General WWE Complaining & PG Rating Thread

[Sasori]

Well the MITB is meant to elevate mid-carders to the main event, or give a main eventer a shot to prove them selves and get a title shot. The MITB did SO much for Edge! If there was no MITB we wouldn't have seen The Rated 'R' Super-star rise to glory. Or R.V.D. triumph his way to 2 world championships the ECW and WWE titles! But I do agree with one thing, CM Punk is going no where with these shitty title wins of MITB.

P.S. CM Punk is a 3 time world champ, should be 4 but 3. (1x ECW HWC, 2x WWE WHC [current], 1x ROH world champ IT SHOULD COUNT!)

 

[RVDgurl]

I have to say that I don't really have an opinion yet of the MITB as of right now. I have to wait and see how things play out. I think the idea of MITB is a great one- give a great push to someone who will be entering the main event scene. The past winners of MITB have been solid choices (yes, even Kennedy) and all have gone on to success after their MITB win.

The back to back MITB wins of CM Punk definately threw me for a loop this year. It was unexpected. And the curveballs keep on coming after CM Punk's win at Extreme Rulz last night. I absolutely expected Punk to be the first MITB winner to lose the match in which he cashes it in.

Well, Punk is a back to back MITB winner and he did successfully cash it in to win a world title. This is where things could go very wrong or very right. After listening to the reaction from the crowd last night, a heel change could be a huge benefit for Punk. And it could save the reputation of MITB.

 

[TwistofRKO]

I still support the concept of the MiTB, but the execution has gotten lazy, at best.

The last three cash-ins have been similar, nearly identical, and I know personally, I've been waiting for the cash in after every PPV since 'Mania, so I wasn't that drastically surprised.

The concept stays, giving one superstar a chance to cash it in, but they need to expand their horizons in execution.

 

[mcflyboy]

In response to paradox100's post...first I disagree with his lauding of "sex" 10 years ago. It was lame and immature and I don't miss it, and I don't think it was a mistake to tone it down.

But I'm really confused by this:

When I started watching ten years, it was the exact opposite. It was SEX, SEX, Violence, SEX!

Um ok, to each their own. But your current age is 14? So you started watching when you were 4, and back then you loved the product because of its high content of sex?

I must have been a late bloomer or something, because I don't remember anything I saw on television when I was 4, nor do I recall being a sex-crazed hornball at 4.

 

[Ambiguous Turd]

In response to paradox100's post...first I disagree with his lauding of "sex" 10 years ago. It was lame and immature and I don't miss it, and I don't think it was a mistake to tone it down.

If you thought that this was "lame and immature", why don't you go support something like Ring of Honor, or go watch UFC? It is clear that more people embraced the version of the company when it was sex and violence ... as opposed to this version of the company, where it pretends it is actually a real sport, and not entertaining in the slightest.

But I'm really confused by this:



Um ok, to each their own. But your current age is 14? So you started watching when you were 4, and back then you loved the product because of its high content of sex?

I must have been a late bloomer or something, because I don't remember anything I saw on television when I was 4, nor do I recall being a sex-crazed hornball at 4.

You're confused by that? Let me help you out. Pssst, 14 probably isn't his real age. If you look around, quite a few people aren't using their real ages on this forum.

 

[Ghostboy259]

Any fan of wrestling, and even the wrestlers themselves know that if you want to make it big in Wrestling, the WWE is where its at. Yet we see things like:

Breaking News: WWE Releases Umaga
Breaking News: WWE Releases Mr. Kennedy

And so on...

So what?

That's it?

Just because of some random reason when somone is on the top of their game, fire them?
Is WWE trying to get people to hate him?
2 guys who were about to get a push, and now their gone.
It may not seem like much now, but wait till it hits the bigger names.
Like Kane, or Swagger, or even Rey Mysterio after he drops the mask.

True or False? The WWE is the most horrible wrestling organization to work in?

 

[SavageTaker]

So you want us to tell you whether the WWE is the most horrible promotion to work for even though most of us on these forums have never even worked for them at anytime in the times we have been living human beings?

I have never worked for the WWE and I don't know whether I will ever work for them but my guess is that the WWE is a great company to work for. Yes there will probably be some bumps in the road but it will still be a great company to work for especially if you compare it to the way it was in the 80's and 90's to today. Today you have a great drug testing policy that has already saved the life of some of their performers. You also get to travel the entire world. Do you know how awesome it would be to get to go to places some people can only dream of going to? Another thing is that they pay you pretty good and if your smart you will be secured for life with their pay. Another 2 things are you get to meet great people and you do what you love. If you really love wrestling then you will think it is a great company to work for as you would be wrestling for a couple of times a week.

So to answer your question, No the WWE probably isn't a horrible company and I think it would be awesome to work for the.

 

[RendarSelin]

I don't think WWE is a terrible company to work for. As fans, we only see from the outside in, mainly judging everything we base our opinions on from internet "sources". WWE made two releases based on their judgments and knowledge. Perhaps it was wellness violations, perhaps due to violating some rules in regards to matches, we'll never know for sure. However, many companies are laying off employees left and right. Does this make any of those companies terrible to work for? Unfortunately in the business world, layoffs and firings occur, and without the inside knowledge, we're just outsiders judging decisions without knowing all the facts.

 

[jokeboy624]

I have to agree with ST, this is a pretty impossible question to answer for most people on this forum as we haven't worked for the company. I imagine it's a pretty good company to work for. They offer things other companies don't, such as paying rehab for current and former employees. It's true that wrestling is an unique business, but I've never heard of another company offering rehab to former employees.

It seems like you're basing the work conditions on the fact that Kennedy and Umaga were released. I don't know what the backstage going-ons are in the WWE, but it is possible that these decisions were made for very valid reasons. People have postulated that Kennedy was released because he was a danger to others. That sounds like a company looking out for its employees, which is what I'd want in an employer.

Plus your speculation that Swagger, Mysterio or Kane were next on the block is ridiculous, even if you were just throwing names out there. Of course I will eat my words if they do get released for whatever reason.

 

[sTyLnK]

Everyone has a personal opinion on the WWE and you have to have worked for the company to know for sure. We don't work in the company so I really don't think many of the reports we read are all that accurate. Unless you hear from the people themselves you have to take everything with a grain of salt.

 

[High_Roller74]

Kennedy was let go because he was an injury risk, to himself, and others. We've yet to hear the reason behind Umaga, maybe he failed a Wellness Test, maybe he wanted to be released?

To answer your question.....the answer is False. Outside of the hectic travel schedule, I bet you take a poll of every wrestler out there who has worked for WWE, and I bet the overwhelming majority would call it an amazing company to work for. And I'm sure the positives working there, would out weigh the negatives tremendously.

 

[Hacksaw Highway]

I don't know anything about the backstage working sof WWE, but I know it's better than 'wrestling' in front of 100 people, getting weed whackered in CZW JCW or other joke promotions.

 

[Paradox100]

In response to paradox100's post...first I disagree with his lauding of "sex" 10 years ago. It was lame and immature and I don't miss it, and I don't think it was a mistake to tone it down.

But I'm really confused by this:



Um ok, to each their own. But your current age is 14? So you started watching when you were 4, and back then you loved the product because of its high content of sex?

I must have been a late bloomer or something, because I don't remember anything I saw on television when I was 4, nor do I recall being a sex-crazed hornball at 4.

No, I'm not saying I understood the Sex. But you saw, and heard so much. I don't remember the era much, but remember going to smackdown, and seeing godfather and the hos. Or when Triple H had Trish bent over and looked like they were screwing and Steph walked in. Did I understand it then? no. Do I look back and think "Wow, they pushed limits" yes.

 

[Andres_cena]

I'd say its just what fired people say to get to the spotlight and bring popularity on their own. WWE is by far the best know wrestling promotion world wide so working there assure you work in other indy/wrestling organizations. Example super crazy, he wasn't a big deal on the wwe yet he has many house shows on different independent organizations in mexico now and im pretty sure he's being paid well, same goes for lance cade, lashley, and pretty much any ex-wwe. WWE boosts your popularity and wheter or not the backstage work feeling is good or not, its the best paid, known, and safest industry to work at since the wwe will limit you not to get injured as much as they can + You get to travel a lot cause of all the over sea tours and you get to know the world. I doubt working in the wwe is worse than working on any of the other companies cause of that.

 

[Tenta]

Any fan of wrestling, and even the wrestlers themselves know that if you want to make it big in Wrestling, the WWE is where its at.

And that's exactly why it's not the worst place to work. Because it's the big show, and when you've reached the WWE, you have the skills to make it anywhere. Vince has the faith to hire you. It's up to you at that point to make the most of it.

Yet we see things like:

Ok.... I think where we're going, and if we're about to go into rantings about wrestlers getting released, then this is a massive overreaction. Lest we forget that less than two months ago, TNA let go of Sonjay Dutt, Lance Hoyt, and another wrestler (can't remember at this moment). People get released. Get over it.

Breaking News: WWE Releases Umaga

I'm pretty sure that there's more details to come out regarding this. Let's wait until all the facts are out.

Breaking News: WWE Releases Mr. Kennedy

I'm sorry, but when you injure wrestlers, and haven't done much in the business, you're going to get cut. That, and his own injury issues have led to his firing. And the whole Randy Orton situation is not the first time we've heard of Kennedy injuring someone. Remember that he was responsible for (ironically) Umaga's second injury.

And so on...

So what?

That's it?

Just because of some random reason when somone is on the top of their game, fire them?
Is WWE trying to get people to hate him?
2 guys who were about to get a push, and now their gone.
It may not seem like much now, but wait till it hits the bigger names.
Like Kane, or Swagger, or even Rey Mysterio after he drops the mask.

True or False? The WWE is the most horrible wrestling organization to work in?

Ok, I'm just going to lump this into one matter: The WWE lets people go. So does every other promotion in America. The WWE isn't the only promotion to release wrestlers. The WWE has their reasons for hiring and firing people, and for what it's worth, they seem to have a time tested protocol. I think I'm going to trust their judgement.

 

[Slyfox696]

I'm sure that the WWE is far from a good place to work in, as far as most jobs go. There are very few benefits, you can be fired on a whim, the travel sucks, and it takes years off your life.

But, it also pays very good money to the best, you get to perform in front of thousands of people 3-4 times a week, and you're offered opportunities to do things and see places that you would never get to experience otherwise.


But, I wouldn't say it's a terrible place to be, just because people who serve no purpose get fired.

 

[Henry Hill]

this is quite a jump of the gun. I was actually at a house show here where i live and my friends and I did our best to get as close to the front as we could, so we found a roped off section right behind where the sound guy was working. He was gracious and talked to us and let us know that he would vouch for us as long as we didn't make asses of ourselves. So what does this have to do with the thread? well it was right after the wwe changed their dress code so that all wwe employees had to wear the collared shirts and all that garbage. since we got to sit there we heard him giving fellow employees a hard time about not changing over in a joking manner, but overall every agent, all the ring crew that came by us, and everyone who wasn't an in character performer was very happy and upbeat. the sound guy we sat behind was nice enough to talk to us and tell us that the pay was beyond fantastic, and that it was a great job. you can say he was toeing the company line, but why lie to a bunch of nerdy kids? i mean whos gonna believe whats written on the internet anyway?

 

[daniel_4tw]

I'm all for the current concept, but they need to book it better.

After a ladder match? Really? CM Punk already wrestled, really?

It would have been perfect, absolutely perfect, if everything panned out, Hardy kicked out of the GTS, as he did, but then got the rollup for the 3.

CM Punk would have gotten his much needed heel turn, Jeff would have the title, and would've made good TV.

 

[bigbootydaddyV]

how is it that the winner of money in the bank has yet to use it to headline wrestlemania...being champ is one thing, but winning it at the biggest event is another, or at least competing at the highest level is something. RVD was the only winner to even use it for a future date and it was perfect at one night stand given RVD's history with ECW, but i think next years winner should seriously use it to get a shot at WM

 

[Henry Hill]

how is it that the winner of money in the bank has yet to use it to headline wrestlemania...being champ is one thing, but winning it at the biggest event is another, or at least competing at the highest level is something. RVD was the only winner to even use it for a future date and it was perfect at one night stand given RVD's history with ECW, but i think next years winner should seriously use it to get a shot at WM

Edge totally wrestled the Undertaker in the last match at Wrestle Mania 24 dude. technically it wasn't his mitb shot, but mitb successfully elevated him to main event status. RVD would've done a lot better but he uh, well, needed a smoke break? Any way mitb is sorta like a stepping stone. and while with everyone but Edge and possibly CM Punk(this time) it has failed to do so, more because of the wrestler than the case. well that is to say Kennedy. anyway yeah its a gimmick that you can use to cash in at the most opportune time. Edge and Punk when the champion is at his weakest, RVD when the ppv was "extremely" home turf(pun intended) anyway as far as a gimmick it works to get a quick belt switch when necessary.

 

[HBK-aholic]

The opposite of the thread asking what the WWE would need to do for you to stop watching altogether. There is way too much negativity on these boards recently, 'fans' who do nothing but say how bad the product is. Now, I'm sure the point of the WWE is to entertrain us, so you're not really a fan if it doesn't, but anyway. What could McMahon do in order for you to completely enjoy the product again? I'd answer this myself, but I quite love wrestling as it is. The only thing that could make it better is Shawn Michaels returning, and that's not a problem anyone has decided.

 

[The Todd]

The Rock returning, which will never happen. What people don't realise is it is meant to piss you off at times. Back in the good ol' days it was acceptable to be annoyed at the product, now it seems "let's blame creative". For example, I hated Punk winning at Extreme Rules. Why? I loved the ladder match and it now won't be remembered for a great contest, but was Punk winning entertaining? Sure was. People take the result too seriously, and the fact their wrestler looks too weak. Apparantly Orton getting owned by HHH last night is a sin because Ortons should look strong. No he shouldn't.

The product is fine. If you don't like too many wrestling match ups and you prefer the entertainment side, you watch Raw, if you prefer storytelling in the ring you watch Smackdown. If you prefer young up and comers you watch ECW. If you prefer violence you watch TNA. There is too much choice for people to complain. Personally I prefer Smackdown as I like watching competitive matches, and as long as there is one show dedicated to that I won't complain.

 

[RatedRKO93]

Vince needs to switch up the people in the main event and switch around the fueds. The current fueds are so boring and are dam near impossible to watch. If i see Triple h and randy orten battle over the wwe title again im gunna be really pissed. They also need to introduce some new talent to the main event. etc. MVP John Morrison The Miz and mayb even HBK hes due for another title run. They also need to stop realising good talent etc. Kennedy and Umaga. They need to get the fuck out of the pg era and they need to bring back some of the older stars RVD and Kurt angle would be a good start. Bring back trish as well

 

[blair4107]

I would be fine if they would just do NORMAL finishes to matches. Why can no heel get a clean win? Either they have to cheat to win or or there will be one of 1000 disqualifications with stupid reasons for the D.Q.'s. These ends can be enjoyable, once in a while, they shouldn't be the norm.

 

[HBK-aholic]

I would be fine if they would just do NORMAL finishes to matches. Why can no heel get a clean win? Either they have to cheat to win or or there will be one of 1000 disqualifications with stupid reasons for the D.Q.'s. These ends can be enjoyable, once in a while, they shouldn't be the norm.

Heels don't generally get clean wins because it makes us hate them more. Think about how annoyed you are when yet another heel gets a 'cheap' win by using the belt when the referee isn't looking, or having their foot on the ropes. It's things like that which make us hate/be annoyed. And guess what? That's the point of them! WWE is doing a fine job.