Is John Cena the greatest professional troll today?

[Pera]

The fuck am I reading?

Stop derailing the thread please.

 

[The Talon]

Don't mind him, Pera. He can't open his mind to understand our passionate anal-lovemaking.

 

[Pera]

Some people these days. You just have to shake your head ay?

 

[ABMorales787]

Don't moan when mods infract you two for flooding and/or flaming.

 

[The Talon]

The only heads getting shaken are the tip of our penises.

 

[Pera]

Don't moan when mods infract you two for flooding and/or flaming.

They'll probably infract us because we enjoy each other's company. I knew the world would be like this when I opened up about my sexuality.

 

[ABMorales787]

Hilarious.

 

[Pera]

But back on topic, Cena is a terrible troll. Like, what type of human gets their kicks out of trolling 8 y.o's? Although he did troll the fuck out of Mickie James.

 

[BaconBits]

Good God this got weird.


John Cena would disapprove. Then he would go to Finish Line and cop some buttery new sneakers. And, since would be at the mall and what not, probably an Ornage Julius too.

 

[The Talon]

Cena trolls 40-year-old basement dwellers here that lose their shit by his mere existence, not 8-year-olds.

 

[JGlass]

John Cena is the best wrestler in the business... until Rey Mysterio rises again. Because he's Jesus.

 

[Slyfox696]

So Cena should be given credit for the revenue he brings in for merch sales etc. but shouldnt be blamed at the loss of ratings?

No, because as I already told you, ratings haven't really dropped during Cena's time on top, aside from the Benoit/steroid scandal fiasco. Again, if you had studied what I directed you to, you would know this.

That's just another excuse, that's just a pure guess more than anything.

No, that's common sense. The more channels you have, the more the viewership gets spread out.

If people like wrestling, they'll continue to watch wrestling, even if it is poor at times. The number of channels has nothing to do with it.

Of course it does, what an incredibly naive thing to say.

Let's pretend it's dark outside, and you're going to watch TV. You have only three options, ABC, NBC or CBS. You're only mildly interested in any of the three shows, but you're going to watch something anyways. Now compare that to if you have a choice of 500 channels, movie channels, sports channels, etc...are you still as likely to watch whatever is on CBS? Of course not. You'll find something which interests you more.

This is common sense.

You are predicting people will stop watching the show, just because there are more channels?

No, I'm saying they'll find something which interests them more. If I'm only 50% interested in some show that's on CBS, that still might be more interest than what's on ABC or NBC. But give me 500 channels, and I can find something which I have a larger interest in.

Stop clinging to your ignorant preconceived concepts and just apply a little common sense.

And Cena reduces quality of product, in the eyes of the majority.

Except for the fact Cena is easily the biggest draw in the company. So even if there WAS a drop in business, which the facts simply don't support, it wouldn't be the fault of the most popular wrestler, but rather the least popular wrestler.

Your entire logic is completely fucked up. That's like blaming your top salesman for the lack of sales in the department instead of blaming the other salesmen who have far fewer sales.

Yes, they have been consistently low ratings. Since Cena has been in the main event, like you said, they are recording ratings which rarely get over the 4 and consistently hover around the lower 3's.

Another incredibly naive statement.

The WWE almost always finishes in the Top 5 of cable ratings, many times they finish #1 (like they did last night, for example). How do you figure that's "low ratings"? Because they're not doing 5s like they did ten years ago, when Internet streaming, DVR, Internet results weren't around and there were 500 less channels?

You're being flat out ridiculous. The WWE's ratings are fine.

You say 2007 was a bad time, yet they pulled more ratings over 4 than anytime over the last year and half.

Yes...in the FIRST half of the year. After June 24th, when Chris Benoit committed his double murder-suicide, Raw didn't achieve a single rating over 4.

Are you even paying attention to what I'm saying? The first half of 2007 saw Raw average a 3.9 rating. After Benoit and the steroid scandal, they averaged a 3.3. Which is roughly where they've been ever since.

Source: http://www.gerweck.net/tv-ratings/2007-ratings/

Why is that? Using the term 'consistent ratings' is a massive copout. Ratings are on a steady decline and dropping every week.

You clearly have no idea what you are talking about.

Because it will be drivel that is written by a WWE person that will go to any lengths and manipulate facts that Cena is a ratings boosting, WWE talent.

What the fuck are you talking about? I'm providing you STATS, not analysis. I give you ratings and financial information. The ratings come from Nielsen and the financial information comes from the Corporate WWE site which MUST report accurate numbers since they are a publicly traded company.

You really don't have a clue what you're talking about, do you?

Rightttt, so you have the 'facts' of a 'few people on this website' that CHOOSE to download the episode every week.

No, the fact that ANYONE downloads a show instead of watching it proves it does decrease viewership. Which is what you asked for.

So two people speak for the wrestling community on why the Internet and results are lowering ratings every week?

Except ratings aren't lowering every week. They fluctuate based on various reasons, but they aren't lowering every week.

Why do you insist on saying such ignorant things?

I asked for hard number on your statement but you can't give them to me, as they dont exist. You can't pin the blame on the perception that people are DVR'ing and streaming every week. You are in no position to know the extent of how many people who do that. Just another excuse.

No, it's common sense. Something you are proving to lack.

"Logic", I seem to have missed that.

After seeing how you insist on remaining ignorant to facts, I can understand why you struggle with the logic.

 

[Dr. Mantis Toboggan, M.D.]

i don't like it when the word "troll" is used in such context. it reminds me of this kid from high school i always wanted to beat up

 

[Suibon]

I'm just gonna lurk and have a look around; if Sly's gonna destroy someone by his horde of facts, I'll have my front row seat plumped up and warm, especially as he's doing something I would've loved to do in my spare time and I'm loving every second Sly's doing Pera.

Lovin' it.


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