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Coming to a WrestleMania near you...Cena vs. Punk

Punk Vs Cena

  • Yes, could go down as one of the best rivalries ever

  • No, wouldn't work


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What they f*ck happened in the thread section here
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And in these few moments of interaction, you just get a glimpse of what could be, probably, the best chemistry/feud waiting to happen.

Who wouldn't wanna see a long and winding Road to WM with these two duking it out? ESPECIALLY NO HOLDS BARRED ON THE MIC (under PG supervision of course)

True they have faced off before, but this thoroughly deserves THE grandest stage of 'em all.

So your call people, poll's above and gimme some solid feedback as to what you think would or would not make this work.

EDIT: Love how Punk drops the can so nonchalantly!
 
yup. fantastic idea.

2 of the best on the mic the wwe has today. large crowd reactions. no holds barred battles.

punk could chop cena down by bringing up what john already knows, 'most of the fans cant stand you, so why continue to strive for thier approval?'

john always has some great comebacks & fits well within the constraints of the 'pg rating'.

punk could carry him & make the match pure gold. making cena futher the 'super-hero' & gaining punk more cred as one of the best heels' in history.

cant wait to see if this takes place.
 
I love this idea, also on raw Cm Punk said he was angry at a superstar and he will get back at him maybe he means Cena? I think this would be a good way for Cena not to be in a predictable title match. I think these two would have good chemistry as well but I also wouldnt mind Punk becoming a Tweener when he returns.
 
After all the feuds Cena's had, I see little possibilities for him to do something new at Wrestlemania this year. While CM Punk is something new for John Cena, I doubt this kind of feud would go without a World title. The main event for the Royal Rumble all but set in stone. And nor Cena or Punk are near it. I'm thinking if Cena will do something at Wrestlemania it will probably be against Randy Orton again given the interaction the two have had lately.
 
I really enjoy the concept of this idea, however I hope they don't build it around spilled diet soda. That would ruin it from the get go, regardless of the outcome.

I could see it being about Cena pandering to what the people in the crowd care about, while Punk stands on his own. While that is what Punk will obviously have most of his feuds start out with, it'd be interesting to see Punk try and force Cena to make the wrong decision in order to win certain matches and have him challenge his morals. While Nexus has done similar things, they didn't care whether or not Cena wanted to do this.

Punk could relish in the idea that Cena actually wants to in Punk's mind and he wants to expose him. It could get a little dark with Punk making Cena choose between saving this person, or this person or doing something else, and having to fail in one way or another.

Could be a very interesting storyline.
 
yup. fantastic idea.


punk could chop cena down by bringing up what john already knows, 'most of the fans cant stand you, so why continue to strive for thier approval?'



.

just thought of something with this said it could be the start of a heel cena punk could cost cena match after match and say why do you strive for there approval cena could start beating on people or fake fans.... and get instant heat lol imagine the faces of the people if cena took a prop fan and beat the shit out of em lol
i voted yes on the poll be a great match also what do you guys think of the heel idea?
 
Anything to do with CM Punk is always going to be golden, he's just that damn good.

I want to see a Punk-Cena feud, but I don't want Cena to win at Wrestlemania. Have a long feud with Cena eliminating Punk at the Royal Rumble, than Punk Eliminating Cena at Elimination Chamber. Thus culminating in a feud at Wrestlemania, where Punk can create great build with his great mic work. If Punk is put over at Wrestlemania to really cement his status as a main eventer, I think that would be great. It would be just pointless to have Cena beat him at Wrestlemania, and end the feud. Where does Punk go from there?
 
Absolutely could work. John Cena is the biggest draw right now, love him or hate him; however, in today's PG era, someone like CM Punk who preaches against drug use could (and in a lot of minds, SHOULD) be the biggest draw. It doesn't have to be about the spilling of a diet soda. It should be about wanting influence and being the biggest draw. They've teased a CM Punk face turn (at least as an announcer) but why not as a wrestler? Have two mega stars competing for the hearts and worship of all the kids in crowed.
 
I couldnt agree more on the chemistry between the two. Its obvious, kayfabe wise, that Punk has no love for Cena. He's said as much in the promos he's cut before facing him, and while announcing. They would need a concrete storyline here, as both men seem involved in other things for a good while. But given said storyline, the mic work alone could carry the feud for several months.

I also agree that this could be a money feud. But not right now. Punk had the worst season of his career in 2010. He lost his feud to Rey Mysterio, and then to Big Show. The hottest faction of the time was dissolved, The SES, of which Punk was the leader. He then was drafted to Raw, and was immediately shelved due to injury.

What Im saying is that Punk would need to restore credibility, and fast. The problem is, time is running out, and Punk is still injured. For anyone to think that Punk would even have a chance against Cena, he would need to return soon, and be dominant, perhaps even winning the EC. Thats the only way i could truly see credibility in this feud at this time.

And true, they've squared off before, but Cena beat him each time in what was a glorified squash. Their match in the Superstar of the Year tournament in 09 comes to mind, when Cena made Punk tap out in less then 2 minutes. From WHC to being squashed by Cena(who happens to be my favorite wrestler), was a huge mistaske. The other two times I recall them facing off were solid matches, with the one being the debut of Nexus.

One of the biggest ways WWE entices viewers to watch Wrestlemania is by having a sense of believability that a lesser superstar such as Punk can beat the more established dominant superstar in Cena. I reference Cena/Batista last year, where it looked like the once dominant Cena looked quite vulnearble heading into his Wrestlemania match with Batista. It would be hard to suspend disbelief with where each is in their current placement that Punk could beat Cena.

I have no doubt it would be one heck of a match, and one heck of a feud. Given the proper storyline, they would need to establish Punk as being able to beat Cena. The previous times they've wrestled, Punk's looked like he doesn't belong in Cena's league. That would make this match far less enticing, as well as predictable. And that's a route that WWE needs to avoid for their biggest show of the year.
 
I could see this happening
but I think more realisticly would be Cena V orton, barret, miz whatever (taker?)
and Punk v Bryan
and quite honestly
Punk v bryan 30 minute iron match?
gold.

maybe later on in the year
they could have a match at summerslam or a big ppv with a lotta buildup
 
Has it reached the stage where we have fueds over a soda? well, there was Arquette on RAW so anything is possible. Only a casual fan, who tuned into last weeks RAW, having not watched WWE in maybe 4months could suggest the idea of Cena v Punk at WM. JC has been fueding with Barrett, Nexus, Orton and by proxy, the Miz(erable) over the last 6 months and now, all that gets thrown out the window - with just 2 ppvs to go before? Complete lunacy!

It becomes bottom water of the highest order when you consider it would likely involve moving JC out of the ME picture - as that is going to involve Orton, Miz(erable), JoMo and in all likelihood Trips by the time of WM. If Trips comes back and faces Seamus at WM, that leaves JoMo, Orton and Miz(erable) - considering Orton/Miz has been done to death and JoMo is far from a bankable draw, there is noway creative would not want or need to have JC in the WWE title picture. With Punk out injured - that means no time to either re-establish his title chances (barring a RR 'surprise') or credibility.

Plus, want becomes of Nexus? Barrett might get fed to Taker, but that leaves the rest of them. Even by WWE standards, it would look momumentally stupid to suddenly drop Cena/Nexus before WM - which again crowds out Punk.

I also don't see the attraction of two - Cena WILL NEVER turn heel. (please, please stop trying to think of ways to turn him heel, it is just wasted space) So that leaves the post boy for PG against the man preaching the PG values of no drugs, alcohol etc. Yes, Punk could be made a 'heel' - but the IWC has been bleating for months about the lack of faces on RAW, so why shoot down the chance to create another PG bankable face? Again, no logical business reason.

My biggest grip though, is that it would be such a waste of Punk. The presence of Danielson, Bourne and Punk on Raw and Kaval/Del Rio on SD is the last reason I have for watching WWE. I can fast forward through the Cena/Nexus or Edge/Kane BS and even worse ring sections and watch skilled performers like Danielson and when he returns, Punk put on great matches and make JC, Orton and Miz(erable) look like the wooden, limited workers and bad actors they are. If you mix Punk and Cena, you don't improve JC, its impossible - he'll always be shit, but the few real wrestling fans there are watching WWE for Punk etc, would turn off because it's the Cena shite that they hate. Don't tar Punk or Danielson with the stain of working with Cena.

As BreakDownTheWalls said, put Punk and Danielson in a match at WM for the US title. It will give the real fans something worth the PPV price and then they can leave the 7yr olds and ******s to match Cena, Orton, Miz(erable) and/or Trips put on the normal over scripted shite fest in the 'ME'. PV
 
Has it reached the stage where we have fueds over a soda? well, there was Arquette on RAW so anything is possible. Only a casual fan, who tuned into last weeks RAW, having not watched WWE in maybe 4months could suggest the idea of Cena v Punk at WM. JC has been fueding with Barrett, Nexus, Orton and by proxy, the Miz(erable) over the last 6 months and now, all that gets thrown out the window - with just 2 ppvs to go before? Complete lunacy!

It becomes bottom water of the highest order when you consider it would likely involve moving JC out of the ME picture - as that is going to involve Orton, Miz(erable), JoMo and in all likelihood Trips by the time of WM. If Trips comes back and faces Seamus at WM, that leaves JoMo, Orton and Miz(erable) - considering Orton/Miz has been done to death and JoMo is far from a bankable draw, there is noway creative would not want or need to have JC in the WWE title picture. With Punk out injured - that means no time to either re-establish his title chances (barring a RR 'surprise') or credibility.

Plus, want becomes of Nexus? Barrett might get fed to Taker, but that leaves the rest of them. Even by WWE standards, it would look momumentally stupid to suddenly drop Cena/Nexus before WM - which again crowds out Punk.

I also don't see the attraction of two - Cena WILL NEVER turn heel. (please, please stop trying to think of ways to turn him heel, it is just wasted space) So that leaves the post boy for PG against the man preaching the PG values of no drugs, alcohol etc. Yes, Punk could be made a 'heel' - but the IWC has been bleating for months about the lack of faces on RAW, so why shoot down the chance to create another PG bankable face? Again, no logical business reason.

My biggest grip though, is that it would be such a waste of Punk. The presence of Danielson, Bourne and Punk on Raw and Kaval/Del Rio on SD is the last reason I have for watching WWE. I can fast forward through the Cena/Nexus or Edge/Kane BS and even worse ring sections and watch skilled performers like Danielson and when he returns, Punk put on great matches and make JC, Orton and Miz(erable) look like the wooden, limited workers and bad actors they are. If you mix Punk and Cena, you don't improve JC, its impossible - he'll always be shit, but the few real wrestling fans there are watching WWE for Punk etc, would turn off because it's the Cena shite that they hate. Don't tar Punk or Danielson with the stain of working with Cena.

As BreakDownTheWalls said, put Punk and Danielson in a match at WM for the US title. It will give the real fans something worth the PPV price and then they can leave the 7yr olds and ******s to match Cena, Orton, Miz(erable) and/or Trips put on the normal over scripted shite fest in the 'ME'. PV

Let me address a few things here-

First of all the soda bit is a general glimpse of what great chemistry these two can develop. NO, they won't be competing in a Soda on A Pole Match at WM, OK?

Secondly, I am not talking about THIS Wrestlemania in particular. Although Punk is scheduled to return at a house show and could compete as early as the Rumble, Cena is too embroiled with Nexus to be locked into anything else. ( a three way dance with Miz and Orton is probable)

And lastly, Malenko316, Cena vs Punk is a bigger draw than Danielson Vs Punk in this day and age. Sure Bryan and Punk will have the better match but Danielson is mid-card and Punk is ME, upper-mid atleast. He should have a feud of his level at a show like WM and be given his chance to compete in his first WM Main Event.

Also, Who said anything about Cena turnin' heel?!?
 
punk has been philosophical in his promos. First thing that strikes me when i think of him feuding Cena is that Punk can get real close and personal with cena, make him realize where he stands as far as his respect in locker room and with old school wrestling fans is concerned. He can convince Cena, that he being a messiah can help Cena overcome this, but Cena has to accept his as his saviour. He can get inside Cena's head, wearing him down mentally, so that Cena will start looking up to Punk for his help. Punk will start teaching Cena some Mat skills, so that he can compete with wrestlers who has better mat skills. He will convince him to play to his opponents' strengths (like mat skills as i mentioned), and loose confidence in his own skills.

Punk and Cena are the only two people in WWE who can pull this off in a big way. It will take weeks and weeks to develop. It will pull Punk to his biggest stardom in WWE. It can lead to amazing promos, and innovative wrestling matches. It can lead to Cena and Punk both growing as character.

This feud has a lot of potential, as far as its length, intensity, innovation, and unpredictability of storyline goes. I don't want to predict the end of this feud, since

Having said this, i would prefer this feud to happen after Wrestlemania 27. If it happens now, it would kill the momentum of cena-nexus storyline. But, a nice teaser every now and then about this feud will not hurt.
 
Yes it would be a great feud but I'd like to see this at Wrestlemania 28 rather than 27. Punk, as of late, has been nowhere near the main event level while Cena has been a constant main eventer. Right now the only main event for Wrestlemania 27 that I could see would be Cena vs Orton as Orton can match Cena's level of popularity, at the moment.

So the best thing that Punk could do would be to build up his heat by feuding with the likes of Bryan and other upper midcarders of his ilk and only then go after Cena.
 
I disagree that this CANNOT happen this year. Cena looks done with Nexus storyline. A lotta great feuds kick-start because of the Royal Rumble match. Punk could be a surprise entrant while he is doing commentary and Cena could be the guy who eliminates him or even better VICE-VERSA!

3 months to build a titanic feud. Has worked before.
 
Now that this storyline is a go as things stand, the best approach would be for Punk to find a legit reason for nailing Cena. Don't think he can use sXe principles here.

They have to be more concrete, but then again these two could make anything relevant at this point. And looks like it WON'T be for the World Title.
 
Well it looks like the groundwork has been laid out for this feud. I'm not sure if Punk is ready to go in the ring yet. This could be a great match up at Rumble or even WrestleMania. However, I doubt WWE will put CM Punk in a match with Cena at the biggest show of the year. It could happen, but I think WWE is hoping for a bigger name to face Cena this year.

There isn't really anyone left Cena can feud with besides Punk or the Miz. We have seen their matches before. I wouldn't mind seeing this match at Mania, but I doubt WWE will book it.
 
Also what this could be is a throw-off feud to an impending Orton Vs Cena match at 'Mania

While all the attention is on Cena and Punk, the storyline could evolve into something that has Orton and Cena facing off like somewhere around Feb, kick starting this big money feud for the grandest stage.

But as things stand it's Cena Vs Punk and Miz vs Orton at WM.
 
I said I didn't believe that this was going to go to Mania, and I still don't. Odds are Cena will be in the title match and Punk will be in the upper midcard somewhere, but that doesn't mean it won't be an entertaining feud in the mean time. Cena's the top guy and Punk is undoubtedly one of the best all round performers in the company at this moment in time. This whole thing could draw some very, very interesting situations and has the potential for some excellent matches. If it does go to Mania, it'll more likely than not be for the title with Cena holding and Punk winning the Rumble. I may doubt it, but there's still always that possibility.
 
I'd pay to see this match. CM Punk can sell any rivalry with just a mic. Add Cena's mic skills to the mix and shit hits fan in the best possible way. I really hope this is what goes down because they could actually deliver one killer match. CM Punk's commentary has cemented him as one of the top stars in the company and I think the time has come for him to become a serious main-event player. Most of his world title reigns have been pretty lack-luster and he really hasn't been given a serious title run on RAW, and this could be the catalyst for him to take the brass ring.

Not to mention the program would just flat out be great
 
Ok so lately I have been hearing a lot about how the Cena vs CM Punk feud wont be able to last until Wrestlemania because there are still two PPV's between now and Mania and they will have to have a one on one match at one of them, and if they don't the feud will grow stale. Well I'm here to try and disprove that theory and prove that CM Punk vs John Cena can easily last until Wrestlemania and still keep it's heat.

Think about it they don't have to directly face off at either of those PPV's, at the Royal Rumble they can both be participants in the Rumble match, they can fight each other during the match and possibly even eliminate each other, we have seen this exact thing happen many times in the past. This would then add an extra dimension to their feud which they can carry through to Elimination Chamber.

Then at the Elimination Chamber PPV they can once again face off and keep the feud going without giving away the one on one match. Yes, they can both be in the Raw Elimination Chamber, they can have some confrontations during the match and then Punk can walk out with the title. This will then set up the title match at Wrestlemania.


I think that this proves that by waiting for the one on one match the feud will not lose heat quite the opposite actually it will gain it, by adding the extra dimension of the title and the fact that they eliminated each other from the rumble. I really hope that scenario or one similar does pan out as I feel this match does deserve to headline Wrestlemania.

What are your thoughts on this, am I spot on or am I way of the mark? Either way tell me about it in here.
 
I agree with you, I think why most people think it wont last that long is because in modern wrestling the art of the slow build is virtually lost, not because they don't want it to last until Wrestlemania.

I know the WWE are terrified to have Cena off TV for more than a week but personally what I'd do is have Punk attack him when he shows up next week and injure him so he can't take part in the Rumble. Then at the Rumble I'd have Cena in street clothes do a run in and cause Punk to be eliminated as part of the final 4.

Then at EC I'd have them both in the Raw title match and after Punk is eliminated I'd have him come back in with a chair when it's down to Cena and Miz, and cost Cena the title.

The feud will be molten by the time they go one on one at Wrestlemania!
 
I agree with you, I think why most people think it wont last that long is because in modern wrestling the art of the slow build is virtually lost, not because they don't want it to last until Wrestlemania.

I know the WWE are terrified to have Cena off TV for more than a week but personally what I'd do is have Punk attack him when he shows up next week and injure him so he can't take part in the Rumble. Then at the Rumble I'd have Cena in street clothes do a run in and cause Punk to be eliminated as part of the final 4.

Then at EC I'd have them both in the Raw title match and after Punk is eliminated I'd have him come back in with a chair when it's down to Cena and Miz, and cost Cena the title.

The feud will be molten by the time they go one on one at Wrestlemania!

Love this scenario and it just what I would do if I was booking this match! This is the kind of feud that needs the slow build to create so much more tension, suspense, and anticipation. Like HBK and Undertakers feuds leading into WM25 and WM26, they were both slow builds over a couple months time and that in my opinion had a lot to do with making the matches the classics they were when they finally met.

I will be greatly disappointed if the feud has it's climax and ends before WM27.
 
I think it can easily last until WM. The key is that they never have Punk actually face Cena (like you said).

Use the Nexus members as a gauntlet. Have Punk use other wrestlers as cannon fodder to building up the "Punk is dodging Cena" angle and creating anticipation for the actual one on one...

And when it looks like Punk is finally cornered into facing Cena, have him weasel his way out until 'Mania when there is that final face off.
 

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