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Another thing I noticed, and I'm sure i'm grasping for straws with this one, but that whole segment with the NXT rookies attacking John Cena does not work on WWE.com It says page not found. Don't you think WWE would want the main segment ending RAW to be able to be viewed? Maybe cuz they wanted to edit out Daniel's attack on Roberts?

Again, I'm probably jsut grasping for straws here, and it's probably just a link error. But just thought I would point that out.
 
The whole angle is lame. It's all a work, shock tv doesn't work anymore folks. All you WWE marks were saying it themselves two weeks ago about TNA and it still doesn't work two weeks later in WWE.
 
We need the Raw crowds to chant "Danielson", just like they chanted "Hardy" for Matt Hardy. But we all know the little kiddies are oblivious. I urge anybody going to an event, chant your heart out for Danielson.
 
oh my, what a suspendable thing to do..choke someone with a tie!! good thing they didn't hit him with a chair, he could go to jail. PG kids swallowing their daily dose of WWE bull. WWE's pulling out all the stops while TNA keeps announcing moves that will change the wrestling world. Perhaps Bischoff and Dixie do shit like this to get a reaction out of Vince, leading WWE to shake up their PG formula just in case, and then Bischoff and Dixie ultimately have nothing but a huge chuckle at how worked up they can get the WWE.
 
Another thing I noticed, and I'm sure i'm grasping for straws with this one, but that whole segment with the NXT rookies attacking John Cena does not work on WWE.com It says page not found. Don't you think WWE would want the main segment ending RAW to be able to be viewed? Maybe cuz they wanted to edit out Daniel's attack on Roberts?

Again, I'm probably jsut grasping for straws here, and it's probably just a link error. But just thought I would point that out.

I just looked and the link is infact broken.
However when I loaded up the player there was a working link to the video at the bottom.
http://www.wwe.com/content/media/video/vms/raw/2010/june8-14/14688760

The pictures are still up including Danielson's kick to Cena's head.

However to make things more confusing the first link I clicked on
http://www.wwe.com/shows/raw/videos/14614598/ doesn't even have the video listed. Yet this link does
http://www.wwe.com/shows/raw/videos/

I'm guessing (and unfortunately thinking) WWE asked the webmasters to remove or hide the video for now and did a shitty job.
 
You people are really gullable if you believe the man was fired because his actions were too harsh, you're being ridiculous. Bryan Danielson chokes the ring announcer who will most likely be back in one piece next Monday and it leads to his release because it was too violent. But John Cena can toss Batista off a car and though the stage, thus (storyline) placing him in a wheelchair and incredibly battered. He's still here. Unless he pulled a "Randy Savage" or something of that level back stage, there would be no way in hell Vince McMahon would waste 4 months of build on one guy and just toss him off because of a tie.

NXT is build around realism. It blurs the line of kayfabe.
 
Long time visitor but this is my first post.
I tend to think this is a work. There are several factors most of which have been named already. One thing that I haven't seen mentioned though is the Cena factor. Think about it. Do you really think they would let him spit in the face of cena and then fire him without cena getting his revenge first? Typically if cena is wronged they use it to setup a storyline where he gets revenge on the bad guy/heel that wronged him. I doubt WWE is gonna let Bryan's lasting image in the company be spitting in the face of their top star who was unable to do anything about it.
 
You people are really gullable if you believe the man was fired because his actions were too harsh, you're being ridiculous. Bryan Danielson chokes the ring announcer who will most likely be back in one piece next Monday and it leads to his release because it was too violent. But John Cena can toss Batista off a car and though the stage, thus (storyline) placing him in a wheelchair and incredibly battered. He's still here. Unless he pulled a "Randy Savage" or something of that level back stage, there would be no way in hell Vince McMahon would waste 4 months of build on one guy and just toss him off because of a tie.

NXT is build around realism. It blurs the line of kayfabe.

I just read from another site that it has been confirmed that he is gone. It stated that WWE had banned all choking segments in the company because of the Chris Benoit tragedy. I don't know if I can post the article or link, but that was what was said.
 
Damn 29 pages. All basically confirming that either WWE is doing a hell of a job getting us to talk or they dropped the ball once again. But yeah i'll say this again, the original post by me was titled "Daniel Bryan Release" an owner or mod changed the title. I in no way think it was over the choking with the tie.
 
This Bryan Danielson NXT stuff is getting old. It had potential the first week or two but now Vince has gone and screwed it up just like everything before because this is too much like NWO or something TNA would do. You know every single thing that WWE tries to do to compete with TNA is sad. Having John Cena beat down like that is a lame attempt to win over TNA viewers with swerve TV and no one's buying into it. WWE really is nothing more than a few old guys that should like Shawn Michaels and Batista hang em up already like Cripple H, Underwanker, Y2Boring, etc, etc. At least TNA has a better crop of newer superstars to combat the likes of Sheamus and Ted Dibiase Jr. Who really wants to see 64 year old Vinnie Mac do his pathetic old routine, Bret Hart has wore out his welcome. The only thing WWE has going for it is the hot women. They don't have The Pope, A.J., or Black Machismo. They don't have the coolest wrestlers of all time, The Band, who as far as I'm concerned can loiter my tv screen as long as that World Championship belt control freak Cripple H is till their 100 years of age.

Anyway, my point is WWE just makes really lame attempts at trying to shock fans for ratings and their half year test run at building fan base has failed, obviously, and they should really just quit and go away and leave TNA alone and let them do their thing.
And I say this because I'm an objective fan who watches both with no allegiance and I am in no way a TNA hack. lol.
 
One thing i just remembered in regards to the whole tie choking thing. Doesn't Christian do that move when he stands on the opponents back while they're hanging on the ropes?? Is that not a choke move? Just saying....
 
You people are really gullable if you believe the man was fired because his actions were too harsh, you're being ridiculous. Bryan Danielson chokes the ring announcer who will most likely be back in one piece next Monday and it leads to his release because it was too violent. But John Cena can toss Batista off a car and though the stage, thus (storyline) placing him in a wheelchair and incredibly battered. He's still here. Unless he pulled a "Randy Savage" or something of that level back stage, there would be no way in hell Vince McMahon would waste 4 months of build on one guy and just toss him off because of a tie.

NXT is build around realism. It blurs the line of kayfabe.

but that's the problem. To the casual fan that doesn't really look at the news would already believe that they were all released except for Wade Barrett. He didn't win a contract. Just like several stars (Matt Hardy, Chris Jericho, The Miz, Gowen, Colin Delany..) who are on tv frequently, but "don't have a contract" to a brand or WWE in general. Take Colin Delany for example.. lets say he lost a contract match on ECW. Then three or four days later he gets into an argument with HHH backstage that causes him to be legitimately terminated immediately sparking WWE.com to plug his release. Wouldn't that strike the casual fan as odd considering they would think he had lost his chance at a contract anyway?


On good news it looks like the internet practically exploded. We could have another Matt Hardy situation ala Edge era soon if this keeps up.
 
YOu're probably going to end up wrong on at least one point. He wont show up at TNA. I'd bet my testes on it, and I'm with the people who think it's a work.

What other option does he have if not TNA? And by the way the people complaining about how Desmond Wolfe is being used in TNA are retarted, IMO.
 
I read up to page 24 and have several comments:

1) it's being claimed that after the Benoit tragedy a harder stance was takin on this type of excessive violence. was Cena vs Umaga @ i believe the Rumble after Benoit? where Cena used the ring rope to choke Umaga out???

2) yes, this firing took place days after the incident, but that doesn't mean its a work. it just might have taken that long for the complaint to come in and a decision to be made.

3) we've seen all sorts of news sites, as well as WWE's own site reporting this story, but that doesn't mean its legit. Vince controls his company's site and if this is a work, he could have had the story posted intentionally. people LIE all the time, we have yet to see an official comment regarding his release, just a bunch of dirtsheets claiming they know the truth.

4) Its possible we may never know the truth. let's say it's a work, that doesn't mean he'll be seen this monday or even mentioned, if Vince wants him off tv for a brief period of time to sell this angle. if it's real, comments have been made that WWE wants him back once this blows over, so he's kept off TV for a few weeks, then comes back.

Unless he shows up for TNA(which i doubt since Vince i hope would make sure he's unable to) or goes to ROH(which may not be that bad, if he's to be kept gone for awhile, Vince may give him the silent ok to go work ROH to keep in shape).

5) I am a fan of TNA, watch it every week, order all their PPVs, love many of their stars, etc. however i do not believe this is Dixie's surprise. Not only do i feel this isn't something that would "change TNA forever" it also just seems too small. BD is awesometacular, but i too feel he would get lost. with only 2 hours to work with every week, we see plenty of stars get lost, or not used, or too much focus on certain stars, etc.
 
interesting aspect here...maybe he has fired...legit...and rehired immediately?

Reason...to shut the person up who complained.

If you read everything about it...WWE loves the guy...everyone backstage has nothing but praise...even going so far as to saying..."We wish we could have a whole locker room filled of Bryan Danielson's"

So he's fired on Friday night...and rehired...Monday night?
 
This situation is a waste IMO, and has happened because he choked someone out?,

what about Ortan punting people in the head?, Im sure kids would repeat it.

Or suplexing someone into a ladder, kids would copy that also

Just because he choked justin roberts with his tie doesnt mean he should be the scape goat in this situation, Bryan has a tone of potential and needs to be apart of the worlds best wrestling company, damn shame on this damn damn shame.
 
http://www.wwe.com/inside/news/14734694

Theres the article saying he was released... but on the corporate page, it does not list him as being released... but they still have the ECW logo up so I'm not sure how reliable the corporate page is. I'm pretty sure this is a work. It would make sense that its storyline because there have been several choking spots in last few weeks on WWE programming. Also, I really honestly think we're getting tricked here. WWE has been "surprising" us with this type of crap for a while... its refreshing to have something to discuss in here other than bitching about the poor programming. With that said, I'm pretty sure its a work.
 
Look, let's face it, either this is an example of a work, playing the IWC against itself, or it's a case of Bryan Danielson choosing to leave. I don't believe for one second, regardless of Benoit, that he was fired because of choking with a tie, that's just stupid, especially when compared against other more brutal things that happen all the time, even in the PG world.

Either Danielson changed his mind and wanted out, for any of a number of personal reasons, or it's a work, with him "returning, " or coming out of the crowd or something like this at the next PPV, probably costing Cena the title in the process. Either that or he must have done something backstage pretty severe to really piss a wrong person off, but that doesn't seem to be his style.

I fully expect him back and soon to continue the NXT invasion angle. Properly.
 
Just tossing that general opening out there incase you had read my post. No harm, no foul. Afterall, what you said was in reference to me, even if it wasn't directed at me.

It was directed at posts which say something along the lines of "Omgzz WWE will be so sorry when TNA sign him and hurt the WWE!"



I think we should first establish what YOU determine as "hurting the WWE". Because I'm assuming you mean crippling them to the point of putting them out of business. If thats the case, then no. I doubt anything, or any other alternative Wrestling promotion is going to accomplish that. McMahon is a billionaire. And unlike Ted Turner, he knows how to manage a Wrestling show - even if he makes bad decisions from time to time.

Not necessarily putting them out of business - just damaging ratings to a point where the WWE really feel something is wrong and needs doing, with the 'possiblity' of them going out of business. (Of course, I don't ctually believe THAT is possible, but them thinking of it as a consequence would be something I define as hurting the WWE).

However, as far as I'm concerned when I say its something that could hurt. I mean in the future as far as talent is concerned. Like I said, they can't continue to ride on Triple H, John Cena and the Undertaker forever. Within the next 5 years, I would be shocked to see anyone besides Cena still with the Company on a full-time schedule.

Danielson has all the right 'stuff' to become a great future star for the Company. He may not have as much charisma as Shawn Michaels, or John Cena, but the fans have still shown tremendous love and ovation for him - which indicates he'd do better than the current future of Ted Dibiase Jr, or Cody Rhodes.

It's not like Danielson is the ONLY str though, if he actually has left - he hasn't stood out on NXT as being the best, esspecilly with all this hype surrounding him.


:lmao: Wait, whoa, stop the presses.. People, YOU'VE spoken too, who don't spend time on the internet (or just internet wrestling sites) don't view an internet darling, as something special and nothing more than an unknown rookie.

Well shit damn, call me stupid. I guess that means your friends know everything and can predict the entire outcome of the WWE - because they don't spend time on the interwebs. :disappointed:

Becca, I'm all fine and dandy that you have friends. They make the world go round. But you just bypassed everything with the world's worst reply. So your friends don't think too highly of him, but on the flip side thats because they haven't seen who he truly is.

Wow. I finally understand how you have long replies to everything - you take things completely out of context, THEN completely misinterpret them, throw in a few stupid comments, and bang, we have a Will post. My POINT had nothing to do with MY friends, it's exactly as I said earlier - those who don't watch anything other than WWE (Maybe TNA) and don't read wrestling news on the internet aren't as 'in love' with him as half this forum is, thus, if he DID go to TNA it wouldn't be a huge deal. Is that clear enough for you, or did I mention something about Hannah Montana moving to Iowa and having sex with your boss?

They've seen who the WWE made him look like, by way of the NXT show. Not who millions have come to love, via ROH and the internet. Hey, if I just viewed him from the NXT show then I'd probably hold him in low regard as well. But thankfully, I'm capable enough to look further into situations and not just judge books by their cover.

To be honest, Danielson isn't that great anyway, but, this is kind of my point - if those people haven't seen anything more than his NXT performances, which were solid but nothing amazing, very few people are going to jump ship to TNA if he goes there, and I very very much doubt he's the next Austin/Hogan, with the power to actually draw large amounts of people away from the WWE.

If its legit, WWE is losing something. A lot of money, from millions of internet fans, in the future event of a John Cena v. Bryan Danielson showdown. And if you can't see that, then I don't know what else to say because you simply have your eyes shut.

Millions? I think that's taking it a bit far. Danielson is talented but overrated here. I never said the WWE weren't LOSING something, it's just not a big deal, and nothing that will ever hurt them, or cause problems.
 
What other option does he have if not TNA? And by the way the people complaining about how Desmond Wolfe is being used in TNA are ******ed, IMO.

I was refferring to Slammiversary, but I'm equally certain he wont be heading to TNA anyway. Mostly because if this is legit (and I'm not 100% on that), WWE apparently want him back once the situation has blown over. Which won't take 90 days in all probability. But also because he may want to go back to ROH first (even if it's temporary) before considering his future, might not like TNA's creative direction and/or think he could make more money in the indies (which is why he said no back when he had the chance a few years ago after his first match with Cena) than in TNA.
 
Just like we all were shocked to what happened on Raw I'm not sure what to make of this. Part of me feels this could be legit because they did call him Bryan Danielson when he was released, but about the tie thing I don't know that's hard to believe and doesn't make any sense at all. The other part of me says this could be the E working us all up and trying to shock us once again. I just can't imagine the NXT group with Danielson he was by far the best of the group and with the whole Michael Cole storyline it would feel like it all went to waste if indeed he was released. If he wasn't released and this is all a storyline the E got us all worked up again over 30 pages now which is what they wanted.
 
There is no way he got fired for anything to do with that nxt invasion thing, because remember when a lot of sites were reporting that vince and steph were very pleased with the angle and congratulated them for doing a good job. If this is real he must have done something we don't know about. But this just seems like a work because of the timing and they put too much work into to release him. But if he is fired then oh well, we will just have to move on.
 
This has been mentioned several times, but it's buried deep in this thread, so I'll bring it up again so it can remain on people's minds as we try to figure this situation out.

http://corporate.wwe.com/

Look under Latest News. See anything about Daniel Bryan? No? Weird. See something about Carlito being released? Oh, you do? That was a legit release, wasn't it? Yep.

Just something to think about. :)
 

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