AW Seemingly Done With WWE; Ranting on Twitter
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A "little" rape joke? Riiiight...
Oh, and I don't suppose I have to explain the difference between a live TV show watched by millions of people and regulated by the FCC and a PPV watched by 300,000 people, do I? Or the difference in that same TV show and an Internet video service?
Well, maybe for you I do. Just let me know.
Says the person who thinks rape is a "little joke", and doesn't understand the difference between a TV show watched by 4+ million people and a PPV from 6-7 years ago watched by 300,000 people.
How about the "you're fucking stupid" card? Can I still play that on your ridiculous post?
Great, you're fucking stupid.
Moon Knight
Original Prince of Darkness
Please tell me this a joke? Do you not know the difference between a live TV show and an internet video?
shattered dreams
Hexagonal Hedonist
It took me until recently to realize just how much influence they have.
What does the FCC have to do with anything when it comes to this situation?
WhatAboutRaven
Is a lazy ass
I was going to say none of them made rape jokes (which, for the record kobe jokes were lame two weeks after the incident happened, so just one more reason aw's departure means nothing)
Side note, how do you function being this dumb? serious question
Anyway, trying...trying....Nope, no fucks given. AW was boring on ECW as a talk show host, and he was at best average as a manager for the prime time players, so I'm failing to see the whole loss in this situation. Unless Darren or Titus can suddenly sprout mic skills, maybe now they'll gtfo my tv.
Fire Marshall Bill
Let me show ya somethin!!!
While I think that his release was complete bullshit, and just shows how far society has fallen, I'm not going to miss him at all. He was annoying as hell. He never should've had that live mic on during matches in the first place.
On a side note, I guess that explains why he got his ass kicked last night...
On a side note, I guess that explains why he got his ass kicked last night...
Hard Hit Prince
Not really working as a
I just feel the necessity to say: FUCK YOU LINDA!! You can suck my dick!!
A man who is willing to make light of rape in front of a live TV audience might also be willing to make other comments, comments which could lead to issues with the FCC. From the FCC's website:
Source: http://www.fcc.gov/guides/obscenity-indecency-and-profanity
Considering the WWE actively promotes itself as a children's show...you can see how it could be a problem.
Society has fallen because an employer doesn't want an employee who makes comments which potentially offends millions of people?
Perhaps you can explain.
klunderbunker
Welcome to My (And Not Sly's) House
Parts of this thread astound me.
AW, a low level manager who is mic'd up during his matches and offers such insight as "come on guys" and "get him Titus", said something offensive and stupid during a live broadcast and was let go.....and people are mad/upset/offended by it? If you worked for a company that is known to the public and said the same thing, you would be fired too. It was an offensive and over the line statement and he was fired for it. That's life.
As for his rant, I find it very immature. He brings up the Attitude Era and how it would have been ok back then. You know what wouldn't have been ok then? AW, because he wouldn't have gotten a job back then. He goes on a big rant about the PG Era but he didn't seem to mind it when it was paying his bills. Going on a big rant against a company that allowed you to be on national television at least once a week because YOU said something stupid is about as immature as you can get. He deserves whatever scorn he gets.
AW, a low level manager who is mic'd up during his matches and offers such insight as "come on guys" and "get him Titus", said something offensive and stupid during a live broadcast and was let go.....and people are mad/upset/offended by it? If you worked for a company that is known to the public and said the same thing, you would be fired too. It was an offensive and over the line statement and he was fired for it. That's life.
As for his rant, I find it very immature. He brings up the Attitude Era and how it would have been ok back then. You know what wouldn't have been ok then? AW, because he wouldn't have gotten a job back then. He goes on a big rant about the PG Era but he didn't seem to mind it when it was paying his bills. Going on a big rant against a company that allowed you to be on national television at least once a week because YOU said something stupid is about as immature as you can get. He deserves whatever scorn he gets.
The Dragon Saga
Whale in a Teardrop
I'm with the black guy in the thread who used the color card cause AW is black, that's a new one.
shattered dreams
Hexagonal Hedonist
So he is fired because when he is in character he makes a comment fitting of the character one time and because that might offend people or supposedly might make other comments that could possibly lead to FCC issues? Seems like a lot of speculation which is why people are rightly accusing the WWE of being hypersensitive to these things. The FCC thing has no direct relevance to this situation as what he said is not an FCC issue in the least. WWE just put someone who has been convicted of rape in their HOF.
Yes, well with parents maybe. However, I think that is a convenient way to look at it. The truth is WWE is presenting conflicting agendas for their talent due to their transitional issues with going towards a more kids oriented product. To categorize Raw as a children's show is misleading. They still have over 75% of their audience over 18 and I don't remember the exact figures but I think no more than 15% of the audience is under 13. The issue is that they have lost more adult males than they have gained kids. The talent is then stuck walking some line in between the two whenever WWE wants to get their numbers up for something. DX was a focal point of the big recent show and they tell people to suck it and make sodomy jokes. Is what this guy did really that much worse? WWE has the right to do what they want but the way I see it they tend to shift the blame conveniently to the talent whenever these things come up. At some point you have to put some blame on the direction they are getting. I don't know if this guy is a heel or not but in general WWE is going to run in to trouble at some point if they irradiate the ability of their heels to actually be disliked.
If WWE wants to be a kids show they need to go the whole way and as long as they refuse to they bear some responsibility when things like this happen. Scapegoating the talent inconsistently is the reason that people are correctly questioning how WWE handles this sort of thing.
George Steele's Barber
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"Mommy, what happens if you are in a hotel room with Kobe Bryant?"
"Oh Jr. he allegedly shoves his dick in your ass whether you want him to or not. Now go back to watching professional wrestling and know that nothing you are picking up on from that show would ever make me go to the press to complain."
End scene.
AW is not worth it, his post release rantings are more proof of that. Linda's campaign or the NBA/US Olympic Basketball may have had some influence in all of this but since AW is such a little to no talent it seems like a pretty cut and dry decision. People can call 'hypocrisy' as much as they like but that is the entertainment and political world for you.
"Oh Jr. he allegedly shoves his dick in your ass whether you want him to or not. Now go back to watching professional wrestling and know that nothing you are picking up on from that show would ever make me go to the press to complain."
End scene.
AW is not worth it, his post release rantings are more proof of that. Linda's campaign or the NBA/US Olympic Basketball may have had some influence in all of this but since AW is such a little to no talent it seems like a pretty cut and dry decision. People can call 'hypocrisy' as much as they like but that is the entertainment and political world for you.
therockiswwf
The voice of Michael Cole's headset
Wait shouldn't this be the opposite?
What he did is not something that they can do (IE Family Guy can make fun of Kobe because their audience is not children). He (even though a heel) is still somewhat of a role model and good for WWE trying to clean up their product (I never want to go through Mark Henry/Sammy again). Instead of this being bullshit it should be AW is a dumbshit.
PS - Still hate Kobe though.
Yes.
It's easy for those people to accuse the WWE of being hypersensitive when they are just fans, not people who are directly involved. For those who are actually involved, the people whose financial futures are on the line, the people who have to deal with FCC investigations and so on, I'm sure it makes a lot more sense.
Not surprisingly, the 15-24 year old male wrestling fanbase is only thinking of themselves and their entertainment.
The last thing he said? No. The next thing he could have said? Very possibly.
And if Mike Tyson were to come on WWE Raw next Monday and joke about it, I'm sure the WWE would not allow him to return either.
Not really, and if the talent is so confused, then the talent should be asking permission for anything they want to say but aren't sure fits with the WWE image. You know, like most employees have to do.
How is this scapegoating the talent? Assuming he was fired for Kobe Bryant comment...AW is the one who said the Kobe Bryant comment. Unless there was someone backstage who told him to do so, or okay him to do so, it's not scapegoating.
shattered dreams
Hexagonal Hedonist
IMO it depends what they told him to do. The company can have some responsibility without specifically telling him to say those words. He is playing a character and they put him on a live mic. The comment he made seems fairly fitting with what little I know about the character. At some point the character and direction have some responsibility in what happened. From the outside looking in it seems like WWE is extremely wishy washy when it comes to what they want they want people to do. Why are they giving unscripted segments if they are so particular about what is put out there? The punishments seem very reactionary, inconsistent and focused on the individual opposed to addressing the issues in the process that are repeatedly leading to these situations.
dave said:
Dave Meltzer's words here;
And while I agree with you.
There's a point made here.
Well, neither of us knows what the WWE told him to do.
What we do know is that AW hasn't seemed shy about criticizing the WWE. It seems to me if they don't him to go out and make a controversial rape joke, he might have mentioned it.
No doubt we cannot be certain what WWE told AW to say or not to say, but you can be damn sure that they didn't tell him to make a rape joke about Kobe Bryant.