Wow... I thought this thread was dead, lol. I never saw Spawn's post. But, here we go one more time.
Just when you thought you were out, my rightness just keeps pullin u back in. WHo ha.
But what makes you think Danielson or McGuiness couldn't do well with a gimmick in WWE? What they do now is OVER with the crowd they cater to. When they go to WWE, obviously they would get put with something different most likely.
Oh god. How many times do I have to explain this? I'll try again. Danielson and McGuiness are right where they need to be. There are performing in front of fans who love what they do and appreciate them to no end. I don't think that will happen with WWE and they would just end up getting some stupid assed gimmick like walking around with underwear on their heads saying their names over and over again or something like that. Not pretty dude. Not pretty.
It's a fucking figure of speech. Of course he isn't an actual God. But yes... if there is one person currently who the majority would consider the "God" of indy pro wrestling, then Danielson would be it. You can't argue that.
Actually I can. Out of the 15 indy fans that I poled, the majority said McGuiness. Next was Aries. Danielson actually tied for 3rd/4th place with Corino. Go figure. But yeah. Not a majority.
Whatever you want to say kid. Whatever you want to say.
Um yeah. One word answers really turn me on kid. They don't make sense or explain jack shit, but they really turn me on.
It's common fucking sense he makes good money. How many fucking times do I have to repeat myself? Headlines ROH, headlines NOAH, and headlines numerous other promotions across the country. Those are facts. And if you don't think he doesn't make good money, when he doesn't have a second job but does have a GF, house, car, dogs, ect... then you're just fucking ******ed.
Common sense? Okay, then take this common sense and go help ROH to straighten out their books so that they can get out of the red. Go take your common sense and get the NFL to hire back the 250 employees that they just let go. Please take this much talked about common sense and tell the Arena Football League to not cancel next season. Wait, you can't do that can you? Why? Because economic statistics seems to be trumping the shit out of your common sense, if you have any. And dude, I could understand if you were sitting here saying that Danielson had a beach house, a model gf, owned a pimped out muscle car, and had some rare irish show dogs or something as an example that he is paid. But you just say that because he has a house(which could be a one room piece of crap), a car(which could be an 85 Hugo), has a gf(dude who doesn't have a fuckin gf these days), and a dog(which someone could have given him, he is rolling in the doe. As I said, the kid who works at the local Subway has those same items you mentioned. Does that equate to him being successful?
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what a fucking stupid thing to say. If you actually think the NWA currently draws more money then ROH and also pays their wrestlers more... I mean, you really have no idea what the fuck you're talking about, lol. It's extremely laughable at this point.
Actually yes. And it's based on the fact that 2007-2008 financial reports for the NWA have them running in the black while ROH has been running int he red all year. Now I'm no financial genius, but all financial analysts say that operating in the red is not good and could easily turn into bankruptcy. Iknow you don't want to hear it, but it's on the net for you to read if you like.
And guess what? Even if you believe that nonsense, BRYAN DANIELSON WORKS ON NWA SHOWS TOO YOU FUCKING IDIOT. So, you believing that actually puts much more money in Danielson's bank account.
And? You stated that ROH was the third biggest company in the country. I proved you wrong. Don't flip flop here or wence. Take it like a man.
I still beg to differ.
You're not offering 'statistics'. What stat have you offered? Nothing. Absolutely nothing.
I've offered more proof than you. Economic statistics and facts. You seems to want to ignore than and just use your imagination as fuel for your arguments. Um yeah Corky, you keep doing that. It will definitely help proof your point some day. Not sure when, but some day.
You ask ANYONE HERE who works more: Indy wrestlers or WWE wrestlers and EVERYONE will say WWE wrestlers. Come on man. You have to be arguing just to argue at this point. There's no way you believe half the ******ed shit you type.
And WWE wrestlers still make more. They get their base, plus their upside, plus royalties, and then per show appearances. Oh yeah, that dog work is really hurting their pocketbooks. As well as those paid off days. You were the one who said Danielson was making just as much as he would in the WWE to work less dates. NOW who's arguing just to be arguing here hmm?
And? Point is wrestlers get hurt no matter what company they're in. Evan Bourne was never seriously injured on the indies, but as soon as he's in WWE, he severely injures an ankle. What does that fucking tell you?
It tells me that a freak accident can happen no matter how many safety precautions you take. BUT, it's still statistically less likely that he would get hurt in WWE than in indies.
What people? Please for the love of God, I would love to know who said Ruckus is the king of the indies.
Actually the same kid who said that said you were an idiot for saying Danielson was the king. I'm not trying to start anything between the two of you or anything, I'm just saying. But I do find it funny that Ruckus is the only one that you disagree with as being King alternatives to Danielson. Hmmm.
Danielson does ALL types of wrestling. You don't know that, because you never watch him.
Have too. I thought he was boring. And gay.
But wait, once again, you stated that you wanted proof from me?
Yup, and you refuse to provide it. I have given more and more statistics and people pay to get in college classes and yet you have offered nothing but your opinion and insults when you are stumped for an answer. Wow, brilliant.
And yet, you have not shown any, AT ALL.
Um yeah. And you can't read worth a shit either. Go back and read the other posts. I'm not going to repeat myself for you anymore. No matter how simple you seem to be.
Like what? You haven't said shit that makes any sense, let alone be factual information.
And you have offered what as your factual proof? A phantom dog? A neverbeforeseen gf? A mystery house located in the middle of god knows where? Um yeah, your facts are truly based on something. Mostly your imagination, but still something.
What is it with you continuously thinking about a guy having homo thoughts about Danielson? You keep saying that ridiculous crap. Maybe you ought to look into your own sexual preferences if the only way you can make an insult is by calling a person gay.
I just said you were suspect and had fantasies. Didn't say you were gay. But you sure do seem to be defensive about something. Hmm. I wonder.
Look, you said WWE would never sign Danielson, and they already have once before. You have been proven WRONG. Just admit it.
If you go back and read my first post, which you obviously never did. I said they SHOULD NOT sign him. As I said, you're the idiot who is making him out to be the hottest thing since toasted bread. You haven't proven me wrong on shit. You're just showing your inability to read and comprehend.
Like what?
And what the fuck does economical information have to do with our main argument anyway? How does economical information play a part in whether or not WWE would sign Bryan Danielson?
Please tell me that you're like genetically stupid and that you honestly did not just sit here and say that. Please do because it would take the king of the ******s to sit here and say some shit like that. The economical information has to do with ROH on the verge of going out of business and you saying that he is getting paid like a fat rat there. You seriously are not reading or retaining info as you read are you. I mean I don't want to believe that you are a ******, but you are making a good argument for it. You just have yet to prove yourself to be one.
It's not someone else's words, its THEIR OWN.
And I say offer proof that makes them a liar, and you can't fucking do it. All you can say is you already have, when you haven't. You're fucking ridiculous.
Oh god, I spoke too soon. You have truly just sat and made the dumbest reply that I have ever seen. You have truly shown that you write BEFORE you read. Did you not read that I wrote that THEY are the ones telling their fans this? So I was saying them. And then then you come back with a true act of stupidity. And not only that, but you would think if you read this in a blog or saw it in a youtube post or something that by now you would at least say "hey dude, go hear and read it for yourself" and at least make yourself look somewhat intelligent, but you can't even do that. Why? Because you are just making this shit up for the sake of an argument.
See, the fact that you think Danielson acts like a complete bad ass in interviews shows you know NOTHING about him.
Learn to read before you reply kid. I mean you are so off topic that its not even funny.
I didn't back off my statement, you fucking ******. I explained why Danielson didn't go to TNA.
No, you backed off. You were babbling about how Joe and Daneilson turned down WWE offers. I brought up that Joe signed with TNA. And then you got completely lost on the topic as usually.
You didn't know that. You were acting as if he he made those statements at shows on a microphone.
And I could care less cuz I never said he made them at shows. He could fuckin make their on the corner at 7-11 for all I care. My point is that just because he states it's true doesn't always mean it is. Wrestlers do embellish a little to make themselves look better ya know.
Can you fucking read? Are really this fucking stupid? I said TNA didn't want anything to do with Danielson in 2002/2003, but offered him a contract in 2006. Do you not notice the huge gap between 2002/2003 and 2006?
Yeah. And you know what. It's an even BIGGER gap between 1999 and now as well. Do ya get what I am hinting at here? Could it be that you just dogged a shorter distance than the one you keep bringing up from when Danielson was signed to a WWE DEVELOPMENTAL deal a long time ago?
Danielson beat Lance Cade in his last try-out, you unbelievable fucking moron.
And let me guess. It was in a dark match that you read about on the net right? Dark matches don't really amount to shit kid.
No one wrestles the WWE style on the indies. The only place the WWE style should be incorporated is in WWE. Duh.
God you are remedial. The statement was that the Danielson does not fit into the WWE style right now. It's so plainly stated that I can't see how you completely fucked up the response. But somehow you did.
And I think Danielson could wrestle the WWE style if he ever goes there. Punk does it, and so could Danielson.
Wait wait wait, every time you bring up someone compare to Danielson and I bring up something wrong with that person you use it to wander off into a totally different argument. Shame on you for that. I'm not falling for it this time.
Because you were the idiot who claimed WWE would never sign Danielson ever, no matter what.
I said that Danielson and McGuiness did not need to go to WE and needed to say where they are appreciated more. You were the jackass who just started up an argument, not even knowing that you were arguing about. You just heard someone not calling Danielson a GAWD and got all pissy about it.
No, I know you haven't watched him by your ridiculous claim that he does high spots and nothing else. That's all the proof I need to know that you're full of shit and haven't watched him perform.
Once again you should go look up the term spot monkey. And I say that because nowhere in this whole argument have I said he did spots and nothing else. I;ve watched him. I wasn't impressed. Fucking deal with it. Get help if you need to. But you gotta face it, some people don't care for him.
And my cousin doesn't like Danielson and that's fine with me, but I at least know he's seen him wrestle plenty of times and the reason he doesn't care for him isn't because he idiotically thinks Danielson is a spot monkey.
Should I even bother TRYING to get you back on topic? I mean seriously, you keep wandering off topic and repeating and shit and it's getting redundant.
So, what you're saying is, if Benoit hadn't killed his family, than he would be serving no use in WWE?
Didn't say that. I said the WWE had already started moving away from benoit styles while he was still alive. It's a sign of the times kid. Not the end of the world, but it was already in the making.
And it's funny how you get on me for using a rumor, when you stated a rumor to begin with that the only reason Benoit was moved to ECW was only because WWE was moving away from his style. That was a rumor. A rumor of which you have no proof of, but pass along as fact. A rumor that makes no sense, by the way.
You seem to live in this "what if" world alot. is it nice there? I mean seriously kid. Can you look at the entire roster and tell me ONE wrestler who resembles that Benoit type of style? Nope. Why? Because the WWE has moves away from that? I mean even Jack Swagger would have been made in that mold, but they decided to go differently as they are not using that style anymore. Are you reading any of this or am I just wasting my time while you space out again.
So you watch gay porn, huh? And you like watching that more then watching a professional wrestling match?
Well at least more tan watching Danielson. Mainly because there was less gropping, touching, and moaning than in your typical Danielson match.
Again, with the economics bullshit. You said that NOAH and ROH do terrible business, but have yet to offer economical proof as to how they do so.
I did. You can't read. I'm done showing it to you.
I don't care if you were impressed or not. I just know you're lying by the way you described the matches you watched. It's blatantly fucking obvious you have never watched him wrestle. If you want to say that Danielson isn't for you, fine. But to sit there and call him a spot monkey is fucking proof that you never watched him before.
For one, this is America, and I can call him a Jizz Mopper if I want to. thing is that what YOU define to be a Spot Monkey and what I think a spot monkey is obviously differs. I suggest you go look it up. I've seen his matches. And he's STILL a spot monkey.
Yeah, a term that fucking nerds use.
Um yeah, says the guy who gets over emotional because I called his hero a spot monkey.
I thought you said he didn't tell any stories?
Probably bedtime stories because they are way too boring.
Yeah, and they're not going to cut him, are they?
Um yeah, there's alot of guys that ECW didn't cut either. When the time came for the doors to close, they didn't have much of a choice in the matter.
I've offered you plenty of proof. Some wasn't just proof however, a lot of it is just common fucking sense, which you obviously have none of when it comes to this topic..
Um no, your imagination isn't proof. Lame, but not proof.
Didn't I say in my first post that Danielson wouldn't make a big fuss in the company? I believe so I did.
Um no, you said he could go wherever he wanted whenever he wanted because he's a GAWD.
And me claiming that Danielson can go to WWE whenever he wants isn't me claiming he's the best thing since slice bread. Fuck you're an idiot.
Actually, it kinda is.
Yeah, because they fucking put the other companies out of business.
No put out, as much as just went. BIG difference.
Absolute horseshit.
And where's the proof here, genius? Oh yeah, there is none. You're just talking out of your fucking ass.
What part of "PICK UP A FUCKING WALL STREET JOURNAL" did you not understand? I told you where you can find proof and then you ask for it? What a fuckin moronic statement kid.
How is saying someone working as Subway offering a similar instance? That's so fucking ridiculous.
I offered n example of someone who has a dog, a house, a car, and a gf like Danielson. I asked if that equated success as well. You seem to be to dumbstruck to answer.
Of course I can't come up with a factual gross of what he makes per year, but it's just common fucking sense that he obviously does better then the regular indy guy out there.
Kid you can't even fucking come up with a GUESTIMATE? I mean seriously. You could have throw any dollar amount at me and you are too fuckn stupid to even do that? And then you say it's common sense? Dude, you are fucking moron.
He didn't headline shit and didn't work nearly as many shows as Danielson works a year. That's a fucking fact and you know it.
Ad I never said he did. But you said he HAD to take the WWE money. On WHAT factual information are you basing this? Do you follow his career and know EXACTLY where he works or do you just see if he's on the same cards as your hero? So that means if YOUR OPINION and NOT facts.
How did I "dog" Ace Steel for signing a WWE contract? Oh that's right, I didn't. You're just a fucking ****** with zero reading comprehension.
You dogged him by saying that he HAD to take the WWE's money. Was that NOT your statement? if not, I can copy and paste or quote that so you can see it again if you like. Obviously you are so lost that you are forgetting your own words, but saying someone HAD to take money that someone else was too good to take is DOGGING them.
You show me how it's possible that there are indy guys in the US who gets paid more then Danielson, when none of them headline as many shows as he does in the States and in Japan?
Wait,let me get this straight. I asked YOU how you know that Danielson makes more than any other indy guy and your response is to ask how it's possible that any other guy can get paid more than him? How fuckin moronic is that shit? God you are a fuckin douche.
And why do you keep saying "GAWD"? You're really that fucking stupid, aren't you?
Now really. Pretty much I'm mocking that fact that you got so much of a hard on over Danielson during a previous post that you called him "GAWD". Wow, that's pretty gay dude.
It's a fact, because its common fucking sense. And you have yet to come up with any good reasons why WWE would never sign Danielson. None whatsoever.
Once gain, I said he needs to stay where he is because he does not fit into the WWE style right now and would not be appreciated as well as he is in ROH. Get a clue kid.
Did I say he would have regrets? No, I said it was possible. Fuck, nearly every wrestler in the history of the business retires with a shit load of regrets. That's just how it is. If Danielson goes along and never signs with World Wrestling Entertainment, then yes... he could be 50 years old and regretting every day he didn't go there. But then again, he could be 50 years old someday and have no regrets. Who knows? Who cares? The fact is if he wants to, he could easily go to WWE.
See, that is the shit that you seem to be so fucking ignorant about. He could not EASILY go to WWE. I will dispute that any fuckin day of the week.
Oh, like he did to you when you continuously made yourself look like a fucking idiot in the Elijah Burke thread. Okay.
Wow, you had to go there, didn't ya? You are so pathetic in THIS thread that you have to try to use ANOTHER thread to defend ourself? Okay, I know that there are very few truths that you will find in life, but here is one for you and quite a few others who will be shocked. Me and Sly STAGED that whole fuckin argument in the Elijah Burke thread! While everybody was sending pm's and going ballistic and thought that we were going at it and shit, we were sitting back laughing our asses off. So yeah, you thought you were throwing that in my face and now you just found out how truly big and idiot you are. But hey, thanx for fallin for the swerve. I just gots to pm Sly and have him come in and read this statement because it is hilarious.
But you know what? I think Sly has the right idea. I'm not even going to read what you have to say to all this because it will once again be nothing but horseshit. So have fun writing a response that will never get read by the person its intended for. If you weren't so fucking pathetic/******ed, it would be a different story, but there's no use in continuing this shit with you.
Um dude, me and Sly have staged about three arguments on this board just for shock value and to get a response out of others. I have a high amount of respect for Sly and vice versa. So good luck there LOSER. I mean seriously, I need to stop arguing with you because it would be like as if I were beating up on a handicapped kid. I mean sure it serves a purpose, but it just makes me look worse the more I do it because people will say I'm picking on you too much. I'm still rolling that you envoked Sly's name not knowing that we stage these things for pissants like you. OMG. I wouldn't even show my face on the boards if I were you as there the only people who haven't figured out that we stage these are pathetic noobs. Oh god, tis is too funny. I'ma quit pickin on you now because you are clearly to lame and beaten to argue with. And you lack simple logic and intelligent though in your arguments. I mean at least RVDGirl is intelligent when she argues. She's not right, but she's intelligent. Perhaps you can learn a thing or two from her.
