Daniel Bryan Released *GIVE OPINIONS*

[sicmcnasti]

Dude is fired. Let's get that settled. It's not a work. It's the real deal. As a wrestling fan it sucks big time but if he's meant to be back he'll be back. And all of you will keep watching and it won't be TNA's gain cause he won't do anything to TNA's ratings that TNA hasn't already tried just like it won't do anything to WWE's ratings. 15 of you said you're never going to watch WWE again. Out of that 15 maybe 5 of you actually won't. I guarantee you that the 5 who will stop watching - nobody in WWE cares because there will be 50 fans replacing you come Monday. You're not the target audience anymore, get over yourselves.

Clear? Good.

 

[HBK-aholic]

I think you're putting way too much focus on this. Thats fine.

I noticed you say something in your opening statement, and it reflected something of my post - I didn't think you'd target anyONE individual - but thankfully there's no rule against who I can, and can't debate on any given subject. So I replied.

I wasn't saying anything against you replying, it was you saying "You're an idiot to believe I meant this" when I hadn't read your post.

Again, I'll even agree to saying what is just me repeating what I've already said. I can not believe ANY Company would get close enough to putting the WWE out of business, or even coming close to damaging them.

Is it possible for a show to steal ratings? Yes, absolutely. Will that cause them to believe they lost something they had? Well, I'm sure it will if the result of the ratings shift comes off a guy they had - and let go.

I just don't think it'll happen. He'll likely be back with the WWE shortly, and I don't see Danielson either moving to TNA, or being used properly to BECOME that big star, being that TNA is pretty shit.

I get that you're viewing this from an NXT only focus-point. But Bryan Danielson, you know the name you keep using, is a far bigger star than the entire NXT show.

I'm just viewing it from a majority of the WWE audience. I personally know of Danielsons other achievements, but do enough of the WWE audience now, who have only seen him in NXT, care ENOUGH to go watch TNA because he's on it? Which has been my point, all along.

You keep going on about how he hasn't "stood out" from any of the rest of the rookies.. but, uhm, Becca.. HE HAS.

And even in comparing him to the other rookies. He took Batista, Chris Jericho & other "Pro's" to their limit. When the rest of the group was just screwing around with each other, and the mid-card Pros from that show. He has defeated the sole guy he had a feud with. (Miz) He lead his entire team to a victory in a *whatever man* tag match.

SO, yeah, he kinda has made some type of stand-out point. And you know, besides all that - he's been IN THE BUSINESS for over a decade. And not for nothing, it all began with him training partly under the guy you wet yourself over on a nightly basis. I'm kinda shocked you didn't point that out any sooner.

I think people like us, who spend time on WZ, of all places, have paid special attention to him, with all the hype of the WWE signing him. I've never said Danielson isn't talented, I believe he is. Just that moving to TNA now won't really affect the WWE's audience, therefore won't hurt them. If WWE made him into a huge star and then he jumped ship, it would be different.

*sigh* You're being naive, you think you're funny. In truth, you're being laughed at.. .. a lot.

I'm being laughed at for arguing a NXT rookie won't damage the WWE is he's not there now?

You mentioned friends of yours who weren't members of this forum (or any wrestling forum) who purely watch wrestling on tv ONLY. Indicating, they don't know the "inside works" they just know what they see.

Well, duh, then he wouldn't be someone "known" because ROH (until this year) never had a national television deal. But thankfully, your friends aren't the only people who watch this "sport" and know of him.

So, as much as I respect your friend's opinions to not think he's "anything special".. unfortunately, just because they think that way - doesn't mean the majority of the group feels the same. Again, you know, the thousands and millions of internet wrestling fans - that KNOW of Danielson and enjoy him very much so.

Seriously, MOST of WWE fans don't go on forums, which is, again, my point. And where were the 'millions' of his fans watching NXT, then? The ratings, in comparison to RAW, were, what? No where near as big - so that's a lot of Raw's audience not even having the NXT viewing of Danielson, and you think he'll harm the WWE?

Oh, is this what we're doing now? Randomly coming up with slap-stick humor and back-talking, flaming, stupid comments that have nothing to do with the thread?

Flaming? Lulz you're sensitive. The fact I 'have friends' has nothing to do with the thread but you thought it appropriate to attempt being a smart ass.

Is this where I should make some witty comeback remark about how you should stick to what you know, and just post 'xxx' pictures of yourself since thats the only way people are ever gonna give you the attention you feel you deserve? Are we done with the stupidity, or would you like to add anything else that just continues to make you look foolish and silly?

Oh the irony.

The thing is though, one of the loudest "pops" that was heard for any NXT member - was during the Danielson/Jericho and Danielson/Batista matches. So, again, he's kinda bigger than what you want to admit.

..Why would I NOT want to admit him 'bigger'? I have nothing against Danielson, as you said earlier, he was trained by Shawn, so I'm not going to hate him in any way. I'm simply being honest in that he's not as amazing as half of this frum see him, to a majority of WWE fans.

As for people jumping ship to TNA, a lot of people are already watching both. So no, I doubt a huge flux in ratings is going to shift because of Danielson. But the point I was making, that you continue to un-smoothly try to avoid - is that Danielson could be a big potential future star.

When have I avoided or denied that? Sure he could be a big potential star, so could a lot of people the WWE still have. But he'll never be big enough to hurt the WWE in the way Hogan did in WCW, or help them, the way Austin did on the Monday Night Wars.

Oh, as for the drawing power.. yeah, I never said he'd come to that point of being like Austin or Hogan. Now who's trying to put words in who's mouth?

I never said YOU did. FFS you are just so annoying, and try to twist every little thing, even the simple ones to ignore points. Did I say "Will, you said this about him"? No, I said, of my own accord, he will never be that big, therefore the WWE don't need to worry. My God you are impossible.

Not to mention, misunderstanding everything and trying to turn things around.

Again, irony.

Becca, look around. KB posted an ad to JOIN this forum a few pages back, all because this very subject has caused massive waves of conversation and debate. The very same amounts of people flocking to discuss this issue - are watching WWE and wondering what will happen, with Danielson, next.

Okay I'm being REALLY serious now...the people flocking to view THIS thread, are NOT going to cause a difference. There are, what? 100-150 people? Even if they DID jump ship because Danielson did, they wouldn't harm the WWE. Yes, this is a big storyline, or news item, whichever way you look at it, because of the fact Danielson is a big star on forums like these, because he was very recently involved with the storyline which caused an influx of posters onto the forum, and because he's a good NXT rookie.

So, yeah, he kinda does have a huge fan base the likes of which you seem to be unwilling to believe in.

Hon, the couple hundred people in this thread are not a huge fanbase.

ON an ending note - you sly minx you, I almost missed this post. Which I'm sure you hoped I would. Buried among the tons of randomness of this thread. I can only come to believe you'll be happy to know, I replied.

Obviously, I usually write out replies to people in the hope they don't see them...

 

[GameOver]

I stumbled upon that first then I just checked wrestlezone and the forums to see if anyone could further elaborate. From reading his twitter i thought i was convinced it was a work but now that ive stumbled upon this topic im not 100% sure. I seriously hope it is but that future endeavor's post on wwe.com scares me a little.

If its true the only logical reason is him pissing some1 off by getting to rough on Cena or even the ring announcer (Justin Roberts). When I watched the "invasion" live Danielson was choking out Roberts with his tie and it really looked brutal. Then I noticed on the replays they showed on NXT and Smackdown they edited that part out. I assume it was simply too graphic to be on tv but maybe they got on Danielson for it. However, on the twitter he did mention the whole "winds of change" thing which could be a hint to the storyline which gives me hope that its a work. It looks like we're just gonna have to find out monday

They didn't edit out him strangling Roberts. I saw it on the replays segment during NXT and Smackdown. they shortened the amount of time the camera showed it but it was still there they just didn't mention anything about Bryan

as for being anything to do with Cena, he didn't do anything to him except scream in his face.

There was something odd during Smackdown though, when they showed the replay of the attack, afterwards Matt Striker said if anybody wants to go toe to toe with us, bring it on. Could that be a jab at TNA LOL na

And back to the Roberts things, it's entirely possible that Roberts complained and Bryan is just suspended which they could work into the storyline.

Either way i don't care.

 

[Alexander Cage]

Jim Ross has posted an update to his blog, which you can read in full here. Some highlights:

On Daniel Bryan: I was surprised to get up Saturday morning and to read that Daniel Bryan or Bryan Danielson had been released from WWE. I am not sure of the exact circumstances and until that information is confirmed it's hard to make any definitive comments. Bryan is a talented wrestler who is not going to have any trouble finding work. His in ring style is unique, the young man has certainly paid his 'dues,' what ever that means now days, and he's arguably the most talked about performer on NXT. Certainly Bryan leaves WWE with momentum and with more fans knowing his name than at any point in his career. Plus, who is to say that Bryan will never return to WWE? There may be a great deal more to this matter than any of us know or, honestly, need to know at this time.

 

[TheOneBigWill]

I wasn't saying anything against you replying, it was you saying "You're an idiot to believe I meant this" when I hadn't read your post.

And exactly how much of this are you taking out of context? You know, besides all of it.

I said you'd be idiotic to think I'd believe Danielson going else-where would kill the WWE. You said you didn't mean what you said in relation to my post, specifically. I said that was fine, but what you did say - had connection to my post, since you were saying something against a side I was taking. Thus, I replied to you believing you were tying in everyone who felt against what you said.

I just don't think it'll happen. He'll likely be back with the WWE shortly, and I don't see Danielson either moving to TNA, or being used properly to BECOME that big star, being that TNA is pretty shit.

Yep. A Company that upgrade their income, and fanbase, each year, is 'pretty shit'.

I'm just viewing it from a majority of the WWE audience. I personally know of Danielsons other achievements, but do enough of the WWE audience now, who have only seen him in NXT, care ENOUGH to go watch TNA because he's on it? Which has been my point, all along.

In all fairness, neither You nor I know exactly how much of the WWE Universe is familiar with Bryan Danielson. However, I would say considering the company has been pressing that he has been a "known" Wrestler else-where, that most of the 'Universe' has taken up the chance to look into what they're talking about.

I'm not trying to bad mouth your point. I'm merely saying I see a different side to it, and you're getting all upset. lol

I think people like us, who spend time on WZ, of all places, have paid special attention to him, with all the hype of the WWE signing him.

You've clearly spent too much time on this forum. lol I don't have to be a member of WZ, to have known who Daniel Bryan/Bryan Danielson is/was/has been. And as a Bryan Danielson fan, why can't I be hyped from the possibility of him in the WWE?

I've never said Danielson isn't talented, I believe he is. Just that moving to TNA now won't really affect the WWE's audience, therefore won't hurt them. If WWE made him into a huge star and then he jumped ship, it would be different.

I agree if he was even bigger, it'd be a different story. However, he was involved in one of the biggest ending's (as has been said) to Raw, in how long? And suddenly, he's "fired".

So, if he goes to TNA, why isn't it possible to believe he couldn't get immediate (major) attention? And you keep tossing out this "enough to hurt the WWE" stuff. I never once said his move to any other Company would hurt the WWE. So I don't know why you keep on with that.

Seriously, MOST of WWE fans don't go on forums, which is, again, my point.

Do you have a pie-chart of this? Did you take a poll at a recent WWE event to know exactly how many of them are internet users compared to non-internet users? I highly doubt it. So what you're saying isn't anywhere near a fact. Its an opinion, and to be honest in this day and age - I'd say not a very good one.

A big majority of the fanbase that is Pro Wrestling, ARE internet marks/smarks. And my point, is that the same majority know of Danielson and thus is why its receiving such attention.

Carlito was also released.. where's the big shit-overload for that? Oh, thats right.. NO ONE CARED!

And where were the 'millions' of his fans watching NXT, then? The ratings, in comparison to RAW, were, what? No where near as big - so that's a lot of Raw's audience not even having the NXT viewing of Danielson, and you think he'll harm the WWE?

Its no secret that Sy-Fy isn't available in all areas. Much like the MYNetworkTV station that carries Smackdown.

Not to mention, DVRs cripple ratings in today's television world. Tuesdays are filled with people who have lives and can't watch "live". That doesn't mean they aren't still tuning in, at some point.

*Ignoring the non-thread related stuff*

..Why would I NOT want to admit him 'bigger'? I have nothing against Danielson, as you said earlier, he was trained by Shawn, so I'm not going to hate him in any way. I'm simply being honest in that he's not as amazing as half of this frum see him, to a majority of WWE fans.

Again, how exactly do you know this? I mean, I feel like I can understand where your frustration of me is coming from. I continue to repeat myself, because you simply aren't explaining why you feel this way.

You make opinionated statements that have no fact to them, and you argue as if you know 100% that you're right.

When have I avoided or denied that? Sure he could be a big potential star, so could a lot of people the WWE still have. But he'll never be big enough to hurt the WWE in the way Hogan did in WCW, or help them, the way Austin did on the Monday Night Wars.

I can agree with this, but only through the understanding that its because Danielson doesn't have the character they had. Like they don't have the technical ability he has.

Wrestlers gain popularity through different means. Just because he'll never sell millions through catchy slogans and colorful t-shirts doesn't mean he won't be a Main Event, possibly future Hall of Famer one day.

You act as if - if he can't be the size of Hogan, or Austin, then he isn't worth talking about. HBK will never be their size either, and yet you fawn over him. As do I, over Edge. Everyone has their favorites.

*Ignoring more non-thread related stuff*

Okay I'm being REALLY serious now...the people flocking to view THIS thread, are NOT going to cause a difference. There are, what? 100-150 people? Even if they DID jump ship because Danielson did, they wouldn't harm the WWE.

There you go saying that statement again. And okay, so 100-150 people to you isn't a decent amount? In comparison to thousands or millions, obviously not. But thats 100-150 in the course of an hour or so. (or "day" as it's been)

Yes, this is a big storyline, or news item, whichever way you look at it, because of the fact Danielson is a big star on forums like these, because he was very recently involved with the storyline which caused an influx of posters onto the forum, and because he's a good NXT rookie.

I'm sure you'll correct me for being wrong, even if I'm not, but isn't this being contradicting?

First, you say he isn't all that great. Now you claim its a big storyline/news item, because he is.

Hon, the couple hundred people in this thread are not a huge fanbase.

WZ isn't the only internet forum for Wrestling, either. And I'm almost positive, this is happening around the interwebz. Including, especially, at WWE Universe. (where they'd likely want it to happen, the most, to gain a reaction of just how huge Danielson truly is.)

This is building to a similar situation of the Matt Hardy situation. Where he was canned, then got such a big ovation from internet fans - he was given his job back.

I hope you aren't pulling your hair out too much. Its nice to finally see you post something outside of HBK related.

 

[Mr_Ratings]

Ok so since WWE is all about planned spots... How come they didnt fire roberts? Or the cameraman for zooming in? Or every time a wrestler gets to a 4 count on a choke?

Every fan over the age of... idk 15? Should wisen up and ditch this shit if they love true wrestling/entertainment! I know TNA isnt the best product, and it has its flaws ( mainly in the tv production aspects ) but they sure as hell dont fire people over a planned choke spot!

PG just cost a hard working respected wrestler his job!

 

[Evildeath]

as for being anything to do with Cena, he didn't do anything to him except scream in his face.

Incorrect. Watch it again carefully. He says "You are not better than me!" a few times then spits in his face. A few tube vidoes show this.

 

[HBK-aholic]

Yep. A Company that upgrade their income, and fanbase, each year, is 'pretty shit'.

You can quote their business record as much as you like to me, I'm a wrestling fan, and from watching both, TNA is pretty shit, in comparison to the WWE.

In all fairness, neither You nor I know exactly how much of the WWE Universe is familiar with Bryan Danielson. However, I would say considering the company has been pressing that he has been a "known" Wrestler else-where, that most of the 'Universe' has taken up the chance to look into what they're talking about.

I think if they were that bothered, or if they did research and liked him, they'd have watched NXT, but those ratings weren't overly high.

I'm not trying to bad mouth your point. I'm merely saying I see a different side to it, and you're getting all upset. lol

I am very upset. Crying and everything.

You've clearly spent too much time on this forum. lol I don't have to be a member of WZ, to have known who Daniel Bryan/Bryan Danielson is/was/has been. And as a Bryan Danielson fan, why can't I be hyped from the possibility of him in the WWE?

I didn't say you couldn't be hyped up.

I agree if he was even bigger, it'd be a different story. However, he was involved in one of the biggest ending's (as has been said) to Raw, in how long? And suddenly, he's "fired".

That's the reason I'm not sure it's legit - it seems too sudden.

So, if he goes to TNA, why isn't it possible to believe he couldn't get immediate (major) attention? And you keep tossing out this "enough to hurt the WWE" stuff. I never once said his move to any other Company would hurt the WWE. So I don't know why you keep on with that.

It was my original point, the entire thing I'm debating, to those who DID believe it. Gosh, you're the one that replied

Do you have a pie-chart of this? Did you take a poll at a recent WWE event to know exactly how many of them are internet users compared to non-internet users? I highly doubt it. So what you're saying isn't anywhere near a fact. Its an opinion, and to be honest in this day and age - I'd say not a very good one.

Oh be serious I'm not saying they don't USE the internet. But I mean, even on a forum like ours, which is big, we really don't have that many regulars in comparison to the entire WWE audience. I'll hve to get Sly to make me a pie-chart though

A big majority of the fanbase that is Pro Wrestling, ARE internet marks/smarks. And my point, is that the same majority know of Danielson and thus is why its receiving such attention.

Carlito was also released.. where's the big shit-overload for that? Oh, thats right.. NO ONE CARED!

Because it's Carlito... We'll have to see how the rest of the WWE audience react to see how much they care for Danielson. At the moment we've ONLY got the opinions of those who DO use the forum, which doesn't really prove anything either way.

Not to mention, DVRs cripple ratings in today's television world. Tuesdays are filled with people who have lives and can't watch "live". That doesn't mean they aren't still tuning in, at some point.

This is true. Although I'd assume that of those who record NXT, at least the same amount record Raw.

Again, how exactly do you know this? I mean, I feel like I can understand where your frustration of me is coming from. I continue to repeat myself, because you simply aren't explaining why you feel this way.

...What have I not explained? Do YOU believe most of WWE fans come onto forums?

You make opinionated statements that have no fact to them, and you argue as if you know 100% that you're right.

I'm debating what I feel, which is pretty much the point of the forum. I don't know I'm 100% right, but neither does anyone in this thread.

I can agree with this, but only through the understanding that its because Danielson doesn't have the character they had. Like they don't have the technical ability he has.

Wrestlers gain popularity through different means. Just because he'll never sell millions through catchy slogans and colorful t-shirts doesn't mean he won't be a Main Event, possibly future Hall of Famer one day.

You act as if - if he can't be the size of Hogan, or Austin, then he isn't worth talking about. HBK will never be their size either, and yet you fawn over him. As do I, over Edge. Everyone has their favorites.

It's not that he's not WORTH talking about, it's just that, with my original point being he won't overly hurt the WWE, it's only if he was the size of those 2 that he WOULD hurt them. I've never said he won't be a big star. He might not be, but it all depends on how he's used.

There you go saying that statement again. And okay, so 100-150 people to you isn't a decent amount? In comparison to thousands or millions, obviously not. But thats 100-150 in the course of an hour or so. (or "day" as it's been)

And that's 150 people who have just posted about the topic. It's not like there are 150 people arguing how amazing Danielson is and how much the WWE needs him etc.

I'm sure you'll correct me for being wrong, even if I'm not, but isn't this being contradicting?

First, you say he isn't all that great. Now you claim its a big storyline/news item, because he is.

I've never said he wasn't a good NXT rookie, in fact I've said the opposite. But being a good NXT rookie does not equal being a great wrestler. I have an open mind on what he will eventually become, but as for now I don't think he's great.

WZ isn't the only internet forum for Wrestling, either. And I'm almost positive, this is happening around the interwebz. Including, especially, at WWE Universe. (where they'd likely want it to happen, the most, to gain a reaction of just how huge Danielson truly is.)

Ooh do me a favour and go look on their forum. I can't relly be bothered.

I hope you aren't pulling your hair out too much. Its nice to finally see you post something outside of HBK related.

Well this is obviously HBK related. He was trained by him, remember. Gosh, why else would I care.

 

[OutsiderDX]

It is not a work.

The E is a machine. They will bulldoze thru the NXT storyline without Danielson... without blinking an eye. So the argument of, "you can't get rid of him in the middle of a storyline" is totally without merit. The E controls everything, and after a week or two, it is human nature to forget. Not a single wrestler in the E can stop the machine. Get rid of 3 or 4 top guys and the machine will still roll. It's been done 100 times before.

Hogan leaves, replaced by the hitman
Hitman leaves, replaced by HBK
HBK leaves, replaced by Austin
Trish leaves replaced by Mickie
Rock and Austin leaves, replaced by HHH and Cena.

They can and will release anyone and it wont matter.

Do i hate Danielson was fired, yes. He was one of the very very few reasons i have hope. I had envisioned watching his career.... hoping that i would not be disappointed, celebrating in the fact that someone with talent and not just size could achieve greatness. So thats what this release means to me. It crushes my hope, my desire to even watch is so small. 25 years of watching, and i have never been so deflated.

One of my highlights in the past 10 years was Danielson screaming at Cena. "You think you are better than me??" That summed up everything many of us feel. We hate everything Cena stands for and we love everything Danielson is and could be.

Its a sad day.

 

[modest-genius]

Wishful thinking has me hoping it's a work. The biggest evidence agaisnt this though is that WWE has never, ever fired someone with a FE on WWE.com as part of a story. If it were a story it would not make much sense either just to fire Daniel. But then again if the website said all of the NXT rookies are FE then we would know it was a work. Still very doubtful it is a work...

What's annoying is that Bryan hasn't bothered to confirm or deny this on his twitter account in days know if it real. For someone who says he is connected to his fans it would be nice to not give us all false hope like this.

 

[#Britton#]

I just did a bit of reserach and came across this

Suspicion, and only suspicion, says that either WWE’s recent association with Mattel in producing their new line of action figures and accessories influenced the decision. A top reigning toy company would not like to be associated with a live on-air choking from their cast of characters. The other thought is that Linda McMahon’s campaign for the a Senatorial seat in Connecticut also had an influence on the decision to release Bryan.

from http://www.examiner.com/x-1734-Pro-...m6d13-Reason-for-Bryan-Danielsons-WWE-release
What do you guys reckon of this and if it is true, if it is then i am very pissed off as i really like bryan and he had hope to the future, hopefully vince will hire him back after the whole thing blows over

 

[Trill Co$by]

I think that might have another thing to do with it...

And what makes his release so horrible is that the WWE Universe never got to see the CM Punk vs. Bryan Danielson match that I know was only destined to take place.

 

[Dynasty Era]

Well in my honest opinion Wade Barret is my favorite but i would be lying if i said that i didnt want Daniel Bryan to win...He had a stellar match against at the time world champion Chris Jericho...Wrestling on the indys for 10 years sounds like more than enough exp. to me..I really hope this is part of a script,If not Vince bring back Daniel Bryan

 

[MoneyMack]

This is the dumbest shit I've ever heard in my life! The NXT kids are told to go out there and reek havoc on everyone & everything at the end of RAW...Then one guy takes it a step to far (In at least ONE persons opinion) & he gets shit-canned for it? What the fuck? No warning? No suspension? Just a straight up shit-canning? This makes ZERO sense to me!!

The choking with the tie wasnt even close to as violent as the "HHH sledgehammer" or the "Sheamus lead-pipe"! HELL- the "Orton punt" looks more violent then that in my opinion! Im just hoping this is a swerve- cuz if its not...Vince dropped the ball here!

If Danielson really did get fired for a stupid tie choking...I hope TNA jumps all over this opportunity! THIS is whats still making me think its a VKM swerve! Imagine, if you will:

90 days expire. The American Dragon Bryan Danielson shows up on Impact! I dont know exactly how the promo would go, but I'd be sure to throw this comment into it over & over again: Im too violent for WWE. They had to fire me, cuz I was too violent for them. They were scared I was going to hurt everyone there. They cant handle The Dragon!

This whole situation just really frustrates me as a wrestling fan! I cant watch ROH... So I didnt really know Bryan Danielson until he became Daniel Bryan. But I watched the videos. The guy can work his ass off & theres ZERO doubt about it.

So- he pretty much gets a show centered around him, in NXT. It may have not been for him alone- but he was the centerpiece of the show. OK- the shows over & Daniel Bryan didnt win. He even eliminated himself from the competition. Then this past Monday goes by- & we see a great new angle starting. The NXT season 1 rookies going ape-shit on Cena & anyone else in there path! The whole wrestling world is 'a-buzz'. Alot of people were already calling it the best angle in WWE in 5, maybe TEN years!! So what happens after that???

They FIRE the #1 or probly #2 guy in the whole fucking storyline?? Are you fucking serious??? If this is true...& Danielson really got fired because of a tie choking incident...This WHOLE fucking "NXT invasion" angle is OVER- just like THAT! BAM! OVER!

Whata Fucking Joke!!

 

[sycro]

The invasion angle is not over. In the eyes of most fans, Bryan was 7th or 8th in the group based on elimination.

Also, why would WWE care what the "IWC" thinks about this or why would they try to fool the "IWC"? It's maybe 3% of their audience. They don't care what the internet thinks.

 

[Jack-Hammer]

What's annoying is that Bryan hasn't bothered to confirm or deny this on his twitter account in days know if it real. For someone who says he is connected to his fans it would be nice to not give us all false hope like this.

Well you see, it's stuff like this that has so many people guessing and speculating about what's really going on. Last thing I heard regarding Danielson and his twitter account was that he'd changed his name from "Daniel Bryan" to Bryan Danielson. There hasn't been any comment from him whatsoever, there's been no comment from any of the higher ups in WWE, some people have told me that his profile and picture is still up on the WWE website. A lot of this doesn't fit the typical pattern of a release by either the wrestler in question or the WWE in and of itself. Jim Ross mentioned this in his blog yesterday and while he's no longer a commentator, he's kept informed about the goings on of major storylines and angles. The last few sentences in his blog suggests the possibility that this might be a work itself.

Some of it seems legit and some of it seems like a work. If it's legit, I think it's a huge mistake. If it's a work, then it's been to continue the interest of internet fans in the NXT Invasion angle and get them to tune in to Raw Monday. The WWE has been making more use and references to certain websites like twitter and internet fans since NXT debuted, particularly in regards to Danielson. During a backstage promo that happened on NXT shortly after Danielson was "eliminated", he said something to the effect of not knowing who "Daniel Bryan" is and did refer to himself as Bryan Danielson. "Daniel Bryan" is a name the WWE gave to him and maybe "Daniel Bryan" has been "released" from the WWE. Bryan Danielson, however, wasn't "created" by the WWE and it goes along nicely with the anti-WWE symbolism that's been incorporated into the NXT Invasion angle. But, then again, all that might possibly be a coincidence and Danielson really has been fired.

 

[trendkiller]

Well you see, it's stuff like this that has so many people guessing and speculating about what's really going on. Last thing I heard regarding Danielson and his twitter account was that he'd changed his name from "Daniel Bryan" to Bryan Danielson. There hasn't been any comment from him whatsoever, there's been no comment from any of the higher ups in WWE, some people have told me that his profile and picture is still up on the WWE website. A lot of this doesn't fit the typical pattern of a release by either the wrestler in question or the WWE in and of itself. Jim Ross mentioned this in his blog yesterday and while he's no longer a commentator, he's kept informed about the goings on of major storylines and angles. The last few sentences in his blog suggests the possibility that this might be a work itself.

Some of it seems legit and some of it seems like a work. If it's legit, I think it's a huge mistake. If it's a work, then it's been to continue the interest of internet fans in the NXT Invasion angle and get them to tune in to Raw Monday. The WWE has been making more use and references to certain websites like twitter and internet fans since NXT debuted, particularly in regards to Danielson. During a backstage promo that happened on NXT shortly after Danielson was "eliminated", he said something to the effect of not knowing who "Daniel Bryan" is and did refer to himself as Bryan Danielson. "Daniel Bryan" is a name the WWE gave to him and maybe "Daniel Bryan" has been "released" from the WWE. Bryan Danielson, however, wasn't "created" by the WWE and it goes along nicely with the anti-WWE symbolism that's been incorporated into the NXT Invasion angle. But, then again, all that might possibly be a coincidence and Danielson really has been fired.

You'd also have to take into consideration the fact that his "release" still hasn't been noted on WWE Corporate, which is extremely odd if it's legit.

I still think it's a work, based on the things you've noticed and the fact that there's NOTHING on WWE Corporate.

 

[InuJoshua]

What's annoying is that Bryan hasn't bothered to confirm or deny this on his twitter account in days know if it real. For someone who says he is connected to his fans it would be nice to not give us all false hope like this.

This is the reason I still think it's a work.

For someone who's so connected to the IWC, he's being suspiciously quiet about the whole thing. If he's unemployed, there's nothing stopping him from saying he's fired, rather than let questions and speculation build up.

I think either this is all part of some kind of angle or even an excuse to get him off of TV while they build up his firing on TV, or he really was fired, but only until the choking controversy blows over and they rehire him in a few weeks.

Until there's official word from Danielson or he appears on another promotion, I'll lean towards the idea that this is a work.

 

[RVDgurl]

So much specualtion- it's great. Who the hell knows at this point what real and what's a work. It really could go either way. The WWE has made the NXT storyline seem very real from the "reality" based show to the Cole/Danielson angle. I won't be shocked at all if this is just furthering the storyline. Afterall, is coking a guy for a few seconds with a tie even the most violent thing that happened in that segment? Heath Slater choked John Cena with the ring rope during all of that chaos as well and he hasn't been fired.

If this is indeed the end of Daniel Bryan, then so be it. It's just a shame that he had to be the scapegoat for the entire situation. He's a performer and was only following the storyline. He did nothing worse than the other participants. TNA has to be salivating at what they could do with Danielson's momentum- "the guy too violent for the WWE". It's a gold mine. Of course, future endeavored just means he can come back home to ROH.

 

[AshleyFTW]

You'd also have to take into consideration the fact that his "release" still hasn't been noted on WWE Corporate, which is extremely odd if it's legit.

I still think it's a work, based on the things you've noticed and the fact that there's NOTHING on WWE Corporate.

Nothing is noted on Corporate because this release has nothing to do with wellness, recent releases (Atlas, Jeff Hardy etc) haven't been on there.

Carlito's is on there purely because of the wellness issue of his release

 

[martymcfly]

I think it's real, and he's gone. Seriously, if it was all story-line related, the WWE would have "fired" the entire batch of NXT season 1 rookies. It doesn't make sense in a storyline that they would just fire one of them out of the blue but leave the rest untouched.

It seems odd though that it would be the tie incident--perhaps it was that in conjunction with other things. Maybe he rubbed someone the wrong way backstage. Maybe spitting in Cena's face didn't go over too well. But whatever it was, I think he's gone.

 

[DanielJSR]

This whole NXT invasion angle was very good and I reckon it's the most interesting thing they've done in a long while. No-one saw the angle coming, it wasn't leaked into the IWC in anyway, and the fact that it was unexpected made it all the more special. The WWE have got a nice little thing here. They've created an interesting storyline which has got the IWC and the WWE Universe talking.

I think it is good that Cena got the beatdown. He normally overcomes all so this has made it good and it is part the reason why this is such a good angle. It harks back to what we call the good ol' days.

If it is a work then props to the WWE for doing something tasty.
If it's legit then guys, you dropped the ball on this one. You had the most interesting storyline in WWE for some time and you cocked it up. If it is because of the strangulation incident then thats just daft. What about all the chokeslams, choking with the ropes and sleeper holds since? If BDB does go to TNA, then it will be predictable, but at least he can cut a good promo, if practically writes itself. I'm DBD, WWE couldn't handle me... backstage this... politics that... TNA FTW etc...

However, all this talk about it, has made me want to watch RAW - I'm going to stay up to watch it live, I'm interested to see what happens next which is something I've not said about the WWE for a while. I was stoked about Jan 4th's head to head, but apart from that and this, i've not been this stoked about a WWE show in years, not since I was a young'un

 

[Silent~Screamer]

I'd like to say this whole thing is an angle, but sadly, its not. See, when buttfucks like Justin Roberts and Cena complain to Vinne Mac, he'll do anything they say. Maybe not so much as Justin Roberts, but if Cena wanted Orton out of WWE Vince would do it right away. If Cena threatened to leave WWE Vince would get rid of any of the wrestlers, unless they happened to be Triple H.

I'm pretty sure Cena's ego was a little damaged when Danielson spit in his face and yelled, "you are not better than me." As awesome and true as that is, Cena doesn't want any competition, or any negative reaction so he went to Vince and got him the hell out of there. Fuck you John Cena, fuck you PG rating and fuck you WWE management. You just lost some great talent over a planned angle.

 

[modest-genius]

I'm pretty sure Cena's ego was a little damaged when Danielson spit in his face and yelled, "you are not better than me." As awesome and true as that is, Cena doesn't want any competition, or any negative reaction so he went to Vince and got him the hell out of there. Fuck you John Cena, fuck you PG rating and fuck you WWE management. You just lost some great talent over a planned angle.

Yeah. Sure. Cena who agreed to take bump after bump last night in a row, impact clotheslines, huge slam by Barrett, stiff kick from Danielson, and a huge 450 splash, and you are actually having a go at him. Cena represented last week, if Cena was actually "like that" which he clearly isn't, don't you think he would have gotten Vince to bury Danielson in a match with him?

If Bryan is done I will be very upset, but history has led me to believe Cena respects the WWE and wrestling and is looking out for wrestlings best interests, not his own.

 

[modest-genius]

I think it's real, and he's gone. Seriously, if it was all story-line related, the WWE would have "fired" the entire batch of NXT season 1 rookies. It doesn't make sense in a storyline that they would just fire one of them out of the blue but leave the rest untouched.

If it is a work I can see RAW opening with Bret in the ring, claiming he fired Daniel Bryan to make an example of the NXT rookies. Now if any of them want to toe my [Brets] line and make an impact and earn a full contract, unlike the development one Daniel had, then they can't pull any more of the stuff that happening last week or they'll all be fired.

And then at the end of the night Bret could get mugged by the NXT rookies along with Bryan