2013 NHL Thread

Canucks end Red Wings Home Streak ... all I can say is nice and I am very proud of The Canucks being the ones to do it. Hopefully this will be a confidence booster game and not an energy draining one like their Jan 7 game vs. The Bruins. They beat the Bruins but you could tell in their next games it took a lot out of them. Let's hope it's not the same case with the Red Wings.

Also I love the Red Wings ... if The Red Wings and Canucks both had a baby together imagine how hot it would be.
 
Canucks end Red Wings Home Streak ... all I can say is nice and I am very proud of The Canucks being the ones to do it. Hopefully this will be a confidence booster game and not an energy draining one like their Jan 7 game vs. The Bruins. They beat the Bruins but you could tell in their next games it took a lot out of them. Let's hope it's not the same case with the Red Wings.

Also I love the Red Wings ... if The Red Wings and Canucks both had a baby together imagine how hot it would be.

Sad to see my boys lose like that. Where are all the people that bitched about their home game streak not being "real" because they did it by winning in shootouts? Well they lost in a shootout, so by their logic...this loss doesn't count!

In all seriousness though, it was bound to happen sooner or later. Wings are still the dominant team in the NHL. Props to the Canucks for being able to do it. Wings had an off night.
 
I think I just cried inside ... Cody Hodgson traded to the Sabers for Kassian (who I admit rarely heard of) makes me sad. Analysis says its a win win situation but Hodgson made such a big impact in close games tying games, scoring winning goals. It's hard too see what the Canucks gained by decreasing their scoring output.
 
I think I just cried inside ... Cody Hodgson traded to the Sabers for Kassian (who I admit rarely heard of) makes me sad. Analysis says its a win win situation but Hodgson made such a big impact in close games tying games, scoring winning goals. It's hard too see what the Canucks gained by decreasing their scoring output.

Kassian brings something to the Canucks they haven't had since Bertuzzi left the organization — an inherent desire to play mean, which should help them come playoff time. I do agree, however, that Hodgson was a steep price to pay for that kind of toughness. A very steep price.

People look at teams like Pittsburgh and wonder why they are able to maintain solid footing despite Crosby's concussion? Center depth. Malkin and Staal. That's how.

The 'Nucks have Sedin and Kesler up front, but Hodgson would have been their Jordan Staal. It's too early to say they made the wrong decision, but I'm inclined to believe it was.
 
New York Rangers, right back into first place in the NHL, and now with a 12-point lead on the 2nd place Boston Bruins—the team they just beat 4-3 in a fantastic match-up—in the Conference!

Playoffs magic number is now 12.

What's up, Habs? What's good, man?
 
New York Rangers, right back into first place in the NHL, and now with a 12-point lead on the 2nd place Boston Bruins—the team they just beat 4-3 in a fantastic match-up—in the Conference!

Me thinks that 12 point lead has dwindled, and it's not to the Bruins! ;) If I were to ask you, honest opinion, as to the whom the best team in the East is right now, would you be a homer and still say the New York Rangers? If we're basing this strictly on points-then that would be entirely valid to say, I suppose. But if we're talking best team- in the here and now, blink and tell me it's not the Pittsburgh Penguins.

With all due respect to Henrik Lundqvist- he's phenomenal- but the best goalie in the NHL right now is Marc Andre Fleury. Even missing two top-4 D-Men in Paul Martin and Kris Letang, the Penguins have given up more then 2 goals in only 2 of their past 13 games. Two thirty goal scorers, two twenty goal scorers, and.....Did I mention Sidney Crosby is scheduled to return very soon, possibly Thursday against the Rangers?

Still feeling great about the Rangers at the top of the Conference? Enjoy it while it lasts. :p
 
I really enjoy seeing two of the guys amongst my favorite posters on the forums get so excited about their respective teams in the NHL. On one hand, we have IDR and his beloved New York Rangers. Gotta give them credit, they have been playing far and above what I had expected of them this season. And then there's the Pittsburgh Penguins and LSN80. Riding a very impressive nine game winning streak, none more impressive than their most recent victory earlier today. I would say this guys, enjoy it while you can. Impressive regular season success, but there are a couple of concepts that you both should be more familiar with.

One is momentum. A 9 game winning streak is damn impressive, but can they sustain such momentum so far removed from the playoffs? And a returning Crosby is cause for jubilation, but how will this impact another key concept: chemistry. Personally, I see the Penguins blowing their load early and being distracted by the hoopla of a returning Sid the Kid. Combine this with the likelihood of hosting a tough Flyers team in the first round, then going on the road against an even tougher Rangers team in round two (assuming they make it that far). By the time round three comes around, how much will they have left?

Meanwhile, much of the same applies to the Rangers. Possibly an easy ride through the first round of the playoffs (assuming past ghosts don't reappear), but a very tough second round opponent.

Meanwhile, the Bruins are looking to host the Senators in the first round and the Panthers in the second. By the time round three rolls around, Thomas should just be hitting his full stride. And they should just be heating up at the right time, just like last year, and we all know how that played out.

I maintain the same prediction that I have had all year. A Bruins/Blackhawks final. And a repeat. And I would welcome a wager with either of you on that when the time comes.
 
Me thinks that 12 point lead has dwindled, and it's not to the Bruins! ;) If I were to ask you, honest opinion, as to the whom the best team in the East is right now, would you be a homer and still say the New York Rangers? If we're basing this strictly on points-then that would be entirely valid to say, I suppose. But if we're talking best team- in the here and now, blink and tell me it's not the Pittsburgh Penguins.

With all due respect to Henrik Lundqvist- he's phenomenal- but the best goalie in the NHL right now is Marc Andre Fleury. Even missing two top-4 D-Men in Paul Martin and Kris Letang, the Penguins have given up more then 2 goals in only 2 of their past 13 games. Two thirty goal scorers, two twenty goal scorers, and.....Did I mention Sidney Crosby is scheduled to return very soon, possibly Thursday against the Rangers?

Still feeling great about the Rangers at the top of the Conference? Enjoy it while it lasts. :p

The best team in the Eastern Conference is the New York Rangers. Stats do not lie.

The best team in the Eastern Conference over the last two weeks is the Pittsburgh Penguins.

The best goaltender in the league right now is Henrik Lundqvist. Stats do not lie.

The best goaltender in the league over the last two weeks is Marc Andre Fleury.

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I have no problem giving credit where credit is due. The Penguins are scary, same as they are every single year since 2006-07.

Keep in mind here, as hot as the Pens have been, the Rangers are set to start 7-game home-stand here, starting with the Pens on Thursday, and that 23-7-2 home record (third best in the NHL) should be a major, major factor.
 
Detroit needs Niklas Lidstrom and Pavel Datsyuk back from injury ASAP. They stood on top of the Western Conference when they got hurt, and the Wings have been sliding ever since. They just are not the same team without either player. How can they be?

This always happens to Detroit in the middle of the season, although usually it happens at the beginning of February, not at the end. It's been frustrating.
 
Ahhhh Habs, always one to stir the pot....;)

I really enjoy seeing two of the guys amongst my favorite posters on the forums get so excited about their respective teams in the NHL. On one hand, we have IDR and his beloved New York Rangers. Gotta give them credit, they have been playing far and above what I had expected of them this season.

I thought the Rangers would be a threat- a major one at that- when they signed Brad Richards. He gives them a leadership component that they really were lacking in some ways, as well as being one of the most well-rounded players in the league. Couple that with a young Derek Stepan getting a full season under his belt, and Henrik Lundqvist emerging as the best goalie in the NHL, and this team is incredibly dangerous. I still think they lack the scoring depth to win it all, but their top line rivals any in hockey, especially if Ryan Callahan is healthy for the playoffs.

And then there's the Pittsburgh Penguins and LSN80. Riding a very impressive nine game winning streak, none more impressive than their most recent victory earlier today.

And...which team is it they embarrassed yesterday? :)

One is momentum. A 9 game winning streak is damn impressive, but can they sustain such momentum so far removed from the playoffs?

They're not going to win the rest of their games, they have an incredibly tough stretch that started yesterday against Boston, and gets even more difficult come Thursday and onward, when they play the Rangers, Devils, and Flyers in succession. They don't need to win every game to sustain momentum, just most of them. What in their track record indicates that they can't and won't do exactly that?

And a returning Crosby is cause for jubilation, but how will this impact another key concept: chemistry. Personally, I see the Penguins blowing their load early and being distracted by the hoopla of a returning Sid the Kid.

How will a returning Crosby affect team chemistry? Well, it won't break up their top line, with two thirty goal scorers in Malkin and James Neal, along with Chris Kunitz, that's for sure. Dan Bylsma has come out and said as much. I imagine they'll re-unite him with Pascal Dupuis, with whom he's had great success playing with since 'Duper came over from Atlanta, and a streaking Steve Sullivan. If anything, this will enhance the chemistry of the team, as it will allow the Jordan Staal/Matt Cooke/Tyler Kennedy line to re-unite, which has universally been regarded as the best third line in the league for years.

And then it hit me: I just wasted an entire paragraph on nothing. How can getting the best player in the league back be anything but a good thing for team chemistry, especially a team leader like Crosby?

Combine this with the likelihood of hosting a tough Flyers team in the first round.

Except the possibility of the Penguins grabbing the one seed isn't so far fetched now. 4 points behind the Rangers, with two games remaining against them, so the opportunity to pass them is there. Granted, the Penguins have the most difficult schedule in the league down the stretch- 10 of their 13 remaining games are against playoff teams- with three games against Philadelphia, and two against Jersey and the Rangers respectively.

But that being said, the one seed is within reach. Getting back Crosby, along with a top 4 defensemen in Paul Martin and a premiere one in Kris Letang is only going to make a deep team even deeper. Washington in the first round and the Rangers/Flyers/Devils in the second round is a far less imposing task, and it's within reach. I'm assuming nothing, as it would be Pens/Flyers if the season ended today, but bigger things are within reach.

Meanwhile, the Bruins are looking to host the Senators in the first round and the Panthers in the second.

Speaking of momentum, is saying the Penguins may be peaking too soon a smokescreen for the fact that the Bruins are fading, as in 4-5-1 over their last ten?

As for their first round opponent, isn't that the same Senators team that's beaten them in that ten game losing stretch? I wouldn't bet on the Panthers being their second round opponent, assuming they get past Ottawa. A Flyers/Devils matchup would be far more likely, and far more difficult.

By the time round three rolls around, Thomas should just be hitting his full stride.

Just so we're clear, is this the same Tim Thomas who was splitting time with Tukka Rask before he got injured, and was pulled for NHL analyst.....I mean, back-up goalie Marty Turco yesterday after one period? Just checking. ;)

I maintain the same prediction that I have had all year. A Bruins/Blackhawks final. And a repeat. And I would welcome a wager with either of you on that when the time comes.

You mean playoff time? Or after neither Boston or Chicago makes it past round 2? Heck, I'd bet the 'Hawks are more likely to endure a first round exit then they are to make a Cup run.
I'd be open to a wager myself.

Keep in mind here, as hot as the Pens have been, the Rangers are set to start 7-game home-stand here, starting with the Pens on Thursday, and that 23-7-2 home record (third best in the NHL) should be a major, major factor.

And this is the part that scares me. The other factor, along with the homestand, is the fact that the Rangers have a far easier schedule down the stretch then the Penguins do. Sure, they've got the Pens twice, and the Flyers, Bruins, Red Wings, and Devils down the stretch, but their other 8 games are ones they should win.

It's still advantage Rangers, no doubt, as the homestand, easier schedule, and the 4 point lead tip the scales in their favor. Which makes the showdown at MSG this Thursday the biggest game of the season for both teams.
 
I don't understand all this nonsense about "disrupting chemistry" with regard to Crosby.

Look at the ice time percentage stats over the last three years — Crosby has spent the majority of that time with Dupuis, and Staal has spent hte majority of his with Cooke and Kennedy, so it's pretty logical to me that when Sid returns you leave top line together and go:

Kunitz/Malkin/Neal
Sullivan/Crosby/Dupuis
Cooke/Staal/Kennedy
Whatever

I'm no homer, believe me, that's the most dangerous line-up in the Eastern Conference. Period. Nothing the Rangers, Devils, Bruins, whoever can put out (on paper) matches it.
 
Not sure if there are any vocal Oilers' fans. Unfortunately there don't seem to be all that many hoceky fans on the forum, period, but as an NHL fan first and a Rangers' fan second I'll gladly engage you.

Eberle is a helluva player. The whole Lottery Line, in fact, are everything that is right with the Oilers. For everything that is wrong with them, however, you needn't look any farther than the blue line/net. They're in the same position the Islanders are in — have fantastic, young, electric scorers acquired via drafting/lottery positioning but lack impact defenseman and/or a quality starting goaltender. The Isles' lucked out a bit in claiming Nabokov, but at 35 he's hardly their future.

What makes things so tough for clubs like EDM and the NYI, though, is that they are treated like leper communities to 90% of free agents, or at least 90% of the good ones. Signing guys like Ben Eager and Éric Bélanger is nice and all, but it's hardly an effective way to improve your club long-term.

The Oilers, in particular, I'd imagine are going to be in the market for a serious defender this summer, or should be, if they expect to compete for the playoffs next season.
 
Biron is playing tonight? What, does Lundqvist have something better to do tonight or something? Don't get me wrong, Biron is a very plausible backup goaltender, but come on, this is a pretty huge game, with first place in the division and the conference currently being hotly contested. And a nine game winning streak on the line for the opponents. If there ever was a time to play your number one guy, isn't this it?
 
Biron is playing tonight? What, does Lundqvist have something better to do tonight or something? Don't get me wrong, Biron is a very plausible backup goaltender, but come on, this is a pretty huge game, with first place in the division and the conference currently being hotly contested. And a nine game winning streak on the line for the opponents. If there ever was a time to play your number one guy, isn't this it?

No, Lundqvist is out with the flu. He skated this morning and wanted to play but apparently still looked too sick for Tortorella to give him the OK. There's no way in hell Biron plays this game if Hank were actually healthy, man. Come on. Common sense.

He should be back in net for Saturday, however.
 
No, Lundqvist is out with the flu. There's no way in hell Biron plays this game if Hank were actually healthy, man. Come on. Common sense.

I figured it had to be something like that. Otherwise it made no sense to play your backup in such a big game. Based upon what I've seen tonight, they better hope Lundqvist is healthy come playoff time. Biron is looking very Turco-ish in this game.

I was all ready to trash talk you about this game. Then I checked the score in the Bruins game :(
 
Honestly, with Lundqvist in net tonight the outcome of this game likely looks very, very different. Biron just gave up two very bad goals. That doesn't account for the defensive collapse early in the 2nd that gave the Pens back-to-back goals in a 3:00 span, but with the best goaltender in the league in net on those plays there's no guarantee the puck actually hits the back of the net.

Oh well. Just gotta brush this one off and hope for a bounce back game against the Avs on Saturday night. Ultimately we're still four-points up.

I'm not making excuses because when players are out, others must step up—that's what makes a team a team—but when you're missing your captain, a top 4 defenseman and the eventual Vezina winner, it's not that easy to win.
 
What a conundrum. The Senators are playing the Canadiens tonight. If Ottawa wins, they overtake my Bruins in the standings by one point (even though Boston will still have two games in hand). But I am physically unable to cheer for Montreal, not even for one game. Unfortunately, I have no option but to hope Ottawa wins and overtakes the Bruins. I guess that would still be OK, any lead that Ottawa gains over Boston should be short-lived.
 
I agree bout the Oilers, I honestly can't wait for the next season, I think that's the year we make it to the playoffs and give some teams a run for their money, I see potential in them they just need to learn how to use it
 
And the Penguins 11 game winning streak is no more.

I'm not one to whine about officiating- especially since Ilya Bryzgalof is the largest reason the Flyers won- but the officiating in the Penguins/Flyers game in the 3rd period was incredibly lopsided. Still, as a team, you have to be able to adapt to the hand that's given you, and the Penguins couldn't kill off a penalty that shouldn't have been.

However, if you told me the Penguins would be in a position with eleven games to go being one point behind the Rangers and a game left between the two-In Pittsburgh at that- I'd have been a happy camper. Couple that with the expectation that Crosby will only improve and some of those near misses will wind up in the back of nets as he re-acclimates himself, and I'm pretty content with where the Penguins sit. With 4 of the next 5 at home and 5 of the next 7 against non-playoff teams, the Penguins have a real chance to overtake the Rangers and hold off the Flyers for the top spot in the conference.

I'll make no guarantees, there's alot of hockey to be played and I expect the Rangers and Flyers to turn it on as well as we head down the home stretch. Though it's depressing the way the streak ended-and against who- it's a nice feeling to see the Penguins where they are at this point of the season, with a healthy lineup as well.
 
Haven't been following the Pens so much but what could be more amazing is that they could very well overtaker the Rangers as the #1 in the East by the end of the Regular Season. And perfect timing too with Crosby back.

If I recall EA did a simulation and predicted it will be the Pens vs. Hawks this year with the Pens coming out on top. They got it almost right last year too with the Canucks and the Bruins in the finals with the Canucks winning game 7.

Regardless at the final stretch its depressing seeing the Canucks slump with 4-4-2 in the last 10 games. I really hope they turn it around they have not been playing great blowing leads left and right (which is so un-Canucks like). They need to focus or they might become the Flyers of the season. Great mid season record but slumping through the end and getting demolished in the 2nd round.

Anyways Go Nucks Go!!! :)
 
And the Penguins 11 game winning streak is no more.

I'm not one to whine about officiating- especially since Ilya Bryzgalof is the largest reason the Flyers won- but the officiating in the Penguins/Flyers game in the 3rd period was incredibly lopsided. Still, as a team, you have to be able to adapt to the hand that's given you, and the Penguins couldn't kill off a penalty that shouldn't have been.

However, if you told me the Penguins would be in a position with eleven games to go being one point behind the Rangers and a game left between the two-In Pittsburgh at that- I'd have been a happy camper. Couple that with the expectation that Crosby will only improve and some of those near misses will wind up in the back of nets as he re-acclimates himself, and I'm pretty content with where the Penguins sit. With 4 of the next 5 at home and 5 of the next 7 against non-playoff teams, the Penguins have a real chance to overtake the Rangers and hold off the Flyers for the top spot in the conference.

I'll make no guarantees, there's alot of hockey to be played and I expect the Rangers and Flyers to turn it on as well as we head down the home stretch. Though it's depressing the way the streak ended-and against who- it's a nice feeling to see the Penguins where they are at this point of the season, with a healthy lineup as well.

The fan of the club who gets more officiating breaks than any other club in the NHL due to who the captain of the club is complaining about officiating being a factor in a game his club happened to lose? Oh, the irony! Oh the hilarity! :lmao:

I'll admit this much — there are only two clubs in the Eastern Conference that "scare" me as a Rangers' fan as a potential playoff match-up, and one of those clubs is the Penguins. Not only will officiating be a factor (in your favor), but fact is the Penguins, as I said a week ago or so, are the best team in the NHL right now, and its not even a close race. They are light years better than any other team. They are, however, riding a hot streak, and as we all know — what goes up...

Who's the other club? The New Jersey Devils. Too much going right in both towns right now that could easily spell disaster for the Rangers in the opening round IMO.
 
The fan of the club who gets more officiating breaks than any other club in the NHL due to who the captain of the club is complaining about officiating being a factor in a game his club happened to lose? Oh, the irony! Oh the hilarity! :lmao:

I'll admit this much — there are only two clubs in the Eastern Conference that "scare" me as a Rangers' fan as a potential playoff match-up, and one of those clubs is the Penguins. Not only will officiating be a factor (in your favor), but fact is the Penguins, as I said a week ago or so, are the best team in the NHL right now, and its not even a close race. They are light years better than any other team. They are, however, riding a hot streak, and as we all know — what goes up...

Who's the other club? The New Jersey Devils. Too much going right in both towns right now that could easily spell disaster for the Rangers in the opening round IMO.

I'm a little surprised that you aren't a little more concerned about the Philadelphia Flyers. Especially when it is a distinct possibility that they could have home ice advantage in the #4 versus #5 first round of the Eastern Conference playoffs.

Obviously, the Penguins are worrisome. They have a great team, they seem to be peaking at the right time, and with a little more time for Crosby to shake off the rust, they may only be getting better.

Maybe I'm underestimating the Devils, but they don't cause me too much concern.
 
I'm a little surprised that you aren't a little more concerned about the Philadelphia Flyers. Especially when it is a distinct possibility that they could have home ice advantage in the #4 versus #5 first round of the Eastern Conference playoffs.

Obviously, the Penguins are worrisome. They have a great team, they seem to be peaking at the right time, and with a little more time for Crosby to shake off the rust, they may only be getting better.

Maybe I'm underestimating the Devils, but they don't cause me too much concern.

Why would I? The Rangers have wiped the floor with the Flyers all season. We've scored a combined 19 goals against them in five games with one more match left to play this season.

Not to jinx us (knocking on wood), but there's a reason the chant of "YOU CAN'T BEAT US!" went up from the Garden at the end of the last game we played against them.

The Penguins and Devils both employ high-octane offensive systems that the Rangers' club struggles to compete against with due to a general lack of foot speed.

In fact, all season the three teams they've struggled with most are all quick-strike, fleet of foot clubs that tilt the ice in their favor offensively — the Leafs, Pens and Devils.
 
I wouldn't be shocked to see the Rangers get knocked out in the first round. 8 seeds typically come in with a lot of momentum, & have been in playoff mode for the previous few weeks leading into the post season.

Right now I'm leaning toward a Chi/Pit Stanley Cup prediction. Pens are obviously the hottest team in the league right now, & are turning it on at the right point of the season, if they can keep up this kind of momentum they're going to be pretty tough for anyone to beat. Chicago is just a tough team that seems built for the playoffs, & like the Pens they're getting hot at the right time, they're 7-2-1 in their last 10 & are currently riding a 3 game winning streak.

Sadly I do not see my Wings fairing well this year, right now I'm guessing they'll be knocked out pretty quick, like first round pretty quick.
 

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