Jeff Hardy Shoots on CM Punk

[cboedeker2]

Let me state first off that I am a fan of both Jeff Hardy, and Matt Hardy, and as a fan I am disgusted with their comments towards CM Punk. I've heard numerous times that CM Punk is a dick, but that by no means warrants the lack of professionalism that Matt and Jeff Hardy have laid upon him. If you ask me, the time frame in which this video was filmed does not matter. While Matt may or not have been recently released by WWE at the time of filming, and whether or not Jeff had signed with TNA at the time or not, does not matter. What surprises me is that nobody else has pointed out yet that Jeff's biggest fan base is women and young kids. If TNA does not do something about this, what kind of message are they sending to the kids that might see this? Some may say that the kids aren't going to see it. All I gotta say is at this point, just hours after being put up, the video already has almost 7,000 youtube views. The more people watch, the more likely it is to be seen when you search "Jeff Hardy" on youtube. TNA REALLY needs to do something about this, and if they don't, they could have some serious problems on their hands. On the other hand, if this is all a work, I have officially lost every bit of respect that I have ever had for Eric Bischoff, Hulk Hogan, and TNA as a whole.

 

[sTyLnK]

I have no speakers at the moment so I am not exactly sure what was said, only the topics discussed. Would anyone be able to write the jist of what they said?

 

[gers09]

i just watched it and Jeff and Matt are both high a don't know if they really know if they know what the hell there on about esp Jeff he seams to be just rattling on about punk

As for matt he seams to be wanting to start something by what he said. I think he must want Amy (lita) back and thinks this will do it.

i am glad these two are gone from WWE i liked them when they were in it but when you see them in this video and the way Matt was going on before he left they are NOT good role models for young children

 

[Undertaker the 5th]

I think the video was pretty funny. Not because of the things they said, but because it is just funny to see those guys stoned and talking shit. I wonder if that is how I act when I get drunk? hhmmm.

Anyways, i don't think it is a worked shoot and if it is, then it just gives me another reason not to watch TNA. CM Punk is a nerd? WTF. So CM Punk is smart now? Jeff should have had this stoner talking shit in WWE as a gimmick. It seems to natural to be something that TNA wrote. As for Fat Hardy, there is a reason Lita left him. Nobody gives a shit about him.

 

[UFOcalling]

Hahaha! I do find this video to be in poor taste, but I really don't think Matt or Jeff were "on coke", or anything else anyone has tried to say about what they were on.

To me, it really just seems like this video was filmed after a night of hard-drinking. The guys just seem drunk and tired to me, I really wish that the resolution was better so we could get a better look at their eyes. Jeff's pupils don't look too big (sign of being on coke, meth, or another "upper"), and they also don't look too small (sign of being on opiates, pills, heroin, or other "downers"). It was harder to gauge Matt's eyes, since his eyes are such a dark color to begin with. They had OBVIOUSLY been drinking, it's possible that they had smoked weed as well...but nothing harder than that. Like I already mentioned, just seems like some drunk tired guys at three in the morning acting "tough". Ha!

I'm not saying that drinking to that extent is perfectly fine or anything, especially not all the time. I'm also not saying that it's okay to say whatever you want to, and excuse your behavior by saying "...I was drunk...".

Does anyone know who shot this video? Was it a fan, a friend, or just some random person in that all-night diner? My assumption is that someone saw Matt & Jeff were drunk, and decided to try and get them riled up enough to say this crap. I'm not trying to take any of the blame off of the Hardys. No matter how drunk you are, you should know that any video/photo could end up on the internet in this day & age...and it could come back to bite you in the ass (like it's doing right now).

Someone else already asked this question too, but does anyone know WHEN this was shot? Obviously it was filmed after Jeff left WWE, and it looks like it was cold outside (judging by the flannel shirt Jeff was wearing, and the winter coats on other people in the restaurant). That doesn't necessarily mean that it was filmed recently, it could have been filmed earlier this year (early 2010).

It feasibly could have been filmed soon after Jeff left the WWE, maybe Jeff was still bitter about Punk doing a promo or two making fun of him right after he was off WWE television. Who knows for sure, but it's obvious that Punk will take the high road by not responding directly...maybe he'll get a subtle jab on Hardy during commentary next week though, now THAT would be hilarious.

At least this video was good for a laugh, lets hope that Jeff's probation officer doesn't see this! Haha!

 

[BASSER911414]

iv been watching the hardys since i was 6. jumping off ladders, off cages, onto tables onto ladders busting noses their own and others. i mean they were hardcore.

the moment they went single. NOSE DIVE. they r famous for being one of the best tag teams of all times. probably the best high flying tag team of all time. jeff hardy cannot compete for heavyweight title gold. hes better off with secondary titles. matt hardy cannot compete PERIOD. hes good with jeff has a cohesive unit. otherwise he sucked ass.

jeff hardy is a more marketable performer. but with the drug trials and all tht i dunno y any promotion wud want to keep him. matt i dunno y any promotion wud want to keep him even without drug trials.

i was disappointed when i saw tht video. watching ur favourite tag team rant abt a guy who was able to keep away frm all the shit tht jhardy cudnt keep his hands off of. punk made a name for himself. he won every title available in the ohio valley wrestling and then made a name for himsefl in the wwe. and as far as matt goes the guy just cant over a girl who screwed him over and then strted dating other ppl. tht was a lame comment 'im the one she calls'.

and btw i thnk tht vid was made after jeff joined tna cuz when he was saying motherfuckin and showing middle fingers he mentioned tht u can do it in ur world but he can in his which in turn wud mean tna wudnt it. just my opinion

cm punk wont reply to a comment like this im sure. either wwe wont let him or he wont bother.

and for the guys saying tht punks a dick. i took my little cousin 7 yrs old to a house show in albany last year we were in the first row right in frnt of where the ring steps r put diagonal to the ring ropes. when cm punk was going to the ring my cousin tried getting close to touch or pat or watever ppl do to cm punk. he tripped and hurt his head on the steel barrier/fence NOT BARRICADE. cm punk actually went to where he was. he didnt cross the barrier or anythng but picked him up asked him if he was ok smiled and put him back on his seat. i doubt tht a dick wud do tht. maybe his is with press and media and over excited fans but honestly there are little famous ppl who rnt

 

[XgringolocoX]

Didn't read most of the posts, sorry. Just wanted to give my first impression. It doens't appear to me, at least definativly, that the Hardy's are high. This feels like a 5am diner call after going out and having a good time. Jeff doesn't sound all that fucked up, nor does Matt. It's the "I"m still a little tipsy and fucking tired as hell" sound. I've been there plenty and no, I don't have substance issues. Aside from coffee.
I think it's pretty lame that many people automaticly assume Jeff and Matt are high ALL the time. Since when did the internet become so god damned conservative?

 

[Sully]

I don't understand how Jeff and Matt could act like that, when WWE took them under their wing. The Hardy's were found in the Independent Circuit, and trained by Dory Funk, Jr., A WWE legend himself. How Jeff could sit there and mock the WWE after how the entire company started who HE is, I have no idea. Jeff says he made Cm Punk the way he is. He made his character. I don't understand how Jeff can make the character, when WWE creative are the ones who write the storylines. Never knew Jeff used to be on the board.

What he said about Undertaker also got me fired up. As most of you said, he just seemed stoned out of his mind, and had no clue what he was talking about. So what, Jeff is all hurt because the Undertaker didn't say Hi to him? After Jeff not only went through drug charges, but also jumped ship after his release. Why didn't Jeff say hello to the Undertaker, Taker is the Legend, not Jeff. Jeff should have went over there, and greeted him, it's simply shows respect, which Jeff Hardy obviously does not have.

 

[Low_Ki]

Its all quite sad really.

I mean on the surface, it doesn't really look like much more than an early morning diner run after a night on the lash.

What is sad though is that the man who spent most of his time in front of the camera is THE representative of TNA wrestling. Now I'm not saying that he needs to be a role model, but from a business standpoint that does not look good.

The beauty for the WWE and CM Punk here is that they need to do absolutely nothing at all. The Hardy's have done nothing but make themselves look really stupid on camera. The whole thing that Jeff was accusing Punk of taking drugs to get to sleep at night kind of made me laugh a little. Last time I checked, Jeff was the one with the criminal record for drug possession.

Oh well, and as far as Matt goes, is there really much to say...not really. Done.

 

[Skairipa Matrix]

i watched the video a few times and Jeff looks really stoned in the video but as far as embrassing TNA i dont think thats true nobody really knows when this video was done and while Jeff is wrong about making CM Punk into a "mother fucking superstar" as he said whats wrong with a little trash talking? Matt is more known for this kind of stuff then Jeff but ill be surprised if TNA did anything about this to be honest.....and to the people who think TNA should take the title off Hardy for this why would they do that? hes doing good as the champion in the ring and besides they need immortal to have the TNA Title so they dont "lose their power" but hey thats just my thoughts.....and as far as Matt goes hes not in a wrestling company right now so nobody cares.....and to the people who think Matt isnt over Lita yet......he is over her there just close friends now Matt has said that on his youtube that he has found someone else and that him and Amy are just close friends and thats all! i still expect to see Matt Hardy in TNA within the next few monthes

 

[Chess]

Well, nothing shocking at all. Lets be honest who really gives a shit if they are high or drunk. Like Jeff said Punk is probably on pills like most wrestlers. This is clearly old, they are both out of WWE so they do not need to be child friendly.

Why do I care if they act stupid in public, I don't, just put on good matches.

Punk is overated anyway

 

[Alex]

Okay they seem really drunk, but still thats just poor taste. You can argue Jeff did make CM Punk a bigger star than he was (which is true to a point) In all honesty I just think Jeff's pissed off about that promo Punk did on him soon after his drug charge and decided to vent his anger. Matt I dunno what the hell he's doing.

 

[SinCityBlitz]

Agreed. although he does sound stoned, who gives a fuck?. no young kid will see this. Let him live his life.

The guy still has a court case coming up due to drugs and you say who cares? Really? This just shows everyone how stupid he is.

Didn't read most of the posts, sorry. Just wanted to give my first impression. It doens't appear to me, at least definativly, that the Hardy's are high. This feels like a 5am diner call after going out and having a good time. Jeff doesn't sound all that fucked up, nor does Matt. It's the "I"m still a little tipsy and fucking tired as hell" sound. I've been there plenty and no, I don't have substance issues. Aside from coffee.
I think it's pretty lame that many people automaticly assume Jeff and Matt are high ALL the time. Since when did the internet become so god damned conservative?

Well it's pretty easy to automatically assume due to the fact that Jeff Hardy is a known druggie. How can you watch that video and not see them stoned?

As far as the video goes, it's sour grapes. He didn't like how his last run in WWE went. Tough shit. Grow a set and move on. If you have problems with Punk be a man and settle them face to face instead of using the internet to relay your message.

He should be worried about his upcoming court case and making sure TNA survives and not what is going on in the WWE.

 

[playisanadjective]

in my opinion it seems like the two cats are blitz drunk. i mean, this is a sad display of bitterness and not appropriately followed by smack talking. this just seems like a its going to have a bad effect on the general outlook people have on the hardys anyway, simply because of matt's grape eating and his rambling ways on youtube (which i do watch regularly :])

i hope that they let punk jab at him, but i hope they do not let him call hardy out directly. as for tna, i believe that something should be said to hardy about this. as a wrestling fan and being smart to the business for anyone to say that they made punk a star... i just think that its disrespectful and absolutely not true. punk got ARENAS to stand up when he was wrestling in WWECW. thats saying alot!

 

[Lionshare]

Jeff is high, and matt is eating, everything is the same in the "hardy universe" ... errr i mean pluto.

Ok, let me be serious for a sec, this is bad for TNA, your champion is ranting, high, drunk about a feud 1 year later, making an ass of himself, and putting his company in the toilet at the same time. This is why you cant make champion a druggie, you cant relly on them, and im sure as hell you can make them your top dog if you know he is going to make some stupid actions like that.

 

[d_henderson1810]

As others have said, do we have any indication of when this was shot? Apparently after Jeff left WWE at least since he talks about "try doing this in YOUR company". But other than that, who knows.

Hey, for all we know, CM Punk deserves to have some attitude thrown his way. It's not that hard to come across a story about Punk being a jerk in real life, and Jeff's story about Punk not being one of the guys to be social and say hi backstage doesn't sound all that outlandish to me. I'm a big fan of Punk and when I come across stories of him being completely rude to fans at Taste of Chicago in the summer or ignoring people in the airport, it's kinda disappointing. Some people stick up for him by saying these guys don't want to be hounded all day by fans, I say "poor you". Don't make your millions of dollars on WWE programming then if you think you only have to be "on" for a few hours a week when the cameras are rolling. WWE Superstars still are real life heroes to a lot of people, and if you can't be nice to fans who approach you in public, then you're a pretty sad person..

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I'd like you to make a million dollars, and then see if you like being hounded.

I do agree that these people need to be accomodating to fans who approach them for autographs. But there are limits.

I remember Mick Foley writing in one of his books that he was at a restuarant one time, and went to the toilet. A fan followed him in. Now Foley actually went into the cubicle to drop his dinner... AND THE FAN FOLLOWED HIM IN! I mean, that is going too far. So should Foley not be able to shit without a fan hanging around, just because he is rich and successful?

Some fans also rudely thrust an autograph book in a celebrity's face (I've seen it happen) and say "Sign this!". When the star is annoyed about the lack of manners, and expects a "please" or "thank you" the fan acts like "Hey, I made you famous, so you owe me! What, too good to sign my autograph?" when all the star did was turn down a rude request that anybody would turn down if they were approached in such a way.

 

[WalkingContradiction]

I agree with what Lionshare said. TNA's decision to make Jeff a champion was one of the worst decisions they have had? I hope Jeff drops the title soon, to anyone.

 

[President Evil]

Its unfortunate to see the Hardys like this. Specially Jeff. This guy was a Mega star in WWE during late 2008 to summer 2009. He could have been one of the top 5 guys in the company for years. But chose to flush that down the toilet just to have a bit more freedom somewhere else. I understand that, but some times too much of something is just too much.

These guys are like what, mid to late 30's? They still have a few good years in them. And its unfortunate to see talent in this field go to waste. I hope they (specially Jeff) dont become the next Scott Hall drugging and drinking his ass off. And end up with a pacemaker 10 years from now.

 

[chrisddusombre]

Man for the sucess the Hardyz have had in their Careers for them to resort to this is really SAD. Jeff sounds bitter and he looked drugged out as did Matt in that whole Video. CM Punk was already becoming a Star in WWE on ECW before he got involved with Jeff Hardy. Just really sad.

Also Matt needs to get over Lita already,its been 6 years just stop already. I bet TNA is really proud of Jeff as their World Champion after that garbage.

I agree 100% with this Jeff is a sorry excuse of a world champion. Matt well i've always respected him but now lately hes become more of a complainer and its getting annoying Jeff your best bet is to become straight Edge then maybe you will be a good wrestler and Matt stop complaining because your even more of a Diva then the Divas right now

 

[Nikeo]

I haven't seen the video but the IWC is going to have to come to terms that Punk was a complete FAILURE as a main-event face and from the first day he went to Raw he went downhill. Going from the main-event to the midcard in the space of three of four months is NOT a good sign. The fans didn't buy him as a main-eventer and nobody cared about him. Fact. Whether you like it or not, Jeff Hardy made CM Punk. Had Punk cashed in on anyone else and cut the same promos on anybody else they would not have been HALF as effective. Hardy was, arguably, the most over individual in the company, the people loved him. That is a massive factor in Punk's rise to notoriety, his promos would have been worthless if they'd been cut on Triple H or Batista.

I'm sorry, I don't think any of you know CM Punk in real life and cannot comment on his backstage attitude. Jeff Hardy, despite all of his issues, has never been called anything but professional, well-mannered and an all round nice guy by anyone I've ever heard interviewed about him. Paul London, a dude that HATES Matt, couldn't find any faults with him. Jeff has proven to be a nice guy, like it or not, and if he says Punk wasn't a social dude I would tent to believe him. Wasn't 'Taker rumored to be furious with Punk's attitude?

To be honest, I don't blame Hardy for this video at all. Let's not forget that CM Punk, after everything Jeff did for him, had no problem going out on live PPV and shooting on Jeff's arrest. He could have refused to do so on moral grounds, wrestlers have refused to do much more, but he was happy enough to kick someone while they were down. I lost a lot of respect for Punk when he did that and if it had been the other way around the IWC would be up in arms.

This thread has less to do with Jeff's video and more to do with the fact that the IWC don't like people speaking out against their little crush.

QUOTE: I'm actually laughing, I read the comments first and then watched the video. TNA will not care about this and 'nor will the WWE. Obviously, none of you have ever seen somebody on drugs because that is neither weed or a serious substance. It's a guy who's drunk. You idiots. You're complaining about him playing down straight edge? I don't agree with straight edge, that doesn't make me an evil druggy. Punk has the right to preach about straight edge off the show and in the media but Jeff can't disagree with it? That's pretty damned funny. This video is not an issue, it's not bitter in it's tone and it's not something to get up in arms about. In actuality it's an insight into how much of a prick Punk must have been to piss off such an easy going guy. Read their book, Matt has always had a thing for shooting but Jeff never has, you can't just dismiss him as being bitter, there's always two sides to every story.

 

[vampirek]

QUOTE: I'm actually laughing, I read the comments first and then watched the video. TNA will not care about this and 'nor will the WWE. Obviously, none of you have ever seen somebody on drugs because that is neither weed or a serious substance. It's a guy who's drunk. You idiots. You're complaining about him playing down straight edge? I don't agree with straight edge, that doesn't make me an evil druggy. Punk has the right to preach about straight edge off the show and in the media but Jeff can't disagree with it? That's pretty damned funny. This video is not an issue, it's not bitter in it's tone and it's not something to get up in arms about. In actuality it's an insight into how much of a prick Punk must have been to piss off such an easy going guy. Read their book, Matt has always had a thing for shooting but Jeff never has, you can't just dismiss him as being bitter, there's always two sides to every story.

Seeing as though I'm an idiot here, please could you tell me how you get drunk.... because I'm sure it involved the intaking of a drug. Therefore Jeff Hardy was on drugs, its irrelevant it is legal or not he is under the influence therefore anyone saying Hardy is on drugs in this video is correct by terms of definition. Now do yourself a favour and shut up.

Whilst yes there are two sides to every story, why now? Why attack Punk jealous that the guy is getting more praise for his mic work alone than his title reign?

The issue here is Punk can preach his straight edge life, why? because its a good thing, a good thing for society and something people should take notice of. Why should they listen to someone who is known drug user criticising it and therefore preaching drug use. That is not acceptable for someone in the public eye. Any views on this should be kept privately otherwise you'll end up with a certainly minority thinking drug use is ok.

 

[Derf]

I think this was very unprofessional. Simple as that. If you do drugs, or don't live "Straight Edge", don't go tauntin it as the better way to live, because common sence says it's not. TNA was taking a risk hiring him right after his drug charges were laid, but there was no risk making him a champion before the charges were passed; That was just stupid.

Since we still have 2 more pre taped episodes of Impact to get through before they do anything else, by the time the next show takes place this video will be in the past, and the Marks behind the scenes will just hope we all forgot and continue to push the NWOv2 as strong as they can, will "UBER POPULAR JEFF HARDY!!!1!" as the champ.

 

[BigDaddy420]

I think it's great...plus I don't think Jeff looks or sounds high...Matt seems a lil off but so what...I love good ol' fashioned sh!t talkin'.

For everyone in here that thinks they are either acting or drunk..... get your head out of the sand. Both of them are stoned off somas. If I was dixie I would be mortified that I made this addict the face of my company. If this doesn't show why neither of them are in the "E" anymore I don't know what would. They are a mess plain and simple. What I want to know is how is TNA going to explain Jeff's leaving the company when he has to do a bid in prison?

 

[Nikeo]

Seeing as though I'm an idiot here, please could you tell me how you get drunk.... because I'm sure it involved the intaking of a drug. Therefore Jeff Hardy was on drugs, its irrelevant it is legal or not he is under the influence therefore anyone saying Hardy is on drugs in this video is correct by terms of definition. Now do yourself a favour and shut up.

Whilst yes there are two sides to every story, why now? Why attack Punk jealous that the guy is getting more praise for his mic work alone than his title reign?

The issue here is Punk can preach his straight edge life, why? because its a good thing, a good thing for society and something people should take notice of. Why should they listen to someone who is known drug user criticising it and therefore preaching drug use. That is not acceptable for someone in the public eye. Any views on this should be kept privately otherwise you'll end up with a certainly minority thinking drug use is ok.

Now you're splitting hairs and it's damn funny. Fine, drink is a drug. Do you drink coffee? Tea? Coca-Cola? If so you're a drug user as well, by your own definition. So is the vast majority of this site, I'm sure.

Thankfully, most of us don't like arguing semantics to try and create an argument that, sadly, isn't there. You're right, drink is legal. It is a legal substance that the vast majority of people partake of. You do realize that legends such as Bret Hart, HBK, etc, etc were regularly drunk off their heads on a daily basis? In the days before Facebook and TMZ a lot of things happened that we never heard of. If Jeff Hardy was getting twisted drunk every night we'd hear about it. He obviously enjoyed a few drinks that night, legally, and didn't appear to be involved in any violence. To be honest, he doesn't even seem that drunk.

I could understand if you were complaining he was posting videos of himself under the influence of an illegal substance but that's not the case and you're STILL trying to act as if it's a cardinal sin. It's not. It's very legal and HARDLY immoral. If he was drunk and sexually harassing women or starting fights I'd understand, but he's not. You're looking for an excuse to fall him a fuck up, even in situations where it is NOT justified.

Straight edge is good for society? I'm sorry, but I have the right to choose to drink, to smoke and to take drugs. I don't always exercise this right but I have the freedom to make the choice for myself. Straight edge is self inflicted abstinence, like every other movement on the planet it is NOT beyond criticism and it is not for everyone. I happen to echo Hardy's view on it, to be honest. I smoke to deal with stress and I drink safely with my friends on the weekends. That's my choice and it doesn't make me a bad person.

Right, you're saying Jeff Hardy condones drug use by disagreeing with straight edge? That's pretty funny because that's called putting words in someone's mouth. He could have been disagreeing with it's views on coffee, alcohol, etc, etc. Hardy has the right to disagree with whatever he wants and has the right to voice that opinion. You can't allow and disallow opinions based on whether or not you agree with it, that is stupid and limits something known as FREEDOM OF SPEECH. Both Hardy and Punk can preach whatever they want, just because you disagree with something doesn't make it immoral.

"Any views on this should be kept privately otherwise you'll end up with a certainly minority thinking drug use is ok"

Want to show me where Hardy condoned that? I don't see it anywhere. I've never seen Hardy echo anything but the sentiment of his SD promos which did NOT focus on condoning drug use but on the individual's right to choose to drink or smoke.

Oh btw! If you want to play the definition game, CM Punk does not have the right to call himself straight edge. He drinks pepsi which contains caffeine, a stimulant drug. Straight edge preaches not intaking any substance with mind-altering properties. CM Punk ain't straight-edge.

 

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Just a thought: what if this video is planned? A few weeks ago Hogan said that TNA is going to start shooting a lot. Maybe this is the first example of it.