

Relax..im sure this is simply a work to further the current storyline. Even though he's been on a losing streak, Morrison is still very popular, over with the fans, and consistantly puts on good matches. Hes not goin anywhere

 

[Pepe Silvia]

Are you fucking serious? JR did the same type of in-character tweet after the walkout. I understand ignorance is bliss, but you're going to walk into a stop sign in the near future if you don't start noticing shit.

Morrison's going to stick around for a while. He's got that new shirt, one less crazy co-worker girlfriend, and a locker room with a few morons who will get kicked if they don't stop drinking. To my knowledge, Hennigan has no WP violations, hasn't had some silly DUI charge, and doesn't shit in Diva's bags.

Oh, wait, that last one would make him a main eventer.

 

[Evenflow DDT]

He has had plenty of time to get over. He has had like 3 pushes and they all failed. He is good but not good enough to be the guy, even on SD. I feel within a year he wull be released and this time next year he will be either TNA or ROH world champ.

 

[hatehabsforever]

There is a new concept in the WWE, perhaps you've heard or it, it's called kayfabe. And more and more, wrestlers are going beyond the confines of the WWE to exploit it. Facebook, twitter, YouTube, interviews, whatever. The lines between what is real and what is contrived is blurrier these days than ever.

I don't think John Morrison is going anywhere. I think his comments directed at Triple H are all part of the storyline, all part of the group of wrestlers who are disgruntled with the new COO, and his comments have to be taken with a grain of salt.

Granted, his push does appear to be over at the moment. However, I don't see him being future endeavored anytime soon. Guys get close and then get de-pushed all the time, rightly or wrongly. Just ask Jack Swagger.

 

[a member of wwe universe]

He has had plenty of time to get over. He has had like 3 pushes and they all failed. He is good but not good enough to be the guy, even on SD. I feel within a year he wull be released and this time next year he will be either TNA or ROH world champ.

Exactly. This guy has been in the business for more than 7 years i think and he received 3 pushes and he failed. People keep on BSing that morrison have talents blahahbalha and sooner or later he will be world champion. Gets what? sooner or later he will be released.

mr kennedy
mvp
carlito
shelton benjamin

these guys where quoted by the iwc as future world champion. Well where are they?

 

[byrnside]

I'm sorry, but am I still the only one who doesn't think that John Morrison is really all that special? Don't get me wrong, I think his whole "parkour" thing is kind of cool, but I just have never been able to get on board the whole "J-Mo for champ" bandwagon. While I don't think he should be sent out to job every night, I also don't think he is much more than a mid-card talent at best. People have mixed feelings on Kofi Kingston, whether or not he should be pushed to the main event and why or why not. I don't think Kofi is any less talented than John Morrison, they just both need to work on their characters.

Today on the main site I saw a headline that Justin LaBar would be discussing Morrison's future on his show today hinting that maybe he doesn't have one in the WWE.
Personally I think the Daniel Bryans, Dolph Zigglers, and Zack Ryders of the company are much more entertaining inside the ring and out of it and deserve to be pushed more than Morrison.

Along with Kofi, I think Morrison either needs a character tweek, he needs to either amplify his character or do something to promote himself and garner more attention/favor from creative. Tweeks obviously worked wonders for both Cody Rhodes and Zach Ryders, like them or not. Or, he needs to go to TNA. Personally, and I have been red-repped for my opinion on this before, I thought Morrison should've been released last year and gone to TNA where he'd probably excell. Then maybe after he's become more well-rounded in his craft, he can come back and be on top, much like Christian did.

 

[hatehabsforever]

Of course John Morrison is not being buried. His alleged squash against ADR was not so much about making JoMo look weak, as much as it was about making Del Rio look strong. The WWE has the desire to make ADR into something, a concept which personally escapes me. How better to make him look good than to have him destroy a face who is currently not involved in anything.

JoMo got decimated by Mark Henry, but who hasn't in regards to facing him recently. I don't think Big Show, or Kane, or Orton, or Khali (OK, bad example), are getting future endeavored anytime soon. JoMo was just the latest installment into Henry's hall of pain, which personally i think is going really well.

Same thing with his loss at HIAC. Cody Rhodes is on a major roll, and he had to defeat someone, why not Morrison?

John Morrison will be just fine. Will he ever hold either of the major titles? I doubt it, I never really thought he would, although personally I wouldn't have minded it one bit if he did. but I don't see him getting future endeavored any time soon. He's in a bit of a tailspin these days due mostly to circumstances, but that's the way it goes sometimes.

 

[Good Golly It's Ollie]

Habs is right; it's all banter. Twitter is a comparatively new way to work people and to have inside jokes. Anything any wrestler in the WWE posts on there should be taken with a grain of salt. Hugh Jackman fracturing Dolph's jaw, anyone? Come on, if that was any kind of serious Dolph would be off right now, not working. But because he's a good character guy he made more of the story.

Considering that everyone walked out on Helmsley on Monday, it's perfectly reasonable that the faces might have just as many gripes as the heels do. Morrison at least looks like he's trying to get in on the story - have a character, have motives. He's not just trying to "spot monkey" his way around and look cool anymore. The guy does at least deserve some props for that.

 

[byrnside]

Of course John Morrison is not being buried. His alleged squash against ADR was not so much about making JoMo look weak, as much as it was about making Del Rio look strong. The WWE has the desire to make ADR into something, a concept which personally escapes me. How better to make him look good than to have him destroy a face who is currently not involved in anything.

JoMo got decimated by Mark Henry, but who hasn't in regards to facing him recently. I don't think Big Show, or Kane, or Orton, or Khali (OK, bad example), are getting future endeavored anytime soon. JoMo was just the latest installment into Henry's hall of pain, which personally i think is going really well.

Same thing with his loss at HIAC. Cody Rhodes is on a major roll, and he had to defeat someone, why not Morrison?

John Morrison will be just fine. Will he ever hold either of the major titles? I doubt it, I never really thought he would, although personally I wouldn't have minded it one bit if he did. but I don't see him getting future endeavored any time soon. He's in a bit of a tailspin these days due mostly to circumstances, but that's the way it goes sometimes.

Very well said. Just to add something, hatehabsforever just had a pretty good response that I didn't even think to include in mine considering I lost track of the question at hand during my rant. I don't think he's being burried. He is definnitely being used to further other storylines along, ie- Henry's monster gimmick and the escalation of del Rio, and the rebuilding of the IC title/Cody Rhodes, which isn't a bad thing necessarily, they just need to make sure he gets a pretty noteworthy win in there somewhere to keep him relevant. I don't necessarily believe that someone as talented in the ring as Morrison couldn't come back from being buried should this be the case, though. Look at Evan Bourne, someone was recently comparing him with Kofi Kingston and how two years ago Kofi was almost main eventing and Evan Bourne was on his way to becoming the resident jobber of RAW. Not the case anymore, is it?

 

[Rick Rudes Mustache]

Seriously, I could care less if Morrison goes or stays. He is a forgetable performer at best. But PLEASE FOR THE LOVE OF MUSTACHE WWE stop talking about his Parkour. He does NOT do parkour. He jumps around like an idiot and hopes over chairs like Jeff Hardy doing a dance for a dime bag.

 

[RicoLen]

Exactly. This guy has been in the business for more than 7 years i think and he received 3 pushes and he failed. People keep on BSing that morrison have talents blahahbalha and sooner or later he will be world champion. Gets what? sooner or later he will be released.

mr kennedy
mvp
carlito
shelton benjamin

these guys where quoted by the iwc as future world champion. Well where are they?

MVP wasn't released because he couldn't get over, he was released because he had a heart condition that could kill him if he didn't take it easy. The last thing the WWE needs is for another wrestler to die on them while on the active roster.

John Morrison just needs a heel turn. Put him with The Miz again, put them in a PPV have Morrison go ape shit on him Morrison gets over as a heel, Miz goes face, everyone wins.

 

[badnewzxl]

Morrison WILL leave when his contract is up bc of all the heat he got bc of Melina, all the badmouthing he gets from current & former superstars, and the fact that he is held back despite being one of the most popular faces in the company.

He won the contract at last year's TLC to face the WWE champ at RR; then they acted as though that wasn't the case and just gave him his shot on an ep of RAW.

He stole the show at RR; then they put him in a crap ass match at WM and teamed him with two ppl who hadn't been on WWE tv for EVER. The guy's been busting his ass and he gets over every time he gets in the ring; but he gets held back just bc they don't like his girl? personal shit; it shouldn't stifle him professionally. It's very clear that this is the only thing that holds him back. The fans LOVE him and he has had great fueds with top guys like Punk and Ziggler. He's not gonna cut the best promo in the world, but neither is Rey Jr, Jeff Hardy, or some other mega popular faces.

If WWE were smart, they'd negotiate some kinda deal with another company for him; maybe let him go elsewhere and build his rep so maybe he can build a higher stock. meanwhile, WWE can get a fresh face into their mix and maybe Morrison will feel/look better in the public eye when he comes back. I mean, Truth "injured him" and he returned without even a blow-off ppv match (which WOULD have drew bc Truth got SUPER over with his new gimmick that HE got bc of MORRISON!). It's obvious WWE is purposely holding this guy back and the reasoning is petty....

 

[Lord_Frish]

The IWC has a strange habit of claiming that anyone who fails in their push will be released. If everyone that someone in the IWC said would be released was actually out of the WWE right now all we would have left is Randy Orton and John Cena. Basically anyone who spent some time in the mid card would be gone.

Morrison is in a strong position in the WWE, he is the guy that they use to put over Main Eventers and he still gets cheered despite not having won a match for a long time. He isn't about to get released. I assume he moves a decent amount of merch as well, no where near Cena or Punk levels but a decent amount. I mean JoMo seems to have outlasted Riley, A-Ry seems to be struggling to get a match on TV now.

I would say JoMo is a free runner rather than a student of parkour, parkour is about getting to you destination in a fast and efficient manner. Free running is doing backflips off walls etc. which aren't really efficient for getting anywhere.

 

[Klown_Karnage]

Thing is, I don't see Morrison being buried or released, not as such, but I do see him as being limited. Thing is, despite how good he is in the ring, his mic skills aren't really anything special. He comes across as someone who's half asleep and doesn't really know what he's saying. I know it has to do with the whole laid back "cool" persona...but that doesn't make it in any way exciting.

Then there's the situation with Melina. When the WWE released her, he stood up for her (I'm assuming) which is a good thing to do as a husband but a bad thing to do as a career man in the WWE. I think that Drew McIntyre can weigh in here with a word of agreement. John Morrison is at least allowed to be on the major shows (Raw and Smackdown) in a ring performance. Drew very rarely gets even that.

That being said, Morrison is an excellent performer and can do many things that most superstars can't. The WWE recognizes this and that's the only reason he's still getting face time. Morrison may rise to prominence again, but right now the WWE is focusing on others and Morrison is a convenient person to throw into the ring with someone they want to get over. He's got to do time as a jobber before they decide they want to take another risk on him.

 

[Wrestlingfan100]

Morrison is not fantastic.

He botches spots, his punches are shitty and people just jumped on the band-wagon because he did a few highspots.

He can be a good brawler and technician and has been in the biz for 8 years. I seldom like wrestlers who haven't wrestled around the map.
John Morrison was obviously mimmicking Jack Evans when he was on tough enough. Evan Bourne got his wrestling license at age 17 NOT a reality show. Morrison was overpushed, tag titles, midcard titles, why? Because WWE created him. If he's such a good wrestler, why don't you find one his matches from before WWE doing something really good.

 

[Daniel]

Shoot? Or... is it this little thing called a "work". I mean come on, use common sense. He was involved in an angle on Raw which involved him saying that he had no confidence in Triple H as COO. He then writes on Twitter about how he has no confidence in Triple H as COO.

Anyway, as for his career, I just think it's part and parcel of being a WWE midcarder. He's never going to be a main eventer with his mic skills and charisma (or lack thereof). He's going to move up and down the card. One day he'll be winning, another day, he'll be losing. I personally feel that he was put over quite well in his match with Mark Henry on Raw. He managed to hit both of his finishers on the World Heavyweight Champion. That ain't no bad thing.

 

[XXJJ]

Morrison is right where he should be... he is a mid card wrestler, nothing more.

He shouldn't be talking about other people promo skills. The guy is horrible. Just watch his segment with R-Truth a few months ago. That might of been the worst opening ever to a Monday Night Raw.

The guy is a spot monkey. He can do some creative things in matches like the Royal Rumble and Elimination chamber.. but other than that he hasn't done anything that has really stood out.

 

[crippler]

Honestly other than a few acrobatic moves He is nothing special the guys promos are boring. Not sure why anyone would worry if he was released or not.

 

[4realpeoples]

mr kennedy
mvp
carlito
shelton benjamin

these guys where quoted by the iwc as future world champion. Well where are they?

Mr. Kennedy--Actually went on to be a two time TNA World Champ... if that still counts.

MVP--asked for his release because he wanted to wrestle in Japan.

Carlito--released because he failed the wellness policy twice and refused to go to rehab.

Shelton--Wasn't going anywhere in WWE at the time. My guess is that he will be back eventually.

As for JoMo. He isn't exactly on a winning streak but the people he's been facing are on a huge roll. So what if he's been losing, he still looks good in the match. This is usually what happens if your not in a storyline. Oh well. He'll get his chance eventually.