Does Every Raw Have To End With Cena?

[Cenation716]

Segments in the middle of a show aren't meant to be the bigger deal. WWE puts more into the ending because the ending leaves fans wondering & being excited for the next broadcast. The segments in the middle can be overlooked as fans look more to the main event or anything else after it. I'm not saying that if the tag team match would've drawn as much as the Cena/Del Rio ending, but you get my point, right? I'm sure more will he put in the Nash/Punk/HHH story in the coming weeks.

 

[jokernaut]

cena shouldnt have to be at the end of every show because guess what, its not the draw you think the wwe is getting. look at their ratings. dont try and tell me hes the one saving the ratings from getting worse when there are a lot of fans blogging etc talking about how cena has made things worse with his predictable wrestling and pg attitude. wwe wants to be more predictable sooo how about having some different endings instead of cena. doesnt seem that difficult. he is not the top draw anymore and hasnt been for a while. the spotlight should be shared. thats why the attitude era was so successful because anyone could close out the show. only good thing about cena was that at least he was entertaining for once

 

[CelticCorey]

I get your point and THAT was what I was worried about earlier. I know all *I* want right now is more of Punk/HHH/Nash but will it go that way? Are others feeling the same way I am? Is WWE? That's my concern.

 

[Headman]

Ok I was a little fed up tonight. I'll give Cena props. He did a good promo but was that whole Summer of Punk thing the headline all this summer JUST because it involved Cena? I know people who will respond to this will use the top draw argument but this is getting a little bit silly.

They couldn't have had the match a little earlier and then have the Cena run in and THEN Nash tries to explain himself with Punk coming out to have that EPIC war of words? I mean that was freaking amazing. Imagien the cliffhanger for next week if RAW ended that way tonight with Punk having to leave and then the stare down on the titantron and in the ring?

But noooooo! Gotta get Cena! Can't trust Punk! Even though he's over as can be. I'm excited for this storyline. I want to see what they will come up with next week. Punk once again showed his overness tonight with all those chants and so many Punk t-shirts again in the crowd.

Maybe I'm just getting myself worked up but seriously why couldn't this have been the next to last segment? Are you seriously telling me Cena/Del Rio is more important than Punk JUST BECAUSE it has Cena in it? Was this the main focus of the WWE JUST because of Cena? ARE YOU KIDDING ME?!?!?

I feared it would be the more of the same stuff. With ALL that happened last night, with so many questions, you end the show with Cena/Del Rio.

Nice, WWE.

Because it happened after the WWE Championship main event. Should they have placed the main event earlier on the card? You already answered you own question really. Cena is the top guy in the company so he's going to close the show.

But the main point is the main focus is on the WWE championship. As it should be. I don't know why you'd have a problem with that.

cena shouldnt have to be at the end of every show because guess what, its not the draw you think the wwe is getting. look at their ratings. dont try and tell me hes the one saving the ratings from getting worse when there are a lot of fans blogging etc talking about how cena has made things worse with his predictable wrestling and pg attitude. wwe wants to be more predictable sooo how about having some different endings instead of cena. doesnt seem that difficult. he is not the top draw anymore and hasnt been for a while. the spotlight should be shared. thats why the attitude era was so successful because anyone could close out the show. only good thing about cena was that at least he was entertaining for once

Oh boy, they always come out at night. Explain to me how you know he's not the top draw. Please share these numbers that I'm sure the WWE has not made you privy to, yet you've some how deduced that Cena is no longer the top draw. And then you drag the attitude era into the conversation claiming anyone could close the show. Did Val Venis ever close the show? Hell no. It was always one of the top guys, usually Austin or the Rock, but that's besides the point. You guys are letting your blind Cena hate make you look stupid. Cena is the biggest star. If he wasn't, the WWE wouldn't put him in the position he's in. They're in the business of making money, and just because "a lot of fans blogging" don't like Cena doesn't mean Cena isn't insanely popular. People who love him tune in to see him. People who hate him tune in to find stuff to complain about. What you and people like you fail to understand is that the WWE isn't worried about hardcore fan boys on the internet. You'll watch no matter what and you and the rest of us net peeps prove that every week. Don't like what they're doing? Tune out. But my guess is if every wrestling nerd on the internet tuned out it still wouldn't make a difference to WWE's bottom line because we're not the ones buying the toys, the shirts, the slurpee cups, the majority of tickets or any of the other crap they push out. Most of us probably steal the ppvs or read about them on websites like this. Internet fans don't pay the bills. Casual fans do. And casual fans aren't the ones bitching and moaning and starting pointless threads about how much they hate John Cena.

 

[Peaky1969]

I rarely post, but thought I would add my 5 cents worth. I enjoyed RAW tonight. I think it made perfect sense the way if played out. From what I'm reading on the news page, WWE really isn't sure which why they are going to go with this Punk/Nash/HHH story line yet.

I thought the short Cena ending worked. May be letting him be a little more "edgy"...given I don't watch RAW every week, but can't remember hearing him say he was "pissed" quite a few times like that.

I look forward to seeing where it goes. I enjoyed SS as well. Thought the WHC match was great. I haven't watched Smackdown in a while, so Christian/Orton was more of a fresh thing for me, tho I know those of you that watch every week have been seeing those 2 go around a lot.

 

[Nick Black]

So I wake up at 4AM after watching RAW and dosing off for 5 hours. What do I do? Go onto the forums and read through this. Now I have a headache.

The problem here is, you're EXTREMELY concerned over something that you don't need to be. I do agree that Cena was at the end of the show and people tend to focus more on that, but I feel that any logical person would realize that the cliffhanger is the HHH/Nash/Punk storyline. Even the WWE has no clue what to do with it yet. The Cena/DelRio storyline is straightforeward: Cena wants to kill Del Rio. No cliffhangers, no questions, no problems.

I feel that you just have to wait until next week. Because as someone said, all hell is going to break loose. I highly doubt that Cena will end up closing the show next week, because things will be figured out with the HHH/Nash/Punk situation by then and the answers will be solved.

Don't worry so much bro. Either way, we're all gonna watch RAW next week and hope for whatever we want to happen, to happen.

 

[TheWrestlo]

honestly i want cena 2 just leave he cant wrestle worth shit and i think ur right the punk/nash thing was great and would have been a awesome closer and i think it would have been the last thing on the card if the WWE title match wasent there and honest i would have rather seen del rio break reys arm then have cena do something who else thinks cena was better when he was a heel rapper?

 

[UFOcalling]

I'm getting to this thread EXTREMELY late, so I haven't read all the other posts here yet. If I repeat anyone, I apologize.

When I was watching Raw tonight, I was actually surprised that the Alberto Del Rio/Rey Mysterio match went on as long as it did. I was expecting that we would see Cena at the end of the night (since we didn't see him during the episode), and I was not shocked at all to see him make the save for Rey.

Since this was Rio's first title-defense, I don't think the WWE higher-ups wanted to end the show with him. He's not "established" enough as a champion yet, and they needed an "established" star to close the show. That "established" star just happened to be Cena.

To be honest, I thought that Nash's "explanation" would have closed the show (when HHH revealed that Nash would be at Raw at the top of the show). I figured that HHH & Nash would talk in the ring, Punk would interrupt (like he did when Nash was in the ring), then Cena would come out...but I like the way that the WWE booked Raw tonight.

Obviously we're going to see a Punk/Nash match soon, but probably not for a little while. I originally was thinking it could be a wrestlemania match, but I don't think that this "feud" can stay hot until 2012. Maybe Nash costs Punk his rematch for the world title, or something....I dunno.

Like I said earlier, I liked the way that Raw ended tonight. Cena got to do his whole "the WWE Championship is the only thing that really matters to me!!" speech, and directed it at Alberto. It was done well, and ended the show on a good note (at least IMHO). Just my two cents, anyway.

 

[mrwilliams061088]

I'm just as sick of Cena as anyone else. But wwe is pg now which means their target audience is kids and who do kids love? John Cena. We hadn't seen Cena the entire show, do you really think they were going to go an entire raw without the face of the company? To quote The Miz "really?" I would rather deal with Cena the last 5 minutes of the show than to have him shoved down our throats for 2 hours so i'm not complaining. I do agree Kevin Nash and Punk should've been saved for last, but oh well. I'm interested to see where this goes, if we'll see Triple H revealed as a liar, or if Stephanie is behind it. Either way should be interesting.

 

[steveom07]

Ok I was a little fed up tonight. I'll give Cena props. He did a good promo but was that whole Summer of Punk thing the headline all this summer JUST because it involved Cena? I know people who will respond to this will use the top draw argument but this is getting a little bit silly.

They couldn't have had the match a little earlier and then have the Cena run in and THEN Nash tries to explain himself with Punk coming out to have that EPIC war of words? I mean that was freaking amazing. Imagien the cliffhanger for next week if RAW ended that way tonight with Punk having to leave and then the stare down on the titantron and in the ring?

But noooooo! Gotta get Cena! Can't trust Punk! Even though he's over as can be. I'm excited for this storyline. I want to see what they will come up with next week. Punk once again showed his overness tonight with all those chants and so many Punk t-shirts again in the crowd.

Maybe I'm just getting myself worked up but seriously why couldn't this have been the next to last segment? Are you seriously telling me Cena/Del Rio is more important than Punk JUST BECAUSE it has Cena in it? Was this the main focus of the WWE JUST because of Cena? ARE YOU KIDDING ME?!?!?

I feared it would be the more of the same stuff. With ALL that happened last night, with so many questions, you end the show with Cena/Del Rio.

Nice, WWE.

Cant believe you risked life and limb and bashed Cena in these forums. I think 90% of the people who 'wear their colours proudly' come on here lol.

I completely agree with you, to be honest I was all for Cena not coming out at all. Give the guy the week off TV.

That being said, I thought his promo was good. Apart from saying 'Eventually you'l have to defend that world title' The guy JUST defended it, he was speaking as if he had had it for weeks and hadnt defended it.

 

[jackson-lowe]

Cena should end most shows, he is the face of the company after all.
I mean if Punk is to go into a feud with the company, and the corporation, they need the main event championship match at the moment to be Del Rio and Cena. (And the Miz or whoever, if they want a triple threat)
I think we will see Del Rio ending shows during this reign as champ

 

[Mustang Sally]

I can understand what the OP is saying, but it's inevitable that WWE will ride it's biggest horse to the finish line each week, especially when it fits so well into the storyline. I had been thinking the company was ready to turn Cena heel as a result of what happened at the PPV, and the idea they might also be turning Punk into a total face by virtue of what Nash did to him seemed a possibility. Instead, the company showed that this wasn't their intention at all, and they did it in grand style.

Del Rio is such a perfect old-style heel and his celebration was so deliberately obnoxious that he needed to be confronted. Either Punk or Cena was going to do it......that it was Cena showed he's not abandoning his role as the top face in WWE anytime soon. Also, that this occurred in the last segment of the show seemed wholly appropriate because it's telling us exactly where we're being taken in the next few weeks.

Ending the show with Del Rio defeating and humiliating Rey Mysterio would have been decent, but adding Cena to the plot was both logical and exciting.

 

[Hulk Hogan's Brother]

I think that the ending to the Del Rio celebration segment was muh better and much more decisive. It left with giving the fans something to cheer about when Cena promised that Alberto's destiny would be to get his ass kicked by Cena.

Overall I liked Punk's verbal battle with Nash much more but the end was not as great as the end to Cena/ Del Rio. Punk told him that he would meet HHH backstage and seek some answers. He also stopped when the security hit the ring. That was not exactly a very babyface like thing to do. The end to the segment was intriguing and yet not as exciting as the end to the Cena/ Del Rio segment.

Apart from that as someone must have pointed out by now, Cena does not end every Raw. HHH and Vince ended Raw on the show after MITB, Punk performed his shoot promo three weeks before that. Besides I cannot see even why even the most blind Cena hater should complain because he wasn't even on the show till the last 10 minutes or so.

 

[Mr$intheBank]

Cena doesn't end every RAW and its not like he ends it himself with no one else. Cena closes RAW more often than anyone but that's because he is still the face of the company. Both Smackdown and Raw have to end with main eventers and for Raw its Cena, Punk, Rey, and now ADR. If it doesn't end with wrestling, it'll end in an important promo like we've seen over the past month or so.

He had to get involved somehow last night and he has nothing to do with the Kevin Nash, incident unless of course he won where as Nash was supposed to beatdown the winner.. For him, he was screwed by HHH's miscall and know he wants Alberto for the title. It should become a triple threat since CM Punk needs his rematch and Cena needs a rematch too because he was screwed. So I'm sure next week, they'll hopefully make that clear.

 

[LoudClearVoice]

I'm not a fan of the John Cena character however he's the top guy in the company on the top show so of course they want to end RAW with him. They used to do the same thing with the Rock and Stone Cold on RAW and more recently Smackdown always ended with Edge or Undertaker.

 

[Deadlysyns]

Okay so as most of you said John Cena should end most shows thats not what my problem is with the ending. My problem is the fact that John Cena is back in the title picture already like wtf seriously. He loses to Cm punk cuz of a bad Call but instead goes on to feud with Del Rio for The WWE title. now i hope seriously that Rey comes back and feuds with Del Rio but right now it looks like Cena will be feuding with Del Rio which is horrible.

 

[Deadlysyns]

Don't get me wrong Cena's Mic Work at the end was good. And i believe that with Rey Injured now Cena is the only Face on Raw well big true face lol But they need to keep him out of the title picture for awhile

 

[cp_24]

Cena ends every show.... One guy said that a few weeks back HHH and Vince ended the show but you know who was in there WITH them??? CENA!! C.M.Punk BEAT Cena at SS. I understand that Cena is the face, he needs to end RAW...blah blah....he's the chosen one....blah blah...the next savior of us all....Hustle loyalty..... i know i know. But at least put Punk in the last segment just to let us know that when Cena wins the title at the next Pay Per View he won't just walk all over ADR!! Like he will if it's just a 1 on 1. Cena make Alberto Del Rio look like a punk, like he doesn't deserve to win the championship...even though he won the 40-man Royal Rumble!! He said he's not a real Champion because he cashed in the MITB briefcase...... EVERYONE who cashed in the briefcase won the Championship!!... RVD, Edge, Miz, Kane...Guess they didn't deserve it either!!

 

[¡Roján!]

It totally makes sense for Cena to end every RAW. It makes everyone go home happy, simple as.
And, what else is Cena going to do? Cena V Albert was supposed to happen at Summerslam, but obviously the Punk angle delayed. Anyway, fastforward to now and what feud can Cena be in? The corporation angle? It'd become to much of a clusterfuck. A feud for the WWE title makes the most sense. And, 9 times out 10 the feud that concerns the title ends the show.

 

[TheGame]

I think the title match at the end was mainly down to Rey being in his hometown. Not to say I don't think Cena has had more than his fair share of the spotlight. Like someone else said as well ratings are about half what they were when Stone Cold & Rock were around. I think this is down to WWE having had no one capable of being on their level in terms of all round entertainment, the PG era, years of lazy booking, more competition from other forms of entertainment, etc.

Cena may have been the top draw for the last few years (and arguably still is) but is he as big a draw as some people think really? I'm not a big fan although I think he's raised his game recently. Will be interesting to see if he keeps up the high standards. I just kind of feel him being the biggest draw is more because of the way he's been (over) pushed for a sustained period than it is on his ability. I've never seen any mention of ratings drops when Cena's been injured in the past either which leads me to believe the current rating levels wouldn't be affected much without Cena in the main event or wrestling for the title every PPV.

Him constantly having or challenging for the title is one of the reasons a section of the fans hate him so much and it'll be a sad day to see him with more titles than Flair despite the damage he's currently doing to his own legacy. I personally would have liked to see Cena's last title reign stricken from the records (he did lose it to Punk after all). But looks like we've got Cena going for the belt again and if it's a straight one on one feud with ADR then I see another Cena reign coming in the next few months (although who knows as things have been more interesting and unpredictable as of late). Would be more interesting to have Cena doing something different or giving us a break altogether from him (even for a few months). Attitude Era did OK without Austin and/or Rock at times albeit mainly forced due to injuries, movies, etc.

With Punk I reckon it's too early to say what effect his push will have on ratings. At worst I think they'll stay the same, at best who knows. But will take time to draw back in people who have been driven away from wrestling over the years and depends how long they run with grittier storylines. Some of the mainstream interest that it's drawn can only be good though.

But really I don't think Cena being on last on last night's Raw was any indication that Punk's dropping back down the card or that they've lost any faith in him. Not to say Cena won't be appearing at the end of some Raw's over the next few months but pretty sure Punk will be just as much.

 

[H33LTurn]

And I said before that I will apologize and retract my statement if it is different next week but if RAW continues to close with Cena/Del Rio and HHH/Nash/Punk is in the middle of the show, it won't feel as such a big of a deal as Cena/Del Rio just because it has Cena.

No, see you're not getting it. Unless theres some huge revelation the HHH/Nash/Punk story is going to stay around the 10:00 pm spot. WWE has the most underrated champ right now and hes going to need all the main even exposure he needs.

 

[jmh1971nyr]

Nothing against Cena but yeah why was he shown again last night? Last time I check Punk is the number one contender! Last night should have been all about Del Rio at the end. Not have Cena back on. Im not an ADR fan at all but I am hoping he becomes entertaining. Last night would have been the perfect time for a new person to come in and stake their claim into the main event field (Tyler Reks who has been terribly used, Evan Bourne, hell even Zack Ryder). Even have the Miz make the save and make him a face. But yet again WWE can't change and went the safe route. People get sick of Cena because CENA is in almost every title match.

 

[Smooth Sexual Chocolate]

Obviously there's no use in getting upset over Cena closing out every single show; but the OP does make some good, and interesting points.

The reaction Punk received during his segment with Nash was something special, it wasn't just the IWC or the adults cheering for punk; but I could hear the women and children as well. Punks promo was captivating last night, he has everyone in the audience eating out of his hand. His jokes where funny, the content was serious and the promo was top notch; and it's not like San Diego was a smarky crowd, not in the least bit, they're all about Rey and Cena, which is why Punks reaction that he received was so important.

Last night was really the first time I saw a non smarky crowd get behind Punk, and it really did have a bit of that Austin feel to it, a comparison that I've personally been brushing behind the rug.

Cena will always be there closing out shows with cheese wiz infused promos, hustle, loyalty and a pay check; that's not changing anytime soon. Cena could be on Smackdown and he'd still be closing out Raw every single night; but with a little less pg and a little more Punk we may be on our way to a new era that involves less processed cheese.

 

[H33LTurn]

So jam more Cena to bring it up? People boo him for a reason. Not because he isn't a hard worker. He's booed because people are sick of him. Nothing against the guy but every PPV is the same, Cena for the belt. At this point does he really need a belt? Give others a shot!

Yes, because Cena can help ADR get over. What better way to get someone over than have him work with the most popular person in the company. Who said that just because hes in the main event hes gonna get the belt. ADR is champ, Punk was champ, Miz was champ, and Sheamus was champion when Cena was around. You realize all there people have become 10 times more relevant after feuding with Cena, right? Thats the point.

 

[jmh1971nyr]

Yes, because Cena can help ADR get over. What better way to get someone over than have him work with the most popular person in the company. Who said that just because hes in the main event hes gonna get the belt. ADR is champ, Punk was champ, Miz was champ, and Sheamus was champion when Cena was around. You realize all there people have become 10 times more relevant after feuding with Cena, right? Thats the point.

Thats BECAUSE CENA HAS BEEN SHOVED down everyone's throat. I mean he showed in SS he can't even be pinned cleanly. Such a HH attitude. And the funny thing about all the above names is THEY carried their matches with him. I disagree, Punk was "relevant" before he and Cena mixed it up. He became "relevant" when he had his heel turn and beat Hardy. Only reason he didn't keep the belt longer is due to backstage politics and pissing off the wrong person in the SD locker room.