Jack Swagger and US Championship

[CyberPunk]

I think this.is the perfect time for Jack Swagger to get back into mix. Here is an idea. Once his cole thong is over (hope sooner rather than later), he can go after US belt. I don't see kofi doing anything useful with the belt snd Swagger can really use it. Plus it would be awsome to see the All American American US Champ.
So what do you think?
Can Swagger be a credible US Champion?
Can he bring the prestige back to the US belt?

Discuss.....

 

[Lachie Batista]

I think this.is the perfect time for Jack Swagger to get back into mix. Here is an idea. Once his cole thong is over (hope sooner rather than later), he can go after US belt. I don't see kofi doing anything useful with the belt snd Swagger can really use it. Plus it would be awsome to see the All American American US Champ.
So what do you think?
Can Swagger be a credible US Champion?
Can he bring the prestige back to the US belt?

Discuss.....

it would work!!!!! it would fit his gimmick really well

 

[Azane]

I've been waiting for him to win that belt since he started the All American American catch phrase.
I think he could be a really strong US champion, the belt fits him as well as the Million Dollar title did for Ted Sr.

 

[krazyd]

def. think he could bring prestige to the us championship!! hes the all american american after all! id like to see him turn face..someone talked about doing the rvd tv title thing where he holds it for ever bcuz hes the american american n its the us title...i dont hate the idea but obvi he wouldnt hold it for 2 years..i would like to see him defend it frequently tho that is the thing about these two mid card titles they really dont get defened too much if u think about it wen was the last time daniel bryan defended his title...before sheamous i mean

 

[Joshua]

Jack Swagger has held a World Title if I remember right. Seems like giving him a serious US Title run would be a step backwards.

 

[davidimondi]

Yes. I've been wanting this for a while now and krazyd, that was me who had the idea of having Swagger consider the US Title the most important title in the WWE and comparing it to how RVD saw the TV Title. He's a great worker and I believe the work he could do as The All-American United States Champion, both in the ring and on the mic, would be gold.

 

[Wolf Pac]

I'd say they should turn him face and have him win it as a dedication to the US finally getting Bin Laden. He'd be so over with the crowd.

 

[Spidey Revivey]

Jack Swagger has held a World Title if I remember right. Seems like giving him a serious US Title run would be a step backwards.

Have you seen Swagger lately? A United States Championship reign would be a major step forwards with his career. Being Cole's lackey or even having a mascot parade around with him is much much worse than being the US Champion.

 

[hollowpoint]

It's possible and it would be something to add to him gimmick. I don't know if he should be the champ, but I definitely think he should be in the hunt. Im glad they are trying to make the mid card titles semi relevant and credible again.

 

[vampirek]

Jack Swagger has held a World Title if I remember right. Seems like giving him a serious US Title run would be a step backwards.

So if you hold the World Title you can't go on to win the US/IC title? hold the phone someone better tell that to the likes of HHH, Jericho, Kane, Big Show, Flair, Sheamus, Ben.... o right he doesn't exist. Heck even Bret Hart did it.

It's not a step backwards if your career has stalled to the point you are now the trainer a person on the commentary team feuding with one of the commentary team and a former member of it. Basically helping one non-wrestler to feud with a non-wrestler and a 60 year old.

Swagger has the look and the gimmick to make himself a credible champion for the US title, to make the belt look credible and even if he isn't holding it has the right look to be chasing for it.

 

[Joshua]

Have you seen Swagger lately? A United States Championship reign would be a major step forwards with his career. Being Cole's lackey or even having a mascot parade around with him is much much worse than being the US Champion.

The guy has been getting alot of air time on Raw lately whether it be as Coles lackey or not. Seems like main event time on Raw is better than toiling around in the midcard division for a title that means little because the WWE doesn't use it much...

 

[Da Truth]

It would be great to see Swagger with the US title. I would bring a little prestige to it. The thing is one person can't bring prestige to the title it takes serious rilvaries and challeners like during the 80's & 90's.

 

[Spidey Revivey]

The guy has been getting alot of air time on Raw lately whether it be as Coles lackey or not. Seems like main event time on Raw is better than toiling around in the midcard division for a title that means little because the WWE doesn't use it much...

Being a commentator's goon is better than competing for a title? I can't believe that for one bit. Rather have Swagger do something meaningful instead of getting thrown in a Cole vs. Lawler angle randomly. It really looked like they had no idea what to do with him.

Whether or not a belt is underused has little meaning as long as it gives a superstar a reasonable push. And what really looks better for his career: Being a commentator's bitch or being a United States Champion?

It fits his character perfectly. Yeah he was once a World Champion but the more times that is said, the sadder it gets. Give him gold and rebuild him because that title run meant nothing in the long run.

 

[Joshua]

Being a commentator's goon is better than competing for a title? I can't believe that for one bit. Rather have Swagger do something meaningful instead of getting thrown in a Cole vs. Lawler angle randomly. It really looked like they had no idea what to do with him.

Whether or not a belt is underused has little meaning as long as it gives a superstar a reasonable push. And what really looks better for his career: Being a commentator's bitch or being a United States Champion?

It fits his character perfectly. Yeah he was once a World Champion but the more times that is said, the sadder it gets. Give him gold and rebuild him because that title run meant nothing in the long run.

When being a commentators goon gets you serious main event like airtime on the companies A show? Yeah I'd say thats better than making a midcard title run, once again that no one really pays attention to anyway.

Bottom line is the WWE will obviously do some sort of falling out angle with Cole and Swagger with Jack likely turning face and maybe getting some sort of main event push after that.

 

[Spidey Revivey]

When being a commentators goon gets you serious main event like airtime on the companies A show? Yeah I'd say thats better than making a midcard title run, once again that no one really pays attention to anyway.

How exactly has Jack Swagger been given Main Event airtime? Have you seen him compete in the main event? If so then we are watching two different Raws.

Swagger was demoted way before working with Cole, and even at that WWE had nothing for him to do but be Michael's "coach". Hopefully something comes out of him working with him, but you can't be serious when you say Swag would be heading backwards if he were to go for a midcarder title. He isn't a main eventer.

Bottom line is the WWE will obviously do some sort of falling out angle with Cole and Swagger with Jack likely turning face and maybe getting some sort of main event push after that.

And you want him to challenge Cena when it's all over? That's your idea of putting him over, by making him turn face and start a feud with a mega face? At least as a heel he won't be completely buried in that angle. Raw needs heels for Cena to contest with. Turning Swagger face and then throw him up the match card would make absolutely no sense whatsoever.

He would have better luck as a heel against Cena. He would have even more luck if he went for the US title. He would at least have a chance to be relevant then.

Come on, he was in a match that starred commentators, and only one has ever been known as a wrestler in their career.

 

[Joshua]

How exactly has Jack Swagger been given Main Event airtime? Have you seen him compete in the main event? If so then we are watching two different Raws.

Swagger was demoted way before working with Cole, and even at that WWE had nothing for him to do but be Michael's "coach". Hopefully something comes out of him working with him, but you can't be serious when you say Swag would be heading backwards if he were to go for a midcarder title. He isn't a main eventer.




And you want him to challenge Cena when it's all over? That's your idea of putting him over, by making him turn face and start a feud with a mega face? At least as a heel he won't be completely buried in that angle. Raw needs heels for Cena to contest with. Turning Swagger face and then throw him up the match card would make absolutely no sense whatsoever.

He would have better luck as a heel against Cena. He would have even more luck if he went for the US title. He would at least have a chance to be relevant then.

Come on, he was in a match that starred commentators, and only one has ever been known as a wrestler in their career.

Swagger is very over right now. WWE fans love Jim Ross so Swagger is attracting great heat. I don't see the WWE sending him down the card to fued for the US Title. Guys like Kofi Kingston, Drew McIntrye, Mason Ryan (and the rest of the New Nexus excluding Punk) Chris Masters and Evan Bourne have the midcard jammed up as it is. No reason to send swagger down there too.

 

[King Patrick Star]

The way I see it is if this worked in 2001...

...then 10 years later, the All American American would be a great United States Champion 2011. If Sheamus called himself the Champion of the United States of America, then Swagger could be called the All American American Champion. I believe Jack could be a credible U. S. Champ and bring prestige back to the Belt. Then again, I believe anyone could if used correctly.

Speaking of United States Titles, what is the Red, White and Blue Hell is this??

 

[Spidey Revivey]

Swagger is very over right now.

You mean Michael Cole is over.

WWE fans love Jim Ross so Swagger is attracting great heat.

Because it's Cole's heat.

I don't see the WWE sending him down the card to fued for the US Title. Guys like Kofi Kingston, Drew McIntrye, Mason Ryan (and the rest of the New Nexus excluding Punk) Chris Masters and Evan Bourne have the midcard jammed up as it is. No reason to send swagger down there too.

I respect that you have a different opinion on the subject than I do. But your post was about how it would be a step down if the former World Champion captured the US Championship. Sheamus was over a helluva lot more than Swagger, a two-time WWE Champion no less, and he was champion before Kingston. Are you saying a one time World Champion is more over than a two time WWE Champion? I can't see that. Swagger was in a rut in his career before turning into a henchman for a broadcast journalist. His career was going absolutely nowhere, because right after capturing the World title what was he doing? Jobbing, like he was doing right before that.

Yes, there are plenty of midcarders on Raw, but there are also plenty of heels as well. If Swagger is to turn face as you want him to, what can he possibly do to keep his push? Only thing that makes since is a United States Championship run. It won't hurt him. It will have him wrestling matches that won't consist of the people that should be calling the match.

Swagger will need something after this Cole fiasco, or he will get buried again.

 

[rko91]

I agree with what a lot of people have posted thus far. Jack Swagger being US Champion would fit his gimmick so perfectly...I've actually really enjoyed him getting involved in the Cole/Lawler/Ross feud but once that's done with I could totally see Swagger beating Kofi for the title and having Cole as his manager (if WWE decides to take him out of the commentary booth, which I really hope they do). I think Jack Swagger reminds a lot of people of Kurt Angle in his early days, and I find it especially ironic that Swagger, just like Angle did in his WWE days, uses the ankle lock as his submission. WWE needs to give Swagger a bigger push than the one he's getting right now. He has the cockyness, the attitude, and definetely the in ring skills. He is the complete package and it seems to me WWE saw that when they gave him his WHC run earlier last year, so I say give him the US title and onwards from there.

 

[Joshua]

You mean Michael Cole is over.




Because it's Cole's heat.



I respect that you have a different opinion on the subject than I do. But your post was about how it would be a step down if the former World Champion captured the US Championship. Sheamus was over a helluva lot more than Swagger, a two-time WWE Champion no less, and he was champion before Kingston. Are you saying a one time World Champion is more over than a two time WWE Champion? I can't see that. Swagger was in a rut in his career before turning into a henchman for a broadcast journalist. His career was going absolutely nowhere, because right after capturing the World title what was he doing? Jobbing, like he was doing right before that.

Yes, there are plenty of midcarders on Raw, but there are also plenty of heels as well. If Swagger is to turn face as you want him to, what can he possibly do to keep his push? Only thing that makes since is a United States Championship run. It won't hurt him. It will have him wrestling matches that won't consist of the people that should be calling the match.

Swagger will need something after this Cole fiasco, or he will get buried again.

I doesn't matter how Swagger got over, all that matters is that he is in fact over whether it be because of Cole or not.

Sheamus was thrown into the US Title picture because he didn't have an angle on Raw anyone (as you can see now getting drafted to SD!). His character was getting stale on Raw thats why he had a short midcard title reign because Vince knows what he has with Sheamus and didn't wanna let him sit on the back burner.

I guess all I'm trying to say is everyone hates this angle with Swagger and the commentating team. You don't think Sheamus would rather be in Swaggers shoes right now? Rather than having a short midcard title run then getting shipped to SD!. Whether people like it or not this angle has gotten Swagger very over as a heel.

I understand this angle isn't what the pure wrestling fans out there wanna see but truth is that its working. And working well none the less.

 

[GW_Hart86]

Jack Swagger has been a victim and a perfect example of a guy that was pushed to the top far too quickly. He has so much talent and so much potential, so a shot at the US Title would be great. I'd like to see him face Kofi Kingston at Over the Limit and win the title. These two showed this past week on RAW ow good a match they can put, was one of the best matches of the night.

After Over the Limit, I'd love to see Jack Swagger then feud with someone like Daniel Bryan for the US Title. These two would put on such a great show in my opinion, giving us a really old school, technical match. They are the best type of matches.

 

[Wade's Public Transit Bomb]

Maybe Swaggie just wasn't meant to be a main event player? I know a lot of people use that "too much too soon" as a reason they failed, but guys like Sheamus and Wade proved that if you have the charisma the crowd notices and can handle the pressure, you will find some success in the Raw main event scene.

Honestly, I think at this point, the U.S. Title might not be good for Swaggie right now. Look at his role: Cole's lackey. He is at least promised some air time on Raw when Kofi isn't. He at least will make it to a PPV, when Kofi seems to be floating around into nothing. Titles may have prestige or whatever, but who cares who the holder is if they are MIA.

 

[davidimondi]

Lets hope that after Over The Limit, The King has defeated Michael Cole and Cole has to take some time off due to the beating that he suffered. We get JR back with King and Josh Matthews and then Swagger can start fresh. I'd have him come out and say I've been distracted over the past couple of months. My focus has been on a childish fight between announcers when I should've been worrying about the All-American American Jack Swagger the whole time. Then have him go on a rant about how he is the All-American American and how he's dissapointed and shocked that he hasn't been or isn't the United States Champion because there is nobody else who should be holding that belt and have him make it clear that getting that belt and holding onto it is his mission going forward and nobody will deter him because he is The All-American American.

 

[Reddog1146]

It would fit his gimmick perfectly but the problem is that he is still in the Cole/Lawler angle and he cant do much until it is over.

 

[El Rev sXe]

Since he left ECW, I thought he has the perfect gimmick to be the US champ, and honestly I think being a mid card champion will do wonders for his career. However, ot yet, remember he is in all this Cole shit. At least this way he can be over with the crowd. After this whole thing with Jerry Lawler is over I think that Swagger could make it with Cole eing his full time manager.