Live Discussion: ECW 1/15/2008 & Smackdown 1/18/2008 **NO SPOILERS**
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at the HBK marksMighty NorCal
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this is the hand...*hand*....this is the discussion *this discussion*...
and its BEEN like that for quite some time now...so no worries wes lol
and its BEEN like that for quite some time now...so no worries wes lol
Mighty NorCal
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two facts were just stated.
You cant have someone totally carrying another person if they have an hour long match together, and Cena, at this point is a bigger draw than HBK. Thats just the state of the game really. And will certainley be when Cena returns.
You cant have someone totally carrying another person if they have an hour long match together, and Cena, at this point is a bigger draw than HBK. Thats just the state of the game really. And will certainley be when Cena returns.
Cena was carried at WM.
Cena isn't even a bigger draw than Triple H. You can't prove he's a bigger draw than HBK when he hasn't even had a run in years.
Mighty NorCal
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but comparing anyone to micheals during a time when WWE had shit for talent, angles, and was going against WCW with the most successfull angle ever, is unfair, becuase it was an extreme set of circumstances.
If there should be any comparison, it should be Cena and Hogan. They are nearly the same in every aspect, cena is just the modern Hogan. All the negatives that are brought up against Hogan, apply to Cena, along with the positives that can be applied to either, may be inversed. Hogan was better at the role, and the game is different these days, which is why Cena is met with resistance.
If there should be any comparison, it should be Cena and Hogan. They are nearly the same in every aspect, cena is just the modern Hogan. All the negatives that are brought up against Hogan, apply to Cena, along with the positives that can be applied to either, may be inversed. Hogan was better at the role, and the game is different these days, which is why Cena is met with resistance.
Mighty NorCal
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when they faced off at WM, the cena lovers were there to cheer him on. The people who hated Cena were there to see CENA LOSE, not to see Triple H win. It couldve been anyone placed in that slot, as was evidenced with the Cena, micheals WM main event. The fact that he is loved and hated at the same time, so passionately by both sides, is the reason he is a bigger draw.
Mighty NorCal
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yea of course he was getting face pops during the feud, becuase it was with CENA lol....and my solution to the Cena drawing equation is as such...say, if micheals was the mian guy right now...there would be X number of people who would buy, becuase they wanted to see, and hoped, that Shawn would win. But there would be a much smaller crowd at home saying "god I fuckin hate Shawn Micheals so much, I hope someone shoots his ass tonight and he finally loses that belt"...thats extra buys you get with Cena. He has all the drawing power of a face AND a heel, which might not be the convential sum on either side, but it all adds up to the biggest draw over all.
justinsayne
Cody Rhodes is an excellant
Dude, I proved you wrong, read the posts, it's done, just fucking drop it man
HBK draws, to say he doesn't is just...ahhh forget it your not worth my time anymore, I'd rather debate with someone who knows how to argue productively, and admit when they've been proven wrong
Mighty NorCal
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well I think its a different time now, as far as trips goes. I mean people were cheering him from pretty much the time he came back from the Batista induced sabbatical. Once again, I think Triple H is an unfair comparison. Triple H is fucking Triple H lol....and they have been booked and built differently...his tactics and character when he turns heel wont be an awful lot different than his tactics and character is now.....
he doesn't draw, and i proved that... WCW ratings to WWE's during Michaels 1997 run... I haven't been proved wrong, but i will stop, because i was tired of proving wrong Michaels marks..
meh wasn't a fan..
I remember a crowd close to PA cheering the Rocks heel run...
But I dont remember if it was a televised show...
Mighty NorCal
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the hollywood rock was the SHIT..some of the best promos, and some of the coolest music ever
thats some of my favorite WWE theme music of all time...
thats some of my favorite WWE theme music of all time...