Lord Tensai's Push (Keep it all in here!!!!)

[Terry Gyimah]

If anything Tensai after the role he's been on, this man definitely deserves a monster heel push especially after rendering his opponents unconscious, like I mean honestly who does he have to go through, this man is destroying his opponents week in and week out and not to mention he has his manager, or his worshipper in Sakamoto, and I would like to see him get pushed all the way into being a main event guy on RAW but if he gets drafted over to Smackdown, I would love to see Tensai be fighting for the World Heavyweight Championship and if anything for a "big man" wrestler he is one of those rare big men types that can actually move in the ring and if anything he has a manager in tow, him & Sakamoto remind me sort of like Mr. Fuji and Yokozuna

 

[Paul Bunyan's Axe]

There's been a lot of speculation around Lord Tensai, and a lot of people are thinking that he's a future world champion, and I honestly think otherwise.

Let me start by saying, his ring skills are really not even average. He's slow and stiff in the ring, and there's really nothing special about him. I could see him possibly getting a mid card title run but I honestly don't even see that coming.

I honestly just can't see his gimmick getting over with the fans. The crowd is dead while his matches are on, and I can't really see him going anywhere near the world title picture anytime at all.

Is anyone else with me here?

 

[Paul Bunyan's Axe]

If anything Tensai after the role he's been on, this man definitely deserves a monster heel push especially after rendering his opponents unconscious, like I mean honestly who does he have to go through, this man is destroying his opponents week in and week out and not to mention he has his manager, or his worshipper in Sakamoto, and I would like to see him get pushed all the way into being a main event guy on RAW but if he gets drafted over to Smackdown, I would love to see Tensai be fighting for the World Heavyweight Championship and if anything for a "big man" wrestler he is one of those rare big men types that can actually move in the ring and if anything he has a manager in tow, him & Sakamoto remind me sort of like Mr. Fuji and Yokozuna

The bolded is ridiculous and untrue. Tensai cannot move around the ring any better than any other big man. His delivery is slow and stiff, and there's nothing special about his in ring work. I don't see Tensai making it anywhere near the main events in the WWE... ever.

 

[LTDA]

lol what? This fool has had like, two freaking matches against nobodies. With legitimate monsters like Kane, Mark Henry, and Lesnar, the last thing Tensai deserves in a monster push. He's never gonna get over with the crowd and eventually he will disappear back to Japan or wherever the hell he came from.

A-Train/Prince Albert sucked before and he still sucks now.

 

[The Brain]

If anything Tensai after the role he's been on, this man definitely deserves a monster heel push especially after rendering his opponents unconscious, like I mean honestly who does he have to go through, this man is destroying his opponents week in and week out

He debuted two weeks ago. He's had two matches. What is this week in and week out and major roll you're talking about? I don't have anything against him but you make it sound like he's been crushing the competition for months. Let's show just a little bit of patience here.

 

[BaconBits]

I think You're picking the wrong dude for the monster heel push.

Barry Stevens is the man that needs to be pushed after a repackage. He's got an incredible physique and is unbelievable on the mic. He'd make dudes like Cena and Lesnar look like clown shoes. We'd be talking record breaking title run here. His streak would dwarf Goldberg's, and as such, when his heel run finally came to an end and he turned face at WM XXX, the chants of "Ste-vens" will be the most transcendent chants of all time.

 

[The Rizz]

I completely agree. Weren't the fans chanting "Albert" on this past Raw? I know I don't care for him at all, and he should have come back as A-Train or something. I know WWE is all about repackaging, but sometimes it's not a good idea. I would have liked A-train more than this Lord Tensai.

 

[grantedisme]

I would actually count myself among the few who think that Albert/Tensai deserves more than he has gotten, but he hasn't done much to show it in a WWE ring so far. He has good movement in the ring, like you said, and having seen his work in Japan via youtube, I think he definitely has potential.

He's an extremely large guy with a unique look and a background and gimmick that isn't too over-the-top. He might not get a push too soon, but I'm hoping to see one at some point in the future.

 

[Nada]

He was good in Japan because "Albert" works well against smaller faster guys, in WWE however they have their own style, and it makes him look slow, old and..well..fat. He even lost weight since he came back which should be for the good but it isent.

I just feel that WWE fans are smart enough not to buy into "Albert" as some sort of japanese guy or whatever his gimmick is, former Samurai? Whatever.

The gimmick is fine, they should have gotten someone else from Japan for the role, it would have engaged the fans more with a manager who can talk, a classic foreigner heel with a small, trash talking manager.

His two matches just got no reaction whatsoever, its just Albert for WWE fans.

 

[Tyler44]

The only thing holding him back from getting a reaction is easily his gimmick. It's terrible, boring, and not relevant to anyone or anything. Why do it?

His ring skills really do not both me as much. Big Show can get away with being sometimes in the main event scene, and he's boring, still, slow, and sloppy. Plus, have you seen the Great Khali? Watching him gives me hope I could be in the WWE. Watching him is insulting to my intelligence.

If the gimmick wasn't poor, and if he had a meaningful entrance into WWE, people would care. Due to him facing unknowns and mediocre talent, he won't get anywhere. Look at Brodus Clay. One you find yourself fighting Curt Hawkins, you know you won't be relevant.

 

[OneTooManyPunts]

I'm kind of hoping that the OP is trying to crack a sly joke with this thread, but for the sake of conversation I'll definitely respond.

It's easy to say Tensai should get a monster heel push, because reports suggest he is going to. That in NO way means he deserves it yet. He'e beaten Alex Riley, and Yoshi Tatsu...so have some of the guys from NXT. His gimmick isn't catching on...I don't think WWE wants Lord Tensai generated Albert chants from it's live crowds.

It's impossible to really judge if he's good in the ring, or if he's improved since his A Train days, because he hasn't shown us anything yet. Squash matches do not to promote a wrestlers talent. At this point, he's got his own 'Five Moves of Doom'...one of which includes him spitting on his hand, and using the claw...which, If I'm not mistaken, and WWE was being logical..would probably denote disqualification..since logic would dictate he might be spitting something harmful on his hand...it's no different than Tajiri/Muta spraying mist.

He has a long way to go before he establishes that he's deserving of any kind of real monsterous push. Look at Mark Henry, the man has been in WWE for over a decade, and has only recently been given a 'monster push'. Trying to ram Tensai down the audience throat doesn't automatically equate to being push worthy.

Personally, I doubt he makes it past the mid card, and I doubt he's on t.v. by the time Summerslam rolls around. His gimmick is just too cheesy for 2012 WWE. Nobody is going to buy that he's become some sort of Japanese lord/evil samurai. WWE is changing it's own rules on how a monster heel should be judged, and how they should be pushed. Henry as I mentioned, even Brock Lesnar. WWE wants it's fans to see Lesnar as a 'legitimate' athlete and threat. Just in doing so, trying to push the Lord Tensai gimmick feels like it's on a completely lower level. Who doesn't think the likes of Lesnar or Henry would destroy him in a minute.

I understand that WWE is trying to be entertaining, and trying to create unique and compelling characters, but pro wrestling as a whole broke down the fourth wall along time ago.

Who knows, I could be wrong, and Matt Bloom's new persona could take him all the way to the top, but so far it's not looking so good. I'm kind of dreading the idea of him feuding with Punk for several reasons. One, I'm not sure he's good enough to put on a great match with Punk...two, if he ends up aligned with Johny Ace, that means that he's now in league with Brock Lesnar, and that's not the kind of gimmick I'd want to have side by side with 'The Next Big Thing'.

The worst part of it all is, that WWE is kind of insulting the intelligence of it's fans, especially the IWC fan base. A company that pushes Twitter full force should know better than to create an outlandish gimmick for someone that was tweeting as themselves, and basically letting the cat out of the back two days prior. It makes it difficult to suspend belief, and at the end of the day, to really enjoy pro wrestling, and the those within it, you need to be able to suspend belief often and easily.

 

[THEbrawler12345678910]

no way in hell does he deserve a monster push....its friggin albert!!! albert in his prime wasnt even due for a monster push....i honestly think the wwe shooda made albert more of a bodyguard type of character instead of this lord tensai character where he just squashes ppl....how many ryback, brodus clay, type characters do u really need? i cant even c who i wood throw tensai with except for brodus clay (which woodnt be that bad of a match) but other than brodus-tensai match up i dont c where tensai fits

 

[dencar84]

he'll get a main event push and probably a wwe title run for one simple reason: vince wants to push him, it doesn't matter that we the fans don't give a crap about the gimmick all that matters to vince is what vince wants.

 

[punchline]

he'll get a main event push and probably a wwe title run for one simple reason: vince wants to push him, it doesn't matter that we the fans don't give a crap about the gimmick all that matters to vince is what vince wants.

Vince also wanted to push Drew Mcintyre and Brodus Clay towards the main event upon their debut's as well. He was also always against CM Punk, Daniel Bryan, and Zack Ryder ever having any success as he's not a fan of the small built indie guys. Obviously something changed though. One thing matters to Vince more than what he wants, and that's money. Regardless of how high he is on Tensai, if it looks like his position in the main event isn't going to draw, he'll drop it.

 

[OneTooManyPunts]

Tensai has the same problem Brodus Clay has..regardless of whether or not either has talent, it's impossible to look past their cheesy gimmicks.

Nobody is buying that Matt Bloom/A Train went to Japan and became some sort of wayward lord or warrior. The illusion is dispelled the minute the ink kanji on his face starts to sweat away..he's a mix of Hakushi and The Sultan..neither are gimmicks that went past their 15 minutes.

If WWE does intend on really pushing him into a feud with CM Punk soon, they are signed the death certificate on his push. If WWE were to let Punk, he'd pick the gimmick and Matt Bloom apart on the mic before a bell ever rang. Also, the problem with pushing Tensai/Bloom right in to a main event feud after a few squash matches is that WWE fans haven't seen enough of him in ring to really feel what he can do as a performer is worth headling and thusly buying a PPV to see. We know that WWE's main even talent can go in the ring..because we've seen a body of work that reflects well upon itself. Matt Bloom hasn't been seen in years, unless you followed his career in Japan. Squash matches will only serve for him to cultivate his own 'five moves of doom' rather then getting the time to really adapt a style fitting of the gimmick.

Lastly, once he does get a main event push, what happens if he loses? If he loses to Punk, it's hard to believe he'd ever get back into the main event picture and beat the likes of Sheamus, Cena, or now even a Lesnar.

It's like watching the return of the The Executioner...you know it's a fleeting thing, and you aren't going to waste too much energy on something you know isn't going to be around long.

Lord Tensai, is WWE's Shockmaster....

 

[daddyJ_t]

he will get a major push. he will continue to squash people till he gets a title match then he will fall to midcard exactly like umaga did.

 

[Paul Bunyan's Axe]

he will get a major push. he will continue to squash people till he gets a title match then he will fall to midcard exactly like umaga did.

The difference is, Umaga was a lot more athletic, and more fluid in the ring. Tensai is slow and stiff. Plus, Umaga never even actually won a World Title.

 

[Danger Burger]

I cant see the guy making it! I really like Albert/a-train/tensai but thats only because i frickin LOVE test! Guy could big boot the moon if he wanted! But Tensai hasnt improved that much as far as i can see! He looks a little more badass and certainly wins him some squash matches, but i find it hard to judge improvement unless i get a fifteen minute match with some legitimate competition or talent! He looks like a new Umaga, and that is both a good and bad thing!

Just so you guys know, theres a forum called destroyers that has basically the same premise, only broader, with talk on Tensai, Ryback, Brodus and Brock! If this interests you then it will too!

 

[rerun406]

The prediction by the thread stater isn't that bold .. I kinda wanted to start an official Lord Tensai thread where all discussions about him existed in their

**Brodus Clay might have a horribly goofy gimmick as well, but at least he gets a reaction from the crowd

as for Tensai and his gimmick holding him back, it certainly looks the case now but I don't think it's the only thing as he's just a big slow power wrestler.

**and especially with Lesnar back, why would Vince want Lord Tensai feuding with CM Punk?

WWE can push Tensai as much as they want, but I don't see it working well long term. The crowd seemed to be very dead both times he wrestled

 

[Paul Bunyan's Axe]

The reason I called it a bold prediction is because I honestly thought a lot of people thought he was going to be in the world title picture. A lot of people on my other forum seem to be in love with him, so I figured a lot of people on here would as well. Guess not though seeing all of the replies.

 

[akbigbadwolf]

Is it really losing weight, when all you did was find a good body waxer? A-train will always be A-train, he will put on a few squash matchs against smaller opponents and then get dropped in a few weeks when the WWE realizes that he has the same problem he always has had. Not a lick of good on a mike if they even let him get that far.

 

[PowerHouse]

Ok newsflash just because Tensai is slow and stiff does not mean he can't work. He is a good worker adn if he was able to work with the Japaanese guys why wouldn't he be able to work in the WWE. If anything the guys in Japan would make him look slower than the guy here.. He dominated over in Japan he is going to dominate her as well. Yea So far the gimmick overall i do not like but I am waiting cause i want to see how it developes. I am hoping at some point he will speak. There is nothing wrong with being a stiff worker I have never heard anyone use that as a way to say someone isnt good. Its not like he is injuring people out there. Goldberg was to stiff cause he didnt know what he was doing and it ended Bret Harts career. Thats a case where stiffness is no good but not in Tensai's case it just makes him look like more of a monster.

 

[wrestlingfanatic98]

Ok newsflash just because Tensai is slow and stiff does not mean he can't work. He is a good worker adn if he was able to work with the Japaanese guys why wouldn't he be able to work in the WWE. If anything the guys in Japan would make him look slower than the guy here.. He dominated over in Japan he is going to dominate her as well. Yea So far the gimmick overall i do not like but I am waiting cause i want to see how it developes. I am hoping at some point he will speak. There is nothing wrong with being a stiff worker I have never heard anyone use that as a way to say someone isnt good. Its not like he is injuring people out there. Goldberg was to stiff cause he didnt know what he was doing and it ended Bret Harts career. Thats a case where stiffness is no good but not in Tensai's case it just makes him look like more of a monster.

Very true, some others need to realise all guys who weigh over 300 plus pounds who are in their 40s will become stiff. It is called age, but when the brutal age of 40 comes round, the limbs get stiffer, the mobility slows down, the physique is not full of muscle it once was, and in the end you have to change styles. Even the masked menace himself kane has slowed down, in his first run under the mask, kane was such a quck big man, he could jump on the cage and fly off it, he could run on the steal steps and take PPL out. He even done some high flying shit with Xpac, that mysterio would do, do not forget lesnar said he was owned by kane in a arm wrestling match the only guy that beat him. albert/Tensai is a good worker, he can move and heck he is better than khali. Yes tensai is not going to blow you away with his gimmick, but he is a character and we need characters in the WWE, because we see to many guys using their real names

 

[Headman]

There's been a lot of speculation around Lord Tensai, and a lot of people are thinking that he's a future world champion, and I honestly think otherwise.

Let me start by saying, his ring skills are really not even average. He's slow and stiff in the ring, and there's really nothing special about him. I could see him possibly getting a mid card title run but I honestly don't even see that coming.

I honestly just can't see his gimmick getting over with the fans. The crowd is dead while his matches are on, and I can't really see him going anywhere near the world title picture anytime at all.

Is anyone else with me here?

While I don't doubt he may not go very far, but i'm sort of doubting your qualifications to judge ring skills. He's slow? I'm sorry, but if you're methodically tearing someone apart are you supposed to rush through it? It's called ring psychology. His character appears to enjoy hurting people and likes to take his time doing it. Someone who enjoys causing pain is not going to dry hump them on the mat Kurt Angle style nor are they going to go through a million technical moves. I think he would have been better served going with his A-train character, but so far he's made the best of what he's been given.

 

[wrestlingfanatic98]

The difference is, Umaga was a lot more athletic, and more fluid in the ring. Tensai is slow and stiff. Plus, Umaga never even actually won a World Title.

Albert/tensai is more if a powerhouse, while umaga was a different type of monster. He is still a good worker albert, a good character. And we need more characters in the company, it adds to the WWE roster and heck its better than having khali