HHH Taking Over For Vince McMahon - KEEP IT ALL IN HERE!

[TWJC: The Beginning]

Didn't read any of this thread, probably never will. Just felt like putting my thoughts out there.

To start, I'm going to come clean and say that I thought the closing segment on Raw became laughable with Triple H acting the way he did. Cena's promo was off the fucking hook, Vince acted his part beautifully, but then Hunter cam out and I literally laughed when he acted all heartbroken about having to cut Vince loose. I totally kept expecting some kind of "Suck It!!" to come out of his mouth but it never did. It was just very odd, to say the least.

Now having said that, despite the bad acting I can honestly say that during the past month I have never been so emotionally invested in angle. I'm becoming more and more impatient as the weeks go by as I really want to see Raw each week more than ever. Triple H as an authority figure is an interesting idea, and I suspect that he'll be responsible for Punk coming back in some capacitty. I'm really interested to see how he's going to be interjected into this angle, just as I'm curious what the fate of Vince will be. Will he and Punk ultimately combine their efforts and try to topple the WWE? Who knows? All I know is Summerslam is going to rule, and this summer has been and will be awesome.

I'm pretty sure the emotions were geniune. Vince's seemed that way and Hunter seemed to be trying not to cry. I bought it, my gf bought it, the live audience bought it.

I'm glad you're interested. I'm glad you had a mostly positive post. I can't stand how many people thought the wrestling on Raw was subpar, it's fucking raw, it's after a tv show, and it was first and semi final matches, they aren't going to have a MOTY, but all matches were serviceable.

People on here, I truly believe, are afraid to admit they like something because it's not cool to like Raw. It's starting to change and I like the positive vibes. You can really tell WWE is trying hard for this (like they always do).

 

[Nate DaMac]

I'm pretty sure the emotions were geniune. Vince's seemed that way and Hunter seemed to be trying not to cry. I bought it, my gf bought it, the live audience bought it.

There was nothing at all wrong with the substance of the promo, But seeing Triple H as a sympathetic figure is something really odd to me. They tried to make it look real and hey, I commend them for that. But I think it just looked very out of place for fucking Triple H to be like that.

I'm glad you're interested. I'm glad you had a mostly positive post. I can't stand how many people thought the wrestling on Raw was subpar, it's fucking raw, it's after a tv show, and it was first and semi final matches, they aren't going to have a MOTY, but all matches were serviceable.

I honestly had no issues with Raw. Everyone was bitching incessantly but not I. The only thing that was wrong with it for me was me. I didn't care about the tournament because well, I fucking hate one night tournaments. That and I just wanted to see what was going to happen with Punk/Vince/Cena. But after the first couple of sub par matches, I was really starting to get into them. That last match with Truth and Rey was pretty awesome.

People on here, I truly believe, are afraid to admit they like something because it's not cool to like Raw. It's starting to change and I like the positive vibes. You can really tell WWE is trying hard for this (like they always do).

Well when you're trying to have a decent conversation with a forum overloaded with children or ROH marks who think doing a million moves in a match is what makes it good, it's hard to find people who have a clue. I always enjoy Raw. Admittedly, some more than others, but these past 3 or 4 weeks have been totally off the hook. And with Triple H at the helm for the foreseeable future, I can only see it getting better.

 

[streicher187]

I don't know if it's been mentioned (a lot here to read)..

What if vince put money into Ring of Honor or TNA, at their next PPV (if ROH has them) Vince music hits and he comes walking out saying that wrestling is in his blood and if the WWE doesn't want him he found someone who does then he intros Punk with the WWE title.

It's a dream, as I stated before Vince looks like he is no longer keeping himself in shape (or he's sick) and I think he is really stepping away from tv time. He will still be in charge but think that is the end of Vince on TV.

If that is the case then it would be sweet if HHH

Named Xpac or Nash as GM (but have a feeling it will be his wife)
Brought JR back to tv (at least for the PPV)
"rehired" CM punk and the match monday is for the #1 contender..

Would you people STOP! Vince McMahon is NOT leaving WWE! Not in any way, shape, or form! Let me guess, all of you that have typed "Don't know if it's real or not" or "I think Vince is really stepping away" are the same people that thought Vince was REALLY dead when his limo exploded, right? And you thought The Rock was really in that ambulance when Hogan and the NWO drove that rig into it, right? You guys think Hogan really pushed The Giant off the top of that building too, right?

Vince has left for months and months before......does the term GM mean anything? HHH being the spokesperson for the "Board Of Directors" is another way of saying Mick Foley was the spokesperson for "The Network" in TNA!

IT'S A FREAKIN STORYLINE!!!!!

WWE is a publicly traded company, which means if any of that final segment on RAW was true, it would have been reported to ALL THE SHAREHOLDERS! It would have been blasted on CNN, MSNBC, Fox News and EVERY OTHER news outlet in the world! Guess what, not one mention of a publicly traded billion dollar company relieving it's Chairman & CEO of his duties! The WWE stock would have plummeted to being worth less than toilet paper!

If one more person types "I think it's real" then you are a bigger idiot than the previous 80 or so! Thank god there are about 20% of posters on here that actually have a degree in common sense!

HE doesn't have to step away from the WWE to be off of tv, I think Vince Mcmahon the TV character is gone which they wouldn't have to report to anyone since it's a story. He will be in charge of WWE until the day he dies

 

[Dan E. Inferno]

I think the last time I was so hooked on RAW was the early days of the Nexus this time last year. I'm sure a lot of people expected HHH to take an authority role on TV eventually, but I didn't expect it this soon or in this fashion. First of all, I'm fully confident that HHH can pull off being in charge. His character has always had that sense of authority to it anyway. Secondly, I'm betting this isn't the last we've seen of Vince. He may stay off TV for a while to sell his being relieved of his duties, but I'm not convinced he's just going to take a back seat in this storyline. It actually wouldn't surprise me if he showed up next week. I don't mean that as a bad thing btw, because Vince with a mic always gets my attention. Finally, I'm really excited to see where this is going. HHH could challenge Punk to bring the title back to RAW, or Vince and HHH could engage in a power struggle with Punk and Cena by their sides. I'm not sure where this leads but I'm certainly looking forward to seeing what unfolds.

 

[yoshi_doce2006]

I really think Vince is stepping down as an ON AIR PERSONALITY and is going to be working strictly at Titan Towers. Vince is 66 Years Old next week, he has been in the business for 50 years, the traveling and everything is probably getting to him and this is a perfect way to get rid of Mr. McMahon as a character and let him work behind a desk and from home.

Personally I think this is good for Triple H, Good for Vince, Good for the business. I think the emotion is real, that Vince was taking a back seat for the first time since his father died, and will be healthier with a desk job heading the Board of Directors.

 

[shitsngiggles]

I think this could be pretty much spot on. When I saw Vince and the emotion on his face as they went off air it looked legitimate. Not that he was actually being fired, but like said above, that he was stepping out of the limelight he has been in for decades. That would be a pretty big deal to him.

Like others have repeatedly said, Vince obviously is still in charge of the corporate entity known as WWE, but HHH is now in charge on screen. No different than than GMs of the shows. They are the on-screen power, but everything is obviously controlled by Vince behind the scenes.

This will be the same thing. HHH will likely be on air a lot over the next few weeks, and I wouldn't be shocked if a full-time GM is put in place aound SummerSlam.

Either way, as others have said throughout this thread; this is the most exciting WWE has been in years because for once you don't really know where it is heading. It brings me back to when I was a kid watching and thought it was all real. You simply turned in the next time to see what was going to happen, and didn't spend the 6 days between shows trying to predict everything.

Definately!

The only thing I think might happen is, Vince will get bored and ask to be written back into the show. Or they may need him for a few promos for a story line or whatever.

But just looking back over the last 2/3 years at how little airtime he has seen this makes perfect sense to me that although the CEO angle is ofcourse fake. That it was indeed the end of Vinny Mac on TV.

And you are right 100% that this is getting much more interesting!
For the first time in literally YEARS I am counting down being able to watch the next episode.

 

[rge2010]

I cant believe people are buying into this 'Vince is gone so Triple H is taking over'. Yes, in terms of storylines it is the real deal but lets not kid ourselves, Vinny Mac will still have all the power backstage. I dont care what X-box or Ice Pick whatever that Jabroni says on his twitter.

Every year Vince gets written off TV and 'steps down' from his role. Killed in 2007, the stage fell on him in 2008, 2009 Trump bought WWE off him, 2010 he was put in a Coma. Its the same old thing every year.

Also, WWE is about to have its biggest match of all time next year at Wrestlemania. You really think Vince is going to let the rookie Trips assume all control leading into that? Not a chance.

 

[Dagger Dias]

I am so glad that Trips is now going to be the onscreen authority figure instead of Vince. This is good because having someone new in that role always helps things stay interesting. Vince is too old and his Mr McMahon character stuck around for too long. I hope that Trips as an onscreen authrity figure eventually leads to him taking over in real life. Things have improved a bit since he got his big promotion and Vince can't run things forever.

 

[mrchanbong]

Wrestling Observer reports that Vince McMahon will assume "lighter duties" behind the scenes in WWE, with Triple H gradually taking more of the lion's share. Around WrestleMania 28, Triple H is believed to fully take over the day-to-day operations, while McMahon will merely exist in an advisory role, still overseeing, but largely hands-off.

 

[WorldHeavyweightChampion]

wrestlingfan, you are so correct on this one, and here is the PROOF to back you up:

http://corporate.wwe.com/governance/executive.jsp

When will people EVER learn the difference between television/movies/entertainment and REAL life? If some of the posters here knew the slightest bit about how a business or publically traded corporation operates they'd stop believing what happens on TV to be legit. Since WWE is a publically traded/owned corporation the STOCKHOLDERS are the ones who will decide the new Chairman after the Board of Directors have voted on it - the change WILL NOT and LEGALLY CAN NOT happen like this, NOR happen on television. This is just a storyline people.

But big props to you, wrestlingfan, for educating the people.

 

[A**hole]

Isn't it a requirement for Hall of Fame admission that they be inactive or at least not in the role that got them admitted (Lawler is a commentator now that sometimes wrestles) So until VKM was removed he couldn't be admitted. No doubt he deserves it and they would need a "headline act" in 8 months and a few days - They won't admit Edge this year just in case he can return.
There was no way in hell that they were going to lose both headliners from the PPV and I was waiting to see the swerve they would use to keep Cena on the roster.
What parts of the "Family" agreed he needed to be removed? Linda & Shane are no longer part of the company so that leaves a return to the "McMahon/Helmsley Era" even if their kids had any input
HHH never said he was taking over as chairman just that he would be responsible for the "day to day operations of the WWE"
I hope it's not just a rerun of the various take-overs we've seen before and that VKM is stepping away from on-screen cos we know he will always be active back stage.
HHH will have a good on scene roll without needing to get in the ring often.
They have so many options now with a new title belt.
Can Cena get a rematch? He wasn't beaten by whoever gets the strap
Punk will add more fun when he returns.
It's better that Cena lost the strap now and hopefully it won't be given back to him before WM. I don't think he will carry it into the match against Rock, unless Rock is planning a return for a bit.
Like many this has rekindled my interest in WWE so all I can say is......


Thank You Vince

 

[Shadow of Darkness]

Hell yah,

obviously part of storyline and also because of WWE's movement to start a new EDGEy era.

think of the time in attitude and ruthless eras Vince was a active performer come manager. Bt now Vince is old. He is too old to fight and wrestle like he used to do in past. To start the next attitude era u need stunning storylines with amazing fueds and offcourse involvement of Manager like Vince(past) and HHH(present) in main fueds. HHH is in a condition to wrestle more likely in a street fight.

punk vs. HHH is on his way to open the doors for a new WWE era, just like Stone Cold vs. Vince McMohan did in past.
believe it baby....

 

[ryder123]

As soon as HHH appeared on the Titan Tron the only thing I was thinking was what has happened to the old Triple H, The Triple H that wore extremely tight jeans with a Skull t-shirt and had a Sledgehammer dangling from his left hand. When he said he was relieving Vince of his duties I thought this is a plot to bring CM Punk back on TV. Vince will disappear for a short while and return with CM Punk at his side thus joining Punk in a revenge storyline, Vince and Punk vs WWE! The story will close i think at Wrestlemania. Not a very good way too approach things seeing as there is bigger things happening like CENA AND PUNK!

 

[martymcfly]

The thing that bothered me the most about this whole thing was not that the entire thing was completely implausible. Or the fact that Vince's character has done much much worse things and exhibited much more erratic behavior in the past than what he's been doing lately with the Cena/Punk angle. I can get past all that, as you usually need to suspend disbelief to some extent for just about any soap opera style story they bring into the WWE.

What bothered me is that they turned HHH into a blubbering fool when he made the announcement. Now, I'm not an insensitive jerk who can't understand crying, but to make HHH actually start bawling was completely out of line for his character, and to be honest, the situation did not call for it. And when he let out the tear filled caterwaul "I love you pops" I think I threw up in the back of my throat a little bit.

Seriously, why couldn't they just have had HHH just make the announcement like a normal human being? He could have still said that it wasn't easy, and he could have shown dismay or reluctance (or perhaps he couldn't, HHH is not the best actor) but to start wailing like he's a 4 year old whose ice cream cone just fell on the ground made no sense.

 

[2ndcitysaint52]

i agree i dont like triple h being soft like that on screen. If they really were and are going to go into a "new era" i personally thought he should of gone out and laid it down to vince in more of a "game" way if you will. I mean look at the pop when hunter comes out and to play off of MITB i thought it should of been a YOURE FIRED moment but im still excited to see what is to come of this whole thing. only time will tell.

 

[justinept]

So tomorrow night officially kicks off the second Triple H era in the WWE (the first one being the McMahon-Helmsley Era from the early 2000s.) Anyway, we all know that the WWE HAS to continue to shake things up from a creative standpoint if they want people to actually believe that new people are running the show. So what are some of the changes we can expect to see starting tomorrow night?

My first one is the return of Jim Ross to commentary. What better way to show a change than to shake up the broadcast booth? And who better than Jim Ross to do it?

Second change has to be the end of the anonymous GM angle. The bit was a solid idea when it began last year, but it has not only run its course, it has actually gotten into the dangerous stage of becoming irrelevant. Does anyone even care to know who the GM is anymore? With Triple H in charge, it gives them an easy out. He can threaten the GM by either exposing who he is or threatening to fire him.

Tag-team wrestling. Vince McMahon has a reputation of hating tag teams. He is accused of using the tag titles as a vehicle to further the storylines of singles wrestlers. Building a strong tag division would deviate from this course, and it would help make people believe that someone different was in charge.

Those are just a few ideas - I'm sure you people have plenty more.

 

[s3machine]

So tomorrow night officially kicks off the second Triple H era in the WWE (the first one being the McMahon-Helmsley Era from the early 2000s.) Anyway, we all know that the WWE HAS to continue to shake things up from a creative standpoint if they want people to actually believe that new people are running the show. So what are some of the changes we can expect to see starting tomorrow night?

My first one is the return of Jim Ross to commentary. What better way to show a change than to shake up the broadcast booth? And who better than Jim Ross to do it?

Second change has to be the end of the anonymous GM angle. The bit was a solid idea when it began last year, but it has not only run its course, it has actually gotten into the dangerous stage of becoming irrelevant. Does anyone even care to know who the GM is anymore? With Triple H in charge, it gives them an easy out. He can threaten the GM by either exposing who he is or threatening to fire him.

Tag-team wrestling. Vince McMahon has a reputation of hating tag teams. He is accused of using the tag titles as a vehicle to further the storylines of singles wrestlers. Building a strong tag division would deviate from this course, and it would help make people believe that someone different was in charge.

Those are just a few ideas - I'm sure you people have plenty more.

I would love to see good ol JR return behind the announcing table.. I don't know if Jim Ross would want to do it full time however.. I sure hope so though!

Its definitely time to get rid of that damn annoying anonymous GM.. I could care less who it actually is at this point.. Triple H should axe the laptop and make the decisions himself.

I agree with you wanting to make tag team relevant again.. I wrote out my own plan on what I would like to see happen in the 'Raw and Smackdown roster combination' thread... I would like to see the rosters combined and the heavyweight titled unified into 1 World title..

I would really like to see the IC belt mean something again. The IC division used to have the absolute best talent back in the day IMHO.

Triple H loves to showcase new/young talent. Hopefully we see more youngsters get air time.. Zack Ryder should get the push he deserves.. he took it upon himself to make a name for himself by using social media.. that is absolute genius and only goes to show how dedicated the man is and how much love he has for his profession.

Im eager to see what the new regime has in store for us.. it starts tomorrow night!

 

[LegendKiller716]

I think he should scrap the WWE title match.

What better way to start the show by saying that even if Rey or Miz wins, it wont mean anything because Punk is the rightful champion.

He should say that Vince was willing to take the easy way out, but he isn't, and he is gonna either get Punk to resign, or he'll take the title from Punk himself.

Also, some things the IWC has been bitching about. I think a legit tag team wins the straps tonight. Also, not only is Zack Ryder on TV, but he is in a match, and he's a face, and he wins. You can bank on that.

Also the Raw GM will be exposed and/or fired.

 

[[email protected]]

Bring prestige back to the belts.
Remember HBK and Bret Hart feuding for the IC title? Amazing stuff...
Mr. Perfect held it for awhile, it mattered at the time.
Not to discredit today's wrestlers, but the storylines and feuds need to have more focus.
By doing so, teaming up singles superstars together would revive Survivor Series.
It doesn't have to be the rebirth of the Attitude Era, but enough leeway to personalize things and make it more competitive.

Also, less and less of the vintage finishing combinations.
More wrestling. Let the athletes earn their money, they are good at what they do.
Remember Taz and his suplexes, or power bombs and body slams?
How about the heals doing whatever it takes to win.
Cheating like pulling tights during a pin or putting their feet on the ropes for leverage.
Using weapons when they're desperate, taking cheap shots, or knocking the ref down.

 

[ZUMBOdriver]

Tag team wrestling and Jim Ross on commentary are two things that I enjoy. By all means, lets bring those two things back.

I would also like to see the WWE Heavyweight belt change its design. Hopefully it happens this Monday when WWE crowns its interim heavyweight champ.

Also, I agree that the anonymous GM must be addressed somewhat soon. It does seem a bit irrelative these days, doesn't it? Hopefully with HHH in charge now, that angle can get some legs under it again. Just a personal opinion but I think the anonymous GM ends up being Shawn Michaels. The old DX buds will start off on the same page but their real motivation will be revealed driving these old friends apart. Both men will be in a power struggle on Raw because they each want that power to give themselves one more shot at The Undertaker's Wrestlemania streak. Caught in a power struggle with HBK and obsessed with beating the Undertaker, the board of directors will take control away from HHH and give Vince McMahon control back. Vince's first action back will be to make a Triple Threat @ WM28 Taker v HHH v HBK. I know it would cheapen HBK's original retirement match but I think this match would be worth it.

It probably won't play out like that, but I do think HHH's run as Chairman will be short in terms of the television story. I also think that HHH's run will make for very entertaining Raws and I'm excited to see what Trips has in store as the boss.

 

[That Other Guy]

With HHH being appointed the new COO of the WWE, do you think we will see the end of the Anonymous RAW GM? Or will HHH have a smaller role than a GM but on both brands? I can see him being a weekly presence on RAW. If HHH begins making decisions about booking, etc., do we really need a hypothetical figure emailing instructions? The two seem mutually exclusive unless they begin contradicting each other and have some sort of power struggle which honestly makes little sense as HHH could simply "fire" the GM. The angle is played out anyway. Would you like to see a phasing out of the GM or a new angle to rid us of the computer at ringside?

 

[daddyJ_t]

if they do get rid of the raw gm. id at least like to know who was planned for the role at least. im not quite sure what to think of raw now with hhh. i want to give it a chance but it may be hard after being a vince deciple for the last 25 years. but i jus got a huge vibe from raw tonight and im not quite sure what to think bout it

 

[Evenflow DDT]

Well if you get rid of the Raw GM shouldnt Teddy Long be right behind him? Why let SD keep their GM if Raw doesnt have one? If HHH was going to have full power wouldnt that include SD? The only thing that makes sense is to either "unmask" the Raw GM or fire him/her and bring in someone new to run Raw.

 

[xoxo French Kiss xoxo]

I'm currently watching Smackdown and not even 25 minutes into the show, and three different Raw Brand Superstars have appeared on Friday Night Smackdown. R-Truth, Zach Ryder, and John Morrison.

Other factors that could lead to this are how there are only around 40-45 active stars between the two shows currently, with a lot of the of the vets either retiring or being taken off of TV for creative reasons. Big Show and Kane come to mind.

Usually around Bragging Rights and Survivor Series or during 3 hour Raw's we see superstars from both brands appear on Raw, but we rarely will see Raw superstars on Smackdown...


Could Triple H taking over Creative Control in the WWE mean an end to the Brand Extension?

Could we see Smackdown Superstars appearing more frequently on Raw in the coming months? or vis versa?

If the extension ends, what will happen to the WWE and WHC?
Will they unite the two and make a Undisputed Championship again?

OR

Could CM Punks departure with the WWE Title make the WHC the main focus title for a while, unless Punk is forced into defending it against Cena at Summer Slam?

 

[Mitch Henessey]

I still can't believe this, and I'm still buzzing from that unbelievable segment a few weeks ago. That segment was full of emotion, and everything felt so shocking. The stuff between HHH and Vince was unreal, and seeing Vince cry felt so weird. I'll always think of Vince McMahon as the strong guy with the cocky power strut, so seeing him cry just didn't feel normal. This was a moment I'll never forget, because a big torch was passed to Triple H.

So far, Triple H is doing a fine job as an on-screen authority figure. He can still deliver on the mic, and he does have a strong presence. He grew tired of Christian's whining on Smackdown the other night, and HHH did look intimidating, as he warned Christian about interrupting him in the future. HHH can still step in inside the ring, and have a good or solid match. I don't expect him to wrestle on a regular basis, but there will come a time, where he has to step back in the ring, because some rebel on the Raw roster will go out of their way to challenge HHH's authority. And I'm sure HHH will turn heel in the future. Vince wasn't always a bad guy, and I don't think HHH will stay face forever. He should turn every now and then, because The Game can be a superb heel. HHH is still over withe fans, he is a legend, and he should do a fine job with this role.

I never thought the Mr.McMahon character would come to an end. I grew up watching the truly evil version of Vince, and I always thought McMahon would continue his character. I always thought he would stay on TV for as long as he could, because I thought death would be the only way the Mr.McMahon character truly died. It could've reached the point where Vince was in a wheelchair, and to tell you the truth, I would not have had a problem with it, because Vince could ALWAYS be a very entertaining on-screen character.

Change is happening in the WWE, and the future (HHH) has finally arrived.