No, I didn't misunderstand it. It was a poorly justified rant that was meant written just to differentiate from the popular opinion. Classic Sly move if you ask me. Classic and yet simplistic in form.
Obviously you did misunderstand it. Because I was talking about some of the qualities that make a good wrestler, thus a wrestler the WWE would want to keep, and then connected that with the fact that Burke doesn't have those qualities.
Then you ask if I knew it was scripted. Which has ZERO to do with what I said.
Not sure how nothing I said changes even the smallest iota of what you said.
Because you never addressed the fact that Burke sucks? That he couldn't sell, incorporated zero psychology into his matches, etc.?
All you talk about is the OTHER people the WWE was pushing, while NEVER ever actually commenting on what I said.
So, like I said, it changes nothing. Come back again if you'd like another lesson.
Agreed.
No, WWE told him to go out and job to a bunch of to a bunch of sloppy, over-rated up and comers and over the hill ECW has beens.
Ignoring for a moment that Burke spent the a large part of 2007 feuding with with guys like Tommy Dream, Rob Van Dam, and CM Punk...so?
What does that have to do with what I said? You can still work psychology into your matches, and you can still sell long-term injuries. Who you're working with means ZERO when discussing those attributes.
And, you can still get yourself over with the fans, regardless who you are working with. Especially when you are working with the top talent on the brand, and contending with World Champions like Punk, RVD, and Batista.
And he still did what he was told. he went out, put on a good match, and then laid down for them.
That's just the thing...he DIDN'T put on a good match. That is what I'm trying to say.
Not sure how much "ring psychology" that needs to incorporate, but it seems that he still did the same thing that MVP is doing these days.
MVP plays his character in the ring far better than Burke did.
Where is the difference in the two other than gainful employment and MVP's new gimmick being a jobber?
Talent? The ability to get over?
And I'm quite confident that it was in "Slyspeak", a language that you speak fluently and use a reason not to elaborate. The point still is that larger wrestlers were getting pushed during what should have been his time to shine. Less charismatic wrestlers at that.
Which has NOTHING to do with Burke being able to get over, especially, as I've already pointed out, CM Punk was getting over as well.
People care if you get a push.
No, people care if you are good.
Hell, the only reason why people gave a shit about Lashley was because he was booked in a way that gave him cheap poppage and MADE you give a shit.
What? People cared about Lashley because he was an incredible physical speciman, connected well with the crowd, and had a very good power game.
Nobody gives a shit about a wrestler who's booked to come out and lay down ever week unless it's part of an angle, as with Colin Delaney.
But Burke WASN'T booked to job every week back in late 06 and 07.
And I'm not sure what you mean by selling long term injuries.
I know.
I mean the guy was booked to come out and lay down.
No he wasn't. He was booked as one of the main-eventers on ECW.
Ah ys, I was waiting for someone to bring up the Punkster. Who pushed for Punk to be brought up to the main roster? Who pushed for Punk to get his push? Answer that one and you will see a pattern. Or should I lay it out for you and mention the likes of Batista, Shawn Michaels, Orton, and many others who Triple H favors.
LOL
A classic. Whenever one of our favorites don't get pushed, let's blame creative and Triple H. It certainly can't be the wrestlers' fault, oh no. Always someone elses.
That's a joke Spawn and you know it. And I can't believe you would resort to such ridiculousness.
Fans cared about Lashley the same way they cared about Goldberg.
And fans cared about Burke the same way they cared about Heidenreich.
Oh god. Do I really need to explain this again? You really have to stop repeating your statements. The others had bookiEcw Originals vs. The New Breed angle. But that was flubbed with the whole Punk Fiasco and it went downhill from there. But I really felt that Burke established himself well with that and was separating himself. Of course, creative just decided to stop pushing him for some reason. No creative. No booking. Nobody cares.
Nobody cared about him BEFORE they took him off the screen.
But, after the New Breed vs. Originals, Burke was in several main-event matches, and contending for the ECW title several times.
Burke's failure to get over was HIS fault, no one elses. It's also a sign of his lack of skills, and the things he needs to work on.
That was a comedic statement right? Because I am laughing my ass off as I am still picturing Big Daddy V pull off the worst two black hole slams that I have every seen during his first ECW match. And after that, he never used the move again. Sure, he had a high spot or two, but he made Ron Reese look good for putting on a suit made of toilet paper every time I say him. And was that supposed to he his version of a ripped off Vader sign with his hands? It looked like he had leprosy every time he did it. And let's not get started on Lashley. He was highly over rated and pushed entirely too high. He was like Butterbean, wrestlings version of the king of the 5 minute match. Simply atrocious.
You're right. Clearly you know more about professional wrestling than Vince McMahon.
That's why Big Daddy V was around the WWE so long. Because he sucked, right? That's why Bobby Lashley was a main-eventer, and incredibly over with the fans, right? Because he was over rated?
How can you possibly type these words and ever believe they come close to making sense? How can you not understand that getting pushed has nothing to do with getting over, and that the ones who get pushed are usually the ones who are getting over anyways?
Burke looked more finished than V and Lashley. Not sure why you won't admit it.
Looked more finished? The guy couldn't get over. Maybe you aren't aware, but professional wrestling is a "for profit" business. If you can't get over and make people pay money to see you, then you are not a good worker.
And then you get fired.
Wait, what you said in your post was the equivalent of saying that you never met a black person that didn't like fried chicken and you have the absolute nerve to say that my response was racist because I said that the status quo in TNA has been looking for Killings replacement in another black wrestler?
LOL
What I said had NOTHING to do with fried chicken, so kindly shut up. Don't turn into a Jesse Jackson and force me to body slam you for racism. All I said was is that I haven't met a black wrestling fan who hasn't supported a black wrestler. Were the implications clear? Absolutely.
But hey, it appears you didn't get it, so let's try this another way. Why are you not up in arms about the WWE releasing Kenny Dykstra? Or Paul London? Or Chuck Palumbo?
How come the only person I see you starting threads for is Elijah Burke? TNA has NEVER said anything about a "status quo", so you are obviously making that up to suit your cause. Where is the "Paul London to TNA thread"?
