Go Green Ranger Go! Official HGR Thread

[The 1-2-3 Killam]

This thread kind of died, didn't it? I'm just sorta chilling in here alone, talking to myself.

I'm going to catch up on ROH's TV product, because I have a ringside membership I never ever use. And by catch up I mean...watch it, at all. Anybody know of a good place to start, that's not too far back, but far enough that I could tell what's going on with all the stories?

 

[The 1-2-3 Killam]

Now Watching: 7/21/12 ROH TV

1. Adam Cole & Eddie Edwards vs. Mike Bennett & Brutal Bob (w/ Maria) - Fun tag team match to open the show. Bennett looks like a legit heel in Ring of Honor. He seems to have turned all the apathetic booing and "you can't wrestle" chants into real heel heat. Good for him. Great spot at the end that saw Sara del Ray return to Ring of Honor to even the odds in the post-match beatdown.

2. Wrestling's Greatest Tag Team vs. Fusion DS (?) - Video package before the match that brought me up to speed on the heel tactics of Haas and Benjamin, with the tag belts switching hands to A|N|X. Looks like this is before King left for TNA. Pretty much a squash match, with an awkward ending where the rookie tag partner hit the ring to break up the pin, and then didn't. Pretty sure that was the plan to make Haas look more intimidating, but it didn't work. Haas gets the pin with the Olympic Slam. lulz. Post-match promo by Charlie Haas. Basically calling ANX's victory a fluke. I never realized how much like HBK he sounds on the mic.

Promo from Jim Cornette, who basically buries the ROH roster by saying he had to go outside of Ring of Honor to find anybody with passion and fire. Mike Mondo comes in and demands the shot; he's all fired up and saying crazy shit about decapitating Steen and whatnot. Cornette basically says "what the hell!" an gives him the shot.

3. World Title Match: Kevin Steen (c) vs. Mike Mondo - Steen cuts a promo on the way to the ring, complaining about how easy it is to get title shots now that management has it out to get him. I'm a big fan of his "Kill Steen Kill" John Cena rip-off shirt. Funny shit. Steve Corino is on commentary, and he's doing a better job than Kevin and Nigel put together. At one point Steen grabs a live mic and starts taunting Mondo, only to scream like a girl when he comes off the top rope. I laughed. The Champ actually made Mondo look like a viable threat for awhile. Steen wins with the F-Cinq.

Following the match, Eddie Kingston shows up in Ring of Honor to level the Ring of Honor Champion. I don't follow CHIKARA, but I get the important of their Grand Champion showing up at an ROH show to take out their Champion. Pretty cool.

Overal the show was fun. I do like that ROH is only an hour; I'm not sure I could take any more than that. Two decent matches worth watching and a squash that got over their tag contenders. Add to that the two big run-ins with Kingston and SDR earlier in the night, and it was actually a pretty unexpected 46 minutes of television. Solid attempt.

 

[Remix]

From my position of ignorance, I disagree with you about whether Bennett would do well in WWE. The fact that he sticks out as being more of a 'WWE guy' than an 'indie guy' helps him considerably more in ROH than it would in WWE. In ROH it makes him stand out. Even in FCW/NXT he'd find himself surrounded by people who act like WWE guys, most of them better at it than him.

 

[The 1-2-3 Killam]

That's a very valid argument. I'll think on it. For me, the reason I think Bennett is more of a WWE guy is that he can draw real heel heat. Most of the time in ROH they'll only boo you if they think you suck, which used to be Bennett's problem. No Longer. I think he can tell a story, and he's more of a character than a pro wrestler. Bring him to WWE though, and that gimmick - much like what was discussed in the WZCW thread - isn't going to go anywhere. There's nothing special about him.

Good point.

 

[Remix]

That's a very valid argument. I'll think on it. For me, the reason I think Bennett is more of a WWE guy is that he can draw real heel heat. Most of the time in ROH they'll only boo you if they think you suck, which used to be Bennett's problem. No Longer. I think he can tell a story, and he's more of a character than a pro wrestler. Bring him to WWE though, and that gimmick - much like what was discussed in the WZCW thread - isn't going to go anywhere. There's nothing special about him.

Good point.

Bennett stands out as a character because he's surrounded by people who don't have one. That's not enough to make it in WWE. You need to be able to stand out and prove yourself worthy of time when you're competing for it against the likes of Damien Sandow. Go look up some PJ Black stuff and then compare it to what the guy's doing in WWE.

 

[Pepe Silvia]

Seems relevant to this thread

 

[The 1-2-3 Killam]

Doctor Who spoiler ahead.

Spoiler

THE STATUE OF LIBERTY IS A WEEPING ANGEL!?!?! WHAT IN THE LITERAL FUCK DID I JUST SEE!?!

 

[SD619]

Oh man, tonight's Smackdown... I don't want to give it all away or anything (is it spoilers if it's already been shown in most of the world?), but there's a reason my signature is awesome.

Just say that segment now..That was awesome. Probably the best thing that del Rio has done in quite some time. I particularly loved the part where he entered the ring just like Orton. Hopefully, we'll see a match between those two at HiAC.

 

[Remy LaCroix]

Are you watching Glory By Honor XI manyana?

 

[The 1-2-3 Killam]

Probably not tomorrow. I'll be doing a live pre-show for Bound for Glory tomorrow, with a bunch of other guys. I'll probably download it monday or tuesday and watch get to it eventually. Too busy this weekend.

 

[FlexAmerican Dynamite]

How's your WZCW character going Killam?

 

[The 1-2-3 Killam]

I talked to Numbers about it, and I decided to put that on hold at least until the movie tournament is over. I can't get too over-loaded again and end up quitting the third week in. If I'm going to do it, I'm going to do it right. And right now I've got get ready for Bound for Glory, which means a preview, review, and play-by-play. I still have to do a review for NJPW from Monday, I'll have ROH tonight, and the movie tournament starting on Monday. So I'm going to wait, and get it started in a few weeks when everything isn't colliding at once.

 

[Beastmode 24]

Hot damn more new blood for WZCW? Sweet

 

[The 1-2-3 Killam]

This is gonna be one of those weird, "share too much information on a public forum" kind of posts. Just so everyone knows.

So I recently moved from Chicago to Oregon, for a variety of reasons. Most of them had to do with friends, work, living in a state I didn't hate, etc. But a small part of it is that where I moved from just reminds me too much of my ex. We were best friends for years, then dated through high school, got engaged afterwards, and it fell apart about two years ago now. Most of the feelings and whatnot are gone, but there's still some residual stuff left over. Like when I pass her old church, or house, or go anywhere the two of us went together. Stuff you don't forget about, not because you dated, but because you dated and were best friends for YEARS.

Long story short, I thought it would help to move somewhere I'd never been. Completely escape and start fresh. But 4-5 times every week now, since I've moved, I dream about her. Sometimes it's happy, we get back together, nothing ever happened, etc. Sometimes she dies. You may have noticed that I posted in the forums particularly between 2-7am...it's because I don't sleep. I can't sleep, because if I wake msyelf up from these dreams of her, I fall back asleep into nightmares. So I've been an insomniac for about a month, and I think it's driving me insane. It's making me not think straight, and do things I wouldn't normally do. Like write long rants about how i don't like Tastycles.

Yesterday I sent her a big rant-filled email that was every range of emotion from "I'm probably still in love with you", to "I'm really pissed you started dating one of our mutual best friends", to "I'm sorry I was a shit boyfriend and ruined everything." It was a bad decision, and probably ruined any shot at communication between us in the future.

I'm just hurting a lot at the moment, and it basically comes from not being able to sleep. I thought I buried this whole thing, because it's been 2 years. I've dated other people, fooled around, had "flings" with 18-year-olds, etc. I can't figure out what's causing me to have these dreams/nightmares, and if it doesn't stop I'm going to become too absolutely depressed that I'll never leave the house, and never got off my computer ever again.

 

[Beastmode 24]

There's just some shit that you just can't bury. I had to go to therapy for about a uear after a break up once, so I know how much it sucks.

 

[Gelgarin]

I can only speak for myself; but the last time I had a serious relationship go south on me I felt so much better when I finally felt comfortable lampooning Tastycles on the internet again.

On a more serious note; talk to somebody remotely qualified to listen to you. This includes doctors and counselors and does not include old friends and people on the internet. Being angsty is one thing, but if you're suffering from nightmares and insomnia then you're manifesting legitimate medical symptoms and need to get that shit sorted pronto.

Otherwise you wind up locking yourself in what we in the uninformed bullshitting profession refer to as a 'cycle of discontent'. Sleep is incredibly necessary for general well being, and a decrease in general well being can fuck with one's ability to sleep. Get the nights sorted out and the rest will eventually follow, keep going round the same old roundabout and you won't get anywhere, no matter how fast you run.

The internet's here for you if you need it, but I strongly advise you not to use us and instead find somebody who knows what they're talking about.

 

[Snitsky4GM]

I can only speak for myself; but the last time I had a serious relationship go south on me I felt so much better when I finally felt comfortable lampooning Tastycles on the internet again.

On a more serious note; talk to somebody remotely qualified to listen to you. This includes doctors and counselors and does not include old friends and people on the internet. Being angsty is one thing, but if you're suffering from nightmares and insomnia then you're manifesting legitimate medical symptoms and need to get that shit sorted pronto.

Otherwise you wind up locking yourself in what we in the uninformed bullshitting profession refer to as a 'cycle of discontent'. Sleep is incredibly necessary for general well being, and a decrease in general well being can fuck with one's ability to sleep. Get the nights sorted out and the rest will eventually follow, keep going round the same old roundabout and you won't get anywhere, no matter how fast you run.

The internet's here for you if you need it, but I strongly advise you not to use us and instead find somebody who knows what they're talking about.

I agree with Gelgarin on this one. It has been quite a long time since that relationship has ended and you are still grieving about it. You have tried working it out yourself with the help of your friends and family but it still hasn't given you the help or closure that you need. If you aren't cured of any woes upon seeing me in my underwear while holding two kittens then you probably need to try something new, whether it be a support group or a psychologist that is your decision.

 

[ScreaminNormanSmiley]

and never got off my computer ever again.

I'll buy you a wife if it will help.

 

[Final Form Snyper.]

SNS, that's probably the most selfless thing I have ever seen. You sir, are a gentleman and a scholar.

 

[Tastycles]

If you don't like me, fair enough, but I can offer my own experience here. This isn't advice to be taken or left, it's my own experience, but maybe it will be helpful. I don't really go into my life on here often, and I'll be honest and say the following will leave out some stuff, but it's all true:

I broke up with my girlfriend about two years ago, for reasons I'd rather not go into. We remained friends for a year, against the advice of everyone on planet earth. Eventually, she kicked that arrangement to the long grass and it was horrible. Every single thing reminded me of her and I couldn't really let go. I kept trying to get her to talk to me, via e-mail, text etc to the point of despair.

I can't say I ever channelled it into e-rage, but I certainly became less pleasant to be around. Around the same time I got myself into counselling, and sorted myself out. I realised that there was a lot more wrong beyond this and to be honest some pretty serious things came out of it.

It sounds like you're in a pretty dark place, but I can't reiterate enough how much professional help has helped me. In this country, most of them charge based on what you earn, so it's affordable for most, though I can't speak for the USA. I will finish my counselling in a few weeks, and I can honestly say I don't think I've been happier in my life, I only wish I went before I threw friendships and relationships away.

Everyone is different, and I appreciate what worked for me, won't for you, but I can tell you that if you're writing rants about people that you have never met, nor even had a proper conversation with, you're never going to be happy. The change has to come from you, and doing what other people tell you won't help either. I wish I'd made my change earlier.

 

[The 1-2-3 Killam]

Food for thought, I suppose.

I'm always surprised by the people I want to dislike on the forums, because they eventually come around. Like SNS, offering to buy me a wife. But I guess that's what mentor-mentee relationships are all about, even if they're not consensual.

Thanks for that Tastycles. Seriously. I guess I just got a bad taste in my mouth from the way you went off on Fight Club. I don't think it's the greatest movie in the world, but I also didn't feel the giant shit you took on it was justified. I don't really dislike you all that much, I just don't agree with you a lot, and I think often the points you make are coated in so much acid and hate that it's not even worth it to figure out what you're trying to say.

 

[Tastycles]

I legitimately don't think I hate anything at all, nor do I think my posts are clouded by emotion but you're entitled to your opinion I suppose.

As for Fight Club, it deserves to be in the tournament on its reputation, I was merely pointing out that I will be arguing that it doesn't deserve it.

 

[ScreaminNormanSmiley]

Food for thought, I suppose.

I'm always surprised by the people I want to dislike on the forums, because they eventually come around. Like SNS, offering to buy me a wife. But I guess that's what mentor-mentee relationships are all about, even if they're not consensual.

Thanks for that Tastycles. Seriously. I guess I just got a bad taste in my mouth from the way you went off on Fight Club. I don't think it's the greatest movie in the world, but I also didn't feel the giant shit you took on it was justified. I don't really dislike you all that much, I just don't agree with you a lot, and I think often the points you make are coated in so much acid and hate that it's not even worth it to figure out what you're trying to say.

Isn't the point of a movie tournament to argue for and/or against films? If somebody speaking out against a movie bothers you as much as it did, it might not be the best thing for you to do.

 

[Pepe Silvia]

Furthermore, several popular non-wrestling related programs have been bringing in low ratings as well, as they continue to dip lower every year with the increased presence of Netflix, Hulu and illegal downloading.

You do realizethe rating is a proportion, right? The viewer coun has dipped (which matters) but a low rating can just mean people are watching other programs; if people watch netflix instead of TV it wouldn't change ratings too much, compared to someone watching American Idol over RAW or a likewise situation

 

[The 1-2-3 Killam]

WWE Main Event is awesome. There's literally 10 minutes of promos and video packages for a Miz and Kofi Kingston title match. Seriously, if you haven't seen it, you are missing out.