2012 Debater's League: Smack Talk and General Discussion Thread

[CH David]

I don't know what happened between D-Man and tdigle but there is no chance that Savage Taker is biased towards anyone in this tournament, let alone me, or has a grudge against Killjoy. He merely judged on what he read and he found my arguements better. There is nothing else to it. I daresay, I found his judging better not only because of the points he awarded me but because he saw through the rumor that KJ tried to pass off as proof in the debate. It worked on CH but ST saw through it.

Wasn't the only one to "work" on me, there champ. Him being unhappy isn't the only reason to look for like you were trying to present.

 

[Coco]

I just skimmed the Stormtrooper-Pancake debate. Both of you are embarrassments to Rob Van Dam-related discussion. That is all.

 

[nightmare]

You're a whiny cunt. I didn't compare Morgan to The Rock, I used him as an example.

Im an Aries. Very passionate in defending my arguments and I stated my opinion regarding the situation. You wont be so lucky next time we meet.



I now await my next opponent. You will go down faster than a Thai hooker.

 

[Hulk Hogan's Brother]

Wasn't the only one to "work" on me, there champ. Him being unhappy isn't the only reason to look for like you were trying to present.

That isn't the only reason I presented though it was a huge reason as it would prevent him from benefitting from whatever WWE offers him. I also showed how not buying into the WWE system would hurt him. I also brought up the tight schedule which Killjoy was unable to prove by reasoning or by proof. The latter because he had none.

In fact, and please do not take any offense on this, but thought that pointing out the benefits did nothing for Killjoy. Like I mentioned in another post, this is not EWR and Killjoy was not able to convince anyone that Kurt would actually accept what WWE offers him. And what happens if he does not resents WWE's moves? That will undoubtedly hurt him. Debates are about convincing, not pointing things out and I do not think that he was able to convince me. I would be very interested in knowing how he convinced you that Kurt Angle would benefit from the WWE. Everybody knows WWE has benefits but the question is how Kurt would benefit from them.

I would also like to know what kind of arguements D-Man was looking for, for anyone arguing against a superstar jumping from TNA to WWE. I mean, D, must have thought that this was an even topic. That is why he put it up for debate. So I am interested in knowing how he would have himself argued from this side.

 

[Coco]

I would also like to know what kind of arguements D-Man was looking for

Convincing ones. Duh.

 

[CH David]

That isn't the only reason I presented though it was a huge reason as it would prevent him from benefitting from whatever WWE offers him. I also showed how not buying into the WWE system would hurt him. I also brought up the tight schedule which Killjoy was unable to prove by reasoning or by proof. The latter because he had none.

I believe the link to a Nick Paglino post about him getting the HBK schedule treatment was sufficient enough. FunKay and I agreed. ST happened not to, and that's his perogative.

In fact, and please do not take any offense on this, but thought that pointing out the benefits did nothing for Killjoy. Like I mentioned in another post, this is not EWR and Killjoy was not able to convince anyone that Kurt would actually accept what WWE offers him. And what happens if he does not resents WWE's moves? That will undoubtedly hurt him. Debates are about convincing, not pointing things out and I do not think that he was able to convince me.

I guess it's a good thing he wasn't trying to convince you. You got ST on your side, and FunKay and I went with Killjoy. As far as convincing anyone that he would accept an offer, that means shit to me. It's not about if he would accept, it's about him accepting and going back. It certainly benefits him to go back, a bigger audience, bigger checks. Plus now he could benefit from a lighter schedule, focus on his health, and be even better, though under the watchful eye of the 'E when it comes to alcohol and prescription drugs.

I would be very interested in knowing how he convinced you that Kurt Angle would benefit from the WWE. Everybody knows WWE has benefits but the question is how Kurt would benefit from them.

Bigger paycheck both from contracts, video games, and big PPVs, a lighter WWE schedule, and better healthcare, which I will include rehab with.

That's beneficial there.

I would also like to know what kind of arguements D-Man was looking for, for anyone arguing against a superstar jumping from TNA to WWE. I mean, D, must have thought that this was an even topic. That is why he put it up for debate. So I am interested in knowing how he would have himself argued from this side.

Well it's your lucky day. He's the fourth judge so you'll find out.

 

[CH David]

Lastly I'm done bitching about this stuff. It's a judges place to judge. You just go about your job, come in here and say you got shit done.

I disagree with ST coming here and talking about being harsh and shit, just because nobody really gives a fuck if you're harsh or not. If they have a problem, they can take it up with D, PM you, or bitch about it in here.

 

[Hulk Hogan's Brother]

I believe the link to a Nick Paglino post about him getting the HBK schedule treatment was sufficient enough. FunKay and I agreed. ST happened not to, and that's his perogative.

It's your opinion and your judgement man. I hold nothing against you but I just do not buy the man as a credible source. It could very well have been cooked up. I guess my early conclusion hurt me a bit here as had I not concluded I would have been able to provide links of some of Paglino's ridiculous stories. My fault, I guess. Also would have pointed out again that Kurt's problems make him less of a model employee than Shawn.

I guess it's a good thing he wasn't trying to convince you. You got ST on your side, and FunKay and I went with Killjoy. As far as convincing anyone that he would accept an offer, that means shit to me. It's not about if he would accept, it's about him accepting and going back. It certainly benefits him to go back, a bigger audience, bigger checks. Plus now he could benefit from a lighter schedule, focus on his health, and be even better, though under the watchful eye of the 'E when it comes to alcohol and prescription drugs.

Sorry man, nothing against you but that is just how you interpreted it. I interpreted it as Kurt Angle, the man that he is today, going back to WWE under the circumstances that prevail today. The character of Kurt Angle is very important to this debate, in my opinion.

Well it's your lucky day. He's the fourth judge so you'll find out.

Yeah, I am not expecting much of a judgement in my favor really here knowing D but then, as he says, expect the unexpected.

Not to imply that he would be biased towards his mentee, but it would be very hard to convince him against WWE knowing how much he hates TNA.

 

[¡Roján!]

Im an Aries. Very passionate in defending my arguments and I stated my opinion regarding the situation. You wont be so lucky next time we meet.

You know, you come on here whining about how you hate Matt Morgan in JGlass
thread, well guess what? So do I. I couldn't care lelss about the fella. I barely watch TNA. Yet, I argued my stance as if Matt Morgan were god, and it worked. Like a famous philosopher once said: ''It's not about hat you choose, it's about how well you choose to defend it.'' Or something like that...

 

[nightmare]

I fail to see how what I said was 'whining'...


I made a statement about not really liking the guy. I didnt throw a bitch fit about having to talk about him, nor did I ask to have a different topic and say it was unfair. That would be whining. All of us this round on the side against a jump had an uphill battle. I tried to point out the best points I thought were relevant. It didnt work in my favor, I stated my peace and its done.


I wasnt even talking to you in the first place. So dont start a pissing contest or attempt a flame war by calling me a whiny cunt. You will lose. This isnt the Bar Room, so watch your tone boy.


You won the round in the debate. I stated my points, had my say and im moving on. You lucked out in the first round with Awesome Miz, and bested me this round. Congrats.

Next time wont have the same outcome. Im still in this and dont plan on losing again.

 

[DirtyJosé]

Not to imply that he would be biased towards his mentee, but it would be very hard to convince him against WWE knowing how much he hates TNA.

LOL, anything if it means not facing up to the fact that Killjoy mopped the floor with you, eh?

 

[Poop Master Flex]

Hey Talon, are you alive?

 

[¡Roján!]

Next time wont have the same outcome. Im still in this and dont plan on losing again.

Good luck with that. You'll be facing Hatehabs if all goes to plan. He's my mentee, so in you're in for a treat.

And, I wasn't trying to start a flame war, I was just venting my frustrations at your spacing. Sometimes you leave two lines, sometimes one. Bugs me.

 

[Hulk Hogan's Brother]

LOL, anything if it means not facing up to the fact that Killjoy mopped the floor with you, eh?

Mopped the floor, eh? An 8-7 judgement till now would imply that it was a close debate. Then again, maybe you and that tool JGlass who said that Killjoy had won this decisively have a different definition for those expressions.

You guys are just raising KJ's expectations. Let's hope he won't be shattered if he loses.

 

[hatehabsforever]

Good luck with that. You'll be facing Hatehabs if all goes to plan. He's my mentee, so in you're in for a treat.

Oh silly Rohan, still getting the terms "mentor" and "mentee" backwards!

Thanks for the vote of confidence, but I don't know if I've made it past Paralyzer Z, dude did a good job in my opinion. Plus, if I'm reading the bracket correctly, I think my next opponent would be Pancake, if I'm fortunate enough to advance another round.

Congrats on another great round, hope to see you down the road.

 

[ABMorales787]

Mopped the floor, eh? An 8-7 judgement till now would imply that it was a close debate. Then again, maybe you and that tool JGlass who said that Killjoy had won this decisively have a different definition for those expressions.

You guys are just raising KJ's expectations. Let's hope he won't be shattered if he loses.

You know, just because a judge saw things your way doesn't mean I didn't walk all over you on the bantering floor. If I win, notice not even outside sources could help you and if you win by miracle, note two things. 1, I'll win the loser's bracket, you won't make it past the next round. 2, I'm still superior. I never needed to lean back on another man's opinion to do my talking.

 

[¡Roján!]

I truly hope Killjoy advances to face me. Not because he's an easier about to beat or anything like that, I just don't want to have to face paragraph after paragraph of Rattlesnake's one dimensional writing style. He'd end up winning via suicide of opponent.

 

[¡Roján!]

Congrats on another great round, hope to see you down the road.

Likewise, mentor.

Oh dang it, I messed up the mentor, mentee thing again.

 

[Awesome_Miz]

Hey Talon, are you alive?

I just saw him post in the WZCW Discussion Thread.

 

[nightmare]

Good luck with that. You'll be facing Hatehabs if all goes to plan. He's my mentee, so in you're in for a treat.

And, I wasn't trying to start a flame war, I was just venting my frustrations at your spacing. Sometimes you leave two lines, sometimes one. Bugs me.

I welcome any challenge.


As far as spacing goes, I have a method to the madness, but transferring it from Word to WZ sometimes jacks with it.

Note to participants: Proof-read your debates. Spell check and go back over your points. There have been a few times I have to double-take posts because they dont make sense due to errors in spelling\grammar\sentence structure. Im sure the judges agree. Its hard to reply when it is difficult to decipher your point.


-Rohan, Im gonna call a truce. I have always thought you were a good guy and I dont want to let frustration on either side change that. This is all suppost to be serious, but fun. We cool?


Side note: Isnt it ironic that in my first debate making more money worked in my favor yet that was part of my downfall in this round?

 

[Paralyzer Z]

Hey Talon, are you alive?

Refer to him by his proper name: Dragon Saga's bitch, and he shall rise from the shadows.

 

[D-Man]

I don't know what happened between D-Man and tdigle but there is no chance that Savage Taker is biased towards anyone in this tournament, let alone me, or has a grudge against Killjoy. He merely judged on what he read and he found my arguements better. There is nothing else to it. I daresay, I found his judging better not only because of the points he awarded me but because he saw through the rumor that KJ tried to pass off as proof in the debate. It worked on CH but ST saw through it.

Last I checked, SavageTaker had a mind of his own.. and an intelligent one, at that. I don't think he needs your hand up his ass in order to act like a puppeteer and speak for him. So cut it out.

And I never said tdigle had a grudge against me or anything. I merely said that he just so happened to judge my 2009 debates completely different than the other judges. But you all missed my point...

Because I was judged differently, instead of bitching and moaning about it, I just used it as fuel to improve. I did NOT go around crying about it.

That isn't the only reason I presented though it was a huge reason as it would prevent him from benefitting from whatever WWE offers him. I also showed how not buying into the WWE system would hurt him. I also brought up the tight schedule which Killjoy was unable to prove by reasoning or by proof. The latter because he had none.

In fact, and please do not take any offense on this, but thought that pointing out the benefits did nothing for Killjoy. Like I mentioned in another post, this is not EWR and Killjoy was not able to convince anyone that Kurt would actually accept what WWE offers him. And what happens if he does not resents WWE's moves? That will undoubtedly hurt him. Debates are about convincing, not pointing things out and I do not think that he was able to convince me. I would be very interested in knowing how he convinced you that Kurt Angle would benefit from the WWE. Everybody knows WWE has benefits but the question is how Kurt would benefit from them.

I would also like to know what kind of arguements D-Man was looking for, for anyone arguing against a superstar jumping from TNA to WWE. I mean, D, must have thought that this was an even topic. That is why he put it up for debate. So I am interested in knowing how he would have himself argued from this side.

Now, what part of:

This is the last time that I'm going to say this... LEAVE YOUR DEBATING IN THE THREAD. The judges are intelligent, experienced, and seasoned enough to make their own decisions.

Stop trying to sway the judges by posting that shit in here.

...don't you understand??

I get the fact that Killjoy didn't like the scoring that was given to him. But he came into this thread and addressed the judges... NOT YOU, RATTLESNAKE. I told you that I would not tolerate you bringing any more of the debate into this thread and you did it anyway. Therefore, I'm infracting you for spamming the thread. If you pull this again, you're kicked out of the tournament. THIS GOES FOR EVERYONE.

If you have an issue with judging, then you PM me or Dagger about it. You do not use this thread as a platform to incessantly bitch because you're ********* over a judgment. I brought these guys on for a reason; they have different views and are very competent posters on the forum. They know what the fuck they're doing. But I can understand how many of you might not agree with their judgment. That's just too bad... they're the judges and they have opinions.

Luckily for Killjoy and Rattlesnake, I am going to be the final judge in their debate. They only have a one-point difference between them right now and I'd be happy to be the deciding vote. Now, if Killjoy or Rattesnake don't like how I judge it, I dare you to try and bitch me out. It's your funeral.

Now, can we get back to having fun again please?? I'm through with babysitting.

 

[SavageTaker]

Well, that was an interesting read. I'm back from work now so I'm going to start judging the final two debates. I think I'm going to leave Mitch vs. DJ for last though.

 

[SavageTaker]

Well, that was an interesting read. I'm back from work now so I'm going to start judging the final two debates. I think I'm going to leave Mitch vs. DJ for last though.

Correction: Once I figure something out regarding work and make a few phone calls then I'll start reading and judging.

 

[SavageTaker]

Well, it looks like there's another debate you won't need to judge D-Man.