Is John Cena the greatest professional troll today?
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Cena isn't trolling, Cena is making fans love him. The only people who don't like what he does are the ones who aren't going to like him no matter what he does. That's not trolling, that's on the fans.
Good point, except facts prove it is completely untrue. Check out my Ratings and Financial Information thread in the General Wrestling forum. What you'll see is that since Cena came along, the WWE has done very good business, much better than what they did in the few years between 2001/2002 and when Cena entered the main event.
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Uh, no he hasn't. Jericho has been trolling fans off and on through out his entire 22 yr. career.
You obviously didn't do as I suggested. Go look it up. What you'll find is that revenue, profit, merchandising all went up, and during down economic times, house show business stayed relatively stable. Combine that with the fact MANY things change how the ratings are decided (such as streaming, DVR, Internet results, etc.), and you'll see that your statement simply does not hold up in the face of facts.
I'm apathetic towards Cena. At this point, nothing surprises me out of him. Or really makes me react. I see him and it's just business as usual. It's hard to hate him when the reason he's on such a high perch in the first place is because the rest of the roster sucks.
I personally think you are just making excuses for your beloved company. WWE will always make money, through bad economic times or not. Viewership is down and that can only be attributed to talent that heads the WWE roster. I havent read your documentation (not really caring THAT much about the matter in all honesty) but do you have facts for viewership from DVR, that streaming and internet results reduce viewership? If not, then your opinion is no more correct than mine.
Making more money every year since Cena entered the main-event (minus the write-offs they had last year for their film division) is NOT making excuses, it's proving your statement erroneous.
But making MORE of it is not ensured. Nearly every sector of the economy has suffered since the collapse of financial institutions back in 07/08. Even entertainment sector has suffered...but not the WWE.
And the number of channels keeps going up. And when you have relatively the same number of people who are watching, but increase the number of channels they can watch, ratings will go down.
What an incredibly simplistic and naive way of looking at things.
Seriously, go read my documentation. What you'll find is that, with the exception of the summer of 2007, the WWE's ratings have been fairly consistent. Of course, the summer of 2007 was when Benoit murdered his family and committed suicide and then a couple of months later, a bunch of wrestlers were linked to steroids.
With the exception of 2007, the WWE has kept fairly consistent ratings, and the wrestling product has grown in amount of money created, even through economic hard times.
So you admit your ignorance to the facts, and yet still are taking a position that is completely false. I love it.
Uhh, yes. If even one person downloads a show the next day (and I know there are several on here who have/do), that person is not included the original ratings/buyrate, which is what the wrestling websites report.
That's a reduction in viewership.
Yes it is, because it's supported with facts and logic. Yours is based on deliberate and admitted ignorance.
So Cena should be given credit for the revenue he brings in for merch sales etc. but shouldnt be blamed at the loss of ratings?
That's just another excuse, that's just a pure guess more than anything. If people like wrestling, they'll continue to watch wrestling, even if it is poor at times. The number of channels has nothing to do with it. You are predicting people will stop watching the show, just because there are more channels? Come on man. If the product sucks, of course they are going to watch something else. And Cena reduces quality of product, in the eyes of the majority.
Yes, they have been consistently low ratings. Since Cena has been in the main event, like you said, they are recording ratings which rarely get over the 4 and consistently hover around the lower 3's. You say 2007 was a bad time, yet they pulled more ratings over 4 than anytime over the last year and half. Why is that? Using the term 'consistent ratings' is a massive copout. Ratings are on a steady decline and dropping every week.
Because it will be drivel that is written by a WWE person that will go to any lengths and manipulate facts that Cena is a ratings boosting, WWE talent.
Rightttt, so you have the 'facts' of a 'few people on this website' that CHOOSE to download the episode every week. So two people speak for the wrestling community on why the Internet and results are lowering ratings every week? I asked for hard number on your statement but you can't give them to me, as they dont exist. You can't pin the blame on the perception that people are DVR'ing and streaming every week. You are in no position to know the extent of how many people who do that. Just another excuse.
"Logic", I seem to have missed that.
Shat's banned and Sly already found someone else to play with.
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CZENA SUX!!!
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Xena was fantastic; shame I can't find all the box sets
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