Before "The Walkout" what made you dislike CM Punk

[DarksideEric]

3. While I love the GTS as a finisher, it requires the one taking it to actually take it right and sell it, which a lot of guys don't do thus making it look sloppy a lot.

So... that would be on the one's taking the move, not on Punk. If they don't sell it properly, how is it a peeve due to Punk?

4. He unfortunately has developed a "5 moves of doom" routine

As has nearly every other wrestler in the industry. How is this still a point against someone?

 

[Bythedockofthebay]

Yeah that's why they chanted punk's name in Bryan's segments and matches and the Reigns vs Bray match.

Yes because that's every fan who's ever cheered for punk.

Injuries? So he left like a little pu$$y because of injuries then didn't bother to explain it on twitter. That would make it even worst.

Or he doesn't want to explain his personal issues or why he can't work with the world. It's been said that Punk is an incredibly private person. Even if it is an injury, it's within his rights to not tell you or anyone else about it.

 

[James]

I am glad he walked away from the bullshit he was being fed after being promised this and that.

I have nothing but respect for him to be honest. If you're not giving your all then you should take a break to spiffy yourself up.

 

[AegonTargaryen]

Contrasting 24/7 wrestlezone forum bums like GOAT, I'll say that CM Punk is one of the most unique wrestling characters of all time, and far more superior in multiple ways to Daniel Bryan. He was thoroughly enjoyable to watch ever since he turned heel and wasn't ever unendurable as a face either. Wherever he went, CM Punk was must-see television and most of his matches have been quite good, but he's no Kurt Angle or Chris Benoit in the ring.

I dissent with the OP trying to take a shot at CM Punk for whatsoever purpose because at the end of the day, you could always find faults with any single human being and those little faults hardly matter so long as a wrestler is entertaining for a large part of his career. By the OP's logic, everybody should start loathing The Undertaker because now- 1)He's repetitive, unoriginal, and drab. 2)He looks grotesque with his bald head and idiotic deadman gestures. 3)The streak is carrying the man and it's the same old yearly repetition and quite frankly, The Undertaker should stop appearing because he is frail, gaunt and grotesque looking and could rightly be said to be a shadow of his former self.

 

[DarksideEric]

By the OP's logic, everybody should start loathing The Undertaker because now- 1)He's repetitive, unoriginal, and drab. 2)He looks grotesque with his bald head and idiotic deadman gestures. 3)The streak is carrying the man and it's the same old yearly repetition and quite frankly, The Undertaker should stop appearing because he is frail, gaunt and grotesque looking and could rightly be said to be a shadow of his former self.

Psst.

GOAT does hate the Undertaker and has stated in multiple threads this information.

To GOAT, seemingly, if you aren't named Rock or Austin you should retire. And those two should come back full time.

 

[Straightfromthehart]

To op his booking is what I thought was the worst thing about him. After Brock at summerslam, it was poor, and in my opinion the heyman rivalry wasn't what it could have been. And after that he was filler.

The fact is the main event for the 30 year anniversary should be the handing of the torch so to speak to the new "faces" of the company. It should have been PUNK VS BRYAN for the title. And a face vs face build up too. And I would say this was the plan till Batista offered his services and they decided to try and cash in on his new "profile", which hasn't come yet. Lol.

Think the original plan was also Vince vs HHH so Batista really threw spanner in the works that has backfired massively. Hence our current situation of the multiple matches. And pretty much the final straw for punk. The guy obviously needed a break big time so he left.

Back to topic, I'm not the biggest wrestling fan and only got back into watching recently after many years not watching, and on a week by week basis his matches were on most occasions best on the show.

So the answer to the thread just his booking. Coz the guy always put on a show in the ring.

 

[MrJay]

I am glad he walked away from the bullshit he was being fed after being promised this and that.

I have nothing but respect for him to be honest. If you're not giving your all then you should take a break to spiffy yourself up.

What they promised him? Please, with the way the ppvs he main evented sold worse than they did the previous year, he's lucky he still had a top spot. CM Punk's problem is that's like Bret Hart........he believes his own bullshit. At some point you've got to stop blaming the booking for the fact that Punk didn't draw.

 

[zones.]

12. He Supports Gay Marriage

what in the blue hell? did you really have the audacity to cite punk supporting gay marriage as a reason why you dislike him? you, child, are quite a foul bastard and if I could openly tell you about yourself on this site without being flagged or 'reprimanded' then i surely would.


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on the subject.
i dont dislike punk for any reason whatsoever. the man is a very good in ring worker, and he IS one of the more (if not one of the MOST) talented mic workers of the past 10 years. no i am not a fanboy, no i do not worship the ground punk walks on, and no i honestly dont care that he quit. IF this is a work then its a great one and i will be very happy with it, but if not then eh oh well. i am not some diehard fan that gets all into a wrestlers personal life, i am a man just like punk is so whats the use holding some infatuation? the mans beliefs and the like matter not to me as long as he is entertaining in front of the damn camera. i hope this is storyline though, honestly... ill be watching wrestlemania not for any advertised match, but for the two things a strong percentage of the IWC are hoping for, Sting and Punk.

 

[whoopin' ass]

Nothing. I would much rather watch him than some ass-kiss like Batista. I admire the fact that he thought creative sucked and left. It is easy to say how good things are when you are a Cena, Orton or someone who management likes. Whatever faults he may have had, they are no worse than any other wrestler.

 

[Messiah]

Who are you to say Punk is "obsessed" with Twitter?... Punk has said many times once he leaves WWE, he never wants to be heard from again. Why would he do interviews talking about the situation? He wants to move on from wresting. That's why he's not using Twitter right now, so he doesn't have to read a bunch of people asking him about the situation. That's all the tweets he would get, asking why he left, when he's coming back.. The best thing to do is to leave CM Punk alone. The only reason he's relevant right now is because his fans can't get over the fact Punk is done and they keep trying to come up with scenarios on how to bring him back. Like saying it's a "work", he'll be back at WrestleMania. There's no way Punk can leave WWE, right?... Wrong! Some people just want to move on, he's getting married now, maybe his new goals are to settle down and have kids. Maybe he really is moving on with his life.. So just stop it.

You're just one of those fans that wants to believe Punk is coming back, when in reality he's not.

Nothing. I would much rather watch him than some ass-kiss like Batista. I admire the fact that he thought creative sucked and left. It is easy to say how good things are when you are a Cena, Orton or someone who management likes. Whatever faults he may have had, they are no worse than any other wrestler.

How can you admire a bitch move like that? You do know he was under contract right? Do you know what a "contract" entails? It means you agree to certain demands. So if everyone in WWE left while they were under contract just because they didn't like the creative direction, there wouldn't be a WWE.. Punk needs to be a man.. Wait until his contract expired in July, then leave. It's not complicated

 

[DarksideEric]

How can you admire a bitch move like that? You do know he was under contract right? Do you know what a "contract" entails? It means you agree to certain demands. So if everyone in WWE left while they were under contract just because they didn't like the creative direction, there wouldn't be a WWE.. Punk needs to be a man.. Wait until his contract expired in July, then leave. It's not complicated

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Do you know that said contract can include such "demands" as both sides agreeing to presented situations. Did you know that said contracts can include such things as varying degrees of "creative control," which could potentially allow talent the freedom to rebuke or veto what his employer has asked of them? Are you aware that several talent have, over the course of a good long while, have done such things?

"Punk needs to be a man."

Funny, I thought "men" stood up for what they believed in, right?

 

[HBKistheHOF]

After meeting him a few times & hearing many stories, I don't care much for Phil Brooks the human being but I still enjoyed his work as CM Punk. In fact most of the time he was supposed an extremely arrogant heel & I think his real life attitude seemed to just enhance the character, so in a way I'm surprised to see more votes for "his attitude" but then again I can easily see how people are rubbed the wrong way by him.

As far as the CM Punk character goes in the ring, promos, etc. the only thing that's ever really bugged me, besides maybe his physique at times (Triple H's insult about kicking Punk's "skinny, fat ass" is one of my favorites), was not so much Punk's in-ring mistakes but his in-ring inconsistency. There were times Punk would "miss" a move or hit a really awful elbow drop but he has said several times he did that to troll the hardcore fans & as inside jokes with indie friends. I'm talking more about when it was extremely obvious Punk just completey stopped trying in the ring for months on end or couldn't cut a decent promo to save his life if he wasn't given exactly the kind of storyline he wanted. So whether it be attitude or in the ring, basically any time Punk stopped really "giving it his all" is when I kind of stopped caring for or about him.

 

[Headman]

I found many of Punk's tweets to be unprofessional. He's shown me that he is an intolerant human being, incapable of seeing past his narrow minded views. That aside he's the most overrated in-ring performer in the business. He's sloppy as hell and nobody calls him for it anymore. That used to be a regular knock on Punk, but now people pretend like he's HBK or something. Punk has great psychology and call tell amazing stories in the ring, but his work is sloppy and it didn't get better as time went on. it got worse because he stopped lifting weights and was too weak to pull off many of his moves. He was also as boring as boring could be as a baby face. Great heel, but it's hard to be an anti-hero when you're such an unlikable human being. Some people bought it anyway, but the reason he's a great heel is because he's a smug son of a bitch. He should stick to what works.

 

[BestWrestlingOpinions]

Cm Punk sucks.

Always hated that little puke.

His shoot promo is extremely overrated.


Maybe this is just me but I'm not a fan of @$$holes. Not a fan of The Kliq (any one of them and never was, although at one point I liked Hall and Kev a little bit), not a fan of Hogan, etc.

Cm punk is one of those @$$holes.


Seriously how in the helll can anyone respect a guy who became a star by using backstage politics.

He basically said give me the WWE title or I'm leaving.



That's the problem with cm punk and his fanboys, they act like there's nobody in the world besides him.


Also, I just realized something with his walk out. His fanboys will always be on his n-ts, doesn't matter what he does.


He can kill their own family and they'll still sing his praises.

So, Punk said "give me the title or I leave".
Then, why didn't WWE just let him leave? Oh wait, because Punk was money. Idiot.

 

[AegonTargaryen]

Psst.

GOAT does hate the Undertaker and has stated in multiple threads this information.

To GOAT, seemingly, if you aren't named Rock or Austin you should retire. And those two should come back full time.

Psst. That guy is confusing and whimsical so it's uncertain to judge whom he really likes or dislikes but true with the Rock/Austin thing. At one point he even started a thread "Why the rock SUCKS!!" and immediately following that were the endless two dozen-some "The Rock must return!!" threads, which torment and haunt Wrestlezone members to this day!

Actually I used a wrong example. The undertaker's flaws which I enlisted are not minor but major. They essentially make him unlikeable and boring. But it's not justified or logical to dislike a wrestler like CM Punk/Steve Austin because of their "attitude" or because they decided to not show up/quit. At the end of the day, I'll take a wrestler with bad attitude/passion such as HBK was in the 90s, or Punk, over somebody who's repetitive and unevolving in the long run, lets say Cena and Undertaker(repetitive and unevolved since the streak reached its peak creatively, at WM 26), and Daniel Bryan. But I agree that it's nothing but bias which is causes folks like GOAT to dislike Punk-essentially a must-see character/wrestler until the 2013 who provided us with a much-needed change from the John Cena rut.

 

[scomvp316]

Who are you to say Punk is "obsessed" with Twitter?... Punk has said many times once he leaves WWE, he never wants to be heard from again. Why would he do interviews talking about the situation? He wants to move on from wresting. That's why he's not using Twitter right now, so he doesn't have to read a bunch of people asking him about the situation. That's all the tweets he would get, asking why he left, when he's coming back.. The best thing to do is to leave CM Punk alone. The only reason he's relevant right now is because his fans can't get over the fact Punk is done and they keep trying to come up with scenarios on how to bring him back. Like saying it's a "work", he'll be back at WrestleMania. There's no way Punk can leave WWE, right?... Wrong! Some people just want to move on, he's getting married now, maybe his new goals are to settle down and have kids. Maybe he really is moving on with his life.. So just stop it.

You're just one of those fans that wants to believe Punk is coming back, when in reality he's not.

First of all fans have the rights to their own opinion
how do you know hes not coming back
Punk said on his last DVD hes obsessed with twitter because of insomnia
So AJ comes to the ring wearing an engagement so it must be real
Why doesn't Miz wear his ring?
Its a work
Just a week before he left he said in an interview he has had many clashes with creative but at the end of the day he is just a foot soldier That was from a report here on WZ
he stays relevant not because of the fans but because mainstream media sees him on a popular tv show and sporting events

 

[boywithbluehanger]

I've disliked CM Punk (the character) ever since the latter half of his SES gimmick. I really enjoyed him in the midcard overall as a face and the bulk of his work as a heel while he was the leader of the Straight Edge Society. After that, it just seemed as if the writing for his character was awful. The New Nexus stuff was lame, the Voice of the Voiceless gimmick was only good for "The Pipebomb" and MAYBE one other speech. Aside from those 2 speeches, it was a watered-down gimmick that was very loosely based on one night of rebellious behavior. It went nowhere. What's worse is that the company really gave a terrific effort in trying to allow CM Punk to catch on to become "the next big thing". After his character wasn't even the biggest babyface in the company (Cena and Daniel Bryan got louder reactions in 2012), they chose to turn Punk heel. This was sadly even worse than his face run. He'd go on long pointless (albeit eloquent) speeches about demanding respect from live crowds and then the next week he'd proclaim that he didn't care about what the people thought. So overall, his heel gimmick was even more senseless than his paper-thin face gimmick.

And it got worse...yet again.

The pre-planned booking of Punk holding onto the championship caused Ryback's momentum to be squashed. Ryback, a dude who got himself over WITHOUT much help from other notable talent, was being pushed aside in favor for a guy who was struggling to get people to hate (or even care) about his character direction. Even Daniel Bryan was more over than Punk at the time and he was twiddling his thumbs in the tag team division. ALL of this just so the "Punk Project" could succeed. The most interesting and entertaining aspect of Punk's WWE title reign was the involvement of Paul Heyman. I'm very thankful that he came around because the way the writing was utilizing Punk was just abysmal. Heyman at least diverted the attention from Punk's (or the creative team's) inability to create an engaging heel gimmick.

Then to add more pain to my heart, the company felt forced to justify Punk's (booked) greatness by later having him face the Undertaker at Wrestlemania. Then after that, they further tried to validate his greatness by having him face Lesnar at Summer Slam. They really gave him a lot of opportunities to catch on and become the "next big thing" but the gimmick was just so nonexistent and pathetically/loosely based on a speech given one random night on RAW in 2011.

Punk's SES gimmick was what he should have been instructed to stick with. Cena's creed to live by is "Hustle, Loyalty, and Respect" and it fits well within his G.I.-Joe/Superman gimmick. Undertaker is a "zombified" anomaly. Randy Orton (when in his best gimmick) is a Psychotic Viper whose demented thoughts take form in the ring as a torturous snake stalking it's prey. These guys had solid gimmicks when they were at their best but CM Punk essentially had no continuous gimmick to keep him interesting as either a face or heel. That's why I really began losing interest in the character the moment the SES storyline was coming to a close.

As far as the man (the actor) goes, I don't know him so I can't say I dislike him...although if I had to guess, I probably don't. That (surprisingly) probably applies to most people I'm a supporter of as well.

 

[Rvdrvd]

I don't like CM Punk because he's a F*****G strait edge goofball. I spent my twenties getting into fights with damn strait edgers in Denver. Don't smoke or drink if you don't want, but don't pick a fight with someone who likes to have fun just to be a jerk. Damn strait edgers.

 

[Punk_Aries_Daniels_Bryan]

I have been a fan of Punk's for years, going back to his CZW days. He has, however, given me some pet peeves over the years.
1. While I respect him for his Straight Edge lifestyle, I found the SES to be annoying towards the end, he was a total debbie downer lol.
2.He kinda butchers the Macho Elbow.
3. While I love the GTS as a finisher, it requires the one taking it to actually take it right and sell it, which a lot of guys don't do thus making it look sloppy a lot.
4. He unfortunately has developed a "5 moves of doom" routine
5. His ring work slipped a little in 2013, he was pretty banged up so I can understand that
6. His attitude is cringe worthy at times, not necessarily whiny, but self entitled and pretty egotistical.

This is my first post in the forum so don't S&@! on me too hard hahaha
BANG BANG!, Have a nice day!!!

To your first point:
Lol the whole point of that was for you to find it annoying and irritating, and/or to hate and want to kick his ass off screen. He wanted the most negative heat from the WWE fans that he could get, and became one of the most hated guys ever. If you meant that you disliked his promos during the SES, then I would disagree with you but you're entitled to your opinion and I respect that.

To your second point:
He has been ever since the injuries started catching up to him, I think when he was taking all those suicide moves during Mania 29 and a real physical match against Lesnar, he wasn't able to get that elevation and wasn't selling it as well. He uses that move more as a tribute to the Macho man, just like I believe Bryan using the flying headbutt is his way to give tribute to Chris Benoit.

To your third and fourth point:
Can't disagree with that. Good point. It sucks that he doesn't use the Pepsi Plunge anymore either.
Injuries I believe, and I guess almost all big stars get it as well. Bryan has it too now.

Welcome to the forums, great first post . Looking forward to reading more of yours.

 

[Kizzani]

What made me dislike CM punk....wow now that goes back far far.

DISCLAIMER:This is a article about the CHARACTER CM Punk, not about Philip Brooks

CM Punk to me has always been a fake. Since officially joined the WWE. He came is a high potential Indy guy, with tons of promise. Except he has always been surrounded by groups of far less talented players. Then his constant regurgitation of the same old storyline BS.

Second City saints --->The Gathering----> New Breed ----> ECW Originals ----> Straight Edge--> Nexus. Every single time he joins a new group he uses them up and they all seems to fall away.

SCS : Colt Cabana, Ace Steel ( who ?)
Gathering: Julio Dinero, Cassidy Riley ( Again Who?)
New Breed:Elijah Burke, Marcus Cor Von, Matt Striker, Kevin Thorn ( all went wayside)
ECW Originals: These guys were bonafide stars before Punk, they brought him up, the opposite of what he does.
Straight edge: Gallows and Joey Mercury (vanished)
Nexus: Husky Harris, Michael McGillicutty (Both Changed their names, Bray Wyatt is Beast w/o punk)
THE ONLY PERSON CM punk has aligned himself with and helped get to the top is Daniel Bryan and it is also the same reason he has pretended to leave (oh you will see tonight what I mean WM30) don't think Punk isn't butthurt.

Now nothing works well without seeing the contrast ( this means example of others groups assisting)

Degeneration X......We all knew HBK, Triple H but the New Age Outlaws were brought up to the top because of DX.
Triple H and Flair.....They took Batista and Orton to the Next level.
Ron Simmons ( Nation of Domination) brought up the ROCK, D-LO brown and turned Once "Kama Mustfa, and papa Shango " and became Godfather. Then pushed the once Blackjack to the next level JBL.

This is what team players do, they elevated their teammates to the next level or at least Assist in it.

How about some feuds, there has to be some feuds that CM Punk had that elevated other Wrestlers RIGHT?

Mike Knox ( nope)
Hardcore Holly ( nope)
Umaga ( nope)
Punk Mentored (Darren Young) this made Darren Young....Nothing oh well
Rey Mysterio ( nope)
Del Rio (nope)
Daniel Bryan (Well after all this time, finally someone is elevated by punk but even more after he left)

You can pick ANY Superstar and see the feuds they had lead to assisting others. Not Punk the ME ME guy of WWE.

Punks walking out twice is such a lame version of any story, unless he is actually fighting somewhere else everyone knows it is a work. Very similar to Juan Cena, come on people.

They you have "Mr Original" as he says.
SCS and SES are the same damn thing.
Clobberin time is a direct rip off of the thing.
Pepsi Plunge (Pepsi huh, yeah never heard of them before punk)
Even his feud with Triple H was so similar to SCSA and DX it is uncanny.

And finally just as I was starting come back around to saying maybe I could like this guy.....He speaks these words to Jake the Snake roberts at the end of a match where Jake is sticking his snake in someones mouth "Jake, no this is PG remember" ( Mr PipeBomb, Mr Buck the System, Mr I do want I want and say what I please) then he goes and walks out again ( Marshawn Lynch has beastmode, CM punk has B*&^Hmode)

And that is why I dislike even hate CM PUNK......Not Philip Brooks.