Daniel Bryan Released *GIVE OPINIONS*

[The Doctor]

How is choking a guy with his tie NOT PG-13? Everything in that riot was PG-13/TV-PG. There was no blood, just lots of intensity. Have you ever seen The Dark Knight? People die by the truckload in that movie, and it still managed a PG-13 rating. I've seen PG-13 movies where they drop megaton f-bombs. Don't try and tell me that Danielson choking out a guy with his tie isn't TV-PG/PG-13.

This had better be a work because unless bazillions of parents complained, it would be one stupid thing to shitcan a great guy and what looked to be a big part of your future for. Danielson would never fail a drug test or cause a ton of trouble, and to skip the suspensions and fines and go all the way to firing is just stupid to me.

If this is legit, it gives Danielson a lot of fodder to work with when he goes back to ROH. I'm hoping this is just a release of Daniel Bryan and that Bryan Danielson is still around. His release page looked different from others. It had a picture on it, which is never done to my knowledge.

 

[bigbootydaddyV]

I don't doubt this is legit, since the future endeavors has never been a work, no matter how many different times i had wished it was. Interesting that unless DB just caught roberts off guard he was a willing participant... shouldn't he be fired as well? If the two of them went against someone in WWE then they should both be gone (Even if it is a lame reason for anyone to be fired). Instead WWE just fires whoever their sponsors feel are wrong (hassan and DB). Growing up I always thought being a wrestler would be the coolest thing ever, now I feel for these guys, travel ridiculous amounts, some barely make more than an avg job (esp in TNA), and you get caught in this catch 22 where if you don't do something you are fired, and if you do it and it blows up in WWE's face you get fired, how miserable a place must WWE be to work for. They repackage pieces of crap into bigger pieces of crap all the time (JBL) so why not do that with both Hassan and DB. Firing these men over something THEY made them do is ridiculous, they are playing with someone's livelihood and dream and its just wrong in my opinion. DB wanted to be a wrestler his whole life, finally makes it to the top company, does what they tell him to do and is more convincing in his role then most guys on the roster and this is what happens. Hate to repeat myself but again this is more of a reason for a union to protect them from stuff like this. I gotta wonder about DB's reaction though, makes me think either he's trying to play it cool to get back to WWE at some point or he knows he fucked up and is accepting it because, if this happened to me, I'd go off on Vince and the WWE more than damian demento!

 

[mlp420]

Like a lot if people, I'm staying optimistic and hoping this is a work. They did something similar two years ago with Jeff Hardy being "attacked" before Survivor Series, which led to Matt's heel turn and their feud. So the possibility that this is just WWE working the fans is there. If we see more releases of the NXT guys then this could be proven true.

On the chance that this isn't a work, then WWE has made a gigantic mistake. Bryan may not have been the most over guy of the NXT crew, but he was definitely the best. His promo skills were on par with Barrett's, and his ring skills were better than everybody. WWE lost a huge future world champion if this is true. Will he go to TNA? Probably not. Bryan's fairly smart when it comes to wrestling and, after seeing Nigel McGuinness's treatment in TNA, someone who was considered his equal in ROH, would probably be cautious of going near the Hogan regime. If anything, he'd go back to his old stomping grounds in ROH.

Nigel's treatment in TNA? What the hell are you talking about? He's a semi-main eventer. I know i'd rather be a semi main eventer in TNA than have so called "5 star matches" no one will ever see in ROH.

 

[RawIsRamsey]

Noticed a few things...

Why it's a work: His Twitter account was registered when he popped up on NXT, he even deleting his original twitter account to have the DanielBryanNXT account...which has now been changed back to Danielson.

Why it's NOT a work: Mickie James' Twitter account was also created while she was a Diva, and she still uses the same account, so they may not have a restriction on who the Twitter account is registered to.

Why it's a work: Posting his release on just the WWE website and not corporate.

Why it's NOT a work: Corporate only posts wellness policy violators (no mention on corporate of the pre-draft fire sale which included Mickie and Shelton, but mention of Carlito).

Why it's a work: When he was choking Justin Roberts with his tie, the camera zoomed in and filmed for several moments.

Why it's NOT a work: It's live TV, and you go with the best shots...whether it was an illegal move or not, it was the best shot at that time as the other rookies were busy tearing apart the ring and ropes.

Why it's a work: Vince is getting into the habit of making even the internet kayfabe to keep all his surprises to a max.

Why it's NOT a work: Vince doesn't care about the IWC (see: Cabana, Colt).

So there...we have a captivating angle with a captivating release that may or may not be real...we find out Monday for certain.

Either way, Vince wins, cause it's all we're talking about...wasn't there another wrestling PPV this weekend?

 

[Tougie]

The Doctor, you brought up a great point about the picture, because I really cant recall whether or not there are normally pictures on the releases.

 

[Mr. Truth]

This had better be a work because unless bazillions of parents complained, it would be one stupid thing to shitcan a great guy and what looked to be a big part of your future for.

All it takes is one person who's been backing Linda, I think. Granted, even if a billion parents complained, it would be the stupidest complaint ever. If parents are worried that kids might imitate what's on TV, THEN DON'T LET THEM WATCH WRESTLING. Wrestling is all about fake violence, which is what this choking lies under.

His release page looked different from others. It had a picture on it, which is never done to my knowledge.

Granted one example is barely much, but I checked Carlito's and he had a picture on his.

 

[Alex_U]

This is Dixie Carters SURPRISE..... Bank on that. He is gonna care about no 90 compete clause. And what is Vince gonna do? Sue him, TNA would step up and handle that right quick. I would be the least bit surprised if this is what's gonna happen

 

[Remix]

This is Dixie Carters SURPRISE..... Bank on that. He is gonna care about no 90 compete clause. And what is Vince gonna do? Sue him, TNA would step up and handle that right quick. I would be the least bit surprised if this is what's gonna happen

Yeah, I'd bet on WWE's lawyers eating TNA's/Danielson's alive. On the grounds that they'd have a case and Danielson wouldnt. what's he going to say? 'Sure I signed this legal document saying I wouldn't jump ship until 90 days after my release, but I was treated like crap, and that makes it ok.' Not a chance my friend, not a chance.

As for the release, right now, I'm betting on work owing to the time between the incident and the release as well as DBD quoting Barrett. But I guess we'll find out on monday. If he shows up on Raw (jumping in from the crowd), or is mentioned, he's not been fired. if there's no reference to him, we'll next see him in in 90 days.

 

[Tougie]

If, and thats a big if, this is Dixies surprise is it really worth it? Going through legal trouble, I mean yeah this would be pretty huge right now especially if Bryan shows up at Slammiversary this sunday, I mean come on that would be pretty cool. This topic has everyone talking and it just sucks that we really dont know if its a work or not.

Its either its a work and he will be on WWE TV as Bryan Danielson. If its not a work then yeah he is gone and he'll most likely go back to ROH or maybe even as Dixie Carter's surprise. Hell, he might not even have a 90 Day compete clause? This is what wrestling needed at this point. Sure he isnt a main eventer jumping ship BUT if TNA were to push him right, he very well could be. We all know Danielson could have amazing matches with Wolf, AJ, Samoa Joe, Doug Williams, Homicide, really any wrestler that could compete in the X Division.

At this point im hoping its true, that he was released, and that he shows up at Slammiversary tomorrow. I think that would be a great boost for TNA, which honestly they need right now as we all know. Also, im not quite sure on this but wasent Danielson going to sign with TNA but then decided to go to WWE?

 

[MikeyNasty]

I saw the news update shortly before I went to bed last night and couldn't believe it. I slept on it, woke up, questioned it, thought about it while having my morning coffee, and I still am confused about the whole situation. What I'm thinking is this:

It's a work. This would tie in perfectly with the whole NXT thing. As someone else said before, Daniel Bryan was the only NXT rookie, besides Barrett, to receive a contract, albeit a 1 night only contract. So the E releasing him would kind of work in this situation, they could play it off that they couldn't fire Barrett because of his title match, and they couldn't fire the others because they weren't on the "WWE roster" or whatever. It would also help Cole's heel character a LOT. He could brag about how HE got Daniel Bryan fired, how it was HE who suggested his firing, etc. It really fits in with the last few episodes of RAW.

It's a ratings booster. Look at us all. This post has 23 pages of replies, in 1 DAY! Hell, look at this.

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EVERYONE is interested in this. You can no longer find the link on the main news page on WWE, it's only being passed around by members of the IWC. Maybe this is the single greatest move to get us to watch RAW in, like, forever. We're all confused and tossing ideas out and wondering what is going on, and we're DEFINITELY going to watch RAW Monday. No doubt about it. I bet some people would even miss their great aunt's funeral just to see what's up with this situation. The only flaw in this is that the WWE would be posting false information to their stockholders, causing panic and what not, unless of course they were sent word that it's indeed a work and not true, which would help solve this situation, so if you know anyone that has stock in WWE, ask them . Another thing that is fishy about this, is that they posted the news update late at night, when most kids are asleep and when people are not really concerned with checking the news posts. The only people that will see it are people who explore wrestling sites like PWInsider, WrestleZone, etc. Maybe this is Vince toying with the IWC.

It's legit. Linda is running for office. Her supports and rivals are watching the product to see what she's apart of. The whole NXT beatdown scene was rough, but the most outrageous thing I saw was Daniel Bryan choking Justin Roberts with his tie. That looked like the beatdown was insanely real. The emotion in Daniel Bryan and the pain in Justin's face made it look so devastating. Perhaps, as someone mentioned before, this is unflattering to her supporters and they asked that something be done. So, the WWE did what they do best: fire 'em.

But if it's legit, the thing I don't understand is, why? Why would they throw out the, arguably, best wrestler in the world? He's incredible on the mic, he shows a lot of emotion in his moves and actions, he's the complete package. Why would they FIRE him for "choking Justin Roberts with his tie"? It doesn't make sense. They wouldn't. That's why this HAS to be a work. Unless there is some other interesting back-story to this, like drugs or him having something to do with Vince's black eyes, it cannot be real. They would give him a very stern warning if it was the tie thing. The thing is, if it was a work, wouldn't it be posted on the front page? Wouldn't they want people to know about it? It would make more sense that way.

If I had to chose one of those 3 options, I'd say it's a ratings booster. Vinny Mac is doing this to stir up drama amongst the IWC. Nobody will miss RAW on Monday because of this. What a perfect way to lead in to the Fatal Four Way PPV.

 

[CDoherty]

I find it hilarious how many pages there are to this thread and how many people act like Danielson is the next big Austin or Hogan. Awesome talent loved his work in ROH, but this guy is not a talent that will make it huge in WWE or TNA.
When he is not wrestling he screams boring, and is a classic example of being only a great in ring talent, does not mean your a main eventer.
Look at CM Punk, everyone with myself included love him in ROH just like Danielson, except Punk can do promos, Danielson can not. Punk stands out in a crowd, Danielson does not. See my point.
Will this hurt the NXT angle, not a bit.

 

[closet_fan]

it's the parent's responsibility to explain to young kids that what they see on tv should never be re-enacted in real life.

this just goes to show that a lot of parents who watch this with their kids are too freakin stupid and can't raise their kids right and explain the difference between right and wrong.

 

[Tougie]

Lol are you kidding me? He was the focal point of NXT all season long. The fued with Cole was more in the spotlight than the actual "Competition". This is a huge hit to the NXT Invasion angle.

 

[Remix]

If, and thats a big if, this is Dixies surprise is it really worth it? Going through legal trouble, I mean yeah this would be pretty huge right now especially if Bryan shows up at Slammiversary this sunday, I mean come on that would be pretty cool. This topic has everyone talking and it just sucks that we really dont know if its a work or not.

It wouldn't be legal trouble, it'd be a legal disaster. WWE's lawyers would rape them in the wallet and in the tapes. They'd fucking seaze the PPV footage, stop it getting repeated or ever refered to on air again. You don't fuck about with legalities unless you've got a loophole that you can exploit to minimise the damage. THere won't be in this case.

Its either its a work and he will be on WWE TV as Bryan Danielson. If its not a work then yeah he is gone and he'll most likely go back to ROH or maybe even as Dixie Carter's surprise.

To ROH, yes. Dixies surprise, fuck no.

Hell, he might not even have a 90 Day compete clause?

If you think DBD wont have a 90 day no comptet clause, you're a ******. Vince learned from the monday night wars. Even if TNA isn't close to being competition, he's not going to let anybody take momentum from his company and take it to another. Scotty 2 Hotty had a 90 day clause. ANd last I checked, BDB was a higher class tallent than him.

This is what wrestling needed at this point. Sure he isnt a main eventer jumping ship BUT if TNA were to push him right, he very well could be.

And how often has that heppened recently. Last time I checked Desmond Wolfe is being made Abyss' bitch.

We all know Danielson could have amazing matches with Wolf, AJ, Samoa Joe, Doug Williams, Homicide, really any wrestler that could compete in the X Division.

And hhen exactly was the last time the X-Division mattered? Being in the X-Division isn't a push, it's beig a glorified curtain jerker.

At this point im hoping its true, that he was released, and that he shows up at Slammiversary tomorrow. I think that would be a great boost for TNA, which honestly they need right now as we all know.

YOu're probably going to end up wrong on at least one point. He wont show up at TNA. I'd bet my testes on it, and I'm with the people who think it's a work.

 

[Splinter48708]

OK, this bothers me. Justin Roberts gets choked by his tie and a guy gets fired when it's supposed to be a work? Three Minute Warning FLATTENED Lilian Garcia and nothing happened (I know it was to get her off-screen to do some recording work) but, they still could have done major damage in the process. Others have been hurt far worse than that, PG or not, and the guy causing the damage was not fired as a result. I do not see Juston Roberts having that sort of juice card to have a guy fired. I could see Lawler having that sort of juice behind the scenes and considering the damage to the ringside area, that was a lot of damage. I don't know if the ring was gimmicked to be trashed like that (Was any reader at RAW to see the ring get a quick gimmick job??) Add to that the fact that both announcers were "heading for the hills" as their announce desk was just as flattened as the ring was interesting to see.

It was more Attitude Era than this "Let's water down the WWE so that Linda McMahon looks good for the Senate run." Maybe that's why the WWE scapegoated this guy. If he went beyond what was told in the pre-show briefings, I could see a for-real suspension being handed down, unless he was in a probationary period where the WWE could tear up his contract for any reason.

We'll have to see what is reported next on this developing story.

 

[closet_fan]

I find it hilarious how many pages there are to this thread and how many people act like Danielson is the next big Austin or Hogan. Awesome talent loved his work in ROH, but this guy is not a talent that will make it huge in WWE or TNA.
When he is not wrestling he screams boring, and is a classic example of being only a great in ring talent, does not mean your a main eventer.
Look at CM Punk, everyone with myself included love him in ROH just like Danielson, except Punk can do promos, Danielson can not. Punk stands out in a crowd, Danielson does not. See my point.
Will this hurt the NXT angle, not a bit.

for me, it's not who was let go, but for why they were let go. i wouldn't care if it was an absolute no one who was lower on the totem pole than danielson.

that's not why i'm upset. i'm pissed for the reason why, if this is legit, he was let go.

 

[RatedRPiedmont]

It really sucks because i do believe he has been fired.

The thing i dont get is if he was really fired for choking somebody. It was given good TV time and i have to say, it was what really put that beating over the top for me atleast.

Taking out the Champ, a referee and even Lawler is nothing new on TV, but attacking the ring announce is something i dont believe i have seen before. And not only did Bryan take him out, he tortured him. It was what gave me that feeling that wrestling has not made me feel in a while. It gave me that quick feeling like the people in and around the ring were actually in real danger.

It is a shame this caused his firing, if anything Bryan is what stood out the most in that segment. Between the choking of Roberts and spitting in Cena's face (which also seemed to be edited out on Smackdown last night) he definitely stood out the most.

PS-when it comes to Heath Slater and trying to choke Cena with the ropes, he started to, and he either thought better of it or somebody else told him not to but he stopped

 

[GRocca7x]

This is Dixie Carters SURPRISE..... Bank on that. He is gonna care about no 90 compete clause. And what is Vince gonna do? Sue him, TNA would step up and handle that right quick. I would be the least bit surprised if this is what's gonna happen

Im not trying to bash any TNA fans here but if, God forbid, it were legit I would hate for Danielson to go to TNA. I used to love TNA but for the past 2 years or so it became unbearable. I tried getting back into it for the whole Hogan era thing but I just cant do it, as much as I love Joe, RVD, AJ, Angle,Wolfe and all the other guys, its so hard for me to put up with it. And I'm tired of this whole "surprise" BS. I swear TNA has a surprise, or something "that will change the face of TNA" like every 2 months and its starting to get ridiculous. I don't want Danielson to get dragged into that mess, plus they need to stop bringing in guys and seriously utilize the amazing talent they already have cuz its getting crowded real fast over there.

WWE please take the credit for being smart for once and let this be a work. If its not, at least bring Danielson back in a few months so this can all blow over

 

[closet_fan]

thinking about it, i think it has a huge bearing on linda's campaign, which i think we can all agree has totally ruined the product. i don't think anyone in the back had that much of a problem with it. i think someone from her party saw it, thought it was too over the top and voiced his/her opinion.

 

[airvar]

Ok, I have been thinking a bit and this just DOSENT MAKE SENSE...

ACTUALLY releasing him is very unlike WWE.. When someone ends up getting the axe there is usually some sort of backround info on it...

Usually this type of thing would be a "strike against dainelson" you would hear about backstage heat on him for the incident.. Then about 2-3 months down the road AFTER the angle was over he would be released with a large group of wrestlers in a "trimming of the fat".. the only way someone is relased by themselves is due to a serious backstage infraction (which this REALLY can't be considered as , I mean they FOCUSED on the alleged "inccident" ) or a wellness policy violation.

This whole thing is just REALLY REALLY weird.. It is a strage circumstance and as much as the WWE can just mess up potentially great storylines It just isn't like them to invest SO much into one guy and then just drop him like that.. Plus you know he would be CRAZY pissed and bashing WWE left and right on his Twitter/Rap sheets ASAP, NOT quoting Wade Barrett, and I honestly see no way that they called him up at midnight on a Friday and let him know out of the blue he was being fired.

It just seems SO MUCH like work it's really hard to believe they ACTUALLY fired him.. But I guess we won't know untill Monday!

 

[Evildeath]

If Bryan Danielson's release is genuine then Linda McMahon is the biggest idiot on this planet to get involved in the wrestling business. Justin Roberts did point to the choke whilst Danielson applied it may indicating it was too aggressive. But I agree that Danielson is a talent that should never be released. That still won't stop a lot of you watching the Undertakers undefeated streak. Just wait till he goes and then see what the WWE is left with.

 

[Captain America]

If this is a work how can they kayfabe fire him, if he wasn't even technically an "employee" of the WWE kayfabe wise? This blows balls if true. I'm praying this isn't true. Bryan Danielson made me fall in love with wrestling again. He made me want to tune into Raw next week.

 

[Bigdog6374]

Who says he was fired though all the statment said was they had come to agreement on his release. Who is to say he didn't agree with the direction they had planned for his character and asked for his release ?

Also as far as him being the big TNA suprise a no compete clause is just that it means he can't actually compete for another company it doesn't mean he can't be sitting ringside at Slammiversary or be announced as coming soon it just means he can't show up and actually wrestle until the agreed upon date allowed.

 

[VLR]

King & Cole will have to reference the "8 Rooks" on RAW, lets see if Cole claims responsibility.

Also, the twitter link on his WWE profile leads to a petition to rehire him... hmm...

 

[TheDaneTrain]

This has to be a work or something.. He appeared at FCW on wednesday.. If they were firing him due to the Justin incident then they wouldn't have let him perform two days later.. I don't think the pieces are matching up here at all... Plus.. i can't seem to find his release page anymore on WWE.com