Cena will not be taking over Nexus

[HardCoor]

In an earlier thread everyone was talking about how it seems like Cena will soon be taking over Nexus and turning heel. But This thread will be about how that can't possibly work. John Cena is easily the biggest face since Stone Cold or the Rock, some may argue even bigger. So to turn him heel it is going to take a lot of work. Stone Cold turned heel by aligning himself with Mr. McMahon, which seems to parallel what people think will happen with John Cena. However it seems as though most people saying that Cena will join Nexus and turn heel say that he will do it by attacking Barrett and turning the group on him.

I think if Cena and Nexus attack Barrett it would not work at all to turn Cena heel, this would turn Nexus face instead. I dont think Cena will be revealed to be working with Nexus and Barrett because why would he lead his own group to attack him, cost him the title, prevent him from regaining the title, just so a different member of the group could have it.

Stone Cold joined with McMahon to help Stone Cold win matches. What's in it for Cena if he joins with Barrett? It wouldn't make any sense at all for Cena to be revealed to be working with Nexus all along so he could give the title he originally had to Barrett. If that is their master plan why didnt Cena just challenge Barrett to a title match when Nexus first started, when Cena was champ, and let him win it then. It would have been much easier then the title moving to Sheamus then to Orton then try to help Barrett win it.

What I would like to hear from other people is do you agree that Cena cannot turn heel by taking Nexus from Barrett?
Do you agree that Cena can not be possibly working with Barrett?
If Cena is actually a member of Nexus what would be the explanation of him aligning himself with them? To end Taker's streak? Well then why cost himself the title and constantly get himself beaten down?

 

[wylieb0y]

He cant and wont. He will however, I feel, be turning heel. Definitely.

Cena will obviously cost Orton the WWE championship to get himself out of nexus. All the while playing to the fans saying he's back, he done it for them etc..but the fans will now be fully turned on Cena for costing Orton his title. The following weeks will show Cenas confusion, and eventual confrontation with the WWE universe, slowly transitioning himself as a full fledged heel.

Only way it can happen imo.

 

[Rammsteinerteen]

I'm not sure what will happen. The only little evidence I've heard was that Vince wants him as a heel. He wants Undertaker to fight a heel John Cena. (That might be put on hold.) I wouldn't even guess he was turning heel on SS, because Vince says so. But I honestly agree with you, Stone Cold's greatest feud of all time was with Mr. McMahon. Everybody hates Mr. McMahon, McMahon not only hates Stone Cold though. McMahon also screws every other popular dudes also. Thats what made people hate him more. So far, thats what WWE's doing with Nexus. Nexus has been interfering and ruining matches. They've been attacking Orton and Cena to gain heat. They even costed Undertaker his match last Sunday. People are now starting to treat Nexus like a tumor turned cancer. So if John Cena does decide to join them this Sunday, the fans will hate John Cena. John Cena needs to be a jerk, piss off the crowd. Starting a feud with the most popular stars in WWE is a great way. A feud with Orton, Undertaker, and maybe Triple H can kill John Cena's fanbase. I'm not sure if the fanbase will stop watching (I highly doubt it), but WWE will gain a new fanbase by turning Cena into a heel.

This is a note to anyone. Don't take this seriously. This is just my opinion, I don't even expect a lot of this to happen. But this is how I would do things, IF I wanted Cena to turn heel and takeover Nexus.

 

[closet_fan]

I think if Cena and Nexus attack Barrett it would not work at all to turn Cena heel, this would turn Nexus face instead.

you hit the nail on the head with this one. it's going to take more than just cena aligning with a group for him to turn heel. anything he touches is automatically going to be considered a face by the fans.

if cena hadn't gotten beaten down so many times earlier, it would make more sense. but because of this, any heel turn involving nexxus at this time just doesn't make sense.

of course, considering a lot of fans take nothing into consideration and eat everything vince throws at them, they could turn cena heel and some would still eat it up, not knowing it makes no sense because of prior incidents.

even if cena did turn heel, i don't know if he has the personality to be able to pull it off the right way.

 

[bringitback]

I disagree.

To look at it from the Cena VS Taker at Mania speculation, which from reports seems to be an idea McMahon is high on, it would make sense for Cena to be the leader of the group that led to Taker being buried alive. And as things stand, I can't think of any better way for Cena to turn heel than to align himself with the main heel group in the company.

I mean...how else would you go about turning him? Because from what I can see, it's the most natural direction to take from here.

 

[lamo78]

I can see both sides of the coin here.

Cena turns heel and leads Nexus who buried Taker. Perhaps Cena has been pulling the strings for awhile with Nexus now. Assuming the reports are right, WWE scrapped the plan to have Wade win the belt at last Sunday's Pay Per View.

Am I the only one who thinks that this was just to buy time with Cena to see if Taker will be able to be at WM? I mean Taker needs major surgery and is meeting with Dr. James Andrews shortly so I am guessing they are holding off on doing anything with Cena until they know what Taker's prognosis is.

I look at it like this- If Taker is in for WM, then they can and maybe will turn Cena heel at Survivor Series. If they do turn him heel, they need to do it soon to build him up as a monster heel. If Taker is out, Cena stays face through WM to try and help draw viewers. I think that is what is going on and why Cena is in limbo right now.

 

[Elementz of Fear]

I really have no idea what WWE will do with him and Nexus but one thing is for certain he WILL be turning heel at some point in the near future. I agree that they won't have him attack Wade Barrett but he could still join Nexus. He could cost Orton the title and turn on the crowd saying that they didn't understand that he had to listen to Barrett to stay in the WWE but they booed him for it and now he resents them. Something like that could make it work. Or, like someone suggested earlier, Cena turns heel after the Nexus angle is over because of the feud with Orton and potential feud with Undertaker.

As much as I agree that John Cena is not taking over Nexus, there is one premise that I wish people would stop bringing up entirely and that is the whole "face of the company" nonsense. The WWE chooses who their face of the company is, not the fans. If Vince decided he wanted Santino Marella to be the next John Cena they would find a way to make it work because in this PG era kids are the target audience and quite frankly they will root for whoever they are told to root for. You can turn anyone heel and anyone face if its done right. Besides, Cena as a heel will increase ratings dramatically, not to mention pay per view buys. The "face of the company" argument is really just a label for something that people think is material when in reality its just another aspect of being Vince's guy at the given time.

 

[Greydon]

It will be found out when Barrett wins, that Cena wanted Taker at Wrestlemania, and there was only one way to do it, have Nexus attack taker.

Cena could say, "congrats Barrett on winning the title, but I am coming for you."

Barrett: "Cena, do I have to tell these people the truth, as to what this was all about."

JC: "Sure I have nothing to hide."

WB: "The reason why the Nexus attack and buried the Undertaker was for...(pause and points to Cena.) You! See we thought you should face Taker at Wrestlemania."

JC: "he is buried that won't happen, and besides Wade, I want the title, and I never asked you to attack Taker."

WB: "Fine at the Rumble, me vs. you for the title."

When the rumble match is done. A Taker promo is shown saying he knows who was behind the Nexus attack on him, and that man will be #19 at Wrestlemania. Where Cena still being a face loses to taker, and goes to shake his hand. Whammo Heel turn, all thanks to him and Nexus.

 

[Alex_U]

Excuse me Exuse me, can i have your attention.

For all of you that missed it, WHO PUT THE UNDERTAKER OUT? Nexus... Why? They have there reasons? Four letters starts with a C... ends with a ENA....

Rotator Cuff surgury takes 3-4 months to heal for a regular guy. Well guess what we have 6 months til then. And taker does't even need to be 100% to be there, if its his last match he will go out in a blaze of glory, broken and bruised.

This thread means nothing because CENA WILL TURN HEEL, and face Undertaker in the Final Showdown at WM27.

Here is my predicition: Royal Rumble, (Yeap another Glorified rumble return) We are down to the nitty gritty. Lets even make it better by saying that the last few participates are nexcus members. Lights go out... Gong....Gong.... Lights come on and Undertake is right behind 4 of the nexcus. Tosses 1...2...3... out and its down to Barrett and Taker... 3min exchange, Big Boot... Chokeslam and Tombstone and a toss over the ropes. Taker has a spot at Mania.

Undertaker stalks Cena for the next two months now, Liek the attitude era, they can stikll do it, and make it PG. Distubing dreams, always looking over there shoulders, visions.. ect

Match of the Year it will be, because i hope Cena picks up some wrestling tips before he hooks up with Taker. And thats that.

Cena wins ending the Streak. Because thats the way it gonna happen.

Print this off, post it to the wall and on the morning of April 4th 2011, hit me up.

 

[Judah's Lion]

up front, i'd like to point out that this is only my idea and thinking and how i'd write out the story. this is not a rumor and is highly unlikely to occur.

i think Cena could turn heel. in fact, i don't think it'd be hard to do. there are lots of ways to doing it. major faces have turned heel in that past and been very successful. some of the most epic heel turns have been from the biggest faces at the time...

HBK during the barbershop with Jannetty. Hogan at the Bash is epic of course. Triple H turning on HBK and later on Flair. Y2J turned on HBK and Punk turned on Hardy. it's not hard to turn guys heel and to do it well.

the way that i would turn Cena heel, if only to do something different and to use some history, which i know doesn't always work out, but still...

Cena costs Orton the title at Survivor Series. Barrett wins the title and releases Cena from Nexus. the fans of course boo the crap out of Cena because, although he's free from Nexus, he's cost Orton the title. Cena acts all confused and conflicted. Orton gets his rematch at TLC and Cena costs Orton the title there as well. Cena reasons that he cost Orton the title because he wanted to take it from Barrett himself. So now fans are really booing Cena for costing Orton the title twice, but at least we get some resolution with Cena vs. Barrett for the title at Royal Rumble.

here's where it gets risky. in the main event, Cena goes to the ring, looks to fight Barrett, and then lays down. Barrett goes for the pin and retains. Cena goes full heel right there by not fighting the Nexus but willingly joining the Nexus, not as the leader, but as the follower of Barrett. Cena explains on the mic that he's tired of being disrespected by the fans and the IWC and the superstars of the WWE. during his first match, he got tons of respects for challenging Angle as a rookie and taking Angle to the limit. however, since that time, no rookie has gotten respect and Cena wants to change that. and if nobody will give rookies respect by choice, they'll take it by force. so that's why they've taken the title and that's why they've taken out the Undertaker.

this could lead to a Taker return for Mania in a match against Cena for the streak and respect and for being buried alive, etc.

this frees up Barrett to wrestle for the title at Mania, which is risky, but could work. maybe one on one against Sheamus...?

what i'd like to see for Orton, then, is to somehow get the title off of Kane and put it on the line against the Miz, who cashes in for a chance to headline Mania for the title, kinda like how RVD did for One Night Stand in advance.

that's how i'd book Cena as heel and the following PPV's.

 

[Dzone]

Agreed Cena shouldn't take over Nexus and nor should he end Vince McMahon's biggest assest's Streak to become heel. With Cena WWE need to be the inventors and bust out some new way to make him heel, maybe twisting kayfabe with reality who knows.

I'm sick of people saying make him break The Undertaker's Streak, I'm pretty sure Vince wouldn't allow that to happen because The Undertaker was almost like Vince's creation and theres a wrestler who has shown utmost loyalty and not had random media spats etc (not any I remember atleast).

Another point being The Miz can only cash in on the WWE champion... so him cashing in on Kane is not even on the list for that guy to think about doing. I really don't like The Miz and I would go as far as saying I prefer Alex Riley to him, but The Miz is getting a lengthy push and one way I see this push working is to have him interfere at SS (but I think he'll cash it in at The Royal Rumble after not being able to participate in the actual "Rumble" itself) and somehow render the clause not valid *but this ends up being an "iffy-finish" as I like to call it and means there aren't any real deserving winners*. Then cash in the briefcase, winning the WWE championship and lard-ee-laa but I hope they don't do this becuase he needs a longer and more thought out push than cashing in a briefcase. He needs to be a heel-work horse gets over (main-event over...) by simply gaining the respect of the fans and people backstage *then he can be the big face RAW kinda needs at the moment? or work towards this in like 2 years time or something, he can't be rushed if he's your next big thing....* Ok that was be rambling on now ... another point...

THE LEADER OF NEXUS IS... (!)

GOLDBERG! Think about it, he seems to have left the WWE due to him disliking the fact that children watch wrestling and ... well... almost soft-porn in a sense in that the Divas basically stripped every week (O.O). But now WWE IS PG!?!? Surely he should want to return to the business that I feel he didn't stay long enough in for.

Plus think about it... YOU'RE NXT! *Mehehehe*

 

[playmaker21]

Let's stop with the John Cena turning heel talk. It should happen, but it won't. Vince doesn't have the balls to pull the trigger on it. Plus, the WWE just doesn't have a #2 babyface ready to step up and run with the ball. And Vince doesn't want to lose the revenue in merchandising that Cena moves.

 

[scott hammer cena]

Ok Im from London England and here we dont talk about wrestling and as a 17 year old I have seen most of Cena's Face run.

What Im getting at is ... Isn't Wrestlemania in Canada next year ???
Just a thought maybe Bret Hart is behind Nexus or/and the attack on The Undertaker and he wants another "One more match" at Mania in front of his home country so he thought with him being out of the picture and him over in my country next month Nexus could do his dirty work

I'm not saying this will happen im just linking the location of Mania

As much as I want Cena to stay face im resigned to seeing a heel turn but i thought i'll chuck in a possible storyline

 

[Grimy Grizzly]

I think Cena could make a really good heel turn just cause before the Nexus thing the fans were giving him mixed reactions loud cheers and boos at the same time, as soon as he gets jumped and loses a bunch of title shots the Nexus situation made the fans cheer him more and now that he is forced in it they appear to cheer him even more and saying never give up etc. I think the fact that he isn't getting the mixed reactions as much will make it easier for people to dislike him whenever he does whatever thing he is going to do to turn heel I don't think it should be attacking Wade tho not at all, and even tho it may not happen I think him ending Taker's streak would piss a lot of people off.....

 

[stee]

Obviously this is all opinion but here we go

There are alot of things that you need to look at first before making a decision on Cena's heel turn.

Firstly, Taker may not be available for WM, so anything ideas about Cena turning heel for a WM match against Taker will not be made for a long time, which knowing creative, will result in a change of mind. If Taker is fit enough, it will happen at RR, if he is not it just wont happen and Nexus will claim they finished The undertaker off etc.

Secondly, it doesn't make sense for Cena to take over Nexus, he's been fighting with them for months, and still is now while being part of Nexus, so he can't be the leader no-one would believe it, even the children would be confused, nevermind the backlash from adults.

Thirdly, there is alot of talk about unifying the world/WWE title. If this is gonna happen anywhere it will be WM. And if this is the case, they will not have Nexus involved in this as it is too big for Nexus to interfere in, it will be to class wrestlers battling it out; Orton, jericho return possibly, HHH return possibly, Miz and his MITB (even though he doesn't deserve something this big.) Only problem i have with this idea is what will happen to the RR winner? Guess it would have to be a triple threat match at WM.

Because of these points I think that Cena could possibly turn heel, but it would happen for the next couple of months; RR most probably. What ever the result is at SS (Barrett win I think) he will fight with himself and the fans for a while, just to buy time, because tbh, its fine us arguing over what will happen with him, but I bet creative are as well and will be for a while, so I dont think we will see anything soon.

 

[timber123]

A bigger storyline would be if Cena doesnt help Barrett win and Orton keeps it. Then we get to see a really storyline that might be interesting> Not a rumor but the next monday seeing Vince McMahon comeback and re hire Cena after Barrett fires him from Nexus at surivor series. Brings Vince back cause then u could make it where VInce CENA Orton try beat on Nexus at same time down the road VInce takes part in Nexus even if he was beat down and Cena joins making like what happened during the Invasion stuff when Stone Cold turned with Shane.

 

[LoudClearVoice]

I'm new here but I've been lurking for awhile....


Anyway, what I see happening is NOT a Cena heel turn right away. I think he'll cost Orton the title at Survivor Series, thus freeing him from the Nexus. However, immediately after that, he'll incapacitate the Nexus and Wade Barrett, allowing the Miz to cash in Money in the Bank on Wade Barrett. Cena, since he was the guest ref for the Barrett-Orton match, will count to 3 as the Miz pins Barrett.

That way, Cena is out of Nexus AND Barrett is not the champion.


Thoughts?

 

[Riddler]

THE BEST WAY to do this Nexus story line at Survivor Series. RIGHT as the match gets started... Wade Barrett enters, the bell rings.... Barrett lies down in the middle of the ring. Orton puts his foot on Barrett and Cena has to count to 3. IF Cena dose not, he is fired. Cena screwed either way. ORTON revealed Nexus leader, manipulating like the best (Flair, and HHH). Cena is fired because Barrett did not win, or Cena did not do his job as a ref. either way it dont matter. Orton THE LEGEND KILLER has taken out Cena and Taker, and now is the ONLY top dog left!

Brilliance

 

[tshue36]

I'm new here but I've been lurking for awhile....


Anyway, what I see happening is NOT a Cena heel turn right away. I think he'll cost Orton the title at Survivor Series, thus freeing him from the Nexus. However, immediately after that, he'll incapacitate the Nexus and Wade Barrett, allowing the Miz to cash in Money in the Bank on Wade Barrett. Cena, since he was the guest ref for the Barrett-Orton match, will count to 3 as the Miz pins Barrett.

That way, Cena is out of Nexus AND Barrett is not the champion.


Thoughts?

Liking this idea. Cena can have Orton pounding on Barrett the whole match Have Cena screw Orton thus gaining his freedom, have Miz cash in MITB with Cena counting the 123 screwing Barrett then applying the AA onto Miz thus haveing him save face with the fans. then Have Miz run with the belt until RR setting up a 4 way between orton Barrett cena and Miz putting the belt back on Orton. Cena wins RR setting up a Orton and Cena Titleshot at WM wich woiuld make it a win win for everyone

 

[cenationseattle]

Turning Cena Heel and Having him take over as the leader of nexus is a very bad idea and here's why. Like someone said in an eariler post Cena is the biggest face that the WWE has ever had. Now on the other side of that equation Wade Barrett is the BIGGEST heel that the WWE has ever had. He has so much heat on him right now and when I say heat I mean people just want to jump him in the parking lot and kick the crap out of him heat. He is universally dispised by everyone and to turn Cena heel and take that heat away from barrett would be a huge mistake. It is better to set up a fued between Cena and Barrett (Which is what it looks like thier doing anyway) and if Taker is ready to go at mania then turn Cena if need be

 

[I_got_bant_for_idiocy]

Isn't Wrestlemania in Canada next year ???
Just a thought maybe Bret Hart is behind Nexus or/and the attack on The Undertaker and he wants another "One more match" at Mania in front of his home country so he thought with him being out of the picture and him over in my country next month Nexus could do his dirty work

I'm not saying this will happen im just linking the location of Mania

Na man, wrestlemania is in ATL this year not canada, and bret vs undertaker at wrestlemania DEAR GOD NOOOO, him fighting vince was just brutal to watch, seen bret do anything is just brutal now days... by the way the inbetweeners show is wicked bout time england made something funny loll jk

 

[wwetv21]

i think taker should return with the badass gimmick, and kane or cena could be nexus leaders.
i think it would be kane because it wil get kanes momentum back and he could start fresh and have some good fueds. and then wade barret or cena could win wwe title. when taker comes back taker can take 1 championship and then challenge one of the nexus tittle holders at WM!!!!

 

[bmorepunkfan]

CENA will take over NEXUS and it goes like this... CENA cost ORTON the title.. he appears distraught Orton RKO's him. The following night on RAW Barrett tells Cena he has a choice now..he can either leave Nexus period or he can have a Title Shot later on for helping him.
CENA is mulling it over ..THE GM says in light of CENA performing his duties he is granting he a title shot tonight.. ORTON is pissed and wants a triple Threat.. GM says no your rematch is coming. SO LAST MATCH OF THE NIGHT.. CENA and BARRETT in the ring...BARRETT lays down ..CENA PIN.. he is champ..all of NEXUS come to celebrate and lift him on there shoulders.. CENA is the leader of NEXUS and ..they discover later on SMACKDOWN.. the they attacked Taker for CENA.....Taker comes back wins Title.. CENA SAYS HE WANTS TOTAL CONTROL.. both belts.. so we get .... A TITLE UNIFICATION match at WRESTLEMANIA and the streak on the line against a HEEL CENA and Undertaker.....mark my words...

 

[Lee_Summers]

Theres one more possible scenario with the undertaker cena thing. They don't necessarily have cena vs taker at wrestlemania. It could be with Kane, Edge, ext. Cena could easily interfere in the match, hit the AA on the undertaker. Undertake loses. Cena is the reason. In my opinion, that would give much more heat for cena then to have a heel cena go vs the undertaker.

But of course i really don't see them killing the undertakers streak. Its legendary. Epic. It would kill that if taker lost.

I definitely see cena giving orton an aa at SS and getting out of nexus. The miz cashing in at summer slam is possible, but i think theres something bigger for him.

 

[JBSMan]

Maybe it's a bit too predictable, but I can see a traditional screwjob happening with Cena fast counting Orton at Survivor Series and celebrating with Barrett as he wins the title. Would be the quickest way of turning him heel (having him attack the next biggest face in the company), and there are plenty of ways they could explain the reasoning behind it.