HHH Taking Over For Vince McMahon - KEEP IT ALL IN HERE!

[attackgypsy]

I am of the belief that this is Vince's retirement as a character on the show, and now he's going to work out of the office in Stamford. After all, its only about 10 minutes from his home. (I'm from the same area of Connecticut.)

I think he's earned it. Vince has reached the age where he shouldn't HAVE to travel as much. Most people at his age would be working on deciding where they're going to retire to.

 

[The_Reptile_]

Okay geniuses, how would you go about this whole CM Punk thing without making it obvious that he's resigned? Hm?

Oh wait, here's how.

"CM Punk has won our title, but is no longer under our employment. Therefore, we shall have a match/tournament/whatever to determing our no1contenders/Champion/whatever."

You know, THE EXACT SAME THING THAT FUCKING HAPPENED TONIGHT!

 

[HorsemenNo4]

Lately WWE has been playing to the IWC rumors and feelings (DB winning MITB, Del Rio getting a push, the whole CM Punk angle). I think WWE just pulled this from the rumors that surfaced around Wrestlemania, concerning how the writers had been questioning Vince's intentions as of late. They then threw in the whole "Triple H is going to take over any day now" attitude the IWC has had as of late and they wipped up this masterpiece. I dont know if Vince really gave Triple H the position of Chairman to further the storyline, but remember, EVERYTHING that happens on TV is scripted one way or another. If this was actually true then Triple H has some impeccable timing, showing up right before Cena gets fired.

I was about to write pretty much the same thing. Glad I read this before I repeated it.

WWE has been aiming at that internet fans or "10%'ers", whatever you want to call them the past month.

If Vince was truly stepping down, I'm sure it would have been done differently and word would have been leaked by the shareholders. WWE is scripted and they wouldn't put it on the show before they tell the investors, etc.

That said, enjoy the angle and let the 'Triple H Era begin!'

 

[Shawn]

Great storyline and great TV. But why does everyone keep saying that WWE is going to change or the landscape has changed or something like that. Vince is still in charge of everything including HHH. Sure he's not in storyline but in real life Vince owns like 70% of WWE and is in control of it all. He is still Chairman. Gosh, its just a storyline. Its like if i got on here after tonights match and said Miz and Riley hate each other when really they are just acting. Things are not going to change that much unless Vince wants them to. I'm not ranting on what WWE done because i think its Genius. But i dont know why everyone cant comprehend the difference between a storyline and a real thing. Anything that happens on WWE tv will still be ran by and approved by Vince McMahon.

 

[ForzaItalia]

This is exactly what the WWE needed. As you can see with Punk winning the title yesterday, Daniel Bryan winning MITB, and Triple H taking over the company in storyline, WWE is trying to win back it's older fans and in my opinion they are doing a great job at it. Punk said last week that WWE is never in media news unless someone dies, well this storyline has everyone talking right now and for the next week because of the great acting done by HHH and Vince. I think WWE has gotten a fresh start with this and I see only great things coming out of this.

Hopefully, this means Zack Ryder will get some RAW TV time now with HHH now in control (in storyline). WWWYKI

 

[The Naitchhh]

Fathers like me have kids getting older and quite frankly are sick of the SuperCenas...the Kofis.....the hornswaggles...etc

We are starting to cheer for the CM punks...the R Truths....etc..


The attitude era was hugely profitable when it crossed lines and appealed to the older crowd...the crowds were always huge...nowadays they fail to get 8k at some raw and smackdown shows...12 years ago they always maxed out whatever arena they were in.

Now the PG era is profitable because the kids by all the toys and dolls and cena t shirts..

Imagine this....WWE finds a way to appeal to both markets at the same time. It can be done and this is what i think the WWE is trying to do now.

See they have been PG the last 4-5 years or so and now these kids are 10 and 11 instead of 4 and 5.

They are growing up and getting edgier...they want a different product than just good guys vs bad guys.

Combine these wants for a more PG 13 product with the already PG audience(yes, i realize there are 5 years olds who watch now) and you have a monster product capable of huge profits that far outweight what they have ever seen.

oh..one can dream

Very Well Said. I agree 100% I'm happy to be a wrestling fan. The WWE Product has improved dramatically in a short time. HHH may be behind it all...and I'm sure he is.

Who ever it is has managed to entertain me week after week..and then make History at Mitb Wowing us all in disbelief...and Now Just one night later made me and Many other people ( AND DONT LIE!!!!) Shed a Tear on Raw seeing Vince out there with True Emotion leaving his Throne and passing the torch. Classic Stuff here...

And Really...why would CM Punk come back... You went out the best way possible..you WILL NEVER top that Result and that outcome... It was masterful it was...the whole dam thing was. Now all thats left is for the King of Kings to Take over the WWE and become the 14 time Champion and Ruler of All the WWE Universe. -_- Ill sure miss Punks theme Song though

 

[SecondCitySaint]

This is just my random thoughts on the whole situation.

Does anyone else think that Cena faces the winner of next weeks title match, and walks away with the belt? God I hope not, but that's what I think happens.

I hope the show opens with the RAW GM making an announcement, and HHH interrupting Cole and firing the GM.

If WWE really wants a pop, reinstate Jim Ross.

My final thought, CM Punk wont be gone for long.

I certainly don't want that to happen. I am thinking that the situation might come down to another 'undisputed champion' type incident. My personal thoughts are that it comes down to a 3-way for the belt, between Miz, Mysterio and Cena, and Cena wins - then Del Rio cashes in and beats him, setting up Summerslam, and Punk's return. I don't know.

I do have a totally different topic to discuss. When Cole was discussing Cena's tweet talking about being future endeavored, Cole was pointing to the blank sheet of paper taped to the announce table. The camera blatantly showed the paper had absolutely nothing written on it, yet Cole is sitting there scanning his finger along as if he is actually reading directly from it. Bullshit. Something else I've noticed with the anonymous GM, the camera seems to be zooming in from behind Cole in the audience. The "e-mail" always looks the same if you look closely. There have not been any real emails being sent to him. I, for one, believe the E is just keeping this going without actually knowing what they will do, or if they will even reveal a GM.

One last thing. If this is truly the end of Vince's active role in the company, and on tv, perhaps we will get to see a lot of the lesser knowns being featured more often, e.g. Drew McIntyre, Yoshi Tatsu, DH Smith, Zach Ryder. And I would really flip out if Bryan Danielson were to come around and be The American Dragon. I know I say that a lot, sorry. One can only hope, especially since he won MITB for SmackDown.

 

[amishpyrate]

I welcome HHH as the chairman for now or whatever they are doing.... people gotta realize tho, this is just storyline.... with HHH as chairman, behind the scenes things will still be the same, but I like the direction they are going for.... I also like how HHH is seen onscreen as Vince's son in law. I mean they did a story bout that years ago and I like a lil continuation of things every once in awhile. But The thing I've learned is that PG doesn't suck, the bland, unoriginal, predictable storylines sucked. PG can work, just gotta throw people off every once in awhile.... like they are doing now. Felt good to be excited for RAW once again

 

[wrestlingfan]

Fathers like me have kids getting older and quite frankly are sick of the SuperCenas...the Kofis.....the hornswaggles...etc

We are starting to cheer for the CM punks...the R Truths....etc..


The attitude era was hugely profitable when it crossed lines and appealed to the older crowd...the crowds were always huge...nowadays they fail to get 8k at some raw and smackdown shows...12 years ago they always maxed out whatever arena they were in.

Now the PG era is profitable because the kids by all the toys and dolls and cena t shirts..

Imagine this....WWE finds a way to appeal to both markets at the same time. It can be done and this is what i think the WWE is trying to do now.

See they have been PG the last 4-5 years or so and now these kids are 10 and 11 instead of 4 and 5.

They are growing up and getting edgier...they want a different product than just good guys vs bad guys.

Combine these wants for a more PG 13 product with the already PG audience(yes, i realize there are 5 years olds who watch now) and you have a monster product capable of huge profits that far outweight what they have ever seen.

oh..one can dream

But speaking in a WWE perspective, theirs still mostly a young audience 2011 currently. The problems with WWE is not PG, its booking and creativity. The Attitude Era is one of the prime reasons, we have the PG Era today, After the Attitude Era parents were complaining, sponsors were leaving, so WWE were left without a choice.

 

[CaptainZaltan]

This was just great T.V. Entertaining, well written, and well acted by everyone involved. I have to give a huge tip of my hat to Vince Mcmahon, John Cena, and HHH for an incredible job. And after years of attempts to incorporate 'reality' into pro-wrestling's storyline's (such as Vince Russo's "crash tv"), someone seems to have finally pulled it off (and I guess for the first time I can kind of see why they were attempting to do it in the first place).

I can give no higher compliment than this: for the first time in a very long time, I have no idea where the WWE is going, and I really am happier that way. I don't want to speculate on anything, I just want to be taken along for the ride. And so far, it's been an interesting one to say the least. Can't wait to see where they go from here

 

[brighamosity]

You guys are joking, right? If you think for a second that Vince was just fired in real life, then you probably also think that CM Punk is going to show up on Impact this Thursday with the belt.

Vince said like two weeks ago that he would continue in his position until death or unless forced. I'm not saying he couldn't ever get booted by the board of directors, but I doubt he'd want to put it on blast during an episode of Raw. I doubt that if he really left, that he'd even want it acknowledged on air. Also, I believe The McMahons own well over 50% of the company, so I'm sure that it would take a lot more than a meeting to remove him.

 

[DJZ888]

Such a good ending segment (something RAW isn`t unfamiliar with). Had me on the edge of my seat throughout. Cena`s promo was damn good and the TNA mention was nice.

I marked for Trips and was so eager to see what was gonna happen after he came out. I knew from the suit and the way he spoke that knew gonna take Vince`s spot as Chairman. The crying was a good addition and made the segment even better.

I can`t wait for RAW next week and WWE TV for the next couple of months. Trips as the "new boss", Cena`s reinstated, Punk and Vince are gone, Miz/Rey next week.

WWE has cranked out some of it`s best material and it appears they are gonna continue to and I couldn`t be happier.

 

[LuChava]

To quote Zack Ryder "Are you serious, bro?" I can't even believe anyone would credibly make the claim that WWE secretly owns ROH. ROH and Colt Cabana can be mentioned just as Hogan and Angle's names have been batted around the past couple weeks. The biggest change lately is that WWE on air is recognizing that other entities exist. They can do that and not secretly be twiddling their mustaches backstage for some convoluted agreement with ROH. That's just ludicrous!

I'm sure ECW die hards would have said the same thing back in the day, if rumors of WWE backing ECW would come out. As for Hogan and Angle being mentioned if I'm not mistake WWE has a legacy deal with Hogan and Angle's contract is coming up again with TNA. There was no reason for ROH to mentioned on WWE tv, none.

Never forget everything is a storyline, even the Punk "shoot". Hell, last nights ending was botched and I'll tell you why. CM Punk left through the crowd which was cool, but the camera guy waiting for him f'd it up. You don't plant a camera guy at the top of the stairs if you don't know where Punk is going is. Even worse they had another camera guy waiting at the concession stand to show Punk leaving the arena. Go back and watch it and you'll see the moment looses some of the effect.

 

[mrhexum]

I will point out that maybe this is the start of the BIGGER, BADDER and BETTER campaign that WWE was touting a few months ago. I have often wondered what in the world they meant by that. As I haven't seen anymore about it.



Mike

Bigger, Badder, Better is the slogan for the WWE '12 video game coming out.

And to answer the OP's question:

Of course it's kayfabe. "Is it real or fake?" Why would you even ask that when you know you are watching a scripted show. Yes, RAW is live and sometimes things happen. Right now WWE is working us fans in a way they haven't been able to in a long while. It is their job to make you think that, and they're pulling it off quite well. The more the line gets blurred, the more realistic it seems.

 

[SportsNation2K7]

I don't really post often but something in the back of my head is saying that this maybe real to a certain degree. I was on WWE chat when I found out the news that Vince was fired. Someone posted earlier that the WWE did sign a creative contract or something like that before WM27. So I went to the corporate site and I saw the price of the stock (9.85 as of 7/18/11). But if you search for the WWE stock you see that the 52 week high was 16.59. Now if you invested in a company wouldn't you want your money to go up and not down. Maybe the shareholders got angry and this is a start of a change.

 

[Degenerate88]

I'll be honest. Tonight is the first night in the LONGEST time that I got overly excited and it brought out the old fan in me. I've dreaded this PG Era and quite frankly I barely tuned in. At first I would read the SmackDown! spoilers because I couldn't be brought to watch the show. And then RAW started turning to a read instead of a watch, but now. God damn! This last month i've been hooked to watch it every Monday. Tonight's closing was unreal. When Triple H's music hit I got goosebumps. And the way it was done made you really feel sorry for Vince. I honestly did. Now I even want to tune into SmackDown! to see if this changes the entire WWE Universe. Definitely can NOT wait for next week's RAW.

In short form, you can say I marked the fuck out. I'm even currently watching the replay of RAW.

 

[Hulk Hogan's Brother]

Good, intriguing end to Raw but I won't say that it was a great ending unless and until I see what exactly this transpires into. For now, apart from the retirement of an epic character in Mr McMahon( are we sure about that too?), this means that Cena would not be fired from the WWE.

There are basically two ways in which this angle could go now. The first one could be that the Mr McMahon character has been retired for good and that Triple H will take up a similar role and the focus will be on the title situation and Cena/ Punk. The other way this angle can go is for Vince to pull a Paul Heyman and maybe try to wrest the power back from HHH by forming a self financed stable to take over WWE with maybe Punk as leader. That could be a decent angle but I'd rather go with the first option here because, as I have said earlier, this needs to be about Cena vs Punk more than WWE vs Vince or ROH or whatever. Cena vs Punk is a feud that could define a generation just like Rock vs Austin did and it would be a lot better than these corporate battle type feuds that we have seen quite often and where there can be only one winner.

It would be interesting to see what type of a role HHH takes from here on. Will he be a face or will he be a heel? What will his stance be towards Punk? What does Cena do now that he has not been fired? Raw has posed more questions than it has answered and that is exactly the way that it should be.

 

[bigtrav01]

I don't know if this is the beginning of a new era like a lot of people have said, but I do think it will make WWE TV a lot more interesting. It seems that the best thing to happen to WWE in years was this Punk worked shoot. A lot of great things have come from that. They managed to segway that into the "firing" of Vince and the "hiring" of HHH as the chairman of the WWE. I think a lot of good could come from this, and I think it could change WWE if done right. We just have to hope that WWE doesn't screw this up, and they haven't the last few weeks so I have faith in them right now.

 

[Moose]

I've seen alot of people saying how things aren't going to change behind the scenes, it's all storyline, etc. I get all of that, all great points. But I think that change IS coming, and it will be drastic. Regardless of who's running things in the back, making a change at the storyline level tells the fan/viewer "Hey, we have a new boss. You could be looking at a whole new company right away". I remember reading on this site, right after Edge had to leave, that creative was scrambling. This was why the draft came in so early, and why Vince and the writers were supposedly so flustered. They're making things happen, but the ratings are moving up as quick as they want. So, they just hit a great big reset button, and they can rework everything laser quick.

Who knows? I think I can safely say that none of us knows where this leads, and that really makes it fun either way.

 

[TM Punk]

I think Vince has a stake in ownership in ROH in real life. Much like he did in ECW when they needed money Vince would lend Heyman money but nobody knew about it. ROH and Colt Cabana do not get mentioned if there isn't an agreement in place. Just look at the similarities between ECW and ROH as it relates to TV deals and being mentioned on WWE tv. Vince will be on ROH sooner rather than later and in essence create his own rival for WWE. CM Punk will also coinsidently return to ROH.


The WWE dropped the ball when they acquired WCW and have learned from this, the WWE needs competition is order to create controversy and interest.

At no point during your ramblings on, did you even come close to what could be considered a rational thought. We are all now dumber for having read it. I award you no rep points, and may god have mercy on your soul.

Going into tonight I had no clue how they could live up to last nigh. And then we get this? Wow. I've wanted this to happen for at least a year now, or whenever it became apparent that hhh wasn't really interested in wrestling full time anymore.

Personally, what I hope this leads to is CM Punk holding the WWE championship randsom and HHH calling him out saying that he is going to do what john cena couldn't.

CM Punk vs HHH at summerslam LET'S DO THIS!!!

That's just what I want to see. It makes absolutly no sense because HHH is in charge now, but it would be awesome.
And can we please get anyone who calls this the pg era banned from the forums please? Just saying.

 

[sTyLnK]

The reality is Triple H and his wife will be taking over the company one day. While Vince will obviously still call the shots, it's a neat angle to what will be happening for real one day.

 

[Cracka Jack]

That was actually a very good way to end Raw (which I thought was a pretty great episode as well). This opens up so many new possibilities for storylines from here. Will Vince fight to regain control of his company? Will the Raw GM be revealed or dismissed without any more thought? How will Triple H handle business as the new head-honcho?

It did actually feel like a final goodbye to the Mr. McMahon character. Remember, he's tried to kill off his character before (the limo explosion) so he may have decided that now was the time to truly end it. Of course, he could just show up next week and prove that theory wrong, but at least it could be true.

This leaves me wondering just how CM Punk will be brought back in, and when. They can't wait too long or his heat may have lessened by then, but rushing him back wouldn't feel quite right. I'd love to see some kind of cross-company deal with ROH, but I doubt they'd go through with that. If I were to guess, I'd say sometime within the month, Triple H announces he's resigned Punk and we have a title unification match with whoever's champ by then. That'd be pretty good.

 

[TCBT]

I have no idea what fire has been lit underneath whose ass, but man, WWE programming has rarely been this good. It goes to show that you don't need to title an "era" as PG or Attitude. It's the ever-evolving world of the WWE. And right now we're NOT seeing the beginning of a new era, but rather the beginning of better writing and MUCH better storytelling.

I think the WWE needed this for a long time. You don't need Shawn Michaels, Stone Cold, The Rock, and The Undertaker to make for compelling TV. It's all about the story, and what the Superstars do with that story. CM Punk turned the WWE upside down with his promo, and that has kick started the best storyline I've ever seen in the WWE. And I've been a fan for well over 20 years...

I hope the TNA writers are taking notes! We've seen the similar stuff (quote-unquote shoot promos, the boss being fired, threats to jump organizations) from both companies recently and NOTHING has come remotely close to how compelling and meaningful the last few weeks of WWE TV (especially RAW) have been. I'm hooked!

 

[Brahma Bull]

Awesome ending to raw. I felt it would be a big night, and it really delivered. HHH being back is great, and even though he has taken over, i hope he steps in the ring again, i miss the guy, lol. There will be some type of struggle, and i think that it will end up with vince trying to take the company that betrayed him down. And dont ask me why, but i feel that the rock vs cena will end the power struggle some how.

 

[Freddy4190]

Just when you think the WWE has finally pleased the IWC..

I didn't expect much out of Raw tonight, what with CM Punk being in Chicago and all. I literally yelled "WOO!" and fell off my couch when I heard Trips theme hit. I saw him walking down in a suit. serious business. As soon as he said there was a meeting with the board I told my friend that Vince was getting fired, and low and behold if I wasn't right. That's an incredible way to switch up the landscape of the WWE! Be realistic now, Vince has made some pretty shitty decisions in the past few months. This has massive amounts of potential. Triple H could change everything. Change the belt, change the show. Obviously, he won't. This gets people thinking though! What I want most out of this though is for Trips to "re-negotiate" with CM Punk and get him to come back. I think that's whats gonna happen eventually. This also may very well be a way to slowly creep Triple H into that position forreal. Everyone knows it's gonna happen sooner then later. Why not do it this way? Word is Triple H is his senior advisor job is going very smoothly. I'm not complaining AT ALL! This makes for great WWE TV. I'm already pumped for WWE Raw next week. I can't believe everyone is throwing such a fit over this though. WWE is putting out some good shit.