2pac vs . The Beetles
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It's The Beatles. Not the beetles. And they are what made music. If it wasn't for The Beatles music would not have taken it's biggest step in history. They inspired so many great bands and without them so many greats would not be around. 2pac is an embodiment of rap, perhaps, but The Beatles are the embodiment of music. They had 27 number one singles. 27. More than any other artist ever. They covered so many genres, country, rock, acid, whatever. They were so incredible that women would actually faint in their concerts, just from the excitement. They were The British Invasion. The Beatles are immortal through their music.
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I can't stand The Beatles, so, if I were picking purely on taste, I would go with 2-Pac. But, I don't think there has been a band that has been as influential as The Beatles. Thus, I have to go with them (ugh...reason really pisses me off sometimes).
2pac
He and Biggie truly revolutionized rap/Hip-hop int the top genre it is today. You see Tupac Shakur was almost born in prison had no daddy lived in a poor house with a crack infested mom who payed a important part in the black panthers. Shakur had a mixed childhood with racial prejudices and more. Now Shakur started Rapping in the 1990s as a Rodie for the underground he at that time was like a early TI of rap. The moment that made him a legend was in that fateful year of 94. After making the album Thug Life 2pac was best friends with up and coming rapper Biggie Smalls. On November 30 1994 2pac was shot 4 times at a Brooklyn recording studio. He said Big did it. After Bigs track Who Shot Ya? was released the feud began East-West Bloods vs. Crips everything started but most importantly Pac had real lyrics. Every time he got on the track it had meaning he was betrayed fake ass fools was gunning him down Pac imo is the best poet musician ever because his lyrics spoke a story of betrayal revenge and life
He and Biggie truly revolutionized rap/Hip-hop int the top genre it is today. You see Tupac Shakur was almost born in prison had no daddy lived in a poor house with a crack infested mom who payed a important part in the black panthers. Shakur had a mixed childhood with racial prejudices and more. Now Shakur started Rapping in the 1990s as a Rodie for the underground he at that time was like a early TI of rap. The moment that made him a legend was in that fateful year of 94. After making the album Thug Life 2pac was best friends with up and coming rapper Biggie Smalls. On November 30 1994 2pac was shot 4 times at a Brooklyn recording studio. He said Big did it. After Bigs track Who Shot Ya? was released the feud began East-West Bloods vs. Crips everything started but most importantly Pac had real lyrics. Every time he got on the track it had meaning he was betrayed fake ass fools was gunning him down Pac imo is the best poet musician ever because his lyrics spoke a story of betrayal revenge and life
and yet the Beatles have some of the highest album sales in history. They have sold millions and millions of albums after they were broken up. Tupac wont be able to say that. No one influenced music as much as the Beatles, and its funny that 30+ years later stations still play there music. By 1972 they already sold 545 million albums. Thats great, too this date it is said that they have sold over 1 billion albums or units...
Giving the history of Tupac hardly shows how amazing he is. The Beatles had a long history as well, but this is about the music and the influence, not how many times they were shot (For the record, Lennon was shot four times and Harrison stabbed many more). You know the 60s scene, the summer of love, all that? That was The Beatles. Lyrical structure and poetry? Listen to songs like In My Life, Something, Let It Be. Considered some of the most beautiful songs of all time. And that's just the start. They had everything. They revolutionized music.
he didn't revolutionize shit. He is the most overrated rapper of all time. The Beatles on the other hand revolutionized a genre for the better. Millions of records that influenced countries. Did Tupac ever do that? I have never seen a rapper become a world wide phenomenon. The Beatles did...
But did Lennon or Harrison manage to resurrect themselves?
Frankly, this should be Tupac vs Jesus, with Elvis as special guest referee.
What does that prove? Lots of shit people have music videos.
Hit em up- Expressed his anger at BIG by calling him out on this track a lot of anger and emotion
All eyez on me- The BEST RAP SONG OF ALL TIME explains him overcoming the haters. This song has so much emotion it makes me cry and go through all the hate.
Hail Mary- This is his after life song. It shows the Legacy of pac ending
Against All Odds- One more feud song just deeper than Hit Em Up
Breathing- My theme song quite a nice jingle lol. I will explain more once I find the vid.
California love- State pride WEST SIDE lived on with this song. His most famous one at that.
All eyez on me- The BEST RAP SONG OF ALL TIME explains him overcoming the haters. This song has so much emotion it makes me cry and go through all the hate.
Hail Mary- This is his after life song. It shows the Legacy of pac ending
Against All Odds- One more feud song just deeper than Hit Em Up
Breathing- My theme song quite a nice jingle lol. I will explain more once I find the vid.
California love- State pride WEST SIDE lived on with this song. His most famous one at that.
Look up any rock band since 1970. I guarantee they list The Beatles as their influence. The Beatles made music what it was. Not only that they were incredible, whether it was the meaning behind the song, the lyrics, the music, the beat whatever. They were just incredible.
and what are you trying to prove?
# Most no. 1 singles in the Billboard Hot 100 charts (20 no.1s).
* "I Want to Hold Your Hand" (1964, 7 weeks), "She Loves You" (1964, 2 weeks), "Can't Buy Me Love" (1964, 5 weeks), "Love Me Do" (1964, 1 week), "A Hard Day's Night" (1964, 2 weeks), "I Feel Fine" (1964, 3 weeks), "Eight Days a Week" (1965, 2 weeks), "Ticket to Ride" (1965, 1 week), "Help!" (1965, 3 weeks), "Yesterday" (1965, 4 weeks), "We Can Work It Out" (1965, 3 weeks), "Paperback Writer" (1966, 2 weeks), "Penny Lane" (1967, 1 week), "All You Need Is Love" (1967, 1 week), "Hello, Goodbye" (1967, 3 weeks), "Hey Jude" (1968, 9 weeks), "Get Back" (1969, 5 weeks), "Come Together"/"Something" (1969, 1 week), "Let It Be" (1970, 2 weeks), "The Long and Winding Road" (1970, 2 weeks)
# Most no. 1 albums in the Billboard Top 200 albums charts (19 no.1 albums).
# Group with most consecutive top 5 hits in the Billboard Hot 100 chart (17 consecutive top 5 hits from 1964 to 1969).
# Group with most consecutive top 10 hits in the Billboard Hot 100 chart (24 consecutive top 10 hits from 1964 to 1976).
# Group with most consecutive top 20 hits in the Billboard Hot 100 chart (27 consecutive top 20 hits from 1964 to 1976).
# On April 4, 1964, the Beatles occupied the first 5 positions in the Billboard Hot 100 singles chart, the top 2 in the Billboard albums chart, the no. 1 position in the British singles chart, the first two positions in the British albums chart and the no. 1 position in the British EP chart, making this the most complete ever domination of the British and American charts in history.
# Most no. 1 singles in the Cash Box Top 100 charts (22 no.1s).
# Most no. 1 albums in the Cash Box albums charts (15 no.1 albums).
# Most weeks at no. 1 in the Cash Box albums chart (127 weeks at no. 1).
# Longest span of Top Ten singles in "Cash Box" history ("I Want To Hold Your Hand" - January 25, 1964 to "Real Love" - March 30, 1996 - 32 years, 2 months, 5 days.)
# Group with most weeks in the Cash Box albums chart (722 weeks up to 1974).
# Group with most weeks in the Cash Box singles chart (601 weeks up to 1986).
# Group with most weeks in the Record World albums chart (849 weeks up to 1982).
# Group with most weeks in the Record World singles chart (520 weeks up to 1980).
# Most no. 1 singles in the Record World Top 100 charts (23 no.1s).
# Most no. 1 albums in the Record World albums charts (17 no.1 albums).
# Most weeks at no. 1 in the Record World albums chart (123 weeks at no. 1).
thats just in the US.
* Meet the Beatles! (1964, 11 weeks), The Beatles' Second Album (1964, 5 weeks), A Hard Day's Night (1964, 14 weeks), Beatles '65 (1965, 9 weeks), Beatles VI (1965, 6 weeks), Help! (1965, 9 weeks), Rubber Soul (1965, 6 weeks), Yesterday...and Today (1966, 5 weeks), Revolver (1966, 6 weeks), Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band (1967, 15 weeks), Magical Mystery Tour (1967, 8 weeks), The Beatles (The White Album) (1969, 9 weeks), Abbey Road (1969, 11 weeks), Let It Be (1970, 4 weeks), 1967-1970 (The Blue Album) (1973, 1 week), Anthology 1 (1995, 3 weeks), Anthology 2 (1996, 1 week), Anthology 3 (1996, 1 week), 1 (2000, 8 weeks)
# Most 2-sided charted singles in the Billboard Hot 100 charts (26 singles, including two double-sided #1 hits, although "For You Blue" (B-side of "The Long And Winding Road") accompanied its A-side and did not chart on its own)
# Most weeks at no. 1 in the Billboard albums chart (132 weeks at no. 1).
# Group with most weeks in the Billboard Hot 100 chart (609 weeks).
# Group with most weeks at no. 1 in the Billboard Hot 100 chart (59 weeks at no. 1).
# Most songs inside the Billboard Hot 100 at the same time (14 songs on April 11, 1964).
# Most songs inside the Billboard Top 40 at the same time (7 songs on April 11 and 25, 1964).
# Most songs in the Billboard Top 10 at the same time (5 songs on April 4, 1964).
# Most songs in the Billboard Top 5 at the same time (5 songs on April 4, 1964).
# Most chart entries in the Billboard Hot 100 within a calendar year (30 charted songs in 1964)
# The only group to replace themselves at no. 1 in the Billboard Hot 100 twice (March 21 and April 4, 1964). It would be forty years later when Usher would tie the record.
# Most complete ever domination of the Billboard Hot 100 singles and albums chart by occupying the first 5 positions in the Hot 100 as well as the first two in the albums chart simultaneously (April 4, 1964).
# Most consecutive no. 1 albums in the Billboard albums chart (8 consecutive no. 1 albums from 1965 to 1968).
# Most consecutive top 5 albums in the Billboard albums chart (16 consecutive top 5 albums from 1965 to 1977).
# Group with the longest span of no. 1 albums in the Billboard albums chart (36 years and 51 weeks, 1964 to 2001).
# Group with most consecutive no. 1 hits in the Billboard Hot 100 (6 consecutive no. 1 hits, record shared with the Bee Gees).
# Most no. 1 albums in the Billboard albums chart in a calendar year (3 no. 1 albums in 1964, repeated in 1965 and 1966).
# Most no. 1 singles in the Billboard Hot 100 in a calendar year (6 no. 1 singles in 1964)
# The only act to have held the no. 1 and no. 2 position in the Billboard albums chart for 9 straight weeks on two separate occasions (March 2 to April 27 and August 29 to October 24, 1964).
# Most top 3 albums in the Billboard albums chart (27 top 3 albums).
# Most no. 1 singles in the Billboard Hot 100 charts (20 no.1s).
* "I Want to Hold Your Hand" (1964, 7 weeks), "She Loves You" (1964, 2 weeks), "Can't Buy Me Love" (1964, 5 weeks), "Love Me Do" (1964, 1 week), "A Hard Day's Night" (1964, 2 weeks), "I Feel Fine" (1964, 3 weeks), "Eight Days a Week" (1965, 2 weeks), "Ticket to Ride" (1965, 1 week), "Help!" (1965, 3 weeks), "Yesterday" (1965, 4 weeks), "We Can Work It Out" (1965, 3 weeks), "Paperback Writer" (1966, 2 weeks), "Penny Lane" (1967, 1 week), "All You Need Is Love" (1967, 1 week), "Hello, Goodbye" (1967, 3 weeks), "Hey Jude" (1968, 9 weeks), "Get Back" (1969, 5 weeks), "Come Together"/"Something" (1969, 1 week), "Let It Be" (1970, 2 weeks), "The Long and Winding Road" (1970, 2 weeks)
# Most no. 1 albums in the Billboard Top 200 albums charts (19 no.1 albums).
# Group with most consecutive top 5 hits in the Billboard Hot 100 chart (17 consecutive top 5 hits from 1964 to 1969).
# Group with most consecutive top 10 hits in the Billboard Hot 100 chart (24 consecutive top 10 hits from 1964 to 1976).
# Group with most consecutive top 20 hits in the Billboard Hot 100 chart (27 consecutive top 20 hits from 1964 to 1976).
# On April 4, 1964, the Beatles occupied the first 5 positions in the Billboard Hot 100 singles chart, the top 2 in the Billboard albums chart, the no. 1 position in the British singles chart, the first two positions in the British albums chart and the no. 1 position in the British EP chart, making this the most complete ever domination of the British and American charts in history.
# Most no. 1 singles in the Cash Box Top 100 charts (22 no.1s).
# Most no. 1 albums in the Cash Box albums charts (15 no.1 albums).
# Most weeks at no. 1 in the Cash Box albums chart (127 weeks at no. 1).
# Longest span of Top Ten singles in "Cash Box" history ("I Want To Hold Your Hand" - January 25, 1964 to "Real Love" - March 30, 1996 - 32 years, 2 months, 5 days.)
# Group with most weeks in the Cash Box albums chart (722 weeks up to 1974).
# Group with most weeks in the Cash Box singles chart (601 weeks up to 1986).
# Group with most weeks in the Record World albums chart (849 weeks up to 1982).
# Group with most weeks in the Record World singles chart (520 weeks up to 1980).
# Most no. 1 singles in the Record World Top 100 charts (23 no.1s).
# Most no. 1 albums in the Record World albums charts (17 no.1 albums).
# Most weeks at no. 1 in the Record World albums chart (123 weeks at no. 1).
thats just in the US.
* Meet the Beatles! (1964, 11 weeks), The Beatles' Second Album (1964, 5 weeks), A Hard Day's Night (1964, 14 weeks), Beatles '65 (1965, 9 weeks), Beatles VI (1965, 6 weeks), Help! (1965, 9 weeks), Rubber Soul (1965, 6 weeks), Yesterday...and Today (1966, 5 weeks), Revolver (1966, 6 weeks), Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band (1967, 15 weeks), Magical Mystery Tour (1967, 8 weeks), The Beatles (The White Album) (1969, 9 weeks), Abbey Road (1969, 11 weeks), Let It Be (1970, 4 weeks), 1967-1970 (The Blue Album) (1973, 1 week), Anthology 1 (1995, 3 weeks), Anthology 2 (1996, 1 week), Anthology 3 (1996, 1 week), 1 (2000, 8 weeks)
# Most 2-sided charted singles in the Billboard Hot 100 charts (26 singles, including two double-sided #1 hits, although "For You Blue" (B-side of "The Long And Winding Road") accompanied its A-side and did not chart on its own)
# Most weeks at no. 1 in the Billboard albums chart (132 weeks at no. 1).
# Group with most weeks in the Billboard Hot 100 chart (609 weeks).
# Group with most weeks at no. 1 in the Billboard Hot 100 chart (59 weeks at no. 1).
# Most songs inside the Billboard Hot 100 at the same time (14 songs on April 11, 1964).
# Most songs inside the Billboard Top 40 at the same time (7 songs on April 11 and 25, 1964).
# Most songs in the Billboard Top 10 at the same time (5 songs on April 4, 1964).
# Most songs in the Billboard Top 5 at the same time (5 songs on April 4, 1964).
# Most chart entries in the Billboard Hot 100 within a calendar year (30 charted songs in 1964)
# The only group to replace themselves at no. 1 in the Billboard Hot 100 twice (March 21 and April 4, 1964). It would be forty years later when Usher would tie the record.
# Most complete ever domination of the Billboard Hot 100 singles and albums chart by occupying the first 5 positions in the Hot 100 as well as the first two in the albums chart simultaneously (April 4, 1964).
# Most consecutive no. 1 albums in the Billboard albums chart (8 consecutive no. 1 albums from 1965 to 1968).
# Most consecutive top 5 albums in the Billboard albums chart (16 consecutive top 5 albums from 1965 to 1977).
# Group with the longest span of no. 1 albums in the Billboard albums chart (36 years and 51 weeks, 1964 to 2001).
# Group with most consecutive no. 1 hits in the Billboard Hot 100 (6 consecutive no. 1 hits, record shared with the Bee Gees).
# Most no. 1 albums in the Billboard albums chart in a calendar year (3 no. 1 albums in 1964, repeated in 1965 and 1966).
# Most no. 1 singles in the Billboard Hot 100 in a calendar year (6 no. 1 singles in 1964)
# The only act to have held the no. 1 and no. 2 position in the Billboard albums chart for 9 straight weeks on two separate occasions (March 2 to April 27 and August 29 to October 24, 1964).
# Most top 3 albums in the Billboard albums chart (27 top 3 albums).
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Last one isn't a music video. They just played on top of Apple headquarters till they got kicked out.
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Last one isn't a music video. They just played on top of Apple headquarters till they got kicked out.
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Just to name a few:
Paris Hilton, Brooke Hogan, New Radicals, The Veronicas. I could keep listing, but I won't, cause it would take too long.
My vote goes to the Fab Four. Sure, none of them have "resurrected", but then again, neither did Shakur. Tupac didn't amount to anything while he was alive, and he hasn't fared terribly well post-mortem. He's in a rare breed of people who became "icons" after he got his. The Beatles on the other hand, have continued to inspire bands, and entire genres. They've continued outselling other truly great bands. The Lads from Liverpool are true ICONS, not glorified thugs. I will now step away from the pulpit, and invite you to a rebuttal.
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Had to add. Love this song. It may have inspired tons of murders, but Manson was insane. So don't say it.
Had to add. Love this song. It may have inspired tons of murders, but Manson was insane. So don't say it.
Are you fucking kidding me? You don't think The Beatles had meaning? Listen to their songs. 2pac made hip hop what it is today, perhaps. The Beatles made rock what it is today. Hell, they really made music what it is today. You can not say 2pac had a bigger influence then The Beatles.
