Sigh, must I go over how you blatantly are ignoring the big picture in order to find some hidden "conspiracy" of support for Elijah Burke again? Wow, talk about beating a dead horse. But I guess, if I must, then I must.
Wow, Spawn, just wow. Instead of actually debating the topic at hand, all you want to do is take THREE WORDS and use that to go off on a half-cocked post using a tired theme that was no longer relevant a week ago. Seriously Spawn, I expected better from you.
Hey, it got your attention, did it not? And if you look at every post that I have replied to you with, I have asked you repeatedly and you ignored that fact and even left out the statements when you reposted what I said. So if if got you to finally answer the questions at hand, then it served it's purpose well.
Maybe you are not aware of what long term selling is. Allow me to explain. Long term selling is when, after making a move by your opponent look like it hurts, CONTINUE TO SELL THE MOVE LIKE YOU ARE HURT.
Take, for example, this match.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sDO7YDXfxjM
In this match, for the first 1:30 or so, Punk is working on Burke's arm. Putting knees in it, arm bars, etc. Burke is squirming around like his arm is broken in half. The next thing you know, Burke has Punk in a hammerlock, using his "bad" arm to do the pulling of Punk's arm. How does that make sense? Just one case out of many of Burke's poor long term selling.
In comparison, let's take John Cena's match vs. Chris Benoit on Raw. Chris Benoit worked Cena's back, and thus, because Cena is a good seller, he sold his back injury and wasn't able to put the FU on Benoit. That's called long-term selling.
Wait, are we talking about the very same Cena match where he sold the injury while trying the FU but still did a flying shoulder tackle and bounced up to do the 5 Knuckle Shuffle? Now maybe I need some remedial physics class, but you can't sell for one move and then totally ignore the injury for four or five other moves that would put much greater strain on the back area. And how many times have we seen someone work on Kane or Batista's knee only to see them limping on the wrong knee later or performing a flying top rope clothesline or a Batistabomb? Wouldn't these moves put more strain and weight on the knee than a scoop slam where they were in so much pain that they dropped the guy?
So please explain the different between that and selling an arm injury? Oh wait, it will probably take you 5 more posts until you actually answer that as it took you 5 to answer these "three words". I mean what did you do Sly? Were you stalling for time while you had your little brother scour the net to try and find you some proof? And I looked at your clip, you failed to mention that the hammerlock is with BOTH of Burke's arms and that he was still holding his arm in the closing moments of the match as if it still was hurt. And he also was still selling the gut damage from Punk even after the bell rant when he was holding his midsection and even when Corvon touched his stomach area. What's that called Sly? Oh yeah, it's called SELLING. Something you said he couldn't do. So that negates your statement. Wow, your own evidence negated your statement. Rather lame Sly.
But, I'll tell you Spawn. Your lack of wrestling knowledge, and what it means to sell long-term isn't what worries me. It's the fact you picked up on three words, and use that to cover the fact you are wrong in EVERYTHING ELSE I said. You haven't been able to deny his poor psychology, nor the fact that he could never get over. You can't deny that you made a racist remark in the very first post, and you can't deny that smaller guys in the WWE got over at the same time Burke could not.
Oh I have wrestling knowledge. You just haven't given me any reason to have to use it. I mean look at you. You are going on about three words that you refused to answer for five whole posts. You are doing exactly what you are accusing me of you doing. No wait, you already DID exactly what you are accusing me of doing. But I will humor you. No, I did not make a racist remark in my first post. You have to squint your eyes and do some reaching in order to even continue to call it that, especially after I explained myself. And yet you have a blatantly purposefully racist remark in your post but refuse to explain it one bit. You said "what I wrote was clear" as your response. Yeah, clearly racist. It didn't belong in this post and the only reason that you wrote it because I am black.
If My name were Asian-Ameri-Spawn pr Hispani-Ameri-Spawn, you would never have brought up the issue or called it racist. You wrote what you wrote purposefully in order to make a nice debate nothing more than a muck raking debacle. And I used to think that was beneath you Sly.
Basically, in an effort to save face, you made a ridiculous post, using an election style platform about THREE WORDS, to try and cover the fact that I have proven time and again Burke to be a poor wrestler at the moment, something that TNA doesn't need, that WWE doesn't want. Then you tried to talk about how I supposedly said that he should be out of work, a blatant misinterpretation, which I shoved right back in your face when I showed you my very first post in this thread, and how if Burke were to improve, the WWE would welcome him back.
No, I made a post because you seemed to refuse to answer a question that I asked you 5 times. You didn't answer because you didn't have a valid answer and still don't. And as usually, you seem to be stuck on stupid as you make ridiculous accusations or claim that I accused you of something. if you reread the statement about him not working, the ORIGINAL STATEMENT, then you will see that I said that because you said he sucks does NOT mean that the guy doesn't deserve to ply his trade elsewhere.
So, let's just take a tally of what we've done in this thread.
Yes please, because I have lots of fan mail to read from the people who seem to think that your argument is lame that I have bested you at ever turn.
1. We discovered you made a racist remark, in your very first post, by saying that TNA has to replace a black man with a black man.
No, you had to reach, reform, and reconstruct in order for that to even be remotely perceived as racist, and that would be under certain circumstance. Rare, but still certain. What YOU said was blatantly racist. You may have said it for shock value, but you said it. And yet, you refuse to refute that it is. You seem, to only want to deflect the racist accusations back towards me. Well keep it up there Wonder Woman. Maybe you will lasso yourself and finally tell the truth. You were the one who screamed racism first and it's not working.
I never said that TNA had to replace a black man with a black man. I said that a void was left behind by the departure of Killings and that it would be a good fit for Burke. Plain and simple. But I see you would rather see how far you can reach on that one huh? Well keep trying there Ray Charles, you aint going to find it. Oh damn, I mentioned another black man in my argument. God dammit, I AM a racist. You were right Sly. I should never mention another black name again. Shame on me.
2. Proven that Elijah Burke sucks as a wrestler, which is not something you've even tried to dispute.
Um, I do believe that I said we should just agree to disagree and that I never said he was the best, just that I think he could correct his flaws in TNA. Much as how Christian did. You remember him right? Almost the same argument could have been made about as not being a main event ready performer at the time that he came to TNA. Thing is he proved us wrong because he had the chance. Who knows WHAT Burke could do? Oh wait, the all might and all knowing mind known as Sly does, doesn't he.
3. Proven that TNA doesn't need a mouthpiece or if they do, there are far better ones than Burke, another fact you won't dispute.
EVERYBODY needs a mouthpiece. Whether he be a manger, a performer, or even a replacement for Don West. And come on, you KNOW he could do a better job than West. Sure there are better? But WHO is available right now? I'll await your answer.
4. That TNA doesn't need Burke because they already have guys with just as much, if not more, TV experience than him, who are also better wrestlers.
Wait, who said tv EXPERIENCE. I said TV EXPOSURE. There's a difference. Burke has has higher level exposure and therefore would be an easily recognizable name and face. Once again Sly, you ignore what I say in leu of what you only THINK I said.
5. That you can't remember a post that you're not directly quoting.
Yeah, and you seem to ignore posts where people ask you direct questions. So obviously you are much worse.
6. You're only supporting Burke because he's black, which is proven by your lack of support for Paul London, who is three times the worker Burke is...just only white.
What lack of support for London? I thought I pacified your inner child by making a post a bit ago. Check about three posts ago. Oh yeah, i know what it is. You ignored the post of where I said that London is in the same boat as Shannon Moore to concentrate on the fact that I even mentioned Shannon Moore. But it seems pretty funny that there are about 10 to 15 other people who have posted here, all white. And all supported Burke. How come you aren't arguing with them? What exactly are you hinting at Sly? Why don't you straight out say that you think that the only reason why you think I made a thread about Burke is because I'm black and that is the only reason why you posted here and stirred up an argument. I mean I've made other threads and posts about white wrestlers that you seem to blatantly ignore or not even go near. It's because you wanted to make race a factor and belittle the debate to it lowest form. Shameful Sly. Very shameful.
7. You try to cover your own posting flaws by latching on to three words, forcing me to actually watch another hideous Burke match to prove my point, something I had wished to avoid.
What posting flaws? I pointed out 4 times that I asked you 5 times about that one question which you blatantly ignored until I made a whole post about it. Sure you copied and pasted, but only to deflect because your selling argument was lame and mediocre at best. And obviously you didn't watch the whole match,as you only watched about 2 minutes. Otherwise you would not have posted something that crushed your point rather than validating it.
8. That most people, including the WWE, thinks Burke sucks.
I think you were looking for the Burke sucks thread. That hasn't been made yet. perhaps you should go make it and see who actually posts there. Otherwise, this is the Burke to TNA thread. Not the same topic my friend.
9-100. I'm sure there are other points to be made, but I can't be bothered with posting them now.
Probably because you can't think of any. It's okay Sly, jut admit it.
So, basically, what have we gotten out of this? Simply that I have defeated you at every turn. And since you're so big into the election style posting, I will graciously await your concession speech.
You really discount the noob vote, don't you? I got a mailbox full of messages from others saying that I'm giving you quite the "woopin". Now while I think that I may only be edging you out a bit or a mile, whichever, I think that the votes don't lie. You, my friend, much like Joe Liberman, should have conceded a long time ago. But hey, I'll keep humoring you because I know it makes you feel better.
