CCS vs. The World

[Father:_Polley]

the oldest previous manuscripts. which were also written by MEN. PEOPLE. thats the enitre point

Several of which spent the entire public ministry of Christ with him and all died. Surely if they wanted it to become a 'human' issue, Matthew would have made the most of himself. But he didn't.

Yes, there's a human element to it and that has kicked off a lot, clearly with your money issues. And that's sad because a lot of churches focus so much on the money and forget about why they're actually there

 

[Mighty NorCal]

damn right they do. tis why I dont mess with church, or denominations for that matter. thats such a thick, rather disgusting issue in itself

 

[Mr. TM]

Churches just wanted to glorify God originally. Some got a little carried away... By some I mean 95%

 

[Father:_Polley]

Koran 9:73. Prophet, make war on the unbelievers and the hypocrites and deal rigorously with them. Hell shall be their Home:

As for Judaism, hell is mentioned 31 times compared with 23 in the 'Christian' NT. Clearly they all believe in such a place

 

[Mighty NorCal]

exactly. so to use any one of their guidelines and say "well if you dont do EXACTLY THIS YOU ARE GOING TO HELL!!!" would be rather silly.

 

[Father:_Polley]

damn right they do. tis why I dont mess with church, or denominations for that matter. thats such a thick, rather disgusting issue in itself

I think it's a little unfair to label all churches with the same issue. I can guarantee they're not all bad places. however, once it becomes more about fame and money than God, then it stops becoming a church, and more an entertainment venue

 

[Mr. TM]

exactly. so to use any one of their guidelines and say "well if you dont do EXACTLY THIS YOU ARE GOING TO HELL!!!" would be rather silly.

I have never believed such a thing. Jesus said: "Let those without sin cast the first stone." Since we are without sin, who is to say we would get into heaven anyways? I think God just designed the world as a precursor to heaven.

 

[Slyfox696]

We celebrate it in December to 'Christianize' the pagan festival of Saturnalia, which is where the gift thing comes from

You haven't gone back far enough. You need to go back further in history.

 

[Mighty NorCal]

exactly. church should have absolutely zero to do with money of venue, but of faith and character. me, you, and ricky could all hang out in a pasture and talk about the lord and his greatness, and dammit, THAT would be church.

 

[Father:_Polley]

exactly. so to use any one of their guidelines and say "well if you dont do EXACTLY THIS YOU ARE GOING TO HELL!!!" would be rather silly.

And yet does put the element of 'if they all say it, maybe there's something to it' in there. The only other thing the three agree on is Abraham existed, God exists, Jesus lived and there's a heaven

 

[Father:_Polley]

You haven't gone back far enough. You need to go back further in history.

Given I'm currently enjoying monday... would not tonight hold ground with you? It's clear there are a number of reasons

 

[Mighty NorCal]

And yet does put the element of 'if they all say it, maybe there's something to it' in there. The only other thing the three agree on is Abraham existed, God exists, Jesus lived and there's a heaven

that, and th general belives of not being a peice of shit and being a good person to pass through to said heaven. so thats probably what people should focus more on no?? not the intricacies, but the fundamentals.

 

[Slyfox696]

Given I'm currently enjoying monday... would not tonight hold ground with you? It's clear there are a number of reasons

You need to research Mithraism.

But, you all are confusing the original point with CCS.

 

[Father:_Polley]

exactly. church should have absolutely zero to do with money of venue, but of faith and character. me, you, and ricky could all hang out in a pasture and talk about the lord and his greatness, and dammit, THAT would be church.

Sounds good. But not over here... not warm enough for pasture time. And you made a point I agree with. The Biblical church was nothing to do with the buildings. It was the people that made it

 

[Father:_Polley]

You need to research Mithraism.

But, you all are confusing the original point with CCS.

Vedic Solar Deity Mitra celebration. Are you happy

 

[Harthan]

You haven't gone back far enough. You need to go back further in history.

I believe it was the Dies Natalis Solis Invicti, was it not? Or perhaps the European Yule?

 

[Mr. TM]

For sure. I have felt better being able to believe in God away from the institute of a church for a while now.

 

[Father:_Polley]

that, and th general belives of not being a peice of shit and being a good person to pass through to said heaven. so thats probably what people should focus more on no?? not the intricacies, but the fundamentals.

Well my views on it... did Jesus have to die if we could make it ourselves. With that and my semi-research to appease Sly, I'm going to sleep as I've to go another week dishing out drugs to people who don't need a lot of them

 

[Mr. TM]

Who else enjoyed the movie "The Mist" What an ending.

 

[Mighty NorCal]

I also find it hilarious that people refuse to belive that science and religion cant co exist. the vast majority of scientific theories can exist within the realm of faith, even down to creation and all that. The bible is simply one account, you dont necessarily have to say "bible or science, one or the other". most of it can co exist within one another.

 

[Danmen001]

I also find it hilarious that people refuse to belive that science and religion cant co exist. the vast majority of scientific theories can exist within the realm of faith, even down to creation and all that. The bible is simply one account, you dont necessarily have to say "bible or science, one or the other". most of it can co exist within one another.

Agreed. If anyone has ever read Angels and Demons, in the book Dan Brown says something along the lines of "Two paths to the one truth".

 

[Mr. TM]

I also find it hilarious that people refuse to belive that science and religion cant co exist. the vast majority of scientific theories can exist within the realm of faith, even down to creation and all that. The bible is simply one account, you dont necessarily have to say "bible or science, one or the other". most of it can co exist within one another.

And that the world may be older than 5000 years?

 

[Mighty NorCal]

Well my views on it... did Jesus have to die if we could make it ourselves. With that and my semi-research to appease Sly, I'm going to sleep as I've to go another week dishing out drugs to people who don't need a lot of them

those who belive in him receive his blessings through out life, while other may suffer more in this world, they are not sealed into eternal damnation.



see, there it is for you, in a nice, neat package. I think its all just different accounts, and interpretations, on very simular fundamentals.

 

[Father:_Polley]

I also find it hilarious that people refuse to belive that science and religion cant co exist. the vast majority of scientific theories can exist within the realm of faith, even down to creation and all that. The bible is simply one account, you dont necessarily have to say "bible or science, one or the other". most of it can co exist within one another.

Of course they can. I have no issues with evolution occuring in Survival of the Fittest proportions, because it's only logic. I mean, there's a theory that we see so many diseases now because people are surviving long enough to pass the traits on.

True I don't believe Aligators can become Eagles, but they can co-exist

 

[Mighty NorCal]

could it not be that science is the lorda method of allowing man to get in on his secrets and how things went about developing?? just becuase you figured out how he did it, doesnt mean he didnt do it. like finding your mom's recipe for ginger bread men LOL