Little People Court Segments - potential to be the worst segments in Raw history

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My point was that people have now moved on to complaining about something before they've even seen it - and this is at practically the whole thread. Going into something with the mindset of 'this is going to be bad' (Not specifically you here, but a lot of the replies) isn't going to make you think any different. If people sit and watch the product because they enjoy it, without already being negative, and instead of thinking the people who do enjoy it are 'morons' things may seem a bit better for them.

Exactly. Like I said in my post.... those people would enjoy Raw more if they didn't go into an episode of Raw with this much negativity. This could not possibly be the worst segment ever. The people who are complaining need to just shut up and watch the thing when it actually airs before even THINKING it could be "the worst ever". There are a handful of others that are far worse than it could ever be. I listed a few in my post from last night:


How could it possibly be worse than Katie Vick, the hand, the ZZTop backstage segments when they were guest hosts, or MY personal pick for worst segment ever.... Fake Trump VS Fake Rosie. Name another segment where the crowd is chanting "TNA" at a WWE event. The crowd hated it. THAT is the worst segment ever.

This segment can't be any worse than those I listed. So I really wish the people who have complained in this thread would just shut up, quit complaining, watch the dang thing, THEN they can talk about how much they think it sucks.
 
Hmm.. interesting how you single me out specifically. "WWE is at the best, at the moment?" Hmm, are the ratings the best they have ever been, have fans complaints been less then ever, has merchandise been sold the best it ever has in the PG era? Unless you're too dumb not to know the awnser it is NO!. Forgive me for being a little irritated that Raw was good the past two weeks with a WRESTLER hosting, only to ruin their good streak by having a little person who has no relation to wrestling and is just another C rated celebrity.

And what the hell do you mean WWE is aimed at young children? On WWE's own corporate website it says over 70% of viewers are 18 and over. There is a big difference between trying to aim you show at kids, and actually having more kids then adults watch it. Just because I'm only one person doesnt mean I can't state my opinion you pissant. I'll tell you straight up the past 2 weeks I was the first person to praise Raw for how good it was. So don't yell at me and say I can't say what I want.

Now to answer your question, what do I want to see? Oh I dont know, how about WRESTLING, and good storylines. Not stupid skits that have no place in wrestling.

Now, unless you want to further get buried, I suggest you shut the hell up just because I talk smack on the little Hornswoggle you probably get all ornery over every week.

Ok first of all, I singled you out because i quoted what you said. I did not pick a random person, i simply quoted what you said in your last post. I did not want you to feel that I'm only talking to you, but I guess you are to ignorant to understand I tried not making you look like you were the only one I was talking to. I'm sorry you can't read.

Now clearly you misinterpreted what I said because what I meant to say is that wwe is doing their best with what they have at the moment. Yeah no fucking shit wwe right now is not the best they have ever been, but I'm telling you wwe is doing their best to TRY to make it the best they can. Now why do you think fans complaints are more than ever? Well maybe because now the wwe is PG and that pisses off most older fans. And now the IWC is more popular than ever, so those pissed off fans can argue all they want even more now than they could about 11 years ago. Also i did not say shit about guest hosts or that raw has been bad or good, so feel free throwing in random arguments I don't feel like dealing with at the moment.

Well if you have been living under a rock, wwe is PG and aimed at kids. That doesn't mean anything about how many older fans are watching. Those 70% of people are tuning in to see a show aimed at the young age group. For example: If 70% of 18 year olds or older watched the Jonas Brothers tv show, the show is still not considered to be for 18 and older viewers. It will still be aimed at young kids and teens. If wwe is aimed towards 18 years and older, why is there practically a no blood environment, a dancing Leprechaun, no more sex storylines, no bra and panties matches, and no swearing? You can go around making the argument wwe is not geared towards kids and geared towards older adults, but no one will agree with you. Also, when in my post did I say the last 2 weeks were awful? You are telling me you are the first to defend even though I'm also defending it? That was an unnecessary piece of information you did not need to include. If you listened and read what I said, THE WHOLE POST WAS NOT AIMED JUST AT YOU.

Now I also want to include that I do not get HORNY (if that's the word you couldn't manage to type out) over a fucking midget. I'm not gay and a complete loser who types wicked shitty thing things with no purpose to try and win an argument. That is like me saying like a mom joke. It has no purpose and isn't funny and would just make me look like the asshole and douche. Also in fact, I HATE Hornswoggle, but did not feel like complaining about him because everyone already does and they have great reason to. My argument was more aimed at DX since they are pretty much the main attraction to the show right now. Fans at the arena go crazy for DX but not fans on these forums, but I like them. And as you said, I can state my own opinion so yes i will say it again, I enjoy DX. Clearly they aren't as good as they once were, but oh well, I can deal with it.
 
Well maybe because it actually is something fans want to see. Maybe these segments aren't popular here, but they sure are popular in the most important place, the actual event. When DX comes out, all you hear is cheering and not a bit of booing. Why is that? Well because us online have no impact to what happens during the show. We won't stop Hornswoggle because wwe isn't aimed at us, it's aimed at young children and those children enjoy watching him. It is everywhere too except Canada due to past events that everyone cheers for DX. So no matter how much you bitch and complain, it will lead you to nothing except your own hatred and refusal to enjoy wwe at its possible best at the moment. I don't really know what you want to see, but if you are like everyone else, you don't like Cena, DX, the pushing of new talent when it actually happens, and Vince McMahon even though he brought us the gift of the wwe/wwf. Your complaining really is only hurting yourself to a point where you should just not watch it if you hate everything that much.

Sorry codebreaker, this isn't geared at you personally, but pretty much to everyone together who complains about the same things.

Even though DX isn't up to par, but if it came down to whether fans have to pick between having a bigger problem with DX or Hornswoggle ... I would say it is probably Hornswoggle.

Can you tell me whether or not Hornswoggle is a draw, or is this simply an assumption? I don't want to necessarily hear "Well, he must be a draw because they feature him on the show." That isn't necessarily the case. I need to see the quarter hour breakdowns, which I haven't seen in like ... forever, to make that determination. Nor have I seen his merchandise figures. But I can tell you that I really don't see the arena decked out with Hornswoggle derbies any time Raw airs. I pay attention to the crowd shots, and I don't know if I've seen a child wearing a derby once.

They may simply be trying to shove him down everyone's throats to make him a draw. Yet another example of Vince McMahon "TELLING the fans what they are supposed to like." Even if I were a kid, I would look at Hornswoggle and think he was a stupid character. He's meant for 3 year old children, which is a little early for kids that age to fully grasp wrestling anyway.

However, the problem is we all know damn well that Hornswoggle and the Little People vs DX is going to be the primary theme of the show, with Verne Troyer as Guest Host. Their "little people" humor is in no way, shape, or form funny as it is any other week. Now, imagine multiplying those segments by ten.

Nothing good can come out of this at all, unless DX beats the Hell out of all of them, and perhaps Verne Troyer turns Heel on Hornswoggle. That would be hysterical. If the jury finds DX "Not Guilty" and turns on Hornswoggle, leading to a Hornswoggle Heel turn ... to perhaps have him align with Sheamus, and be the Little Bastard he used to be (how I would book the segment IF I was FORCED to do this) .... then I could remotely enjoy it.

However, those are the only two ways I can possibly find this show remotely enjoyable. Hornswoggle needs to turn Heel, as this act has become overly stale.
 
Thank God for you, I swear I was almost ripping my hair out reading the bullshit in this thread.

Don't do that. The bald look doesn't suit catholic school girls. :)


I honestly can't believe wrestling fans can be THIS judgmental, this negative.

Where have you been the last year or two? This is the most judgemental place for wrestling on the Internet. Want to know why? Because the WWE thinks that little people grilling DX in a courtroom is funny! This isn't Sesame Street or Spongebob. It's the WWE.

Nominating something as possibly the 'worst segment ever' before you've seen it is just hilariously bad on so many levels.
I don't see how it's bad. If this was anything else except using little people in a courtroom, I'd agree with you here. But this is going to be bad. There's no way around it. Unless Terry Funk and Stan Hansen come in and beat the piss out of the entire courtroom with branding irons, then this is going to be bad. Real bad.


If you go into something with this mindset, you won't enjoy anything, and then you'll come on here complaining some more.

In this case, we're getting it over with before the sketch starts. That way we can move on and enjoy Raw and hopefully see some good stories being developed.

Oh, and just because something is 'childish' it doesn't automatically make it bad, and maybe if you got over the aversion to anything that could be construed as such, you'll enjoy the show more.

OK. The vast majority of people on this board are over 18. And no one said anything about not enjoying Raw. We're saying that this skit will more than likely suck. No one likes Hornswoggle and the fact that him, along with Mini-Me is going to be the focus of Raw makes this a potentially bad Raw. Hopefully, the wrestling will make up for it. But to judge us because we have an opinion's no good either. Some of us will like it. Some won't. But this does have HBK in the sketch, too. Forgot about that. :rolleyes:
 
Verne Troyer, then a court segment with DX and Hornswoggle? Vince must get some serious jollies off midgets. This is fucking ridiculous. Verne Troyer hasn't been relevant in 10 years. Hornswoggle needs to go back under the ring. The UFC is gonna blow the doors off the WWE if this shit doesn't change. Rot in Pieces..
 
Don't do that. The bald look doesn't suit catholic school girls. :)

Haha, good point.

Where have you been the last year or two? This is the most judgemental place for wrestling on the Internet. Want to know why? Because the WWE thinks that little people grilling DX in a courtroom is funny! This isn't Sesame Street or Spongebob. It's the WWE.


I don't see how it's bad. If this was anything else except using little people in a courtroom, I'd agree with you here. But this is going to be bad. There's no way around it. Unless Terry Funk and Stan Hansen come in and beat the piss out of the entire courtroom with branding irons, then this is going to be bad. Real bad.

The mere fact that people think it will be THIS bad, without having seen it, kind of proves my point. No one's being open minded and thinking it could be funny, it just automatically is seen as a failure.


In this case, we're getting it over with before the sketch starts. That way we can move on and enjoy Raw and hopefully see some good stories being developed.

Lol, you know as well as I do that is NOT going to be the case, not on these forums.

OK. The vast majority of people on this board are over 18.

I'm 18, and I still love DX, and pretty much everything the WWE does.

And no one said anything about not enjoying Raw.

But you know that people WON'T enjoy it, and will come to complain. Maybe not you, but a majority of the others.

We're saying that this skit will more than likely suck. No one likes Hornswoggle and the fact that him, along with Mini-Me is going to be the focus of Raw makes this a potentially bad Raw. Hopefully, the wrestling will make up for it. But to judge us because we have an opinion's no good either. Some of us will like it. Some won't.

Well, having an opinion on something you've never seen isn't exactly smart, which is my point. You can go back now and say that you've said 'more than likely suck' and not said definitely, which is fair enough. But some posts actively say it WILL Suck, that it WILL be 'absolutely awful'.

But this does have HBK in the sketch, too. Forgot about that. :rolleyes:

Thanks for the reminder :)
 
Sadly, I think this is Vince's concept of 'pushing the envelope' these days. Vince seems to have a very juvenile sense of humor when it comes to the WWE skits. Sometimes it feels like he's trying to put on a variety show vs. a wrestling show, since we have to sit through 20 minutes of cringe inducing banter for every 10 minute match. As other posters have questioned, I'm not sure whether Vince thinks the audience enjoys this kind of thing or whether he just doesn't care. I for one find this 'little people's court' theme annoying & offensive and plan not to watch RAW.:disappointed:
 
Haha, good point.

I know right?


The mere fact that people think it will be THIS bad, without having seen it, kind of proves my point. No one's being open minded and thinking it could be funny, it just automatically is seen as a failure.

While I see your point, the majority of people who've responded with the 'It'll suck' response are going on the basis that everything Horny's done has been awful. And you know this. It may be pessimistic to judge before we see it, but the basis is prior sketches that have been awful.



Lol, you know as well as I do that is NOT going to be the case, not on these forums.

Agreed, but one can only hope can we?


I'm 18, and I still love DX, and pretty much everything the WWE does.

DX is alright, but the WWE's really dropped the ball until recently. They're picking up their game and hopefully, we'll see a good stretch of entertaining shows.


But you know that people WON'T enjoy it, and will come to complain. Maybe not you, but a majority of the others.

True, but you never know. If there's some great wrestling or something that just takes our breath away, which is possible, then I believe most of us will overlook that sketch. You know we're still marks. At least I am.


Well, having an opinion on something you've never seen isn't exactly smart, which is my point. You can go back now and say that you've said 'more than likely suck' and not said definitely, which is fair enough. But some posts actively say it WILL Suck, that it WILL be 'absolutely awful'.

I don't remember what I said about the sketch, but I don't use definites unless it's true. It's PROBABLY going to suck, but I don't know that. I'm anticipating it being bad and if it's remotely funny, it's a bonus in my eyes.


Thanks for the reminder :)

Anytime. :suspic:
 
I think the best way to describe everyone's judgmental behavior to this skit is this example. What if we found out Raw was going to have a tuxedo match between Patterson and Brisco or worst. What if we read that DX was going to have a swimsuit competition with 60 year old men such as Vince, Brisco, Patterson, and some other old fogies that wear thongs and dance around the ring.

That might actually be more humorous then the midget court, but its still offensive and repulsive as hell. I mean take the Batista/Melina rape storyline a few years back that never went into fruition or the incest storyline Vince was going to plan with his daughter. Now we don't know how those story lines would of turned out, but I guarantee you they would of been offensive and would of killed interest into the WWE.

I'm not saying the midget court segment is as bad but its close. I understand people are fans of DX and Hornswoggle, but you have to draw the line somewhere. I'm a fan of Angle and Wolfe, but I don't want to see them in a court making fun of midgets. I don't think it will ruin Raw or the WWE, but it wont really help their momentum. It will just make WWE and DX look foolish again.
 
The usual complaining about something that hasn't happened yet never ceases to amaze me. It could be bad but then again, maybe it won't be. HHH and HBK get criticized for being in the title picture all the time and now they are stepping aside and the criticism still is there. I guess it is hard to please both parties. I'll watch the segments DX and Hornswoggle do and then will talk about whether it was good or bad. Right now, it is just assumptions that this will be bad and I don't choose what to watch or not based on assumptions.

Win. I can't stand all this bullshit either LJL. People bashing things that haven't even happened yet. You pretty much hit the nail on the head. All these people that are "fans" of wrestling that talk like Hornswoggle is going to be the death of the WWE. These are the same people that probably thought he was funny, until someone on here with some merit said he wasn't funny. Then whoever that may have been, had everybody else jump on their dick and decided he wasn't funny either. These are the same people like you said that bitch about HHH not stepping aside from the title picture, and now he has done so, but people are still bitching. It's disgusting that everybody talks about how HHH married himself into the main event... and however much truth is behind that, you can't deny he's paid his dues for the past 15 years and kinda knows what he's doing and what he's talking about. If HBK was never as close to HHH as he is, he'd never be getting shit like this thrown at him either. He's been around as long as Taker, but for some reason we all jump on Taker's dick, and rip HBK a new one because he's close with HHH. Ugh. Whatever.

Anyway... now you have HHH working with the little guy people claim to hate because its the cool thing to do. The guy people want out of hte title picture... out of the title picture, making himself the butt of the joke by working with Hornswoggle, and again... people are still bitching. Un-fucking-real.
 
Now that Raw is over, and this thread will begin to die ... all I'll say is that WWE made the right move to nix these segments, as I have no doubt that they would have been made a part of WWE Wrestlecrap History, alongside the likes of the Gobbledy Gooker, the Hell in a Kennel match, Mae Young giving birth to a hand ... and the Barack Obama vs Hillary Clinton and especially the Donald Trump vs Rosie O'Donnel matches.

There was absolutely nothing good that could have come out of this segment at all. Hornswoggle is not really a wrestler. He can't work a Face vs Face program with DX ... other than IF he turned Heel again, and was somehow aligned with Sheamus in the process (which actually may ... I emphasize the word "MAY" .... have some potential with Sheamus taking over Finlay's role).

But before this thread dies, I would like all the "WWE Shareholders" who defended this segment earlier in the thread, to come in here and explain to us WHY this segment was scrapped. Here, all of you were telling all of us to keep our mouths shut because we were blasting the segments before they were even aired. But WWE wanted to do it, so apparently we should all shut up, because "none of us know what we're talking about".

So:

JKO
Trouble in Paradise
Tyler44
Dagger Dias
HBK-aholic
fb481777
midnight (take some of your own advice and go back to being a fan, not a "Shareholder")

....

you all have been called out, and we need some explanations from you. If these segments had potential, and each of you scolded the rest of us for blasting these segments this past week ... why were they canned?

Let's get the spin in motion here.
 
Now that Raw is over, and this thread will begin to die ... all I'll say is that WWE made the right move to nix these segments, as I have no doubt that they would have been made a part of WWE Wrestlecrap History, alongside the likes of the Gobbledy Gooker, the Hell in a Kennel match, Mae Young giving birth to a hand ... and the Barack Obama vs Hillary Clinton and especially the Donald Trump vs Rosie O'Donnel matches.

There was absolutely nothing good that could have come out of this segment at all. Hornswoggle is not really a wrestler. He can't work a Face vs Face program with DX ... other than IF he turned Heel again, and was somehow aligned with Sheamus in the process (which actually may ... I emphasize the word "MAY" .... have some potential with Sheamus taking over Finlay's role).

But before this thread dies, I would like all the "WWE Shareholders" who defended this segment earlier in the thread, to come in here and explain to us WHY this segment was scrapped. Here, all of you were telling all of us to keep our mouths shut because we were blasting the segments before they were even aired. But WWE wanted to do it, so apparently we should all shut up, because "none of us know what we're talking about".

So:

JKO
Trouble in Paradise
Tyler44
Dagger Dias
HBK-aholic
fb481777
midnight (take some of your own advice and go back to being a fan, not a "Shareholder")

....

you all have been called out, and we need some explanations from you. If these segments had potential, and each of you scolded the rest of us for blasting these segments this past week ... why were they canned?

Let's get the spin in motion here.

Do you honestly wonder why it was so annoying, and why we felt the need to ask why people were complaining before seeing something? It's akin to completely ripping a film to shreds and when asked whether you've watched it - 'no'. You can make a guess, such as the thread title ASKED whether it had the POTENTIAL to be bad. But then you have posters saying "Yeah, there's no way around it, this is going to be awful". They had absolutely no way of knowing that, yet, once again, the desire to complain about the WWE overtook them.

Now, on to why it was cancelled - your guess is as good as mine. Neither of us work for it, I'm not Vince McMahon or the creative team, so what more can we say? We can speculate maybe McMahon didn't like it all that much. We can speculate it wasn't feasible to have it on the show. However, seeings as McMahon has done a lot in terms of this type of humour recently, I'm going to take a random guess that it wasn't the humour that stopped him. My guess - he reads Wrestlezone.
 
I really don't think it's been scrapped completely... they had the segment where they mentioned having to go to "Little Peoples Court" so I still believe they will have this segment at some point in the future.
 
Sidious, I suggest you go back and read what I said. I said many times that the segment was likely going to be bad. I however also said that I would watch and give it a chance. If it was funny and good, than I would have been a man about it and said I was wrong.

Why was it scrapped? Probably for the reason that they thought that it would have been a bad idea and they had other things they wanted to happen. Things that couldn't have been done in the time span.

Take my own advice? I am a fan. I watch the show because I find it enjoyable. I have some problems with it, but at the same time watch when I can. As long as I like what I see I'll continue to watch, but unlike some people here I don't care about backstage politics, could care less who HHH is married to, why people are/ are not being pushed, and I don't care why x is getting the title shot. I just go with the flow and let what's happening happen. As I said, some people here just need to go back to being a fan. Just watch it to like it, not to constantly nitpick. Not to complain about why this guy isn't getting a shot, or why this guy is. Being a fan is watching something because you like it. That we need to get back to and not take everything so stinkin seriously.
 
I actually did watch Raw (after saying I wouldn't) and was relieved they didn't show it. I kept thinking it might have to do with Linda's campaign. I know that might be reaching a bit; but if I was Linda & running for the Senate, I wouldn't want something like that to air on WWE when I'm already being attacked by my opponents for past WWE controversial storylines/ social gaffes...
 
you all have been called out, and we need some explanations from you. If these segments had potential, and each of you scolded the rest of us for blasting these segments this past week ... why were they canned?

Let's get the spin in motion here.


I can think of a few possibilities.

1. Vince actually has people keeping tabs on our posts on here and after so many complaints were brought by these people to McMahon he decides to cancel the segment.

This (while possible) is probably not what happened. I'm pretty sure that Vince couldn't care less what the internet fans think since we are such a small percentage of the total fanbase.

2. Troyer was supposed to play a large part in this segment and he might not have been comfortable with being in it for some reason.

This one gets my vote on what most likely happened. If he was supposed to be in it but was uncomfortable then the idea would have to be revised and/or scrapped. Perhaps it was both, or a combination of these two things along with other possibilities. Who knows, there will likely be a report soon with the reasons behind the segment not airing. Then we'll find out.

Now, I believe that the "DX is sued by Hornswoggle" storyline is not dead yet. They will probably not do it at a "Little People Court" for reasons that are still unknown, but that doesn't mean the storyline is being canceled entirely. Troyer told Hornswoggle he should go through with suing DX, remember? Just because HHH and HBK claimed it was "a dream" that they got sued doesn't mean it is a dead story. Now, if it weren't for Troyer telling Hornswoggle to go through with it, then I would agree that the story was scrapped. Guess what though? That didn't happen.

So.... unless we see a report along the lines of "DX/Hornswoggle storyline scrapped" then it might still be going on. They are probably still going to do it, just not with a "Little People Court".

On another note.... I don't really consider myself a "shareholder" at least not by Sidious' definition. I do still enjoy the WWE product, but more because I am able to just ignore the stuff that I find stupid about it (I'm looking at YOU, guest hosts!).... and for the most part I still find it entertaining, plus I give segments a chance before they air as opposed to shooting them down before they are shown on tv. Nearly everybody shot down the idea and thought they were going to hate it. I knew it probably would have been stupid but was still going to give it a chance.

Liking everything I'm told by WWE to like is one thing, and giving a segment a chance to entertain me without having a negative attitude about it.... are two different things. That's more or less the points I was trying to make with my posts I was called out for.

Hope that clears some up.
 
Well Lord Sidious, I want you to explain to me a few things.

1.) You call me out because I defended the segment. Well in my post, I did not defend this segment directly, I defended pretty much DX. That was pretty much the whole purpose of my first post on this thread. I related everyone's hatred towards DX or just Triple H to the fact he was going to be in the courtroom segment. I did not at all say in my post "Wow, i can't wait for the Hornswoggle promo with DX during the courtroom. I think it is going to be wicked funny and it has so much potential." I was pretty much saying I hate when people completely bash something before it even comes. Let's say there is a rumor that Cena will face the Undertaker at Wrestlemania, I absolutely can't stand when everyone starts bashing it like 5 months ahead before they even see the match saying it will suck and that Cena is terrible and doesn't deserve that. Now sometimes it is logical that something might just completely suck like the Santino and Vicky match or the Chavo and Hornswoggle moments, but in this case with the courtroom segment, (I can see everyone's bitching about Hornswoggle because i am not a fan of him either), what got me mad was the DX bashing because they can at least make a segment decent. For a segment, most of the time more than one person will be involved, and when both of those people completely are a joke, then that is when bashing can be necessary. But if there are 1 or more people in that segment that can cut a promo (DX), then I don't feel ridiculous bashing should be mandatory. So explain to me why you accused me of defending this segment and saying it had potential when not anywhere in my post I said this segment WILL be good. I said A segment can be good if you watch it like a fan and not a critic, but I never said this segment has potential to be amazing.

2.) Why did you consider me a "Shareholder"? When in my post did i start talking about how Vince McMahon is always right and we should bow down to how awesome he is? I was a fan giving my opinion towards the situation. My opinion was that I hate people bashing DX because they feel necessary to always hate Triple H no matter what he is doing or involved in. The only thing I can see where you might of called me a "Shareholder" is when I made a comment about how everyone hates Vince but then forgot what he has brought us. That doesn't mean that I agree with everything he does, but in this case I feel embarrassed for those people when they trash him and say he should retire because he doesn't know what he is doing. I just feel that the man does know what he is doing, but that doesn't make me love him and listen to everything he wants me to do. I'm sorry, but I guess if you make a positive comment about wwe or Vince McMahon you are a "Shareholder" and you aren't a "Shareholder", but a fan if you hate Vince and rebel against everything and disagree with everything Vince does regarding who to cheer for. I don't give a fuck about ratings and I don't care how much money wwe makes. You call me a "WWE Shareholder", but I don't go around looking at stocks and saying "Oh well since Cena gives the business about 3 million dollars in merchandise every week, then he should be cheered." The definition of a shareholder is this: Any person, company, or other institution that owns at least 1 share in a company. A shareholder may also be referred to as a stockholder. I'm not that at all. Yes I do feel insulted you called me that because I left a comment on that thread you made about "WWE Shareholders" saying how I hated them. Am I suppose to hate everything Vince does and not enjoy anything on the tv to be considered a fan like you and not a "WWE Shareholder"? I do not get spoon-fed what to like on the program. I hate Hornswoggle, Santino, Primo, Cryme Tyme, The Great Khali, and MVP even though I am "supposed to like them", and I like The Miz, Edge, Sheamus, Jericho, Rey Mysterio, Randy Orton, Ted DiBiase, CM Punk, and Kane even though if I was a follower of Vince, then I would have to hate them. That is off the top of my head, so obviously there are more examamples but I don't want you to read everyone I hate and like. I enjoy mostly heels more than faces just because I feel feel they always are much more entertaining. Also just because I say that doesn't mean I'm on those fans that "think it's cool to boo faces and cheer heels", it just means I don't care what wwe tells me who I have to like or hate, and I just like who is entertaining and not boring in the ring or when cutting promos. I am not a "WWE Shareholder", and I just want to know why you called me that.

3.) Reasons it may have been cut:
-It was just a rumor on the internet about the promo happening; it was never suppose to happen
-A problem went wrong with the filming
-Vince wanted DX at the arena and not involved in that kind of promo
-Someone in wwe came up with a better solution instead of the promo
-Maybe Verne Troyer felt harassed or could not participate in it
-They couldn't fit that segment in with all the other stuff going on during RAW with DX

I don't know, but there are so many things that could of been possibilities, so I think it is ignorant to just suggest right away that the segment was shitty so Vince did not allow it to go on. That may have been the reason, but then again it may have not been.
 
That was a total waste of time. They can stop that, by bringing Hornswaggle over to ECW. In that time, maybe give some other ppl more time. I mean first of all, DX didn't even go through to this "Court for little ppl". Maybe, if Hornswaggle had attacked DX, costed them there match, that may have gotten better segements. Just my opinion
 
Okay why exactly are we complaining about this if they didn't even go through with the segment? If you think it's so bad then don't watch it. I really think you guys are overreacting to something you don't even have to watch even if it is going to be horrible.
 
I would agree with Barbedwire, I mean where is vince coming up with this stuff, I can see it appealing to the little kids, but to the die-hard WWE fans, that have been with the program since the 80s, this segment is going to make the fans want to change the station, because u have a little guy who could be doing something else instead of wasting TV time, like being Finlay's manager, being the little Bastard, who hid under the ring. DX is getting old too, doesn't anyone feel like the DX years were back in 98 or 97 when they began the DX Angle, I mean we have Shawn Michaels and Triple H acting like a bunch of degenerates when they could be making Hunter a Heel again and putting over talent like The Miz, Evan Bourne, Ted DiBaise Jr. Cody Rhodes, and Jack Swagger. So my final point is that this segment is going to suck, and vince will wonder what he did wrong.
 
Okay why exactly are we complaining about this if they didn't even go through with the segment?

Well according to pretty much every site, it looks like they are going through with it tomorrow. Woops.

If you think it's so bad then don't watch it.

But that's the problem. There shouldn't be something so bad on Raw that's actually unwatchable. That really shows that there's a problem.


I really think you guys are overreacting to something you don't even have to watch even if it is going to be horrible.

So it's overreacting to having one of my favourite TV shows ruined for me by something that's unwatchable? It could be offensive and embarassing. I still like Raw and WWE shows deeply. But if you don't think that this segment could be awful, then you're deluding yourself.
 
So it looks like they are actually going to go through with it. I was hoping that they weren't but it looks like they are.

I still don't like the segment and I still think that this will not be good. However, I don't think that it will "turn anyone off the product forever" bad. I have a feeling these segments will have pretty much the same effect the various ZZ top segments had. You watch it, see a few jokes, and then go to commercial saying "what was that".

However they could be not quite bad either. As with anything I will watch it and see if WWE does it good. I will try and put my preconceived notions aside and judge it as if I were just a casual viewer who had no idea what was going on.
 
So it looks like they are actually going to go through with it. I was hoping that they weren't but it looks like they are.

I still don't like the segment and I still think that this will not be good. However, I don't think that it will "turn anyone off the product forever" bad. I have a feeling these segments will have pretty much the same effect the various ZZ top segments had. You watch it, see a few jokes, and then go to commercial saying "what was that".

So they really are still going to do this thing after all? Maybe it won't be as bad as people have "thought" it would be for the past 2 weeks now. I stand by my previous statements in this thread.... let's just wait, watch it first, THEN you can bash it all you want. Since you brought up ZZ Top.... the segments and stuff they did on Raw were awful, I doubt it'd be as bad as that.

However they could be not quite bad either. As with anything I will watch it and see if WWE does it good. I will try and put my preconceived notions aside and judge it as if I were just a casual viewer who had no idea what was going on.

Right. They won't know if they will dislike something until they give it a chance. That is why I will continue to defend this segment (no matter how stupid it probably will end up being) until the thing actually airs.
 
Frankly, I wish they would go ahead and air these segments so that we can actually have something to judge...not as if that fact has stopped any of us, but still. I happen to feel a little cheated right now given that we've been promised these things and they haven't aired...and I doubt they ever will. I should think whatever littler wrestlers they've found will (and should) feel a bit cheated as well that their work is being shafted. It's not as if these guys, who've likely trained every bit as hard as their "normal" sized counterparts, get a lot of work outside of roadside taverns and hole-in-the-wall bars. I was hoping we might see a few from the MWF. Eh, whatever, it's not as if these performers are big enough for Vince (and I mean that in the most literal sense.)

I just get a little peeved when it's implied that because these performers aren't as tall automatically means they're not as talented. But it could be something else. Maybe the PG era censors decided there were too many short jokes.
 
Apparently this is taking place next week. I'm not sure why with them being tag champions. I think, now they're the champions, they need to drop this feud and begin to show that the tag titles are the most important thing to them therefore giving the titles more prestige. I'm quite excited to see this, I don't understand all the hate it's gotten before being aired. They should have done this a few weeks ago, but it should still be good.
 
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