Edge the new WWE champ

[ChokeslamToHell]

You know what gets me when some young talent come in the wwe and they push them so they become champion in 4 years or less when they couldve push a more better super star like kane who has been working for longer years.

Not only that, but Kane (especially 3-4 years ago) was as good a wrestler as any big man in WWE history. Up there with the Undertaker. Since then, he's torn his ACL and had trouble staying as thin as he was, but back when he got his new mask where he was talking and when he was demasked he could hang with anyone out there. His agility for someone his size was uncanny. Even Stone Cold put Kane over as the next big thing. People forget this, but Austin allowed Kane to NO SELL his Stunner! How many people has Austin let do that? The only person I can think of is the Rock. That Raw in Canada where Austin put Kane over was Austin passing the torch, IMO. Unfortunately, the flame was tempered by a few individuals who I won't name because people get mad about it.

Another thing about Kane is that his mic skills are EXTREMELY underrated. Because of his character, he hasn't used them much but 3-4 years ago Kane was cutting the best promos in the WWE when he was allowed to talk. The one with Hogan and the Rock is an absolute classic and his Kanearooni is legendary. The guy is straight up entertaining and deserving. Please make this guy the champ. Maybe Kane can finally with the Rumble (Best performance of all-time by Kane in the 2001 RR, BTW) and get the big win at WM 23? God, that would be sweet. I'd love to see Glen break down and cry, because he's earned his moment.

 

[wrestlemaniaxxx]

We live in a age when whoever is the champ becomes the most criticizied man in pro wrestling. Here are the last few champions:

WWE
Eddie Guerrero - Didn't draw
JBL - Can't wrestle
John Cena - Can't wrestle
RVD -High on drugs
Edge - Average

WHC
HHH - Politics
Batista - Musclehead
Angle - Transitional champ
Rey - Too small

So it doesn't matter who's champ, the fans are never happy.

Disagree!!!

WWE
Eddie Guerrero - Excellent wrestler. Not the best choice to be the champ at that time
JBL - Too long reign! He didn't deserve that championship for more than three months. Good heel!
John Cena - Can't wrestle. That's true! He sucks... Same problem with JBL.
RVD - High on drugs. Sadly but true. RVD is awesome and he was doing well.
Edge - Average? Not true! Copycat? Yes! But who hasn't. He is not one of my favorites, but I have to admit that Edge gonna be a great champ.

WHC
HHH - Politics? Maybe... but he has proved his is one of the best ever!
Batista - Awesome champion. Have muscle, charisma!
Angle - Transitional champ? Sad... Angle deserves a championship... but WWE gave it to Cena darling
Rey - Too small. agree! He is not a Heavyweight!

 

[Ipswichicon]

To qoute Jake Roberts in his DVD "a titles nice to have,it's nice to have the money! But if you don't need it why have it. Kane is the same he doesn't need the title to attract intrest in his fueds and the fact he's still on the upper mid card without it is a credit to him.

 

[The Masked Vato]

Disagree!!!

WWE
Eddie Guerrero - Excellent wrestler. Not the best choice to be the champ at that time
JBL - Too long reign! He didn't deserve that championship for more than three months. Good heel!
John Cena - Can't wrestle. That's true! He sucks... Same problem with JBL.
RVD - High on drugs. Sadly but true. RVD is awesome and he was doing well.
Edge - Average? Not true! Copycat? Yes! But who hasn't. He is not one of my favorites, but I have to admit that Edge gonna be a great champ.

WHC
HHH - Politics? Maybe... but he has proved his is one of the best ever!
Batista - Awesome champion. Have muscle, charisma!
Angle - Transitional champ? Sad... Angle deserves a championship... but WWE gave it to Cena darling
Rey - Too small. agree! He is not a Heavyweight!

Um...peopleschamp wasn't criticizing. He was saying that that is what the fans said. It helps if you actually read the post you quote. Thanks.

 

[peopleschamp]

Disagree!!!

WWE
Eddie Guerrero - Excellent wrestler. Not the best choice to be the champ at that time
JBL - Too long reign! He didn't deserve that championship for more than three months. Good heel!
John Cena - Can't wrestle. That's true! He sucks... Same problem with JBL.
RVD - High on drugs. Sadly but true. RVD is awesome and he was doing well.
Edge - Average? Not true! Copycat? Yes! But who hasn't. He is not one of my favorites, but I have to admit that Edge gonna be a great champ.

WHC
HHH - Politics? Maybe... but he has proved his is one of the best ever!
Batista - Awesome champion. Have muscle, charisma!
Angle - Transitional champ? Sad... Angle deserves a championship... but WWE gave it to Cena darling
Rey - Too small. agree! He is not a Heavyweight!

Geez, you missed my point completely!

If you had read my post at all, you’d know that these aren’t necessarily my opinions, but the opinions most had about these champions. My point was that no matter who’s champion, somebody would find something to complain about.

It’s your right to disagree, but next time please read the post before responding!

 

[ChokeslamToHell]

To qoute Jake Roberts in his DVD "a titles nice to have,it's nice to have the money! But if you don't need it why have it. Kane is the same he doesn't need the title to attract intrest in his fueds and the fact he's still on the upper mid card without it is a credit to him.

That may be true, but you know deep down it is every wrestlers dream to be champ. It signifies a respect and trust from other wrestlers and ownership and I'd assume it would mean more to someone like Kane who's been working so hard for the WWE for so many years.

 

[bewarethepink]

Eh, its better than Cena being champ...
Am I right?

 

[ShaneRamlall]

Yes you are

 

[Cena 4 Life]

No Your Not

 

[Zoltaire]

I like Kane as much as the next guy, but evidently he's on the way out apparantly and we all know that Vince doesn't do alot of people contemplating retirement as they aren't the future of the company. As for the fellow who questioned why I enjoy Orton..why not? He's pretty good in the ring, I'll agree that Monday wasn't the best Promo the guy has ever cut he usually does better. But he does well in the heel role, he's smug, arrogant and ****y and he sells the part well. I've heard he's a jerk when he's not acting/wrestling but then again..what do I care? I'm not recommending him for a humanitarian award I'm saying he's an entertaining heel in the WWE.

 

[Ipswichicon]

No Your Not

Great arguement! You sure proved bewarethepink and Shane Ramall wrong there I'm sure they have both now changed thier mind and agree with you, swayed by your convincing argument! Zoltiare is correct. Whilst it would be a nice pat on the back(and a well earned one) for Kane, it is not really in the best intrests of the business to give the title to a guy,when it's already common knowledge he is on his way out. In this respect Cena is a better choice for champ, however I hope they don't go there. I would like to see Edge have at least a three-six month regien this time,with challenges from up and comers. An Edge Orton fued would also be enjoyable as they are both outstanding heels on the mic and the promo's would probaly be really funny(as opposed to Cenas promo's that all seem to try to make out his opponent is gay). I would also disagree that the wrestlers dream is to hold the world belt, the dream is just to be there and be a big star. It's not like the superbowl, you don't actully win it ,it's givien to you (although I agree it must be earned) and I'm sure Kane already knows he has the respect of his fans,the other wrestlers and indeed Vince himself.From all I've heard about Glen Jacobs I don't think HE is too bothred about being the champ, he doesn't sound egotistical or out for himself enough and maybe that is why he has only ever had the 1 day title regien. However it would be nice to see him as champ, wouldn't hold your breath though.

 

[Cena 4 Life]

I thought or heard that after DX is done triple h is going to have a heel push but then hes gonna feud with edge. Is it a possibility that edge will have the belt while hes feuding with triple h. Plus i do think its good to get the belt off of cena for a bit cuz fans were getting sick of it (not me of course) but i dont think edge is going to be much of a champion

 

[wrestlemaniaxxx]

Geez, you missed my point completely!

If you had read my post at all, you’d know that these aren’t necessarily my opinions, but the opinions most had about these champions. My point was that no matter who’s champion, somebody would find something to complain about.

It’s your right to disagree, but next time please read the post before responding!

Sorry about that! I wasn't criticizing you... My bad!

You mentioned that fans think that way. Me, as a fan, disagree. Thats what I tried to express. But once again, my apologies!

 

[wrestlemaniaxxx]

Um...peopleschamp wasn't criticizing. He was saying that that is what the fans said. It helps if you actually read the post you quote. Thanks.

And for you... STOP BUGGING ME!

LOL! Just kidding... Truce!

 

[ShaneRamlall]

WOW!!! You heard wrong.First off HHH will be staying Face for the rest of his carreer.That is fact.Secoundly he will be fueding with Orton.And Cena is supposebly going to take the title off edge at summerslam.Im not sure tho.WWE always change their mind.

 

[bewarethepink]

No Your Not

No YOUR not...
yeah...

 

[Cena 4 Life]

thats kinda odd that triple h would all of a sudden go to face and stay face but with the wwe these days u never no

 

[RatedR-Raider]

what really sucks is that everybody knows edge will lose the title at saturday night main event or sooner but for the support go edge!!

 

[Cena 4 Life]

He better lose it otherwise there goes raw ratings. The only champs who can be heel and still have good ratings are Triple H and Orton

 

[Zoltaire]

Uh yea, that's so obvious that Raw will lose ratings with a heel champion whose not HHH or Orton. That only rules out the possibility past, present and future of any heel possibly succeeding. As such its a dumb ass statement, as there is absolutely no evidence to support it. Then again an intelligent comment coming from a Cena mark would be a rarity what are you 12?

 

[Ipswichicon]

He better lose it otherwise there goes raw ratings. The only champs who can be heel and still have good ratings are Triple H and Orton

I know it was only a 2/3 week run but when Edge says he was the most watched WWE champ in the last ten years that's actully true. Which kinda ruins your point,sorry.

 

[Cena 4 Life]

I dont know why its a dumb ass comment. I dont think in there i said there wont be any good heel characters. But Edge of all people i rather see someone whos actually worth watching. People are only pissed at Cena cuz he was a fighting champion that lasted for awhile. Plus people arent complaining that Ric Flair won it 16 times. Edge is just gonna b another transitional champ like he was b4.

 

[Zoltaire]

Its a dumbass comment because you said he better lose it or there goes raws ratings. You offered nothing in support of that nor any proof to support it. All you really managed to say is "I don't like Edge". So what? Your name indicates your a Cena mark and likelyare irked anyone else is champion. On the other hand his ouster as champion was overdo as it had become stale, boring and horribly repeative.

 

[Zoltaire]

I could just as easily say the champion needs to stay Anybody But Cena, for a lengthy period of time or there go ratings and its a statement equally if not more valid to yours considering there is actually some thought behind it.

 

[The Aggressor™]

Yeah it was a pretty dumb comment. Edge is capable of bringing in more ratings than Cena. He has been with the WWF/E loyally for over a decade and I am pleased to see Edge is finally getting his dues. He portrays a good heel (although he likes to feed off the cheap pops lol) and I look forward to seeing his run as champion and hopefully this reign will last longer than 2 weeks.