Daniel Bryan..Yes, Man

[Kizzani]

I was going to hold my thoughts aside but so much of the QQ and Baby crap has made me come back to do what I do and that is run down the morons especially Mark Madden. Madden thinks because he played a part in wrestling he has all the knowledge....Well Mark TNA is going under take so of your weak dollars and go buy into it and show the world how much you know.

This is a quote from Moron Madden:
Here’s what should have happened: Bryan loses to Bray Wyatt in the opening match of the Royal Rumble PPV. Bryan wins the Rumble. Bryan wins the WWE title at ‘Mania. Wyatt is a ready-made challenger by way of having beaten Bryan.

Every month people complain about WWE being Predictable, Reading quote above, is WHAT EVERYONE EXPECTED TO HAPPENED......Now the WWE decided to make a slight swerve people are all up in arms.

D Bry has a lot of talent and should be a world champion again some day, but he is viewed like that of rey Misterio. He doesn't fit the classic build, but that will not stop him.

I want people to think back to Zach Ryder. Oh yeah I am going there. All the interent marks, morons and clown shoes BEG, Pleaded and screamed that this Long Island Loser needs more TV time, Then he got it and guess what happened fans realized that he had less talent then Cena has in a single big toe. When the fans realized they had made a huge mistake they got quiet....real quiet. Now who is still around begging for Long Island iced Boring? NO ONE.

D Bryan is on the same path (With the Exception of having mad talent and even better skills) The fans cheer him for whatever reason they choose and if the WWE see fit to remove him from some of the biggest events to see it the POP falters then this is Business.

Unless anyone out there is running their own Mutli-Million dollar company then honestly you have no room to talk. WWE has been doing this forever and unlike TNA, WWC, SWW, OVW and the rest they maintain the top spot.

If Daniel Bryan Disappeared tomorrow you would miss him, but in a few month you would find a new wrestler to cheer for.

 

[Best in the World]

Every month people complain about WWE being Predictable, Reading quote above, is WHAT EVERYONE EXPECTED TO HAPPENED......Now the WWE decided to make a slight swerve people are all up in arms.

The thing about the Royal Rumble match, is usually the winner is kind of predictable, thinking back, I can only think of a few occasion where I was actually shocked by the Royal Rumble winner. As with this Royal Rumble, their was no swerve honestly, everyone going in knew Batista was going to win, and people hated that fact. Sure Bryan winning would be predictable, but so would Batista. So would Austin (excluding the first time), so would Benoit, so would Rock, but it didn't matter, even though it was predictable, people loved it and cheered the hell out of it, because that was what they wanted to see, that was who they wanted to win. In this case, Batista was definitely not the lesser-of-two-evils, in fact, everyone knew he was going to win before he was even in the Royal Rumble, and when Bryan didn't come out people wasted little time in booing the heck out of him. In the end, Reigns became the lesser-of-two evils, though of course no one knew he would win, but they wanted him to.

D Bryan is on the same path (With the Exception of having mad talent and even better skills) The fans cheer him for whatever reason they choose and if the WWE see fit to remove him from some of the biggest events to see it the POP falters then this is Business.

Unless anyone out there is running their own Mutli-Million dollar company then honestly you have no room to talk. WWE has been doing this forever and unlike TNA, WWC, SWW, OVW and the rest they maintain the top spot.

I don't run my own multi-million dollar company, don't have a job in booking, the most experience I have in the wrestling industry is through DVD's, shows (both watching and going) and what I hear through interviews, in the end that makes me a fan and I get that. I don't have a sense-of-entitlement, I don't want WWE to do what I want them to do, I want them to do what they want to do, because I'm paying them money to do it, I'm paying for what I'm getting.

But I don't see much wrong with it really, I mean sometimes it can get irksome "WWE should do this because I want this to happen.", I get that, but at that same time, I don't see anything wrong with voicing displeasure about something, or saying what they "shoulda, woulda, coulda" done. I mean if you're just stating it, then yeah, it really doesn't bother me, if I agree with it, disagree with it, it's whatever, but it leaves room for discussion on the subject. We do have a voice, we as fans have a voice, we cheer, boo, chant for whoever we want, we pay to do that, I don't see the problem in criticism, as long as you don't have this sense-of-entitlement that the WWE should do only what you want them to do because you pay them to (which isn't the case at all, and trust, I've seen this kind of mindset before), we just pay to see what they do and watch who we want to watch.

In the end, despite that semi-long wall of text, I do get what you're saying though. But I don't find much wrong with criticism if you don't feel entitled.

If Daniel Bryan Disappeared tomorrow you would miss him, but in a few month you would find a new wrestler to cheer for.

Kind of sad, but this is true, and I don't think anyone could deny the fact. If he left or was released, and didn't come back, more than likely people would get over it in time and as soon forget him time in WWE, and soon enough they would be cheering like crazy for whoever else was presented to them. It's happen to a few greats who were in the WWE, who people thought could be great, but now only have their names pop up from time to time (Shelton Benjamin).

But, that's only in terms of WWE, some might follow him to wherever he went, and I would be one of them, most definitely, but that's because of how long I've watch Bryan and been a fan of his, I'm willing to follow him out and watch him somewhere else, but most might not choose that option of have the sources to do so.

 

[Eyebrows]

The Bryan situation is a lot different to the Ryder situation for a couple of reasons. Firstly, Ryder had a one-dimensional gimmick and it was the sort of gimmick that has a short shelf life. Secondly, it pretty much was just the IWC who wanted Ryder. He got his popularity through the internet and parlayed it into more screen time. Bryan is different. Of course, all us guys in the IWC, (of which I consider myself part of...I don't get why it has to be such a negative label or why people who come to post on a wrestling message board pretend they aren't part of it) want him but it isn't just that. Bryan has earned his popularity on the brands flagship show. He earned the support of the 'casual fan'. Those thousands and thousands of people chanting his names at the shows are not all people who talk about wrestling on the internet. Also, Bryan was over as soon as he got fired during the Nexus angle. Ryder was never as over as that.

I don't think there was anything about Batista winning that you would consider a swerve. Everybody knew it was happening. They hoped it wouldn't, but they knew it would.

Even if you think Bryan winning would have been equally as obvious that isn't always a bad thing. Sometimes the simplest booking philosophy is the one that works. Bryan could easily have had a hard road to 'Mania even if he'd won the Rumble with beatdowns etc. Sometimes the obvious route is the right route. Russo used to try and be unpredictable and only ended up being convoluted a lot of the time.

Do you know what the most predictable but most successful and engaging basic storyline has been in wrestling? The underdog face defying the odds and finally winning in the face of adversity. Why do you think Cena is so successful? Despite how many people he beats his core fanbase still buys into the underdog story. Austin was so successful because he had the Chairman throwing everything at him to stop him. When Benoit won in 04 he was portrayed as the underdog fighting against Heyman. It was obvious from the build he would win but that didn't stop the fans cheering it when it happened.

They still might have Bryan do that. I don't think this has been a work all along, I think that's something a lot of people say to make themselves look like they're so much smarter than everybody, but I do think the RR made them notice. Whether they change their plans or not remains to be seen but the build to WM would have been fantastic with a true underdog babyface winning the Rumble.

 

[Logisticalbooker86]

Comparing Daniel Bryan to Zack Ryder is like comparing apples to feces. Your argument holds no water, and is almost not worth responding to.

Daniel Bryan defeated John Cena clean at SummerSlam 2013. Then, he was screwed out of the title by the authority. Zack Ryder has never headlined anything, and was never seen as a legitimate option at the top by anyone. Even the biggest Ryder mark would have to admit that.

Daniel Bryan consistently puts on great matches and has the fans behind him. Ryder was an extended flavor of the month by stumbling onto a fad on YouTube. The two are not even comparable.

 

[wrestler36]

I don't think fans turned against Ryder. His merchandise sold 2nd behind Cena for awhile. He was getting huge pops until he was buried. I disagree with him being gone and forgotten after awhile too. Look what happened when he first was released. Fans kept on talking until he was brought back for Summerslam. Fans have the opportunity to voice who they want to see and we absolutely LOVE DBry.

They had to call an audible before Raw because their face ended up winning the Rumble but got booed out of the building. I think Madden's points are very credible because he grew up during an era where there were several successful wrestling territories that gave entertaining shows week in and week out.

 

[LSN80]

This is a quote from Moron Madden:
Here’s what should have happened: Bryan loses to Bray Wyatt in the opening match of the Royal Rumble PPV. Bryan wins the Rumble. Bryan wins the WWE title at ‘Mania. Wyatt is a ready-made challenger by way of having beaten Bryan.

He's right. That's great, smart booking. Sometimes being predictable isn't a bad thing. In this case, it's not. The hottest talent in the company against a once-in-a-lifetime heel. Even if it is predictable, how is that a bad thing?

Every month people complain about WWE being Predictable, Reading quote above, is WHAT EVERYONE EXPECTED TO HAPPENED......Now the WWE decided to make a slight swerve people are all up in arms.

Who did they swerve, exactly? I was at the Rumble, and we knew Batista was going to win the Rumble. Did you watch the show? The boos were palpable, and then the arena completely deflated when Bryan wasn't in the Rumble. But to suggest there was a swerve here is rediculous. You're posting on a wrestling forum that for weeks has been reporting Batista as the winner of the Rumble. How was that a swerve, exactly?

D Bry has a lot of talent and should be a world champion again some day, but he is viewed like that of rey Misterio. He doesn't fit the classic build, but that will not stop him.

In your eyes, maybe, but Mysterio's push was in large part due to the death of Eddie Guerrero. Had EG not died, Rey may very likely never have advanced beyond the upper mid-card. Need proof? Look at his first World Title run. He was beaten week after week in non-title matches, got a PPV win over JBL, then lost the title to Booker T. His other title runs were for 3 weeks and 2 hours, respectively. They may have similarities, size wise, but Mysterio was never over in the manner that Bryan is, nor was he ever involved in a Main Event program the way Bryan has been.

I want people to think back to Zach Ryder. Oh yeah I am going there. All the interent marks, morons and clown shoes BEG, Pleaded and screamed that this Long Island Loser needs more TV time, Then he got it and guess what happened fans realized that he had less talent then Cena has in a single big toe. When the fans realized they had made a huge mistake they got quiet....real quiet. Now who is still around begging for Long Island iced Boring? NO ONE.

Apples and oranges. One question, then I'll leave this one alone. When was there ever a time where an entire PPV was taken over by the fan's desire for one man? Did that happen to Ryder? Were people pushing for him to win, or rather, even be in main event programs?

Bryan is everything Ryder was not: A great character who puts on fantastic matches, has excellent mic skills and a great attitude, regardless of the adversity put in his path. None of that can be said about Ryder.

D Bryan is on the same path (With the Exception of having mad talent and even better skills) The fans cheer him for whatever reason they choose and if the WWE see fit to remove him from some of the biggest events to see it the POP falters then this is Business.

WWE did remove him from one of their biggest events, cochise. They left him out of the Royal Rumble. Did the pop falter, or did us fans chant for him, then boo everything else because he was excluded?

I'll wait while you find the Rumble online and see one of the most popular wrestlers in the company, Rey Mysterio, get booed out of the building because he wasn't Daniel Bryan.

Unless anyone out there is running their own Mutli-Million dollar company then honestly you have no room to talk. WWE has been doing this forever and unlike TNA, WWC, SWW, OVW and the rest they maintain the top spot.

No room to talk? What happened to the first Amendment? What happened about being able to voice opinions about likes and dislikes?

I can't stand Taylor Swift's music. Great talent, excellent performer, seems like a sweet kid. Her album was up for Record of The Year at the Grammy's. Does that mean, because the Academy says so, that I have no right to say I don't like Taylor Swift's music because they know more than me?

It's a concept of free speech, and voicing an opinion. You just did it here, and now you're telling people they have no right to do it. Can you not see the hypocrisy here?

If Daniel Bryan Disappeared tomorrow you would miss him, but in a few month you would find a new wrestler to cheer for.

I'm not sure how this is relevant. And it would depend on context, that is, the reason he disapeared. If it was a career ending injury, youre right. People move on. They did from Edge.

But have you seen the pops he's(Edge) received for making appearances in a non-wrestling capacity? And he disapears for months on end. If this happened with Bryan, the situation would be the same.

Bryan has become a once-in-a-generation superstar. WWE is burning money if they don't keep him involved in Main Event programs, and WM doesn't go off the air with him holding the WWE WHC, and the fans chanting YES in unison.

 

[Messiah]

Great thread. I've been trying to tell people this for 2 days. They don't listen, all they want is Bryan as Champ.. Fan reaction is one thing, but he's not a larger than life persona, That's HUGE in WWE... If i walked into a bar and Daniel Bryan was there i probably wouldn't notice him, and i'm a wrestling fan for God sake.. Bryan looks like anyone in that company or on the street can whoop his ass. WWE doesn't want someone like that as Champion.. He has so much talent, he just doesn't look like a star.. Fucking get it people, it's not rocket science.

 

[prestonluv]

If Daniel Bryan Disappeared tomorrow you would miss him, but in a few month you would find a new wrestler to cheer for.

I have been a wrestling fan for over 30 years. The only wrestlers i have marked out for like DB are Hulk Hogan, The Rock, Stone Cold, and CM Punk a few years back.

DB is one of the more over wrestlers in the last 30 years. So yes...if he left than we would find ourselves cheering for other wrestlers. But..those cheers would be nowhere near what myself and others give to Bryan currently.

The WWE has not had a wrestler this over as a face since the turn of the century. Cena has always been over but more as a tweener the last 3-4 years.

What some people do not understand is that the WWE will never lose us dorks as wrestling fans. But, if they do not listen to the fans they will lose the casual fan. DB might be the best thing that could of happened to the E since there is no competition around. The rise of a wrestler that is so organic that they must change their booking so they don't look like complete morons.

We shall see what happens.

 

[Nikeo]

I don't really watch WWE, though I do keep up with the results from time to time. As such, I'm aware of the basic concept of Bryan's storyline: that he's not allowed to be "The Guy" because he doesn't fit the mold.

The reason Bryan wasn't in the Rumble was to further that story. The end.

It's actually quite an ingenious way of having the fans chomping at the bit for Bryan to get his 'Mania title victory. A lot of "smart" fans like to think they're above getting "worked" so to speak, which is preposterous. When you read the comments left on forums and news sites by DB fans you can tell just how emotionally involved they are in his push/storyline. WWE is playing up to this fact and are making you feel like the 'Mania title show isn't going to happen. It is.

What's more perfect to perpetuate this story than having THE stereotypical WWE guy, Batista, in the mix? It's going to be Batista/Orton/Bryan for the strap - the only thing I'm not sure of is if they plan to turn Batista heel to achieve this.

In conclusion, DB fans, please stop complaining. The WWE may not always give the fans what they want exactly when they want it, they may make you wait a long time for it and they may even make it seem like you're not going to get it.....but you will. Don't think you're above being "worked".

 

[enviousdominous]

I was going to hold my thoughts aside but so much of the QQ and Baby crap has made me come back to do what I do and that is run down the morons especially Mark Madden. Madden thinks because he played a part in wrestling he has all the knowledge....Well Mark TNA is going under take so of your weak dollars and go buy into it and show the world how much you know.

Easy there killer. I personally show my lack of appreciation for the writings of Mark Madden, and morons like him, by not reading them. I don't see what your stated opinion of him, (ugh) and morons like him, has to do with anything if you lace every reference to him with an insult. Keep it concise, m'kay?

This is a quote from Moron Madden:
Here’s what should have happened: Bryan loses to Bray Wyatt in the opening match of the Royal Rumble PPV. Bryan wins the Rumble. Bryan wins the WWE title at ‘Mania. Wyatt is a ready-made challenger by way of having beaten Bryan.

Moron Madden, cute. I personally don't see anything wrong with his booking strategy, and the only argument you're making in regard to it is the fact that your creativity only goes as far as associating "mark" with "moron. If you have a point to make, fucking make it. You'd seem more intelligent if you just went with ad hominem and maybe swept your postings for typos.

Every month people complain about WWE being Predictable, Reading quote above, is WHAT EVERYONE EXPECTED TO HAPPENED......Now the WWE decided to make a slight swerve people are all up in arms.

Umm, okay. You're upset because you, and whatever running crew you associate with, had your card predictions messed up by Batista's winning the Royal Rumble, and you're upset that other people are upset because of this? Whew, you're just a rotten little onion. Okay, breaking down the layers of your spaz attack, I think you're just pulling at straws to have a good rant online and abuse your caps lock.

D Bry has a lot of talent and should be a world champion again some day, but he is viewed like that of rey Misterio. He doesn't fit the classic build, but that will not stop him.

What...does...this...have...to...do...with...the...thread? Your paragraph just earned a big "NO SHIT" chant from undiscovered tribes untouched by modern society.

I want people to think back to Zach Ryder. Oh yeah I am going there. All the interent marks, morons and clown shoes BEG, Pleaded and screamed that this Long Island Loser needs more TV time, Then he got it and guess what happened fans realized that he had less talent then Cena has in a single big toe. When the fans realized they had made a huge mistake they got quiet....real quiet. Now who is still around begging for Long Island iced Boring? NO ONE.

Alrighty, after complimenting Daniel Bryan you're suggesting that he might be just another obnoxious fad like Zack Ryder because of idiot fans. I think the deeper meaning of that paragraph is a desperate attempt to talk shit in a manner that suggests that you have a higher perspective than most people. People tweeted that they wanted more Zack Ryder at one time, sure. Now that he's proven he can't hang, the fans are supposed to send you apologies for that? I can guarantee that while band-wagon jumpers might make up a huge portion of Daniel Bryan's fan base, their faith isn't going to be taken for granted. Have an alka-setlzer.

D Bryan is on the same path (With the Exception of having mad talent and even better skills) The fans cheer him for whatever reason they choose and if the WWE see fit to remove him from some of the biggest events to see it the POP falters then this is Business.

Now we get to the real point of this thread. You're saying "tough nuts!" to anyone who thinks that not using Daniel Bryan for the top spots is a worthy reason for being upset. You just pissed away twenty minutes of your life venting on a message board that might reach a few hundred people if only to prove that you're a living contradiction. You're upset at the reasoning of a group of people for being upset, never mind the fact that this has all been a petty means of floating your own ego.

Unless anyone out there is running their own Mutli-Million dollar company then honestly you have no room to talk. WWE has been doing this forever and unlike TNA, WWC, SWW, OVW and the rest they maintain the top spot.

Okay, you know what you're doing here kid? You're lumping every fan who's ever booed at a lack of using Daniel Bryan to their expectations into a category of "thinks they could book a better show". If the fans prefer Daniel Bryan's fast paced puroresu style of constant stiff spots with a few surprising twists in the middle, they will cheer for his style and boo most other styles. They might hop online and pinch off a few stupid opinions in regard to the matter, sure, but you've proven that anyone on either side of the argument is capable of that. It's the information age if you haven't noticed, the only people with "no room to talk" are mutes without an internet connection. You honestly just discredited your entire post by suggesting the only people who should be allowed to have an opinion on proper booking are those that actually run a generic multimillion dollar company. When your company hits the fortune 500, let me know alright.

If Daniel Bryan Disappeared tomorrow you would miss him, but in a few month you would find a new wrestler to cheer for.

That's honestly one of the most fucking stupid statements I've ever read online, there has to be some kind of award for that. Look kid, fans cheer for a variety of wrestlers. We don't need to be told that we'd cheer for someone else in the absence of a favorite and that moronic wisdom that you so proudly shared doesn't discredit our adoration for Daniel Bryan.

 

[thebarber]

Pointless thread, the whole world realises how OVER Daniel Bryan is, WWE aren't idiots, they will use this to further develop the story of Underdog Bryan. Hopefully this will culminate at Wrestlemania with the underdog getting his due.
Batista was always winning the Rumble, they made that pretty clear six days out. But how Vince could possibly want to see Wrestlemania XXX main event possibly be shat on by 70,000 live fans and millionsa round the world by booking Batista in the main event.....have Brock Lesnar defeat Batista at EC, with the shot at the main event on the line. Wrestlemania XXX headlined by Brock Lesnar vs whomever the champion is, will be much better.

 

[Kizzani]

He's right. That's great, smart booking. Sometimes being predictable isn't a bad thing. In this case, it's not. The hottest talent in the company against an once-in-a-lifetime heel. Even if it is predictable, how is that a bad thing?

If he is so right and the ideas of his are so great.....Why is he doing a radio show versus running his own company or even booking for one. They don't want him; he thinks he knows too much. Nothing is worst that a guy who thinks he knows everything about everything.

Who did they swerve, exactly? I was at the Rumble, and we knew Batista was going to win the Rumble. Did you watch the show? The boos were palpable, and then the arena completely deflated when Bryan wasn't in the Rumble. But to suggest there was a swerve here is ridiculous. You're posting on a wrestling forum that for weeks has been reporting Batista as the winner of the Rumble. How was that a swerve, exactly?

I laugh when I see these types of comments; take the blinders off for a second and process. As soon as Bray Wyatt beat D bry clean, EVERYONE expected D Bry to win the Royal Rumble. Just look at twitter and other social media. THE IWC spoke loud and clear that they were sure D bry was going to win the Rumble.

It wasn't until Number 30 was called and no D Bry came out did everyone known Batista was going to win. This is why everyone is so pissed. Don't admit it at all that is fine you can't lie to yourself.

In your eyes, maybe, but Mysterio's push was in large part due to the death of Eddie Guerrero. Had EG not died, Rey may very likely never have advanced beyond the upper mid-card. Need proof? Look at his first World Title run. He was beaten week after week in non-title matches, got a PPV win over JBL, and then lost the title to Booker T. His other title runs were for 3 weeks and 2 hours, respectively. They may have similarities, size wise, but Mysterio was never over in the manner that Bryan is, nor was he ever involved in a Main Event program the way Bryan has been.

The question here is why? Does Rey not get a pop, does his mech not sell or is it because he is a small guy in a company of giants? You take your pick. I am going with the same reason D Bry is held out...Short, small, and oddly bearded. Good thing is in America everyone has a right to their opinions no matter how wrong they are.

Moron Madden, cute. I personally don't see anything wrong with his booking strategy, and the only argument you're making in regard to it is the fact that your creativity only goes as far as associating "mark" with "moron. If you have a point to make, fucking make it. You'd seem more intelligent if you just went with ad hominem and maybe swept your postings for typos.

So instead of sticking to the important part you thought hey let's smash him because of his typos. I made my point Madden is a joke radio announcer who thinks he has all the right answers but doesn't build his own muti-million dollar company. If I knew all the lotto number, I would play the lotto. Unless his weak radio show is grossing 31.43 million (which is what WWE grossed 2012) the why not go make big money.

Umm, okay. You're upset because you, and whatever running crew you associate with, had your card predictions messed up by Batista's winning the Royal Rumble and you're upset that other people are upset because of this? Whew, you're just a rotten little onion. Okay, breaking down the layers of your spaz attack, I think you're just pulling at straws to have a good rant online and abuse your caps lock.

Does it make you feel big to run down other people....That is a shame Mark Madden. I don't predict wrestling winners (why? IT IS STAGED) why would I try and pick a winner when it is already set in stone (less Hart v Shawn) I don't have a YouTube channel, I don't review shows, damn I haven't even posted here for at least 8 months. I wanted Bray Wyatt to win, but he never showed, I also wanted Kofi to win (but WWE doesn't have African American champions, the rock is Samoan and Canadian). I want people to win I don't predict pre written storyline.

It is obvious so many people don't know there WWE history....It was stated how the same thing happened to Stone Cold, Rey, Punk. But they all won the rumble. Look at it from a common sense stand point if every authority puts the guy they want to hold down in the rumble and every time they win, common sense says don't repeat that step and they didn't just to piss the fans off and to see what D bry does next....I think they call that a hook to get you to tune into the next show.....AND YOU DID.

Please keep telling me how pointless my thread is by your responses….it is hilarious.

 

[Gibby]

It should be pointed out to people who haven't realised it - that nobody who wrestled on the Rumble undercard (not counting pre-show) participated in the Rumble itself. It is testament to the overness of Bryan that people should clamour for his inclusion when Wyatt, Lesnar, Show or Cena were not included either.

If D-Bry wasn't around I would definitely miss him. By a million miles he's my favourite current worker that I can flip on and see on my TV. If I couldn't do that I would sometimes find other things to do (or alternatively, not subscribe to the network).

 

[LSN80]

If he is so right and the ideas of his are so great.....Why is he doing a radio show versus running his own company or even booking for one. They don't want him; he thinks he knows too much. Nothing is worst that a guy who thinks he knows everything about everything.

You mean, doing the top rated radio show in his timeslot in all of Western Pennsylvania? Madden is the king of radio in Pittsburgh, which is a huge market. Perhaps I should have included my location here, but I live in Pittsburgh, so I know what I'm talking about. Madden isn't just a wrestling afficienado, he also coaches youth hockey and is known as the premiere expert on all things Penguins hockey. He's respected for that knowledge that he's cultivated throughout a lifetime of doing a masogynistic schtick on radio that is extremely popular, while being credible at the same time.

Call it a know-it-all attitude, I look at it as one man's opinion that's spot on here. As for the reason Madden is in radio and not in wrestling, he was, with WCW, as a color commetator. When he left WCW, the WWF expressed interest, but told him quitting his radio show would be manadatory.

He said no. He turned the WWF down.

I laugh when I see these types of comments; take the blinders off for a second and process. As soon as Bray Wyatt beat D bry clean, EVERYONE expected D Bry to win the Royal Rumble. Just look at twitter and other social media. THE IWC spoke loud and clear that they were sure D bry was going to win the Rumble.

Everyone? I didn't, and neither did any of the people sitting near my wife and I. I expected him to be in the Rumble, but the reports have been out there for weeks that Batista was to win the Rumble. Where you're confused is this: The IWC spoke about what they wanted to see happen, not what they believed would happen.

The belief was that he would be in the Rumble, the what was that he would win it. Two different things.

It wasn't until Number 30 was called and no D Bry came out did everyone known Batista was going to win. This is why everyone is so pissed. Don't admit it at all that is fine you can't lie to yourself.

I'm not. I say this as humbly as I can: I'm quite respected as being one of the most honest people on this forum, and one of its most respected moderators. I'm sure there were plenty of people who were pissed Bryan didn't win the Rumble, and some may have believed he would. I wasn't among them, I fully believed Batista would win.

I was upset he wasn't in the Rumble, and didn't get the chance to compete. Even if he was screwed like CM Punk was, or Batista tossed him, my frustration was that he wasn't even given the chance to competer while El Torito, Kevin Nash, and JBL were.

The question here is why? Does Rey not get a pop, does his mech not sell or is it because he is a small guy in a company of giants? You take your pick.

Rey has had great success, he's a three-time World Champion. But he was never featured as prominently as Bryan, and he was certainly never protected the way Bryan is.

Why? He's a man behind a mask. He's not a great promo, and he's always been incredibly injury-prone. Bryan, as he showed on Monday, is an outstanding promo, and he's durable as heck.

The comparison between Rey and Bryan simply doesn't hold.

I am going with the same reason D Bry is held out...Short, small, and oddly bearded. Good thing is in America everyone has a right to their opinions no matter how wrong they are.

Bryan was held out of the Rumble, but to say he's being "held out" is laughable. When did Rey main event a non-brand exclusive PPV(looking back to 2006 and before)? Bryan main-evented Summerslam 2013 and pinned John Cena clean. Main....Evented.....Summerslam......Pinned....Cena.....Clean.

When has Rey ever done anything remoted close to that? In fact, when he won the WWE Title for the first and only time, Cena took it from him an hour later, clean.

Wyatt was the first guy to beat Bryan clean in single's competition since Summerslam 2013. Tell me how, for the most part, he's being held out again?

Please keep telling me how pointless my thread is by your responses….it is hilarious.

It's not a pointless thread, it's nice to see someone with a different opinion voice it loud and clear.

Even when they're 100% wrong.

 

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Great thread. I've been trying to tell people this for 2 days. They don't listen, all they want is Bryan as Champ.. Fan reaction is one thing, but he's not a larger than life persona, That's HUGE in WWE... If i walked into a bar and Daniel Bryan was there i probably wouldn't notice him, and i'm a wrestling fan for God sake.. Bryan looks like anyone in that company or on the street can whoop his ass. WWE doesn't want someone like that as Champion.. He has so much talent, he just doesn't look like a star.. Fucking get it people, it's not rocket science.

Isn't that part of his appeal, though? I think that a large part of Daniel Bryan's appeal is that he is incredibly easy to relate to from the average fans perspective and that can go a long way in creating a star. Cena relates to fans because he is an honest, hard-working guy who never says die. Hogan appealed to standardized American ideals. However, size-wise, these dudes ARE, literally, larger than life. I'm about the same size as Daniel Bryan and, for some deep-seeded, subconscious reason, the fact that we are comparable aesthetically makes me root for him more. I think you're way off base here as far as what "people" want (generalizing is also silly).

We can all surmise that what WWE wants is a larger than life persona with a body to fit the bill, but times have changed. Daniel Bryan is an "everyman" who never quits and takes on all challengers. A veritable David to the WWE's Goliath. I think that, with WWE behind him and a focused approach to exploit this by creative, Bryan could be one of the most successful David's we've seen in WWE.

Side-note: Folks, I know this isn't a forum on Mensa's website, but if you're going to start a thread, please try not to write like a four year-old. Bust apart stereotypes!

Bonus side-note: To Kizzani, your point about people tuning in after bemoaning Bryan's absence from the Rumble is lame. Hypothetically, if they did go with Bryan (the "predictable" winner), would you have tuned out? We're all wrestling fans here. Just because we hated the direction of one PPV, we're supposed to jump ship? And if we don't, we somehow lack integrity? I love baseball. When Joe Girardi goes with a guy from the bullpen who I think is the wrong choice and then said pitcher blows the game, what, I'm supposed to hate the Yankees? Jesus, dude. Get a grip.