Could Taker stop Lesnar from winning the title

I think he could in the short term. I don't think WWE is in any hurry to get the belt off Seth. I also think now that Brock has, by circumstance more than anything else, sort of morphed into a face it would be interesting to see crowd reaction with Lesnar/Taker especially if Taker was playing more the heel role. It would certainly be a swerve that fans wouldn't be expecting for this upcoming ppv.
 
1 - The possibility skyrockets when Lesnar is wrestling a broken down 50-year old man. The last things we needs is a repeat of WM30.
2 - They're full time competitors. It's different for part-timers.
3 - Undertaker screwing Lesnar, a face, out of the title would be a heel move. It would also connect Undertaker with the Authority.
4 - Everyone knows it's pre-determined, but it needs to be logically pre-determined. There's zero logic in a broken down 50-year old man defeating a former UFC competitor.

"Those three reasons" was just a typo.

1 - WM30 was 100% Lesnar's fault. His sloppiness caused Undertaker's injury. There's always the possibility it could happen again, but if Ric Flair can wrestle well into his 50's without suffering a serious injury, so can Undertaker.
2 - Yes, it gets far MORE repetitive with full-time performers. I'll take another Lesnar/Undertaker match over yet another Ambrose/Rollins match any day of the week.
3 - I already answered this in my other post. But the simple answer remains that the VAST majority of fans will cheer Undertaker over Brock Lesnar no matter what.
4 - "Logic" in terms of who would win a real fight is completely and totally irrelevant in WWE. Going by that kind of "logic", a magical middle-aged zombie wearing eyeliner never would have had 21 straight victories at WrestleMania; Rey Mysterio never would have won a match, ever, against any competitor; and Mark Henry would be undefeated, because his bear hug would result in instantaneous submissions from any opponent.
 
The fans will not boo Taker and treat him like a heel. It's not going to happen at this stage in his career.

Of course, they won't. At this stage of 'Taker's career, it would take something catastrophic to get fans to boo him.....and it would never happen while he battles Lesnar, a guy whom we aren't 100% sure is truly a face. At any rate, Brock's history hardly indicates a reason to trust him to cater to the fans and be a genuine good guy.

Still, could 'Taker somehow involve himself in Brock's match with Seth Rollins and cost Lesnar a title win? Sure, he could.....the writers could come up with many scenarios that might cause it to happen, with a minimum of physical involvement by Undertaker.

In fact, just the specter of seeing 'Taker might be enough; during the Lesnar-Rollins match, 'Taker stands at the top of the runway and stares at Brock; his menacing presence has distracted other wrestlers in the past, right? Brock appears mesmerized at the sight and Seth uses the pause to cheat and get the win.

From there?........nothing. Brock would go back to concentrating on Rollins, while the interference by Undertaker would be forgotten. When (and if) 'Taker returns to the ring, it would be at WM32.

Hey, how's this for a scenario? WM32 features Sting vs. 'Taker.....and Brock interferes, giving Sting the win and Brock his revenge?

Just a thought.
 
1 - WM30 was 100% Lesnar's fault. His sloppiness caused Undertaker's injury. There's always the possibility it could happen again, but if Ric Flair can wrestle well into his 50's without suffering a serious injury, so can Undertaker.
2 - Yes, it gets far MORE repetitive with full-time performers. I'll take another Lesnar/Undertaker match over yet another Ambrose/Rollins match any day of the week.
3 - I already answered this in my other post. But the simple answer remains that the VAST majority of fans will cheer Undertaker over Brock Lesnar no matter what.
4 - "Logic" in terms of who would win a real fight is completely and totally irrelevant in WWE. Going by that kind of "logic", a magical middle-aged zombie wearing eyeliner never would have had 21 straight victories at WrestleMania; Rey Mysterio never would have won a match, ever, against any competitor; and Mark Henry would be undefeated, because his bear hug would result in instantaneous submissions from any opponent.

1 - Lesnar is reckless, and there's a chance anyone that steps into the squared circle with him gets injured. That chance greatly increases when it's a 50-year old man. Again, the last thing we need is a WM30 repeat.
2 - The point was that both Rollins and Ambrose are full time and have more feuds/matches. Lesnar and Taker are both part time and have very few feuds/matches, so they shouldn't be wasted on rematches.
3 - I never said Brock Lesnar would be cheered over Undertaker. I said it would be a heel move for Taker to screw Lesnar out of the title, and it would connect Taker with the Authority.
4 - I know pro wrestling is pre-determined and that you have to suspend your disbelief. I get that. What I'm saying is a broken down 50-year old man has no business in defeating a former UFC fighter.
 
He could but for what reason? Because Lesnar beat him at Mania 1.5 years ago? Why didn't he interfere in any of Brock's title matches when he was champ? I get that wwe isn't into logic much anymore but what is a pretty big stretch.
 
Its a kind of dream story line, but I can't see it happening.

If undertaker didn't get a rematch with Brock at this years wm, there's no chance at the next one.

I also don't think Seth can beat Brock without help though. Since he's turned his back on Kane, it makes me think "who is going to team up with Seth?" The shield re unite and turning heels?
 
On Sunday Rollins will face Lesnar for the title and in the build up Lesnar has taken out all of his back up bar HHH who is unlikely to help so if WWE is looking to keep the belt on Rollins without letting him win clean this leads to the potential for a DQ, Countout or Return and after seeing the recent speculation about a Taker return to build to Summerslam could we see Taker stop Lesnar winning the title and in the process turn heel and go into Summerslam feuding with a face Lesnar in his attempt to avenge the loss at Mania 30, if he was to win aswell it could also open up the possibility of a 3rd match at Mania 32 with Lesnar v Taker III as the headline match

Your thoughts on a possible Taker return? Whether he should feud with Lesnar? If no who? and what you think will happen in the title match at BG?

I'd love to see him return but only to put over a younger talent like Kevin Owens. He shouldn't feud with Brock. The window for that rematch has passed.

I think Rollins win by DQ because Kane interferes and goes after Rollins.
 
I can see Taker saying he has nothing left to prove except to beat Lesnar in his last match, but then Sting coming out and saying something like Undertaker has one more thing to prove and that's beating him. That way Sting VS Undertaker at Summerslam can happen and Undertaker vs Brock at Wrestlemania can happen.
 
I can see Taker saying he has nothing left to prove except to beat Lesnar in his last match, but then Sting coming out and saying something like Undertaker has one more thing to prove and that's beating him. That way Sting VS Undertaker at Summerslam can happen and Undertaker vs Brock at Wrestlemania can happen.

Did you watch the Taker/Lesnar match at Mania? Did you see Taker getting thrown around like a rag doll? It took months for him to recover from that, and you want him to do it again.

I reiterate my point from earlier. Taker should never step into the ring with Lesnar again. Lesnar is a fighting machine and Taker is a 50 year old man, who quite frankly can't take that kind of abuse anymore. With all due respect to Taker I'm not sure he ever could.

Sting lost his first match against HHH, which I think was a mistake, and he will probably only wrestle one more at the next Mania. I can't see him holding out for so many years only to come in and lose two in a row. The is most likely be Takers last year as well, and for all his given to the product, I don't want him to go out on a loss either. These two if they step into the ring together should form a tag team and both go out on a winning note. Makes the fans happy and there are no regrets later.
 
Uh, Lesnar is the biggest babyface in the company. Tell me again why they would jeopardise that machine against Taker? It has taken them far too long to close the wounds of Lesnar going over Taker at WrestleMania. Tell me again why they would want to reopen them? This doesn't make sense and I have absolutely no idea where it is coming from. Does anyone have a source stating that Taker is coming back apart from fucking Reddit?

Taker hasn't been back in the WWE for anything other than a WrestleMania match in years, why is this suddenly changing?

Get real.
 
Cant see Rollins taking out Lesnar on his own so either they broke what they established few weeks prior and someone of Authority(maybe HHH) gets involved, or someone as Taker gets involved. Its kinda pointless to bill Taker at this stage as heel, but nobody cant deny that Taker/Lesnar 2 would be moneymaker for Summerslam. Though am hating that Rollins will in that case pull another "chickensheet heel" victory with another interference.
 
Sting lost his first match against HHH, which I think was a mistake, and he will probably only wrestle one more at the next Mania. I can't see him holding out for so many years only to come in and lose two in a row. The is most likely be Takers last year as well, and for all his given to the product, I don't want him to go out on a loss either. These two if they step into the ring together should form a tag team and both go out on a winning note. Makes the fans happy and there are no regrets later.

It might have been. But, no way in hell was VKM going to allow a living symbol of everything NWA/WCW getting over above his Son-in-Law, one of the men who ignited the Attitude Era. It would have discredited everything WWF did in its victory over WCW if Sting defeated Trips. Sadly, I still feel that Sting entering a WWE ring was a mistake to begin with. There was a "What if?" mystery surrounding him. Sometimes you need that.

As for Taker interfearing: Get real. Taker is NOT going to face Lesnar, a real-life badass, again. That is if Mr. Calaway values his health. He'll come back at Mania, do a cameo, and fade into the sunset like he should have done after losing to the Beast Incarnate.
 
It might have been. But, no way in hell was VKM going to allow a living symbol of everything NWA/WCW getting over above his Son-in-Law, one of the men who ignited the Attitude Era. It would have discredited everything WWF did in its victory over WCW if Sting defeated Trips. Sadly, I still feel that Sting entering a WWE ring was a mistake to begin with. There was a "What if?" mystery surrounding him. Sometimes you need that.

Except for Vince, who connected Sting with WCW upon seeing his debut at Survivor Series? The match should have been Sting vs. Triple H and not WCW vs. WWF.
 
Uh, Lesnar is the biggest babyface in the company. Tell me again why they would jeopardise that machine against Taker? It has taken them far too long to close the wounds of Lesnar going over Taker at WrestleMania. Tell me again why they would want to reopen them? This doesn't make sense and I have absolutely no idea where it is coming from. Does anyone have a source stating that Taker is coming back apart from fucking Reddit?

Taker hasn't been back in the WWE for anything other than a WrestleMania match in years, why is this suddenly changing?

Get real.

Indeed.

No reason for either of them to be fighting each other again, ntm, I have thought and thought about it, but can't come up with a single benefit in having them face each other regardless of who is Face or Heel in a feud. Total waste of time, lMO.


However, if Taker is to return to stop Authority interference on Lesnar, and winds up feuding with Rollins & the Authority, whilst Lesnar is sidetracked/taken out, then I have no issue whatsoever as long as Rollins still has the title after SummerSlam.




ON another note:
Assuming Sting-Taker at Mania 32 could be in the works, I feel Taker going after the Authority would be a good starting point, as Sting could also come in as an Ally, before they both knock heads going into Mania 32.
 
Except for Vince, who connected Sting with WCW upon seeing his debut at Survivor Series? The match should have been Sting vs. Triple H and not WCW vs. WWF.

How about the ones who bought the tickets? The audience are not all eight-year-olds screaming, "Mommy, I wanna see John Cena!". A great many people knew Sting was with WCW and TNA. It was the Attitude Era match the IWC and old-school fans wanted to see happen. They got it, and destroyed another mystery of Pro Wrestling.
 
Please no. Keep Taker as far away from Lesnar as possible. Neither needs to do anything with the other. If Taker is so pissy about The Streak ending he has had over a year and a handful of Lesnar title matches to make his presence felt. It is too late to make me care. I'm not all that excited about Taker/Sting or Taker/Cena but id much rather have that than Taker/Lesnar again.

Just have Sheamus cash in so he can enter the match legally and give Rollins the win aligning Sheamus as Kane's replacement in The Authority. Anything but Taker/Lesnar again. It wasn't fun the first time and only feels worse as Taker gets older.
 
How about the ones who bought the tickets? The audience are not all eight-year-olds screaming, "Mommy, I wanna see John Cena!". A great many people knew Sting was with WCW and TNA. It was the Attitude Era match the IWC and old-school fans wanted to see happen. They got it, and destroyed another mystery of Pro Wrestling.

I think you missed the point. When I look at Sting, I don't see WCW. I see Sting, a separate wrestler with his own identity. Therefore, there's no point in having Sting represent WCW in a ridiculous revival of the Monday Night Wars from 15 years earlier. Even more ridiculous to have Sting lose to HHH just because WWF won the war.
 
If they are going the route of Taker vs. Brock than yes it could happen, I hope not it has been a year and 4 months later. We do not need to see Taker get beat on again, we also do not need to see Brock win the Title and sit at home with it. Seth will find a way to win with help from someone else and that someone will fight Brock at Summerslam.
 
Annnnd...it happened...annnd it was stupid. The worst - Taker returns - moment ever. The crowds seemed to like it though. But it was just stupid. What a dumb main event and even dumber ending.
 
Annnnd...it happened...annnd it was stupid. The worst - Taker returns - moment ever. The crowds seemed to like it though. But it was just stupid. What a dumb main event and even dumber ending.

And it's not like there's any point in another Brock/Taker feud. Not now, not at WM. Brock gains nothing by beating Taker again. And there's no benefit in putting Taker over Brock. It's not like they're going to start Taker on another streak. Maybe they could somehow parlay it into a Taker vs. Sting program.

The funny thing is if you've ever seen Max Landis' "Wrestling Isn't Wrestling," it pokes fun at HHH refusal to step out of the spotlight, using his 2 WM matches with Taker as examples. But ironically, Undertaker's the one who should have used the end of the steak to ride off into the sunset.
 
I was wrong. I said they wouldn't be stupid enough to have Undertaker return and go after Lesnar, thereby killing Lesnar's huge babyface momentum. But they're doing it. Undertaker waited a year and half and even had a feud with Bray Wyatt in between but I guess NOW he's decided he wants revenge for the Streak ending. Even though if he beats Lesnar the Streak is still dead and Lesnar still holds many other PPV wins over him. If Lesnar doesn't go over again it will be even worse.
 
I think he could in the short term. I don't think WWE is in any hurry to get the belt off Seth. I also think now that Brock has, by circumstance more than anything else, sort of morphed into a face it would be interesting to see crowd reaction with Lesnar/Taker especially if Taker was playing more the heel role. It would certainly be a swerve that fans wouldn't be expecting for this upcoming ppv.

Expected something like this. If for no other reason there is no rush to put the belt back on Lesnar. This is the only credible person on the roster to have any kind of impact on Lesnar the way they've built him up.
 
Did anybody think to realize that maybe Undertaker returning to attack Lesnar could be a start of buildup to a an eventual feud with Sting? Think about it before you bast the idea, if Undertaker joins the Authority to help Seth Rollins and the rest of the Authority it could lead to an eventual Sting return to help take out the Authority once and for all. We don't know which side Kane will return back on to help as both Lesnar AND Rollins took him out before Battleground. Sting has unfinished business with the Authority and you know he will want to avenge his loss at Wrestlemania this year too. We will just have to wait and see how this plays out.
 
Did anybody think to realize that maybe Undertaker returning to attack Lesnar could be a start of buildup to a an eventual feud with Sting? Think about it before you bast the idea, if Undertaker joins the Authority to help Seth Rollins and the rest of the Authority it could lead to an eventual Sting return to help take out the Authority once and for all. We don't know which side Kane will return back on to help as both Lesnar AND Rollins took him out before Battleground. Sting has unfinished business with the Authority and you know he will want to avenge his loss at Wrestlemania this year too. We will just have to wait and see how this plays out.

I suppose that's a good way of thinking about it ....even if we ( UGHHH ! ) have to go through Lesnar vs Undertaker again for it to happen. I'll add in another ( UHHH ! ) at Undertaker trying to sell a belly to back suplex....then another one.
 

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