C.M. Punk Wins The WHC

[tehblogger]

This is good shock value, and it makes sense to have the Punk take the title off Edge: that's how you have him cash in MITB without turning him heel. Smart stuff, and it should make for good RAW watching for a couple of weeks as everyone desperately tries to get the title off Punk. My prediction for the man to do it? Jericho, and fairly quickly. With Cade winning the IC title. I don't see Punk's run with the title lasting to Summerslam: hell, I don't even see it lasting until Great American Bash. They do this, and I think ratings will go up, though they will drop drastically if they hang the belt on Punk for any significant length of time.

So, all good news, and I'm pleased for Punk. The bad news? This has Triple H's fingerprints written all over it. He's now the only man with gold on Smackdown, and the way is wide open for him not just to bury Edge, but slice his balls off and leave him in a lead casket 100 feet down under. Which would be horrible.

 

[TheOneBigWill]

Why get so emotional over Punk's win? Complaining doesn't change the fact that Punk is already the champion now. I'd say just live with it and hope WWE has the right plans for Punk and the upcoming #1 contenders to make this title reign credible.

I have a right to get emotional. I love Professional Wrestling and within the span of one segment I seen the main show turn to complete shit.

I'm completely repeating myself anymore with everything I say. Indy Punk is NOT World Heavyweight Championship material. So no, I won't be happy. I won't be patient and wait to see where it goes, because regardless it'll go there with a shit wrestler who doesn't deserve the spot hes in.

I'm not exactly familiar with Punk's work cos' I dun watch ECW, and the first time I saw him, I was skeptical of him as well. Average looks, average build, average gimmick and a pair of funny tights. But when I saw his matches on PPVs and interbrand matches on RAW and Smackdown, I was impressed. I'd prefer watching him wrestle over alot of wrestlers on the roster now, even top tier ones like Triple H or Batista.

Triple H. isn't on Raw, otherwise we wouldn't be seeing this travesty unfold. And I honestly hope Botchtista v. Indy Punk does happen. Maybe then in an unfortunate accident Punk will get injured enough to have to drop the title and return to the no-nothing levels of the business he belongs in.

Punk only has good matches when hes wrestling Superstars who can carry him. John Morrison, Chris Jericho, Elijah Burke, and Edge.

Punk's match with J.B.L. sucked, and I got a news flash for you.. it wasn't because J.B.L. sucks, it was because Punk can't carry the Main Event.

Yeah, I get the pt that Kennedy and MVP should be elevated to ME lvl way before Punk, but their progress would take more than a year without the acceleration granted by MITB. Since WWE put MITB on Punk, they're forced in a way to elevate Punk prematurely over the rest.

Thats honestly just.. well, I won't say stupid but I believe it is. I guarantee you, if someone randomly said "Edge v. Mystery Opponent" for the title.. and Mr. Kennedy walked out.. the roof would be gone. Same with M.V.P.

And whats more to that, M.V.P. was looking for a way off Smackdown, and he has all the proper skills in place to be a World Champion. Kennedy does as well, and neither of them need a fricken case to "accelerate" their progress.

And if you want the honest opinion of what I feel they should've and very easily could've done.. Indy Punk gets challenged for his case. He loses. (Kennedy did) Its THAT easy to get him out of the picture. So clearly some moron was sitting in creative waiting and wanting to do this with Punk for a while. And THATS the worst part about it. Someone actually thought this would be fun.

The whole gimmick abt MITB is that the winner relies heavily on opportunities, rather than relying on their own strength. Therefore altho' u guys lament that he's a fluke, I think he is SUPPOSED to act somewhat like a fluke. It all depends whether WWE wants to build him up more credibly by winning high profile matches against Cena/JBL/Batista etc. But I'm guessing they'll play out this fluke angle and have him lose the title at the next PPV.

Rob Van Dam was a face and told John Cena when and where he'd be cashing in. He said it'd be extreme rules and it'd be his backyard at the E.C.W. p.p.v.. but the fact is, Cena had the time and ability to get ready for it.

Punk was the first face, to cash in in a heelish manner. And it was the ONLY logical way they could make it believable. (honestly, believable with a scripted product) If Punk would've walked out in the beginning of the show and said.. I'm cashing this in.. he would've lost by the end of the night. So yes, Indy Punk's victory was a major fluke. But he'll either be molded to death into some type of Champion.. or they'll drag Raw down with him, until they give up and toss the strap back on Cena for an "easy fix."

And thats likely what'll happen. They see Punk as a "no lose" situation. If he drags ratings down, all they have to do is toss the title back to Cena and he'll instantly create fan-fare with all the little kiddies who'll flock to buy thousands upon thousands of his crap, because he'll have new crap to sell after becoming Champ again.

Bottomline.. Punk will find his name in the "most forgotten Champions of all time" thread by the end of the year.

 

[TheOneBigWill]

This is good shock value, and it makes sense to have the Punk take the title off Edge: that's how you have him cash in MITB without turning him heel. Smart stuff, and it should make for good RAW watching for a couple of weeks as everyone desperately tries to get the title off Punk. My prediction for the man to do it? Jericho, and fairly quickly. With Cade winning the IC title. I don't see Punk's run with the title lasting to Summerslam: hell, I don't even see it lasting until Great American Bash. They do this, and I think ratings will go up, though they will drop drastically if they hang the belt on Punk for any significant length of time.

I'm not even gonna break posts like these down anymore. All of them read the same.

"I'm happy for Punk, and it was great for Raw because it was shocking.. .. .. .. .. but if the title remains on Punk, ratings will drop."

How do you people contridict yourselves so quickly, so much?

The bottomline is, it was great for what it was worth. It was a shocking unbelievable moment, because it was so horrible you're left wondering if it truly happened. I assure you, I'm going to wake up tomorrow and think it was some bad nightmare.. then I'll return to this thread and see 20 more posts to pick apart, all from people saying the same thing as the guy above. Contridicting and all.

I don't care who. And short of it being very fucking soon, I don't care when. But the one thing I do know, and I assure you I do care.. is the Championship needs a new holder, because the current one is already being looked at as shit. Even by his own fans, who admit that it was shocking, yet will ultimately be bad for ratings.

 

[RyRy1114]

Man you're angry....i don't think its that bad, but dude don't compare him to delaney cuz thats just ******ed. You talk as if punk is the worst wrestler ever but he's not, he's nowhere near it. i don't talk on here much but big will i read your reviews a lot and respect your opinion as a wrestling fan...but you're overdoing it a little, give him a chance and let him get a few weeks into his reign before you call him the worst champion ever because that spot clearly goes to the great kahli.

 

[TheOneBigWill]

Man you're angry....i don't think its that bad, but dude don't compare him to delaney cuz thats just ******ed. You talk as if punk is the worst wrestler ever but he's not, he's nowhere near it. i don't talk on here much but big will i read your reviews a lot and respect your opinion as a wrestling fan...but you're overdoing it a little, give him a chance and let him get a few weeks into his reign before you call him the worst champion ever because that spot clearly goes to the great kahli.

The difference between The Great Khali and Indy Punk.. is reaction. Khali at least gets one. While I won't deny from time to time Punk has as well, the fact is I'm furious with this decision. Its horrible for them because they're putting all their faith in an unknown.

When Khali was crowned Champion, it was due to lack of options. Even at that, Khali was considered a "dominate" Champion due to his size and power. He might of had the amount of wrestling skills equal to a 2 month old, but he at least got reaction for his size and overall power alone.

Punk can't use his size to get him over, because his size places him in a Cruiserweight ranking. And the guy isn't nearly talented enough to be considered worthy to carry the Raw World Heavyweight Championship. Raw is suppose to be the top show in the entire W.W.E.

Them giving Punk the Championship just slapped John Cena, Mr. Kennedy, M.V.P., Jeff Hardy, Edge, Triple H., Shawn Michaels, Chris Jericho and many, many, MANY MORE.. all in the face. While most of the names I listed have had their runs. Some even more than they deserved.. but the fact is, Kennedy, M.V.P. and Jeff Hardy were all more deserving than Indy Punk.

I don't have to give Punk a chance, because he had his opportunity to impress me throughout his entire career thus far. Through my eyes, John Morrison impressed more during Money in the Bank, and was the greater E.C.W. Champion. Now even at that, I definately am not going to say hand Morrison the Championship.

I'm only trying to say.. this was a very bad decision on their part, and for what? All to get a Championship to Raw, without it coming over by Batista or John Cena? So then why not keep Hardy, Kennedy or move M.V.P. to Raw and place one of them in the match with Edge instead of Batista, at the p.p.v.. then have them defeat him there. Instead, they found themselves in a hole that they weren't smart enough to write their way out of.. so they paniced and pressed the MITB button.

 

[RyRy1114]

Well they fixed the problem and the title is on raw and its with punk. Sure they could've brought over m.v.p to take it but they didn't. They used punk and they must have a reason for using punk even if it was rushed. I can see a great feud with jericho coming out of this seeing how punk won in a way that would've gotten most people boo'd, which is what jericho has been bitchin about with hbk. But more importantly...they changed the landscape of raw. Once the place for established main eventers is now a place full of newcomers that ALL have potential in my eyes, along with guys like cena, batista, kane, y2j, and hbk to help mold them to be the future. Thats just my opinion though.

 

[tehblogger]

I'm not even gonna break posts like these down anymore. All of them read the same.

"I'm happy for Punk, and it was great for Raw because it was shocking.. .. .. .. .. but if the title remains on Punk, ratings will drop."

How do you people contridict yourselves so quickly, so much?

The bottomline is, it was great for what it was worth. It was a shocking unbelievable moment, because it was so horrible you're left wondering if it truly happened. I assure you, I'm going to wake up tomorrow and think it was some bad nightmare.. then I'll return to this thread and see 20 more posts to pick apart, all from people saying the same thing as the guy above. Contridicting and all.

I don't care who. And short of it being very fucking soon, I don't care when. But the one thing I do know, and I assure you I do care.. is the Championship needs a new holder, because the current one is already being looked at as shit. Even by his own fans, who admit that it was shocking, yet will ultimately be bad for ratings.

Calm down. I am not contradicting myself. I know Punk is shite - I'm no fan. His gimmick is lame and he's bad to watch in the ring, largely due to the fact that he's using an alien moveset. But he's not so bad that they can't afford to hang the belt on him for a couple of weeks. I'd be surprised if it's any longer than that. For a couple of weeks, it will make for interesting RAW viewing, and because Cena is still getting booed, I think Punk's successor will be Jericho. Now how is that contradictory?

 

[TheOneBigWill]

Well they fixed the problem and the title is on raw and its with punk. Sure they could've brought over m.v.p to take it but they didn't. They used punk and they must have a reason for using punk even if it was rushed. I can see a great feud with jericho coming out of this seeing how punk won in a way that would've gotten most people boo'd, which is what jericho has been bitchin about with hbk. But more importantly...they changed the landscape of raw. Once the place for established main eventers is now a place full of newcomers that ALL have potential in my eyes, along with guys like cena, batista, kane, y2j, and hbk to help mold them to be the future. Thats just my opinion though.

Your opinion is fine, everyone has the right to their own opinion, but the fact is.. they didn't fix the problem, then just patched over it, and created an even bigger one.

You see, you got it exactly right. Raw is different now, its no longer the top show where all the proven Main Eventers/Heavyweights are. Its the place where Indy Punk, Kofi Kingston, Dibiase & Rhodes are all Champions. (Younger talent)

But you mentioned Punk being capable of having a great feud with Chris Jericho. Well, that'd be well and good.. except for the fact that it would deminish the entire Raw Roster as far as the real Main Eventers in John Cena, Batista, Shawn Michaels and even J.B.L. and Kane are concerned.

Where do they all factor in now? Because a guy like Punk can't honestly go on a winning streak over guys like Cena, Batista and H.B.K. after he spent almost a year losing to guys like Chavo Guerrero, The Miz and William Regal.

 

[TheOneBigWill]

Calm down. I am not contradicting myself. I know Punk is shite - I'm no fan. His gimmick is lame and he's bad to watch in the ring, largely due to the fact that he's using an alien moveset. But he's not so bad that they can't afford to hang the belt on him for a couple of weeks. I'd be surprised if it's any longer than that. For a couple of weeks, it will make for interesting RAW viewing, and because Cena is still getting booed, I think Punk's successor will be Jericho. Now how is that contradictory?

That in itself is CONTRADICTING! You just admitted to him being shit, lame and bad to watch in the ring. Then you go on to say.. he isn't so bad that they couldn't put the title on him.

So do you enjoy watching shit wrestlers in the top spots? Because thats what you mainly just said. I'm not being angry over this. I'm not being outrageous over this. I'm pointing out what you're doing, and apparently can't see it.

Punk IS awful. I highly and completely agree. But I disagree fully with your theory on how he could even hold onto the Championship for a couple weeks.

Furthermore, John Cena was getting cheered tonight. Everywhere he goes he'll get a mixed reaction, for the rest of his career because creative kept the title on him for far too long in the beginning. But the fact is, I promise you fans will be begging for Cena to take it back, after two weeks of Punk as Champion.

 

[RyRy1114]

He lost to Regal right before Regal was about to get the push of his life and he beat Jericho and Matt Hardy in that same night, so thats two wins this year you haven't given him credit for in two pretty decent matches. He's also beat Morrison a few times this year too. Well all that main event talent will probably be busy. As for all the rest of the main eventers well, Orton will be back soon and i'm sure he'll tangle with Batista or Cena, if Batista doesn't turn heel...which would create a lot more possibilities. But i don't really know whats gonna happen and i'm kinda excited to find out because for the first time in a long time wrestling has me guessing.

 

[psykohurricane]

This is for all the people that are CM Punk haters and think he isn'T ready to be a main event player, Give him a chance. Internet wrestling are always talking about how the WWE isn't trying to make new stars and are always relying on the same guys to be in the main event. Guys like Undertaker, HHH, HBk, Edge, John Cena and batista have been main eventing PPV for years now and nothing ever changeand the internet wrestling fans have been talking on how sick they are of seeing these guys main eventing PPV.

So now the wwe give you a new guy to be a main eventer and what do they get from the internet community, C.m Punk isn'T ready to be in the main event, C.m punk sucks, C.M. Punk is boring and he's going to have boring feud with JBL, Cena and company. So basicly what i'm saying is this do those C.M Punk haters, make up your mind already. You want new blood on top of the main event roster and whe the WWE give it to you, you piss all over it for no reason what so ever.

I for want am happy about the turn of event because it took balls to give the belt to C.M Punk and am glad that they took a chance on this guy, now am just curious if he's going to be able to run with this opportunity and make himself a star. Time will tell if C.M. Punk is a main eventer or just another wannabe star.

 

[steven87gill]

Dude, I just about marked the fuck out when CM Punk cashed in tonight. I don't care what anyone says, this is the best thing to happen on RAW in years. Why? Simple. Because we didn't see it coming. If Cena or Batista won, you'd all complain. This made tonight one of the best RAWs in a long time, and coming off one of the best PPVs in a long time, I actually think someone in the WWE is smartening the fuck up and doing somthing right!

I know, WWE have dropped the ball so many times over the last 7 or so years that there are now shedloads of cynical internet smarks who are hypercritical and won't be happy whatever happens, but i agree WWE have finally done something shocking and unexpected, good on em' i say.

 

[psykohurricane]

Them giving Punk the Championship just slapped John Cena, Mr. Kennedy, M.V.P., Jeff Hardy, Edge, Triple H., Shawn Michaels, Chris Jericho and many, many, MANY MORE.. all in the face. While most of the names I listed have had their runs. Some even more than they deserved.. but the fact is, Kennedy, M.V.P. and Jeff Hardy were all more deserving than Indy Punk.

I don't have to give Punk a chance, because he had his opportunity to impress me throughout his entire career thus far. Through my eyes, John Morrison impressed more during Money in the Bank, and was the greater E.C.W. Champion. Now even at that, I definately am not going to say hand Morrison the Championship.

I'm only trying to say.. this was a very bad decision on their part, and for what? All to get a Championship to Raw, without it coming over by Batista or John Cena? So then why not keep Hardy, Kennedy or move M.V.P. to Raw and place one of them in the match with Edge instead of Batista, at the p.p.v.. then have them defeat him there. Instead, they found themselves in a hole that they weren't smart enough to write their way out of.. so they paniced and pressed the MITB button.

Give one good reason, outside the fact to you clearly hate C.M. punk, why having c.m. punk has champion is a slap in the face to every main event and upper mid carder on both roster. O.k. so C.M. punk isn'T the most charismatic guy in the world, so what? casual fans still love him. Sure i doesn't get the type of reaction that a guy like Jeff HArdy is getting but again he's still in the top 10 guy that casual love to watch so why not except the fact that C.M is the champion and if book properly, the guy could be a major player for years to come. Also just another quick question, on the list of wrestler that you name before, how many guys to you see still be in the wwe in five years. Pretty much everybody name on that list except for kennedy and MVP and maybe Cena don't have many years left in there career. HBK is pretty past is prime and i would'nt be surprised if he retires in a couple of years, same goes for HHH, BAtista, Kane, The Undertaker, JBL and maybe jericho and Jeff HArdy so the time is now to create new stars and having C.M. punk win the world title is a step in the right direction in my opinion especially since he's the only young talent on raw that gets a pretty reaction from the crowd. MVP and Kennedy will get there chance eventually on smackdown, so learn to live with it because i don'T see thing changing for the time being.

 

[Kortex]

Who cares... Punk is only bringing the title to Raw so Cena can take it from him at the next PPV and changing it to a stupid childish spinner belt!!! Sad but true... I m just wondering who will be the heel... Maybe Punk will since he kind of used the Edges opportunistic angle and will tell fans to shove it for saying he won unfairly.... Anyway, no matter what the draft brough to Raw... things will never change and Cena will still be the boring champ!!!! Cant wait for Orton to come back!!!!

 

[Italian MVP]

I have to agree with Will, horrible choice for a champion. Punk might not be the worst wrestler out there, but he will not bring enough drawing power such as reactions from the crowds and viewers to maintain being a World Champion.

You all say give him a chance and let the young guys have a go, but really what has CM Punk done to be given the World Title? He has lost almost every much he has been in and it hasnt even been to main event guys, its been to Miz, Morrision and Chavo OMG. The point is he has no build up whatsover, he couldnt even lead the ECW brand to anything spectacular, so what chance does he have on the Big Show?

Plus, alot of RAW viewers dont watch ECW, so many of them wont be too fond of Punk and wont know what he has done thus far.

The Ratings are seriously going to go down the toilet, Punk isnt the superstar to maintain ratings as he is very bland and doesnt have an interesting personality. Sure, the rating will go up the next few weeks, but after that people are going to get bored with his boring style of wrestling and character.

The best option would of been get another guy to take the briefcase off Punk and then win the title, such as Kennedy since he was groomed for a push and had momentum on his side. Plus his more established and could have screwed Edge and got revenge from last year, which would of created a great feud.

Sure, give the young guys a go, but in Punks case they needed to buld him up first or at least turn the guy heel his nothing as face and doesnt bring nothing to the table. He wont make viewers wanna keep tuning in week in week out and thats why Cena needs to win the title as soon as possible IMO.

Punk needs mabe 1-2 years at best, develop a character, turn him heel, and change his wrestling style to hold a World Title but i doubt even then he would be the right man for the top job. Just look at him with the title, he is basically a bonified crusiweight holding this big as title, geez its not looking good. And dont give the excuse of Mysterio, he at least was very popular and had Eddie on his side, CM Punk has jack on his side besides his straight lifestyle which is blander than a white wall.

Oh and another thing, its going to look stupid if he beats Cena, Batista, Kane as they are far superior to him and there is a big size difference, its just not going to work. So what the hell is he going to do with his title reign. He aint big enough in every department to beat Cena, Batista or Kane so this Title reign is going to suck big time and thats why it should end before it gets underway.

It was a great shock moment, but thats as far as it got. And it had to be against Edge....Poor Edge deserves much better...

 

[psykohurricane]

I have to agree with Will, horrible choice for a champion. Punk might not be the worst wrestler out there, but he will not bring enough drawing power such as reactions from the crowds and viewers to maintain being a World Champion.

You all say give him a chance and let the young guys have a go, but really what has CM Punk done to be given the World Title? He has lost almost every much he has been in and it hasnt even been to main event guys, its been to Miz, Morrision and Chavo OMG. The point is he has no build up whatsover, he couldnt even lead the ECW brand to anything spectacular, so what chance does he have on the Big Show?

Plus, alot of RAW viewers dont watch ECW, so many of them wont be too fond of Punk and wont know what he has done thus far.

The Ratings are seriously going to go down the toilet, Punk isnt the superstar to maintain ratings as he is very bland and doesnt have an interesting personality. Sure, the rating will go up the next few weeks, but after that people are going to get bored with his boring style of wrestling and character.

The best option would of been get another guy to take the briefcase off Punk and then win the title, such as Kennedy since he was groomed for a push and had momentum on his side. Plus his more established and could have screwed Edge and got revenge from last year, which would of created a great feud.

Sure, give the young guys a go, but in Punks case they needed to buld him up first or at least turn the guy heel his nothing as face and doesnt bring nothing to the table. He wont make viewers wanna keep tuning in week in week out and thats why Cena needs to win the title as soon as possible IMO.

Punk needs mabe 1-2 years at best, develop a character, turn him heel, and change his wrestling style to hold a World Title but i doubt even then he would be the right man for the top job. Just look at him with the title, he is basically a bonified crusiweight holding this big as title, geez its not looking good. And dont give the excuse of Mysterio, he at least was very popular and had Eddie on his side, CM Punk has jack on his side besides his straight lifestyle which is blander than a white wall.

Oh and another thing, its going to look stupid if he beats Cena, Batista, Kane as they are far superior to him and there is a big size difference, its just not going to work. So what the hell is he going to do with his title reign. He aint big enough in every department to beat Cena, Batista or Kane so this Title reign is going to suck big time and thats why it should end before it gets underway.

It was a great shock moment, but thats as far as it got. And it had to be against Edge....Poor Edge deserves much better...

Again let'S look at the facts here, Is c.m. punk popular, yes he is, he'S not as popular as batista, jeff hardy or John cena but the guys get a really good reation from the crowd everytime he goes out there and wrestle.

Does is size matter, not really since he about the same size as such great performers, Eddie Guerrero, Bret HArt, Shawn Micheals, Chris Jericho and chris Benoit and all these guys won a world championship belt at some point in there career even without being the biggest guys on the roster or the more popular one. His style of wrestling is really a factor either because he's one of the best wresler they got on the roster right now and the casual fans actually want somebody that can actually wrestle. His marchandise sales are doing really well right now so you know he going to be a draw as champion just base on that alone. And even is promo are not that bad. So i don'T see what the problem is with him being world champion, especially when your idea was to give the belt to Kennedy a guy that the wwe is just starting to gain the company trust again after the awful year he had last year. So if i had to choose between a guy that can make me money and that i can trust or a man that can make me money but i'm still not sure that i can trust, i would probably pick to safe option and that what C.M. Punk is a safe option.

 

[Y 2 Jake]

While I don't think Punk is ready, nor do I think he'll succeed as champion. I'm glad he's got the belt. He's new and different. I don't like the way he won the title. I thought it was very heelish. To beat a downed opponent. But still.

The WHC has for a while been the title that they've taken chances with. Kennedy was supposed to get the title when Undertaker suffered an injury, Mark Henry was supposed to get the title when Batista was injured, Rey Mysterio has held it, as has Khali. You might not agree with some of the champions. But it's a lot less predictable that the WWE title. Even if Punk fails he can chalk it up to experience. I'm sure his second reign will be better. But who knows, this reign might work out.

 

[Italian MVP]

Again let'S look at the facts here, Is c.m. punk popular, yes he is, he'S not as popular as batista, jeff hardy or John cena but the guys get a really good reation from the crowd everytime he goes out there and wrestle.

Does is size matter, not really since he about the same size as such great performers, Eddie Guerrero, Bret HArt, Shawn Micheals, Chris Jericho and chris Benoit and all these guys won a world championship belt at some point in there career even without being the biggest guys on the roster or the more popular one. His style of wrestling is really a factor either because he's one of the best wresler they got on the roster right now and the casual fans actually want somebody that can actually wrestle. His marchandise sales are doing really well right now so you know he going to be a draw as champion just base on that alone. And even is promo are not that bad. So i don'T see what the problem is with him being world champion, especially when your idea was to give the belt to Kennedy a guy that the wwe is just starting to gain the company trust again after the awful year he had last year. So if i had to choose between a guy that can make me money and that i can trust or a man that can make me money but i'm still not sure that i can trust, i would probably pick to safe option and that what C.M. Punk is a safe option.

You say Punk can wrestle what have you been watching? He is mediore at best, he is very bland in the ring and i dont see how really his a good wrestler. His average plain and simple, nothing fantastic about him.

As for his pop when he comes out, this is a very cheap pop the one you would usually gain from a face wrestler. Look at Matt Hardy, he gets a crowd reaction much like Punk, but its just on reaction its not really a pop that would rock the roof off. And during his matches, the crowd are not really into it so thats the reaction you really wanna look at not his entrance because anyone can get a reaction.

Sure Punk is a winner with kids with his straight edge gimmick, but i dont recall reading about him doing great merchandise sales and so on, and that really doesnt mean anything. He isnt going to get viewers to watch RAW for the simple fact he hasnt been established as a real competitor and has been on ECW which a small portion of RAW viewers actually watch.

So as for your agument towards Mr Kennedy, he would of been the better option IMO. He was being groomed quite nicely a year ago and again a couple months ago with his feud with Regal and has momentum which Punk did not. Punk had no momentum whats so ever, he was losing so how the hell is he supposed to draw and get the ratings high when he flukes a victory and half of RAW dont really know him.

Kennedy at least had been on RAW and Smackdown for a year each as was pretty regonised as a good heel and he is making a fair transition into a face.

Dont worry you can keep saying, 'oh wait and see you dont know he makes money, he is young' blah blah blah, but you keep an eye out for the ratings not this week or mabye not next week but after that, since he is so bland people are not going to be interested to watch him as he is nothing of a wrestler like you describe him in your above post. Kennedy on the other hand has far superior mic skills and has a fairly interesting character that would be able to keep the viewers intrigued for the most part of his title reign. Plus he has had quality fueds with HBK, Undertaker and had a pretty good short feud with Regal.

Punk is a no no for World Champion and WWE will see that in the upcoming weeks. He wont be champ for long knowing how the WWE dont like crap ratings for too long thus Punk will be replaced by Cena most likely.

 

[Italian MVP]

How is he over as you say he is? Where is the biggest pop as Jeff Hardy you are all talking about cause i certainly havent seen it? Even when he won the damn title, the crowd was that loud, when he came out with the briefcase it was a nice little pop, but nothing spectular that your talking about? Show me these pops as big as Hardy's please cause im certainly interested.

And Cm Punk is not as over as you say he is. If he was he would of been of ECW a long time ago, he would be beating Miz and Chavo and not losing every frigen week and he would be fighting for the ECW title not fighting for the tag titles when he was ECW.

Yeh he is over with the fans, but so is every other face. His like Matt Hardy, gets a cheap pop when he comes out then when his wrestles the corwd is dead and dont give two shits about the guy which further proves his wrestling is bland, thus he needs a heel turn. So i got no clue as to what your talking about when you say he gets pops like Jeff Hardy and he is way over.

 

[Miko]

so CM Bland is the World Heavyweight Champion, I'll give em' there due its a change, not the change I was looking for but who cares what I think.

A good part about this though is that any number of contenders can take it from him and they dont necessarily have to cheat to do so (see Benoit). My pick (and hope) Chris Jericho.

 

[Sparky]

It's amazing how so many of you "experts" think that CM Punk is a terrible choice for World Heavyweight Champion. Almost as amazing as how many of you "experts" think you know what's best for the current product.

Seeing we are the one's that are making the WWE so succsesful we do know what's best for the WWE, We are the one's that have to watch it.

When will the Internet community realize that Vince McMahon doesn't give 2 shits what you dumbasses think, and for the most part -- neither do the 20,000+ "morons" who pack the arenas every week. They don't give a fuck whether or not you think Cena sucks because he can't wrestle (well, that's a bad example -- because it's undeniably true). They don't give a fuck whether or not you think Jeff Hardy is a "glorified spot monkey" or that Kennedy doesn't impress you.

it's Just a forum buddy everyone can say what they think. It's a place where you can express your feeling's about the WWE when you post here you know you are not going to do anything exept have conversations with other Wrestling Fan's.

You're not shareholders -- you're not members of the board of directors, and you certainly aren't part of the shit writing staff (even though most of us could probably write better than Gewiritz).

Who again do Creative Write the stuff for? Yep you guessed it the Fan's.

cM Punk may not be the most charismatic guy on the face of the earth. He may not be the best "in-ring" performer (although he's very good. You just don't get to see it on WWE), and he might not seem to have the "look" -- you know what though? HE'S OVER AS FUCK! The pop he gets is astronomical, matched in recent months only by Jeff Hardy. He must be doing something right... oh yeah, he's selling t-shirts and making people happy. We can't have that now, can we?

How on earth is people going crazy when he first come's out mean they are "Over"? almost everyone that's a face get's that. It's when they go mental with every move they do eg Hulk Hogan, Ric Flair etc. CM Punk isnt ready for the title yet. Maybe in a few year's he might be but not until then.
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guess what I'm really trying to say is: All this opinion dropping as to why CM Punk will suck as champion, just hours after he won the belt is fucking moronic. Fortunately for me, and millions of others -- Vincent Kennedy McMahon doesn't listen to one god damn thing you people say.

It's a discussion Forum you discuss what has happend on wrestling. you learn thing's on here you debate. Not everyone think's CM Punk suck's. People are just Stating there own opinion. also do you honestly we care about what you have to say? not once did you say Why CM Punk is worthy of the title.

I think that Cm Punk Isn't ready for the title just yet. There was way more option's, on raw that could of been entertaining. now i am not saying that CM Punk isnt a good wrestler, Im just saying that someone like MR Kennedy or even MVP would of been better of with the title. Cm Punk is still to fresh and even though He Might of Been over on ECW it doesnt mean he can hold his own with the big boy's. This move surprised the hell out of me an while i Can say i dont think this is a good idea it was dam entertaining and unexpected wich is what i thought everyone wanted. at least it wasn't to predictable.

 

[Tastycles]

I think this is a good idea. I'm aware that he hasn't been on the biggest winning streak of all time recently, but I think that it was unexpected way of bringing the title back to Raw. I do think he'll lose the title in the next few weeks, either at The Bash or at Summerslam, but Edge's first reign after his MITB win was short, and then he got longer reigns subsequently, and I can see the same thing happening here. I thought the way he won was good as well, getting the guaranteed pop from the crowd of beating the top heel in the company.

To make him a more credible champion, I can see him going over some established heels in the next few weeks, maybe JBL again and Jericho. I hope the JBL match is an indication of this happening. Judging by the look on Batista's face when Punk made his way to the ring, He might also be a heel chasing the championship soon.

 

[FoleyIsGod]

Ok, so some of you do not like Punk. Big deal.

Personally, im a huge mark for him from seeing him in Roh. If putting the title on him makes more ROH watch the WWE product and thus raise higher ratings, good for them. They are just doing what every other promotion has done in the past. Hogan jumped ship, despite working a different style to the NWa? He got the title. Kurt Angle. Yep he got the title too. Christian? Oh my god, he got the title too. And so on and so forth

 

[adampate]

I thought that it was classic, for edge to lose the title the same way that he won it... In my opinion I thought that it was great.

Yeah, I was going to say the same thing Batista Got Revenge on edge for what he did to him last year and last night Last Year: By Using the MITB to beat him for WHC And Last Night For Cheating to Victory. So Edge Got A taste of his own medicine. I bet edge will get the wwe title from Triple H and probelly get losing it and getting it so they can make triple h a new Ric Flair. Because thats what they are trying to do with Triple H.

 

[benmaney]

I'm glad Edge lost the title, hopefully this leads to La Familia breaking up. While there are more deserving people than Punk, i'm glad that they gave him something to do besides job. I hope that he can keep the title until at least Summerslam.