Are some TNA fans stupid?

[My$terio_Fan]

Ok a though occured to me while reading the TNA section and old and new threads. Alot of TNA fans are precieved as being stupid or irrational.

TNA starts as this little organization that could. The first year or two, TNA was recieving high praise for their promotion. Fans and general watchers alike commented on the great wrestling matches, interesting new guys, and the overall feel of the show.

TNA really seemed like a huge hit on the internet and you couldn't log on without seeing something about AJ Styles, Somoa Joe, or the X Division. Alot of fans really believed in the product and believed TNA could someday compete with the WWE. So the show slowly grew in popularity.


After a few years when TNA started recieving some industry buzz, they began to hire some big named stars to boost the roster. Angle, Nash, Booker, Christian, Sting, ect all came to the roster and even lower card former stars like Rikishi, Test, Billy Gunn, Gail Kim, Duddleys, Matt Morgan, ect. At first the TNA fans seemed happy and content that the show was finally getting reaction from stars, but soon fans began to cry foul.

Many internet fans blasted TNA for losing their objective, and losing their originality. They hated that "rejects" from other companies were taking center stage, well guys like Styles, the X-Division, and Joe were put on the back burner.

Now the majority of the time TNA fans bitch more than their WWE counterparts. They blast the direction TNA has went in and blame people like Angle, Jarett, Russo, and Dixie for the mess of a product. But it almost seems as the # of threads bitching about "TNA Sucks" began to rise, the rating also seemed to rise too.

So it could be said that while TNA might have stopped catering to the "Original TNA" fans and started in a new direction, this direction is working. TNA is gaining, slowly but surely. While many IWC fans are pissed at the storylines, feuds, ect the general audience seems to be falling for TNA.

So are TNA fans stupid to want the original TNA back when the new product is looking up? Or are they wiser than they appear, and think that maybe without the "rejects" and going into a WWE "light" direction the audience would have gained even more?

On a business stand point should TNA keep following the same direction? Or take a risk and try something different.

I can see both sides personally. I think TNA fans are stupid at times(or naive)at wanting the original back since the "new" TNA is more popular and mainstream. But I can see why they would bitch, remember recycled WWE guys and storylines will only get you so far.

So are TNA fans stupid/naive? Or are they really more informed then most think? Should quality rule over profit? And if profit and viewership is up, does that mean the quality is betteR?

 

[TheHardyBoyz]

The "Original NWA-TNA" Was Alright, Most Fans Considered It To Be Hardcore, TNA Wanted To Be Different From WWE'S Drama Show, They Have Great Talent And Are Slowly Gaining Their Audience And Ratings They Bring Fresh Ideas To The Product And Thats What Really Impresses Me, You Bring Up A Good Point The Original TNA Fan's Are Stupid For Not Bringing Newer Ideas They Just Want The Same Old Storylines Etc.. Like The WWE Has, Anyway My Point Is I Like TNA And I Also Liked The NWA Days That Had But Its Time To Bring In Something New,Different,Fresh People Should Think TNA Is For That Reason.

 

[yoshi_doce2006]

I have also noticed pretty much all of what you have said. I myself have even commented that many storylines are a little off in TNA. Like the latest Angle with Eric Young. I like that Young is hopefully going to be getting a push but I don't buy him as the leader of anything other than a boyscout troop, let alone a faction of wrestlers. He just doesn't strike me as a leader. However I watch TNA for the in ring product which I feel is better than any other out there. I mean I saw the pre-six sided ring days and they had matches that were just brutal to watch, then when they switched rings it really took off. I believe that while the old product after the six sided ring was great it needs to evolve a bit from that, improve on past success.

Unfortunately the writing over the last 18 months hasn't been the best as they completely botched a potentially great angle with the TNA Frontline as the most glaring. But the product even with these blotches is still very good and the last few weeks have seen some of the best shows TNA has put on in over a year. That 200th episode show was excellent in every way from the promos to the matches. If that show is an example of the direction TNA is going now I am excited about it.

Some of the TNA Original Fans need to realize that this product is good and getting better. Maybe it's due to the changes in creative that the product is improving again, maybe it is the Main Event Mafia, maybe it is the fact that all of the in ring performers are all stepping up their game, or maybe...just maybe it is all of the above coming together at once. It is an exciting time to watch TNA and anyone who has ever watched TNA and stopped my advice would be to tune in because guys are really starting to step it up.

 

[Slyfox696]

The biggest thing about this is that the majority of the people who liked TNA early on were IWC members. The people who create hate threads about TNA now are IWC members. One of these days, perhaps, these IWC members will realize that they have absolutely ZERO idea what it takes to be a successful wrestling company.

TNA's fans, themselves, are not stupid. However, the type of fan an indy promotion tends to attract are the hardcore blind self-professed smark, and since TNA started as any indy, that's the type of fan they originally had. Once they decided to become profitable and move up in the wrestling world, they quit catering to those fans and began catering to the fans that actually matter.

 

[TellMeWhy]

The thing is that the TNA fans that followed the product and claim to no longer watch are only consumed with themselves. I've been a TNA fan since the beginning and I understand that right now they're trying to do the best they can to reach the casual fanbase to grow their business to stay alive and I cannot fault them for that.

 

[Uncle Sam]

Yes, they are.

The first post is - rather obviously - much, much too long to read. They are stupid because they chant "this is awesome!" during Steel Asylum matches. Steel Asylum matches are anything but awesome. Therefore, TNA fans lack intelligence.

Oh, and most of them are tourists at a theme park. Probably.

 

[yoshi_doce2006]

So Monster let me get this strait. Because TNA fans (like myself) like things such as the Steele Asylum we are stupid? Are you saying that TNA fans because they like going to theme parks don't have intelligence? Are you blaming TNA for choosing a location that has a strong local fan base and guaranteed fans that come in while they are at the parks?

That has to be the most idiotic reasoning for calling people unintelligent. I have a 144 IQ and I love the Steele Asylum. Facts say I am a genius yet according to you I am unintelligent because I like the Steele Asylum. Unfortunately for you that reasoning makes you sound like the idiot.

 

[Uncle Sam]

So Monster let me get this strait. Because TNA fans (like myself) like things such as the Steele Asylum we are stupid?

Are you saying you like the Steel Asylum? But yes, the answer is yes.

Are you saying that TNA fans because they like going to theme parks don't have intelligence? Are you blaming TNA for choosing a location that has a strong local fan base and guaranteed fans that come in while they are at the parks?

Yes. I have nothing but disrespect for the theme park community.

That has to be the most idiotic reasoning for calling people unintelligent. I have a 144 IQ and I love the Steele Asylum.

I'm guessing English isn't your first language then?

Facts say I am a genius yet according to you I am unintelligent because I like the Steele Asylum. Unfortunately for you that reasoning makes you sound like the idiot.

Good for you, man. Good for you.

 

[2012isbs]

To be a smart ass, atleast 40 tna fans are probably stupid.
It's not that their stupid it's that they have different tastes and plus the people that come to the shows probably doesn't watch wrestling so they have no idea what they're cheering for, so I guess over half the people that go to that show are naive if anyhitng. No the original TNA fans aren't stupid they just don't like new TNA it's like how a lot of original ECW fans don't like WWECW, that doesn't make them stupid it just means they don't like something.

 

[finoj05]

NEWSFLASH: There are stupid people EVERYWHERE and they like EVERYTHING. TNA or WWE or Wrestling are not alone. There are stupid fans of EVERYTHING.

Also, the internet fans are usually at least half-right on talking about good/bad decisions. I hate when people claim "The internet audience knows jack and shit about what makes a good wrestling product" Seriously? Just because we use the internet, we automatically are dumb and can't be insiders?

I don't get that idea at all. Everyone has their different dumb opinions, but for the most part, the internet is right. If you are finding people that are wrong, than you are paying attention to the wrong people. Cause like everything else, there are dumb people all around us.

However, again, for the most part, the best journalist and re-cappers on the top IWC sites are correct. Pacman Jones was a bad idea, Diva Search was a bad idea, Jenna/Sharmell wrestling was a waste of time and who called it? The internet.

 

[Da Blind Man]

TNA fans are dumb always chanting TNA,this is awesome it lose affect after awhile.
TNA and Jeff Jerett claim to want the best for TNA but pushes the ex0WWe guys when they are past their prime!
They promote themselfs and their matches too much With backstage interviews and muggings the matches are ruined by awful commentering ridded rules and interferences!
They take good idea overuse it abuse it add a endless number of twists and turns that they mat not even follow or look at the repercasins add the overstuffed and unused roster and thats fucking TNA!

All this on a weeky basis who enjoys that for so long?

 

[Kenny Powers]

TNA fans are dumb always chanting TNA,this is awesome it lose affect after awhile.
TNA and Jeff Jerett claim to want the best for TNA but pushes the ex0WWe guys when they are past their prime!
They promote themselfs and their matches too much With backstage interviews and muggings the matches are ruined by awful commentering ridded rules and interferences!
They take good idea overuse it abuse it add a endless number of twists and turns that they mat not even follow or look at the repercasins add the overstuffed and unused roster and thats fucking TNA!

All this on a weeky basis who enjoys that for so long?

Not to get off on a rant here but when was the last time you heard a WWE chant or this is awesome on any WWE show? The only chants I've heard are Entourage is Gay and This is Boring. Just saying, not taking anything away from WWE. They will do fine with or without my opinion. But fans are dumb because they enjoy themselves at a show? I'm sorry but whether you like the show or not if its getting a reaction then TNA has to be doing something right. Overstuffed and unused roster.. I think all the talent is being utilized right now. We haven't see MCMG but we will this week. I think most haters of TNA can't stand the Samoe Joe heel turn. It happened weeks ago, get over it. You are still watching aren't you? well you probably aren't since you've said the roster was overstuffed and underused. Overstuffed? Counting all the wrestlers, women, and announcers TNA has 61 members on their roster. Counting all of WWE's talent they have 87 members. But no feuds for the U.S title and only 4 tag teams. Pathetic. Learn how to use grammar before you type next time so people know what the hell you're talking about. The ratings show why people enjoy it on a weekly basis.

 

[Jack-Hammer]

Are TNA fans stupid? I'd have to say no but a sizable portion of them just aren't realistic when it comes to the facts of running a successful pro wrestling company in this day and age.

A very healthy portion of the IWC consists of dreamers. They want to see certain storylines, certain wrestlers in certain spots or feuds and certain wrestlers get pushed because it's what they personally like. Now the problem with that is that, quite a bit of the time, these personal wants aren't necessarily in the best interest of TNA in and of itself. For example, I've read a few posts in the past regarding Doug Williams and predictions that he'll be TNA World Champion. There were a few that basically said they already think he should be TNA World Champ not necessarily because he's actually ready for it, but because those posters are fans of the guy. So many IWC members want dream matches all the time or they criticize every match or feud if it doesn't turn out to be something that sets the industry on its ear. If it's not an epic happening almost every week, they get bored with it.

Now, once again, I'm not talking about TNA fans altogether, some simply love what TNA is doing right now and others feel TNA has sold out. Ultimately, it's about what makes money. If a wrestling company can't make money, then it's going to go belly up. At the end of the day, you're going to have to just plop down and either watch the product or not. I'm not really a fan of what TNA is doing right now, but I do watch it because I do hope that it improves. Another high profile company in pro wrestling isn't a bad thing at all and I want to see TNA succeed.

 

[Ambiguous Turd]

TNA fans are certainly no more stupid than WWE fans. Each company has its share of smarks, as well as marks. Plus, each company unquestionably each has its share of loyalists who are attached to each brand by blind faith and obedience.

As pointed out, TNA fans are sure as Hell a lot more enthusiastic at the shows than the WWE fans are. WWE can bring in more fans, but it certainly is pretty depressing watching them sit and watch most of the show in utter silence at what they are seeing. Hot crowds can make a world of difference in how the product comes off on television, and TNA unquestionably has the edge in that regard. Why make fun of them for it?

 

[Da Blind Man]

Not to get off on a rant here but when was the last time you heard a WWE chant or this is awesome on any WWE show? The only chants I've heard are Entourage is Gay and This is Boring. Just saying, not taking anything away from WWE. They will do fine with or without my opinion. But fans are dumb because they enjoy themselves at a show? I'm sorry but whether you like the show or not if its getting a reaction then TNA has to be doing something right. Overstuffed and unused roster.. I think all the talent is being utilized right now. We haven't see MCMG but we will this week. I think most haters of TNA can't stand the Samoe Joe heel turn. It happened weeks ago, get over it. You are still watching aren't you? well you probably aren't since you've said the roster was overstuffed and underused. Overstuffed? Counting all the wrestlers, women, and announcers TNA has 61 members on their roster. Counting all of WWE's talent they have 87 members. But no feuds for the U.S title and only 4 tag teams. Pathetic. Learn how to use grammar before you type next time so people know what the hell you're talking about. The ratings show why people enjoy it on a weekly basis.

WWE fans are quite because Vince doesn't want them and everyone else to get all wild and rowdy like in the "attitude era", while part of me hates it{didn't watch wrestling back than} I have no choice but to respect it.
Sorry if I offended you by saying"TNA is overstuffed" but it is underused:
MCMG hasn't had in a month
Creed & Jay same thing{think they got screwed last time}
Suicide hasn't been since losing the X division title
Kip & BG James who?
Amazing Red throw his last mafch WTH?
Jeff Jarett leaving & hasn't been seen don/t forget he is the founder!
Rhaka Khan & Socal Val both no shows
Shark Boy & Christy Hemee & Sojourner Bolt who?
Jesse O Neal & Rhino training
Hector Guerreo & Jim Cornette Man who run TNA
Revan & Daffney what how?
Bobby Lashley working with MMA

Add that up and you divide roster in half, not counting announcers, interviewers,mangers. OH and the WWE is divided into 3 brands 87 divided by 3 is like 30 per brand plus some more for ECW so 30.

Don't know why WWE has only 5 tag teams but we can always create more unlike TNA,

 

[Kenny Powers]

Well MCMG are going to be on Impact and Suicide hasn't been on to repackage the character. Kip and BG James aren't even wrestling on Impact so don't worry about those guys. Jeff Jarrett is still in the company. Rhaka Khan is no longer in the company and So Cal Val is doing playboy. Shark Boy is still wrestling along with Daffney and Rhyno. Most the people you have said are underused are either working house shows or are not even in the company. A lot of them are still on Impact. Bobby Lashley is with MMA but he is also full time with TNA now. I don't think you realize that TNA only has one 2 hour show. They do the best they can with the talent. I would rather see Matt Morgan and AJ Styles then Shark Boy or Jesee Neal any day. The same goes for the rest of the roster. I think the fans would rather see MEM, Word Elite, Samoa Joe, Lax, Team 3D, Foley, The Knockouts, and Lashley instead of Socal Val or Kip James. TNA has more then 5 tag teams you got Team 3D, Beer Money, Steiner/Booker, British Invasion, MCMG, along with world elite. A lot more then WWE has with only 4. WWE is divided into three brands but has enough talent to make tag teams and do some feuds. Instead they have their talent take a back seat to celebrities and comedy skits.