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Neither is dying in the military, which 99% of the time involves violence at the hands of the enemy.

And if Milenko were to die, it would likely be due to Friendly Fire due to his being a Juggalo.

All kidding aside, Milenko, as much as we like to make fun of him and his poor life decisions, is doing something that takes a lot of bravery and guts. We should be supporting him and wishing him a safe return. If nothing else, he's probably in the running for being the manliest Juggalo, I can't fathom any ICP fan stepping up like he is.
 
Do you have proof that he is?

He hasn't hugged me once since he has been off the forums and in army. Dead people can't hug. 1+1=2
I don't need to prove that Milenko is alive,

To give any weight to your previous statement you do.

as we have proof that he has lived (based on the last time he posted)

You have to live to die. Last time he posted he wasn't dead.

and with zero proof to the contrary, we cannot assume he's dead.

Obviously some of us can. Do you really want to keep throwing out bullshit so that I can disprove it with facts like I just did.

You need proof to prove he's dead.

Hugs

You are just making wild accusations with virtually no evidence to the contrary.

That is exactly what you did when you said he was not dead, and you threw in mean, hypocritical, insults too.
 
I was thinking that I would make a thread posting the ideal jobs for various posters, but I think this sounds more entertaining. I'll try to pull this off before Friday evening.

First Sully's Bar Mitzvah, now Milenko's funeral.

That said, I don't find the "Milenko is dead" jokes to be in bad taste. Nobody is making him because he's in the army, they're making them because he's Milenko. If joining the army makes you immune to being the butt of a joke, than we can't make fun of Bill Cosby, Drew Carey, or Mr. T.

So come on down, because I pity the fool that bops his boobity with his bipty boppity.

The first person who makes fun of Drew Carey, either here or in the real world, gets punched in the throat and then slapped with my wallet.

So you have no problem participating in these jokes (which you have already done here) even though you have a friend serving overseas. How would you feel if people he knew started making jokes about his funeral? It'd be pretty shitty, right? I'm not saying I'm his friend or anything, but still, it's just shitty. Joking about ANYONES death is shitty, but a military-related death is worse.

The guy isn't here. There's no need to make fun of him. It doesn't make you cool, funny, or anything. As I said it makes you a douche. Making fun of someone when they're here is one thing. Making fun of someone when they are busy doing something selfless like joining the military is just shitty, man.

Step 1: Fight for what's right.
Step 2: Make sure everyone knows I'm not friends with Milenko.

That's my priorities in life too.

Not to that kid's face, no, and probably not in general because she's 5 years old. Also, cancer isn't a particularly funny way to die. Poisoning yourself is rather humorous.

Not really, but accidentally poisoning yourself while being a chef is.
 
I like Milenko, But I am curious on one thing...

Who's keeping up with his layaway payments for him?
 
Milenko isn't bad. I just question his taste in music. Everybody knows Juggalos end up either in jail, or murdered by other juggalos.
 
You also didn't know who BC was. You're not as in touch with the Bar Room enough to be qualified to make these calls.
I know who Blue Cardinal is/was. But BC could refer to many other things or people, like Blue Chipper for example.

Since you insinuate I'm not in touch with the Bar Room enough to know how many funerals have been planned for Milenko, why don't you share? Please direct me to every thread in the Bar Room in which Milenko's funeral was planned before he left for military service.

I'll wait.

Are you comparing Milenko to a 5 year old with cancer?
Are you purposefully and obviously side stepping my point?

Honestly, JGlass, I don't think you're qualified to play word games with me. Perhaps you should attempt to play word games with someone more on your level. Like Milenko, for example.
 
I know who Blue Cardinal is/was. But BC could refer to many other things or people, like Blue Chipper for example.

Fair enough.

Since you insinuate I'm not in touch with the Bar Room enough to know how many funerals have been planned for Milenko, why don't you share? Please direct me to every thread in the Bar Room in which Milenko's funeral was planned before he left for military service.

I'll wait.

http://forums.wrestlezone.com/showthread.php?t=219165

Sorry to keep you waiting.

Are you purposefully and obviously side stepping my point?

If your point is that insulting a 22-year-old to his face (or on the internet) is no different than insulting a 5-year-old to her face, then I really don't think there's much of a point to sidestep.

Honestly, JGlass, I don't think you're qualified to play word games with me. Perhaps you should attempt to play word games with someone more on your level. Like Milenko, for example.

Honestly, Slyfox, you're not half as clever as you think you are. A name change might be in order. Maybe something like Slysquirrel or Slygoldfish. You're still smarter than your average rodent/carnival prize, but without the delusions of grandeur.
 
Do you have proof that he is? I don't need to prove that Milenko is alive, as we have proof that he has lived (based on the last time he posted) and with zero proof to the contrary, we cannot assume he's dead.

You need proof to prove he's dead. You are just making wild accusations with virtually no evidence to the contrary.
On a long enough timeline, your stance becomes unreasonable. Like it is right now.
 
He had already left for the military. :shrug:

I asked for the threads which occurred BEFORE he left.

If your point is that insulting a 22-year-old to his face (or on the internet) is no different than insulting a 5-year-old to her face, then I really don't think there's much of a point to sidestep.
Since that wasn't my point at all, I guess you're either sidestepping, or didn't comprehend it.

Honestly, Slyfox, you're not half as clever as you think you are.
Says the person who has missed the point. :shrug:
 
It was a shit point and an awful comparison, one person is a running joke who is known for doing stupid things, who went into the military to do catering, and somebody pointed out that he'd probably poison himself sampling his own food, which is where the joke started and thereby snowballed. Basically it was a joke about Milenko being Milenko which just so happened to incorporate his military service.

The other person is a five year old with cancer, which for a start I doubt any five year old could inflict on themselves and the cancer isnt just somewhat lighthearted speculation based on what we already know about that person. I am not sure anybody missed your point, it was just awful.
 
It was a shit point and an awful comparison, one person is a running joke who is known for doing stupid things, who went into the military to do catering, and somebody pointed out that he'd probably poison himself sampling his own food, which is where the joke started and thereby snowballed. Basically it was a joke about Milenko being Milenko which just so happened to incorporate his military service.

The other person is a five year old with cancer, which for a start I doubt any five year old could inflict on themselves and the cancer isnt just somewhat lighthearted speculation based on what we already know about that person. I am not sure anybody missed your point, it was just awful.

No, the other person was an ANNOYING five year old with cancer who was constantly causing problems for other people.

In both cases, it's okay because we're not joking about death, we're just making a joke about the person. And that's okay with everyone right? If you're okay with one, you should be okay with the other.

You most certainly did miss the point.
 
Not really though. A five year old, annoying or not, can't really be responsible for their actions do making a death joke, whether they are healthy or not will always be more disproportionate than it would about someone like Milenko, who has been responsible for his reputation as an idiot. I agree with your overall point, I think Stormtroopers position is tenable, but it is a crap comparison.
 
Not really though. A five year old, annoying or not, can't really be responsible for their actions do making a death joke, whether they are healthy or not will always be more disproportionate than it would about someone like Milenko, who has been responsible for his reputation as an idiot. I agree with your overall point, I think Stormtroopers position is tenable, but it is a crap comparison.

It's not a crap comparison at all. The point I'm making is that most people would consider it reprehensible to joke in front of a 5 year old cancer girl that she is going to die. But it's NOT reprehensible because of the person, but rather the situation.

JGlass kept trying to defend his position by saying it's okay because they weren't making fun of dying, they were making fun of the person who was annoying and does dumb things. The 5 year old illustrates that even when a person is annoying or does dumb things, that is not enough to justify making a death joke. Once you acknowledge you cannot defend this type of joke simply by saying you're only making it because of the person, you can then apply that to other situations.

It was not a crap comparison. It was an argument where I purposefully created a situation where most people would not be okay with this type of joke, and am using it to apply to a situation which is relatively similar, with the only exception being the target.

The fact so many people seem upset that I would bring what people would consider "an innocent" shows that my comparison worked quite well. Because, as I said, once you realize how distasteful it is to laugh about a little cancer girl dying, it's easy to see how it's distasteful to laugh about someone who is the military dying as part of their military duties.
 
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No, the other person was an ANNOYING five year old with cancer who was constantly causing problems for other people.

In both cases, it's okay because we're not joking about death, we're just making a joke about the person. And that's okay with everyone right? If you're okay with one, you should be okay with the other.

You most certainly did miss the point.

Your point is that making fun of an (annoying) kid you've just met that is facing certain death is the same as jokingly saying that Milenko would poison himself in catering because, lets face it, its Milenko.

In a totally 100% black and white World, that is still a shit comparison.


It's not a crap comparison at all. The point I'm making is that most people would consider it reprehensible to joke in front of a 5 year old cancer girl that she is going to die. But it's NOT reprehensible because of the person, but rather the situation.

JGlass kept trying to defend his position by saying it's okay because they weren't making fun of dying, they were making fun of the person who was annoying and does dumb things. The 5 year old illustrates that even when a person is annoying or does dumb things, that is not enough to justify making a death joke. Once you acknowledge you cannot defend this type of joke simply by saying you're only making it because of the person, you can then apply that to other situations.

It was not a crap comparison. It was an argument where I purposefully created a situation where most people would not be okay with this type of joke, and am using it to apply to a situation which is relatively similar, with the only exception being the target.

The fact so many people seem upset that I would bring what people would consider "an innocent" shows that my comparison worked quite well. Because, as I said, once you realize how distasteful it is to laugh about a little cancer girl dying, it's easy to see how it's distasteful to laugh about someone who is the military dying as part of their military duties.

It is a shit comparison, if Milenko genuinely poisons himself, is given three hours to live, posts it on here, proves it to be true and then everyone makes fun of him, you might possibly have a point. Since its Milenko we are talking about, we might just see that situation.
 

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