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Is There Any TRUE Reason To Dislike John Cena?

Short answer HELL No.

Now believe me I get sick of the Super-Cena gimmick as much as the next guy but there really isn't a reason to hate a guy who A) Works his tail off in and out of the ring B) Can be quite entertaining at times C) Is not a screw up and uphold himself and the company better than anyone I've ever seen D) Honestly Cena seems like he would be a pretty cool guy in real life as well.

I understand Cena is basically a new age Hulk Hogan but that is not Cena's fault at all, its the people booking him. Wrestling this day isn't as organic as it used to be as in things are a lot more scripted. Everything you see Cena do he was told to do, can you really fault a guy doing his job great?

Cena has proven he can put on a great match (MITB and his match with Michaels 8 days after WM23 are 2 examples), is rock solid on the mic, is OVER (whether he is getting cheered or booed it doesn't matter) and he knows how to carry himself in all facets whether its in front of the camera, behind the camera or in real life.

Sure I get bored with Cena but its because the WWE is telling him to do something that was shoved down my throat as a little kid (the Hogan bit). I liked it back then but now it just seems tedious and worn out but you can't fault Cena for that at all because its not his decision.

Personally there is no real reason to dislike Cena, he does his job and he does it well, I know we want something different but if that's the case blame Vince and the creative team not Cena.
 
Ok, I will have to watch the promo again. I liked that promo and the delivery.

And I am not saying Cena has to do a bunch of high flying moves but I think you can have a lot of them to have a great match. It just gets old whenever I see the shoulder block twice, backdrop, five knuckle shuffle, someone gets out of the FU and sometimes STF.

Cena does put on good matches but there are guys I would much rather see. The contradiction I am talking about is that if people say Cena sucks in the ring, people defend it by saying that he's limited. If somebody ELSE is bad in the ring, it seems to be THEIR fault. That's what I am getting here with what I have read with the IWC.

The promos- again. He can cut lame promos but some have defended saying he is watered down because he is PG. Whenever somebody else cuts a bad promo, it's their fault.

John Cena the guy seems awesome but most of the time the John Cena I see on TV is NOT AWESOME. I don't hate on him because it is cool to. I just don't like what I see 95% of the time from the guy.

And if John Cena turns heel, maybe I'll like him. Maybe I won't. He doesn't necessarily have to turn heel. I just wish he would evolve his character a tad bit more.
The thing is, Cena ISN'T bad in the ring. He does more with 5 moves than most guys do with 50. So anyone who is defending him is defendingh im in a wrong way and whoever criticizes him is doing so because they don't know anything about wrestling and because it's cool to do so.

It's really sad the people that still hate him considering the trend is pretty much that he's very good and just fun to boo.
 
The person no. The character yes. Because it's all based on personal preference. As fans we have a right to cheer and boo who we want. Cena bores me to death cause he always do and say the same thing. I admit he has had a fair amount of good matches, but they're too spread out for me. However I'll never bash a cena fan cause one mans trash is another mans treasure. I am a huge rock fan. People knock him for saying he does the same catchphases over and over again. Guess what? I respect that opinion. Just because I'm a huge fan of the rock doesn't mean I expect everyone else to feel the same way. As a person don't know him or the rock so don't care.
 
I have no problems with John Cena.... just that I don't find him entertaining, and the WWE seems hell-bent on shoving him down your throat. People will hate on anything, so there are plenty of reasons to dislike him. What I will say on his behalf is that he seems to genuinely give it his best, and takes being the man seriously. I respect that, but at the same time I really don't think he's that good at what he does.
 
Straight up no. There is no real reason to dislike John Cena. He CAN wrestle. He has defeated many of the great wrestlers! This guy is McMahon's hot commodity! Everyone has to hate on someone, so enough said there. But here is my honest opinion: without John Cena on Monday Night Raw, the ratings would drop tremendously and the show would not be worth watching. As a CenaFan, I definitely would quit watching! Cena doesn't limit himself on just 5 moves. He has done a few new ones, but whether or not he limits himself to a few moves does not warrant hating him. Rick Flair only had the Figure Four! I used to hate Rick Flair! It seemed he couldn't wrestle without the help of the other 3 Horsemen in his group. But enough said there, there is still no reason to hate Cena!
 
No disrespect cenagurl but losing cena wouldn't be the death of raw. This is the same company that replaced stars the calibur of hogan, austin, rock, hbk, hart,warrior, and savage. The machine will make another star after cena. As for flair, he's on of the best technical wrestlers of all-time-if not the greatest. Saying he only knows the figure four and saying cena is a great wrestler is insane. Cena should never be compared to flair wrestling wise. It's cool your backing your guy, but no need to tear a legend like flair down. As far as being vince's hot commodity and defeating many stars, remember warrior did to so that doesn't neccessarily mean he's a great wrestler. Cena to me is an average wrestler who does put on really good matches once in a while. But he isn't irreplaceable. Could take a while but vince will give a wrestler the ball and they'll run with it.
 
Because it's all based on personal preference.

That's really all she wrote folks. How we perceive John Cena is going to be completely arbitrary.

As for myself he's not as bad in the ring as people make him out to be (not the best by a longshot, but not terrible), but his persona is just boring, bland, lame, and repetitive. If he'd shake things up I'd like him a lot better.

No disrespect cenagurl but losing cena wouldn't be the death of raw.

Agreed. This isn't 2007 anymore. It would be bad for a while, but they'd make the transition. The line is becoming filled when there was a big gap IMO a few years ago.
 
It depends, select matches aside (like against Punk, he was on his game there), if you value kayfabe or not really. If you're young enough that wrestling is still real (I miss those days) you like superheroes who can be dropped on their head on concrete yet still beat 2 guys within 2 minutes, and throws punches that make the Divas look tough (we'll ignore the No Pressure STF, that's just dreadful) and promos that, more often then not are childish beyond belief (even turning the serious stuff into "my mom caught me pooping on the pooty" type schtick) then, yeah, no reason to dislike him.

Personally I've learnt to tolerate him really. He's not going away and he's not going to change unless something drastic happens (a few 2.5's on the trot should do it "pretty please"?). However, like with Orton, I tend to prefer my wrestling despite Cena, not because of him.

Although I'm going to say that I'm really looking forward to the Mania 28 build up because, as we saw this year, someone like Rock ragging on Cena seems to bring the best out in him.
 
No disrespect cenagurl but losing cena wouldn't be the death of raw. This is the same company that replaced stars the calibur of hogan, austin, rock, hbk, hart,warrior, and savage. The machine will make another star after cena.

Think about this though. When the WWE lost each of those guys, they already were building someone else to be the face of the company. The only time they really suffered was during Diesel's title run, but they had Hart and HBK there to make the save. If Cena were to up and leave tomorrow, who would be able to fill that void on RAW? No one else can connect with his fanbase the way he does. Not even Rey. At this moment, the WWE, and especially RAW, needs Cena WAY more than Cena needs them.
 
I don't like his character. That's the only reason I have and the only one I need. I don't know John Cena to hate him. He's corny, cheesy and makes me groan. As a person, I've never met him, probably never will. Has nothing to do with John Cena Jr. the person. I don't like his character and until either he changes or I change my mind, I see that staying the case.
 
Everyone has there reasons to like or dislike Cena. Nothing you can really change or convert because everyone sees him a different way. I for one like Cena the man, AND Cena the character. I've had the pleasure of meeting the man and he's more of a real person than some other wrestlers I've met before. As far as his character goes, he wins the right way, he's agressive, and he never gives up. HMMM Let's BOO him immediately!! Movesets aren't really that impressive to me. I'm almost certain most of the wrestlers on the roster can pull off each others moves. It's the delivery and timing that are important, and he has great timing. He puts on great matches and he sells out arenas all over the world.
 
Is there ever a True Reason to dislike someone?

Pro Wrestling (like most everything) is opinion based. I could give you 10 reasons why I like John Cena and the next Person could give you 10 reasons why the can not stand him and we would both be right.

I'm a 23 year old male and John Cena is one of my favorites and has been for years and I'm not ashamed to admit it. I also know that people are allowed to like and dislike whoever they want regardless of the reason and whether I think those reasons are 'good' or not.

People think I'm insane for not liking Orton, but I do and I always seem to get "What the F is wrong with you?" type responses. I think he's cocky, arrogant, loses it in the ring when angry and terrible on the mic.

I like Cena. It's hard for me to truly hate a wrestler like a lot of other people do. He's a hard worker and is a good role model for the kids, which is what he is supposed to be. Is he corny? Yeah, but so what? I'm corny sometimes.

People would love for him to go back to his thug life character or turn heel, but it's not going to happen.
 
It seems as if the "Cena Sucks" chant came about when The Rock made his short lived return and they had their war of words. Everybody hopped on the bandwagon and are disliking Cena because of reasons ......
1. He plays to the younger crowd too much.
2. Five Moves Of Doom
3. Always has the title.
4. Supposedly undeserved face of WWE
5. He can't wrestle.
Its amazing how the WWE can change somebody from being liked to disliked or vice versa.Look at CM Punk or Randy Orton for example. Its all part of keeping the viewing audience entertained . I liked Cena more when he first came to the WWE and i still like him to this day. The guy does alot for the fans and kids which is cool because alot of famous athletes dont give two shits about their fanbase.
 
Well, he's good on the mic even though he's alot better when he's serious and not corny.

But..

There's one single reason to hate him for me.
He fails to deliver in-ring. WWE Superstars in the back talk about how the match is gonna' go like, and Cena's matches are the same old bullcrap. Get beat up for 15 minutes, win in 1. I hate him because, it's not only Vince and WWE Staff who decide how the matches are going to go like, the WWE Superstars have a word in it too, and Cena being the main face of the WWE right now should do that. He should have more matches like he did with CM Punk at MITB.
 
I got really sick of HHH in 2002-'04 when he held the title for so long with the exact same annoying, stale character.

The Rock was sloppy. I never enjoyed a Rock match unless he was wrestling a much better wrestler. Example: His passable spinebuster evolved into a sloppy throw.

Mix those, add annoying promos that often mention bodily fluids, and you have John Cena. I respect his work ethic, physique, and dedication, but I can't stand watching him wrestle. As this is pro wrestling and not bodybuilding, I think I have a valid reason for not liking him.
 
The fact that all those people who hide under their computers bash Cena cause he "can't wrestle" makes me sick, if they don't think he's not the best wrestler then they have the right to express it, but when some people go too far and they forget that they can't do any better than him and that they're hiding behind their computers is just sad, I agree about Cena not being the best wrestler, but he can really work a match despite him having only 5 moves, his match with Punk was a 5 star match, do some people honestly believe that Punk was the only reason that match was so awesome? No, the story telling Cena did in that match with Punk was great, and that's exactly why I respect him, he busts his ass everyday and for what? You can't wrestle chants? Give me a break, the only people who deserve that are celebrities who actually "wrestled" some matches and got in the ring.. people like Snooki, David Arquette, Mike Tyson, Seth Green.. even guys like Hornswoggle deserve that chant.. but a man who busts his ass and works pretty good matches like John Cena, you might not like his character, or the fact that his audience are little kids, but you gotta respect him.
 
I'm not Cenas biggest fan, far from it, purely because of his character. It hasn't even been slightly tweaked in how long? It gets tedious after a short while.

But on the other hand, he's given his all week in week out for the business and you have to respect that. He also makes money for WWE, so that is another reason I can bear him.
 
The fact that all those people who hide under their computers bash Cena cause he "can't wrestle" makes me sick, if they don't think he's not the best wrestler then they have the right to express it, but when some people go too far and they forget that they can't do any better than him and that they're hiding behind their computers is just sad, I agree about Cena not being the best wrestler, but he can really work a match despite him having only 5 moves, his match with Punk was a 5 star match, do some people honestly believe that Punk was the only reason that match was so awesome? No, the story telling Cena did in that match with Punk was great, and that's exactly why I respect him, he busts his ass everyday and for what? You can't wrestle chants? Give me a break, the only people who deserve that are celebrities who actually "wrestled" some matches and got in the ring.. people like Snooki, David Arquette, Mike Tyson, Seth Green.. even guys like Hornswoggle deserve that chant.. but a man who busts his ass and works pretty good matches like John Cena, you might not like his character, or the fact that his audience are little kids, but you gotta respect him.

See this is where I have a problem though. I didnt tell John Cena to go out there and wrestle while injured or bust his butt doing appearances for the WWE, so I dont really feel the need to respect him for that. Hes done it, and so have many other guys in the business. All the sudden its not cool to hate on Cena but if hes getting his ass kissed for dedicating his time 24/7 to the WWE then wheres The Miz's respect? Miz has been doing the same thing Cena did in the past and hes hated on all the time. People who pay for a good show and are forced to see someone whos character has gotten progressively stale over the years have every right to boo Cena whenever they want. Hes not up to par with the rest of the roster moveset wise so they have a right to call him on that too. I highly doubt it bothers him when they do that, and if it doesnt bother him then why should it bother his fans.
 
While I'm not a John Cena fan, I can't help but have mad respect for the guy. He has dedicated his entire life to the business and definitely gives it his all. He takes it serious and truly loves the sport.

Sure, he isn't Shawn Michaels or Bryan Danielson in the ring, but his efforts deserve to be recognized. As most everyone has noticed, his match with CM Punk at Money in the Bank was far from terrible, granted CM Punk was working with him, it was still really good.

Again, I'm not a huge Cena fan and I would like to see the limelight be taken off of him in the E for awhile, but people give him alot of gruff without recognizing his positives.
 
See this is where I have a problem though. I didnt tell John Cena to go out there and wrestle while injured or bust his butt doing appearances for the WWE, so I dont really feel the need to respect him for that. Hes done it, and so have many other guys in the business. All the sudden its not cool to hate on Cena but if hes getting his ass kissed for dedicating his time 24/7 to the WWE then wheres The Miz's respect? Miz has been doing the same thing Cena did in the past and hes hated on all the time. People who pay for a good show and are forced to see someone whos character has gotten progressively stale over the years have every right to boo Cena whenever they want. Hes not up to par with the rest of the roster moveset wise so they have a right to call him on that too. I highly doubt it bothers him when they do that, and if it doesnt bother him then why should it bother his fans.

The Miz being hated? Cena getting respect and Miz doesn't? I have yet to see an anti Miz group anywhere on the internet when it's filled with anti Cena groups.. now don't get me wrong I like The Miz.. he's come a long way.. but Cena deserves more respect when he doesn't get it, why? Because he's the face of the PG era.. because he "can't wrestle".. because he "sucks up to the kids".. I mean seriously some people watch John Cena and the current PG product of the WWE just so they can hate on it.. I can't tell you how many times I've seen "PG era sucks" comments on the internet.. I just don't get it, if they don't like it then why watch it? The WWE in the mid 90's were great and it was PG too back then.. but the attitude era and the previous TV-14 product just left a huge impact in the wrestling world.. and now that it's PG some people actually blame Cena for it, that's just sad in my opinion, yeah you didn't tell Cena to continue what he's doing.. but the fact is Cena does it cause he loves it and actually has passion, so why hate on the guy? Cena actually delivered a 5 star match with Punk.. you're telling me someone who can't wrestle had a 5 star match? Now I admit I'm not the biggest Cena fan, hell.. sometimes I couldn't give a rat's ass about some of his supposedly huge matches.. but I respect him, just like I respect The Miz and every other hard working wrestler who deserves some respect.
 
No real reason to dislike Cena the man one bit. Cena is a great guy and deserves the utmost respect as a humanitarian. He does more for others than "Brangelina" does that's for damned sure.

As a WWE Superstar, yeah, his gimmick is nothing like it could be. I don't like his gimmick anyways, even at it's edgy best when he was a heel, but right now it's very politically correct and mushy, which really makes it boring.

That said, he's doing what is in his long-term best interest, and that happens to be representing the WWE as a family friendly brand that is charitable and promotes a good community.

Just wait, sooner or later (probably years off still) he WILL turn heel, and like Hogan, the wrestling world will never be the same again.
 
I like Cena. He gives this business everything he has. And then some. But, I do not like the direction his character has gone. It is such utter bs. I sometimes feel as though he could be put in a gauntlet match against the entire Raw roster, and they would actually allow him to win. What they have done with his character does not seem too far removed from that farfetched scenario. P.S. Orton is great on the mic, character-wise and in ring.
 
Think I already stated it, but I don't care for Cena. Your reasons for not liking him are your own, and anyone who tells you there is no reason for not liking him is dead wrong. Everyone is entitled to their opinion and it is a pointless argument. Its like trying to convince someone who hates vanilla ice cream that vanilla is great. Some people just don't like vanilla and never will no matter how hard you try to convince them.
 
It doesn't matter how fucking many reasons there are because it's all about opinion. I'm not his biggest fan mainly because he always ends up in the title picture somehow, I bet you he somehow weasels his way into the title match tonight.
 
The Miz being hated? Cena getting respect and Miz doesn't? I have yet to see an anti Miz group anywhere on the internet
And I've seen them all


now don't get me wrong I like The Miz.. he's come a long way.. but Cena deserves more respect when he doesn't get it, why? Because he's the face of the PG era.. because he "can't wrestle".. because he "sucks up to the kids"..
So because hes disliked by the fans and a marketing puppet I need to repect him?

I can't tell you how many times I've seen "PG era sucks" comments on the internet.. I just don't get it, if they don't like it then why watch it?
Thats the thing, the casual fan, the one that REALLY made Vince money, no longer watches WWE or watches it when something completely out of WWE's character like the CM Punk promo happens. The others who stick around end up reading spoilers so they know whether or not certain shows are going to be worth their time or watch PPVs online so they dont waste their money.

and now that it's PG some people actually blame Cena for it, that's just sad in my opinion, yeah you didn't tell Cena to continue what he's doing.. but the fact is Cena does it cause he loves it and actually has passion, so why hate on the guy?

Nobodys blaming Cena for PG, but hes the most PG character on the show, which is why so many people hate him. This new era of WWE fans are so bitchy, they need everything to be correct and fair, the old fans didnt give a damn who was making appearances for WWF. If a guy like Cena came around during the Attitude Era he simply wouldnt last, we know Bret Hart didnt and he was right up his alley with all the goody two shoes stuff.

Cena actually delivered a 5 star match with Punk.. you're telling me someone who can't wrestle had a 5 star match? Now I admit I'm not the biggest Cena fan, hell.. sometimes I couldn't give a rat's ass about some of his supposedly huge matches.. but I respect him, just like I respect The Miz and every other hard working wrestler who deserves some respect.
I think that when the IWC gets over Punk they'll be able to watch that match with retrospect and realize it wasnt as good as they think it was. I just saw Eddie Guerrero vs Chris Benoit for the US title, now that was a 5 star match. Great storytelling and a nice pace. Cena/Punk wasnt all that amazing. See, I start off with a general respect for every wrestler, but what they do in and outside the ring affects that. After I learned about all the backstage politics I lost respect for Cena as a man. After watching Cena go from a rapper to a cartoon come to life, I lost respect for the cartoon. If Cena has a problem with that I'm pretty sure he could go to creative and ask them to change his character.
 

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