2008-09 NFL Thread

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Nah I won't gloat my head off Coolhayek....


Too much.

Ahhh, the sweet smell of being correct. I knew the Pats would hand the Steelers an asskicking and bring Pittsburgh back to reality. The Steelers are so overrated its ridiculious at this point, people talking about them being better then the Colts---are you kidding me?! Not even close. What Anthony Smith said was even more stupid---you're a third string safety whos been in the league for all of about 30 minutes, who the hell are you to judge anything? Just keep your mouth shut and play, you can start to talk once you've proven yourself a capable player.

And man was Smith burned last night, he just got absolutely lit up with two 50+ yard TDs. How about that lateral-trick play huh? That was pretty creative as well, taking a page out of the Steelers book.

Alot of close finishes this week---I absolutely did not expect San Diego to win when I shut off that game with the Titans up 14 and about 9 minutes left to play. Rivers looked dreadful, and is showing himself week in and week out just how overrated I think he is.

And boy did the Colts hand it to the Ravens and the Broncos handed it to the Chiefs.

Oh yeah...and the Patriots absolutely destroyed the Steelers. Hows it feel Brian, eh? You being so confident for the past month that the Steelers would beat the Pats, giving reason after reason after reason...when in reality Pittsburgh was just toyed with. Santonio Holmes is overrated, as is Hines Ward & Big Ben, but that argument if for another day.

Now excuse me as I gloat about this win and the fact that I've been saying the Pats would go undefeated since Week 1.

 

[BooCocky]

Oh yeah...and the Patriots absolutely destroyed the Steelers. Hows it feel Brian, eh? You being so confident for the past month that the Steelers would beat the Pats, giving reason after reason after reason...when in reality Pittsburgh was just toyed with.

Horrible game plan, went away from what got them within 4 pts going into halftime. They wouldn't blitz nor would they run the football enough, yes they did gather yds but never ran enough too control the game like Pittsburgh usually does.

Santonio Holmes is overrated,

He has been in the NFL for not even two years, and he was hobbled by injury, it was fairly easy too see he wasn't 100% after his first catch, he got up grabbed the leg and went off to the side lines.

as is Hines Ward

Now this right here is the most absurd comment i have ever read before in my life, Hines Ward is one of the most underrated players in football, he doesn't have blazing speed, but the guy catches everything thrown his way, he has 8600+ career receiving yds, he is catching in on every single one of Pittsburghs receiving record, and this isn't bad for a guy that was suppose too be a Special teams player for life. Ward is a big time player with 57 or 58, 758 receing yds and 8 td's in the post season and is a super bowl mvp, and he is the best blocking receiver in the nfl, yeah Hines Ward is so overrated. The man is good at everything he does, and is a HOF, and you know not every average Joe goes to the HOF

Big Ben

Lawlz, he has lost 16 games in his career as a starter, yeah gosh Ben is vastly overrated. See overrated is Vince Young not Ben Roethlisberger.



Now for the other games, nothing IMO was too big of a shocker besides the blowout Denver win, I thought the Chiefs would give them a better fight, and i totally expected the Colts too blow out the Ravens for the simple fact is how the Ravens finished the game off against the Pats, they have no discipline

 

[RBH]

Nah I won't gloat my head off Coolhayek....


Too much.

Ahhh, the sweet smell of being correct. I knew the Pats would hand the Steelers an asskicking and bring Pittsburgh back to reality. The Steelers are so overrated its ridiculious at this point, people talking about them being better then the Colts---are you kidding me?! Not even close. What Anthony Smith said was even more stupid---you're a third string safety whos been in the league for all of about 30 minutes, who the hell are you to judge anything? Just keep your mouth shut and play, you can start to talk once you've proven yourself a capable player.

And man was Smith burned last night, he just got absolutely lit up with two 50+ yard TDs. How about that lateral-trick play huh? That was pretty creative as well, taking a page out of the Steelers book.

Alot of close finishes this week---I absolutely did not expect San Diego to win when I shut off that game with the Titans up 14 and about 9 minutes left to play. Rivers looked dreadful, and is showing himself week in and week out just how overrated I think he is.

And boy did the Colts hand it to the Ravens and the Broncos handed it to the Chiefs.

Oh yeah...and the Patriots absolutely destroyed the Steelers. Hows it feel Brian, eh? You being so confident for the past month that the Steelers would beat the Pats, giving reason after reason after reason...when in reality Pittsburgh was just toyed with. Santonio Holmes is overrated, as is Hines Ward & Big Ben, but that argument if for another day.

Now excuse me as I gloat about this win and the fact that I've been saying the Pats would go undefeated since Week 1.

U remember my prediction a few weeks ago...the Pats will win every game and then choke in the Super Bowl? Not saying that will happen but it would be very funny for a lot of people to see, simply because I dont want any team touching the 5 super bowl win rceords held by the Niners, Cowboys and Steelers.

The team with the best chance to beat New England IMO is Green bay. Yes they lost to Dallas who also lost to New England but Green Bay was without a few key defensive players that would have definately helped against the Cowboys passing attack. The Colts are the only AFC team that can threaten the Pats as long as Marvin Harrison is healthy.

But did you guys notice a trend? Randy Moss scores, Pats win by blowout....Randy Moss doesnt catch anything, Pats are very close to losing...see a pattern? Cover Randy Moss and you got a hellava better chance of beating the Patriots....as the Colts were doing for 3 1/2 quarters until Moss got loose...Moss it seems is the catalyst that makes the Pats go!

 

[X]

I'm sorry but all three of those guys are overrated Brian. Being overrated however doesn't mean that you aren't a good player or a future HOF'er. I have no doubts that Hines Ward is a HOFer and a fantastic player, but he's overrated. You do understand the term overrated, correct? He is rated higher then he really is. People consider him a top 5, top 10 reciever, and I just don't think thats true at all. The great thing about Hines Ward is how good he is at everything else besides catching the ball, thats what makes him so versatile and such a great player. But he's definately not the guy that is seen as a huge threat and has an X on his back, like guys like Randy Moss, Terrell Owens, Chad Johnson, and Steve Smith.

Santonio Holmes is also overrated. I didn't say anything about his age or his experience did I? I said he was overrated. Good player, yes, but not the amazing WR that people make him out to be. At best he's the 2nd string WR.

And we've been over Big Ben twenty million times. Big Ben could massacre a bus full of children and you'd say he's an upstanding guy. So it really doesn't make any sense to get into this argument again. But Big Ben = Overrated. I can think of many a QB I'd rather have right now, Tom Brady, Peyton Manning, Tony Romo, Brett Favre, these are all better QBs and guys I'd rather have on my team. You can even throw in Carson Palmer, Drew Brees and Derek Anderson into the mix. All have more skills IMO, some just don't have as good a supporting cast/team that Ben does. If Ben was the QB of the Dolphins, they'd still be winless. Whats that say?

Anyways, wow was last nights game a snoozefest. I can't believe all those Falcons players supporting Michael Vick. HE'S A FUCKING DOG MURDERER! WHAT THE HELL IS WRONG WITH YOU ATLANTA?! Those bastards should all be fined big time, and if they aren't, I'm going to be pissed. You fine TO for acting like he's holding a video camera, so you god damn better will fine football players vocally supporting a convicted dog murderer.

 

[BooCocky]

I'm sorry but all three of those guys are overrated Brian. Being overrated however doesn't mean that you aren't a good player or a future HOF'er. I have no doubts that Hines Ward is a HOFer and a fantastic player, but he's overrated. You do understand the term overrated, correct? He is rated higher then he really is. People consider him a top 5, top 10 reciever, and I just don't think thats true at all.

I want you too prove too me how you dont think, i want you too prove too me that he is overrated?

The great thing about Hines Ward is how good he is at everything else besides catching the ball, thats what makes him so versatile and such a great player.

Lawlz, this is ridiculous, Ok, if Hines Ward is not a versatile receiver, how come for the majority of his games he finds ways too get open? He is a top ten receiver in the league, he does everything, blocks, good route runner, catches everything thrown his way, makes plays when he needs too. Hines Ward is possibly the most underrated receiver in professional football, and their is probably not a team in the NFL that wouldn't want him on their team, he leads by example

But he's definately not the guy that is seen as a huge threat and has an X on his back, like guys like Randy Moss, Terrell Owens, Chad Johnson, and Steve Smith.

But he still puts up solid numbers? You don't get any where close too a 1000 yd receiving year if you aren't a threat.

Santonio Holmes is also overrated. I didn't say anything about his age or his experience did I? I said he was overrated.

He is a playmaker, on a running team, you put the ball in his hands, and he the capability of scoring every time he touches the ball, he is that quick.

Good player, yes, but not the amazing WR that people make him out to be. At best he's the 2nd string WR.

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He's the second string receiver because of that so overrated guy Hines Ward

And we've been over Big Ben twenty million times. Big Ben could massacre a bus full of children and you'd say he's an upstanding guy. So it really doesn't make any sense to get into this argument again.

He's a giver

But Big Ben = Overrated.

Tony Romo = Overrated, Derek Anderson = overrated, Jon Kitna = Overrated

Drew Brees

Yeah because he is so great at winning

If Ben was the QB of the Dolphins, they'd still be winless. Whats that say?

you could say the same if you plugged in Favre,Manning, Romo, and every other QB in the NFL, the Miami dolphins are pathetic, and Jason Taylor isn't seen as a huge threat on defense like he once was.

Lol you are funny. Are you aware that both of these men have more fantasy points (which are based off of stats) than your "Godly" Big Ben? Just a simple fact I think that should be pointed out to you.

Both Anderson and Romo throw the ball a lot more, have you looked at there passing attempts? Ben has 352 pass attempts, Romo has 426, and Anderson has has 435, Anderson has 83 more passing attempts and Romo has 74 more passing attempts.

 

[RBH]

I'm sorry but all three of those guys are overrated Brian. Being overrated however doesn't mean that you aren't a good player or a future HOF'er. I have no doubts that Hines Ward is a HOFer and a fantastic player, but he's overrated. You do understand the term overrated, correct? He is rated higher then he really is. People consider him a top 5, top 10 reciever, and I just don't think thats true at all. The great thing about Hines Ward is how good he is at everything else besides catching the ball, thats what makes him so versatile and such a great player. But he's definately not the guy that is seen as a huge threat and has an X on his back, like guys like Randy Moss, Terrell Owens, Chad Johnson, and Steve Smith.

Santonio Holmes is also overrated. I didn't say anything about his age or his experience did I? I said he was overrated. Good player, yes, but not the amazing WR that people make him out to be. At best he's the 2nd string WR.

And we've been over Big Ben twenty million times. Big Ben could massacre a bus full of children and you'd say he's an upstanding guy. So it really doesn't make any sense to get into this argument again. But Big Ben = Overrated. I can think of many a QB I'd rather have right now, Tom Brady, Peyton Manning, Tony Romo, Brett Favre, these are all better QBs and guys I'd rather have on my team. You can even throw in Carson Palmer, Drew Brees and Derek Anderson into the mix. All have more skills IMO, some just don't have as good a supporting cast/team that Ben does. If Ben was the QB of the Dolphins, they'd still be winless. Whats that say?

Anyways, wow was last nights game a snoozefest. I can't believe all those Falcons players supporting Michael Vick. HE'S A FUCKING DOG MURDERER! WHAT THE HELL IS WRONG WITH YOU ATLANTA?! Those bastards should all be fined big time, and if they aren't, I'm going to be pissed. You fine TO for acting like he's holding a video camera, so you god damn better will fine football players vocally supporting a convicted dog murderer.

Haha Michael Vick....I want to say good job to your team for having such a great season so far....it is something not many others have experienced recently.....but I got a question for you...and it relates to my Niners...Okay we all know the 49ers suck for the last 5 years or so and had 2 good years in a 10 year span since Steve Young left.

My question was that if you were the owner of the 49ers, what would you do to improve the team (no sarcastic remarks, I want a dignified answer and I know ur a smart football fan)...who would you keep (inlcuding coaches and players) and who would you get rid of and who would u try and sign....

I would fire Mike Nolan. He has had 4 years to try and prove that he has not had a single winning season...I like the guy but he is not getting the job done...I would not resign Trent Dilfer and instead sign Byron Leftwich as backup (he is backup in my Madden Game). I would get Gore a running back to share the load with him. I would hire an assistant to the offensive coordinator and my new head coach would be someone with head coaching experience (or some sort of experience). I would add a quality wide reciever and a better offensive line. I would add some key components to the defense...mainly the strong safety position and I would probably get rid of Walt Harris. What would you do if you were John York?

 

[Check Yo Rollies]

Tony Romo = Overrated, Derek Anderson = overrated

Lol you are funny. Are you aware that both of these men have more fantasy points (which are based off of stats) than your "Godly" Big Ben? Just a simple fact I think that should be pointed out to you.

 

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I want you too prove too me how you dont think, i want you too prove too me that he is overrated?

Lawlz, this is ridiculous, Ok, if Hines Ward is not a versatile receiver, how come for the majority of his games he finds ways too get open? He is a top ten receiver in the league, he does everything, blocks, good route runner, catches everything thrown his way, makes plays when he needs too. Hines Ward is possibly the most underrated receiver in professional football, and their is probably not a team in the NFL that wouldn't want him on their team, he leads by example


But he still puts up solid numbers? You don't get any where close too a 1000 yd receiving year if you aren't a threat.



He is a playmaker, on a running team, you put the ball in his hands, and he the capability of scoring every time he touches the ball, he is that quick.
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He's the second string receiver because of that so overrated guy Hines Ward


He's a giver

Tony Romo = Overrated, Derek Anderson = overrated, Jon Kitna = Overrated

Yeah because he is so great at winning

you could say the same if you plugged in Favre,Manning, Romo, and every other QB in the NFL, the Miami dolphins are pathetic, and Jason Taylor isn't seen as a huge threat on defense like he once was.



Both Anderson and Romo throw the ball a lot more, have you looked at there passing attempts? Ben has 352 pass attempts, Romo has 426, and Anderson has has 435, Anderson has 83 more passing attempts and Romo has 74 more passing attempts.

As usual you have completely misunderstood more then half of the things I said and the reasons I gave for them.

You can't "prove" someone is overrated. Thats like "proving" someone is attractive, its subjective. Its my opinion that he's overrated, severely so. The only reason he tallies up 1000 yards in a season is because he's the go-to-guy and has been for years now. I didn't say he wasn't a great reciever. Just that he isn't a top ten WR in my opinion, and never has been. He doesn't have that speed, or that height, or that hands advantage that top WRs like Moss & Owens do.

Next you apparently completely misread what I wrote, because you're arguing that Hines Ward is versatile, and thats exactly what I said. I said Hines Ward is one of the most versatile players in football because of his other skills BESIDES catching the ball. Do you even bother to read what I write anymore?

Next you say Santonio Holmes has the chance to score every time he puts his hands on the ball. Fucking RIDICULIOUS. Are you serious here? Just no, thats one of the stupidest things I've ever heard. Go tell them to hand Holmes the ball on every play of the entire game, and I'm willing to bet he wouldn't score once. Why? Because he's a WR with speed. And thats it. Thats all he has is his speed. He's not a very good ball handler, and he certainly doesn't require opponents to write up a game plan for him. He's overrated.

Now, once again, I'm going to go over with you what the term "overrated" means. You remember right? When someone is rated at a higher level then they should be? Considering thats the definition, care explaining how Derek Anderson is overrated when probably 50% of football fans don't even know who he is, or what team he plays on? Anderson came into this season as a joke, no one expected anything better then a very mediocre season. He has surpassed those expectations and RATINGS tenfold and has put the Browns in a spot to go to the playoffs this year when no one was even dreaming of that. If anything, by definition, Derek Anderson is underrated. Very underrated.

Now Tony Romo you say is overrated...yeah those 35 TDs sure look pretty overrated to me, I'd much rather have the 20-something TDs that Big Ben has put up. Tony Romo is the second best QB in the league RIGHT NOW. You can't deny that; wanna know why you can't deny it? STATS. STATS = SCIENTIFIC FACTS. It's a scientific fact that Tony Romo is having a better year then any other QB besides Tom Brady. Considering Romo came into this season with everyone having marginal hopes at best for him, once again, I'd say by definition, he'd be underrated.

And Jon Kitna? Who the hell said anything about Jon Kitna? He's average, nothing more, nothing less. Good arm, bad decisions.

Please, for the love of GOD Brian, learn what the word "overrated" means. Seriously, its not that hard.

 

[BooCocky]

You can't "prove" someone is overrated. Thats like "proving" someone is attractive, its subjective. Its my opinion that he's overrated, severely so. The only reason he tallies up 1000 yards in a season is because he's the go-to-guy and has been for years now.

Ward is usually on pace too average what he has throughout his career, he has missed two games, and has still put up good numbers. He is a top ten receiver, and no one can argue that.

I didn't say he wasn't a great reciever. Just that he isn't a top ten WR in my opinion, and never has been. He doesn't have that speed, or that height, or that hands advantage that top WRs like Moss & Owens do.

Yeah because Owens has such great hands, he misses the easiest passes, that is something Hines Ward does not do.

Next you apparently completely misread what I wrote, because you're arguing that Hines Ward is versatile, and thats exactly what I said. I said Hines Ward is one of the most versatile players in football because of his other skills BESIDES catching the ball.

His other abilities such as blocking make him a top ten receiver, no other receiver in the NFL can block like him, he doesn't make dumb decisions, nor does he drop easy passes like Owens.

Do you even bother to read what I write anymore?

I usually ask the same about you

Next you say Santonio Holmes has the chance to score every time he puts his hands on the ball. Fucking RIDICULIOUS.

He has the ability too open up the field, he has blazing speed, you throw him the ball he has the ability too score on any play

Are you serious here? Just no, thats one of the stupidest things I've ever heard.

No that was somebody saying two seasons ago was 2006

Go tell them to hand Holmes the ball on every play of the entire game, and I'm willing to bet he wouldn't score once. Why? Because he's a WR with speed. And thats it.

You don't hand receivers the ball. hmmm, He also has good hands and does not drop the easy passes

Thats all he has is his speed. He's not a very good ball handler, and he certainly doesn't require opponents to write up a game plan for him. He's overrated.

Yes it does, he causes match up problems, he opens up the field, it makes coordinators plan coverages too not make this happen

Now, once again, I'm going to go over with you what the term "overrated" means. You remember right? When someone is rated at a higher level then they should be? Considering thats the definition, care explaining how Derek Anderson is overrated when probably 50% of football fans don't even know who he is, or what team he plays on? Anderson came into this season as a joke, no one expected anything better then a very mediocre season. He has surpassed those expectations and RATINGS tenfold and has put the Browns in a spot to go to the playoffs this year when no one was even dreaming of that.

Ok, so you are saying Anderson is accountable for all their success? So Braylon Edwars or Kellen Winslow have nothing too do with Andersons success?

If anything, by definition, Derek Anderson is underrated. Very underrated.

^^^^

Now Tony Romo you say is overrated...yeah those 35 TDs sure look pretty overrated to me, I'd much rather have the 20-something TDs that Big Ben has put up. Tony Romo is the second best QB in the league RIGHT NOW. You can't deny that; wanna know why you can't deny it? STATS. STATS = SCIENTIFIC FACTS. It's a scientific fact that Tony Romo is having a better year then any other QB besides Tom Brady. Considering Romo came into this season with everyone having marginal hopes at best for him, once again, I'd say by definition, he'd be underrated.

Ok, so Witten, or Owens have nothing too do with his success? Owens leads the league in receiving yards, and Witten is leading tight ends in catches? They combined have 21 touchdowns.

Please, for the love of GOD Brian, learn what the word "overrated" means. Seriously, its not that hard.

Yes I do, and if you look at stats, all around both Romo and Anderson are overrated, and Hines Ward is vastly underrated for everything he has accomplished since 1998.

 

[X]

You know what Brian, I'm done here. Don't reply to anything I write in here again. Your logic is absolutely fucking ridiculious, and everything you say is not taken serious by anyone here. You are the joke of the NFL thread.

Your arguments make no sense, you bring up points that have nothing to do with the argument, and you just in general make zero sense. So because TO & Witten are having great years that means Romo is overrated? So then if thats what you think, then wouldn't Big Ben be overrated as well considering what great seasons Willie Parker & Hines Ward are having? Because if you say "no" then you're just a complete and total hypocrite.

Okay, thats it. Please don't reply, because you'll just be talking to the wall. I can't listen to you harp on about your overrated Steelers (who got their asses handed to them by the Patriots, the team you declared they would easily beat weeks ago) as though every player on that team is god's gift to football. There are going to be players on football teams that suck. Its that simple, its a fact of life. Everyone's shit smells the same Brian.

End.

 

[BooCocky]

You know what Brian, I'm done here. Don't reply to anything I write in here again. Your logic is absolutely fucking ridiculious, and everything you say is not taken serious by anyone here. You are the joke of the NFL thread.

I say the same about you, i believe you are the joke too the thread.

Your arguments make no sense, you bring up points that have nothing to do with the argument, and you just in general make zero sense. So because TO & Witten are having great years that means Romo is overrated?

No people point out the fact that Romo is having some marvelous year, where Owens and Witten are combining for more than half of his touchdown passes.

So then if thats what you think, then wouldn't Big Ben be overrated as well considering what great seasons Willie Parker & Hines Ward are having? Because if you say "no" then you're just a complete and total hypocrit.

There would be an E at the end of hypocrite. Alright time too break this down. Ben has 2,751 passing yds. Ward has 646 receiving yards. Holmes has 677. 646 + 677 = 1323. Thats less than half of his receiving yards. Touchdowns Ben has 26. Ward has 6, and Holmes has 7. thats 13. thats half. Now lets look at Romo, 3654 yds passing. Owens 1270 receiving yards, Witten has 955. 1270+955=2225. Alright. They are accountable for more than half of Romo's yds. Alright touchdowns now. Romo has 35, Owens has 14 td catches, Witten has 7. 14+7=21. There again, more than half of Romo's td's. Alright good ol' Anderson now. Anderson has 3247 yds passing. Edwards has 1106 yds receiving. Winslow has 943 yds receiving. 1106+ 943=2049. More than half of Anderson's success. Anderson has 26 td's, Edwards has 13 receiving Td's and Winslow has 5. A combined of 18 out of Anderson's 26. Thats like 70 percent of his td passes between two receivers. Hmmm. Romo, and Anderson have more too work with where they have more players accountable for half of their success. IMO that defines how they are overrated.

 

[Lil Wes]

I say the same about you, i believe you are the joke too the thread.

Hahahahaha.

No people point out the fact that Romo is having some marvelous year, where Owens and Witten are combining for more than half of his touchdown passes.

Ok, Brian...WHAT THE FUCK IS A QB SUPPOSE TO DO???? GET THE BALL TO HIS TOP RECIEVERS...GOOD FUCKING GOD...IS IT REALLY THAT HARD TO UNDERSTAND.

Who gets the ball to T.O. and Jason Witten? Tony Romo. It's his job, he does it because he has the ability too.

Xfear already handed your own ass to you on a silver platter so I'll move along.

Now lets look at Romo, 3654 yds passing. Owens 1270 receiving yards, Witten has 955. 1270+955=2225. Alright. They are accountable for more than half of Romo's yds. Alright touchdowns now. Romo has 35, Owens has 14 td catches, Witten has 7. 14+7=21. There again, more than half of Romo's td's

LMAO, What kind of argument is this? Who's Tony going to throw the ball too? Wade Phillips...NO...NO...WAIT!?!...How about Joe Buck or Troy Aikman in the booth...Hell I'm sure Buck has Mike Irvin type hands.

Hmmm. Romo, and Anderson have more too work with where they have more players accountable for half of their success. IMO that defines how they are overrated.

Why? They have 2 great recievers....Any smart QB would look for them both every snap.

Ask any QB.

Again...Same garbage Brain...Dallas is better than your team, Tony Romo is better than your QB. Derek Anderson is on your QB's level, and he is very underrated.

FACT.

 

[RBH]

You guys had your fun...Steelers-Patriots is over...they already played..NEW ENGLAND WON...move on! Steelers will get another chance as long as they dont have any other players running their mouths!

This is the NFL Thread right? And we are 3 weeks away from the playoffs right? Wellll......what do you guys think about this years playoffs.......at the moment it looks like this...

afc nfc
1. new england 1. dallas
2. indianapolis 2. green bay
3. pittsburgh 3. seattle
4. san diego 4. tampa bay
5. jacksonville 5. new york giants
6. cleveland 6. minnesota
7. buffalo 7T-Arizona-Detroit-New Orleans

For the first round I see whomever plays the Jaguars losing because the Jags are that good this year and whoever plays the 6 seed winning in the AFC and for the NFC...Tampa Bay is going down in the first round no matter who they play because they are laregly inconsistent and I think the Giants can beat them....Seattle advances past Minnesota behind Matt Hassleback's arm (I hate to say it tho being a Niners fan)

The second round has the Pats beating whomever is the #4 seed (most likely the Steelers) and the #3 seed upsettting the Colts...I think the Chargers can beat the Colts and so can the Steelers..the Colts are NOT the same team they were last year...they have been ravaged with injuries and many other obstacles...

In the NFC, the Dallas Cowboys and Green bay Packers both advance as Lambeau Field swallows up another opponent and Tony Romo throws for 350 yarrds (most likely against the Giants) and then we have the Conference Games

AFC Title
Pats will win a close game behind Defense and Special Teams as they pull it out at the last moment to beat the Chargers/Steelers

NFC Title
Packers will upset the Cowboys as their boys get healthy and they adcance to the Super Bowl for a Super Bowl XXXI Rematch!

Super Bowl
If the Packers are fully healthy, I see Brett Farve leading the Pack to victory and retiring the same way John Elway did....or if not...I see the Pats pulling out a close one...I have been right 6 super bowls in a row so Im still deciding.

 

[The Bearded One]

DOLPHINS WIN!!!!!!! Holy crap. I thought that they might win this one, because everyone gets lucky and the Ravens have been on quite a losing streak. You have to feel good for them. Won on a deep pass play in OT.

But in more important news, my Jags physically dominated the Steelers. The score does not indicate how badly Pitt got dominated. It was a great game. Its been a good day for NFL football.

 

[RBH]

Where is everyone? XFEAR are you there? Brian? Will? Well anyways Niners won! Haha drop that draft pick Patriots Fans....Im content with you guys winning it this year but I dont want anyone tying or breaking the Niners, Cowboys and Steelers for most super bowls (at 5) so this is the Pats year and then thats it!

I was impressed by the Redskins. I was the only person in my contest to pick them. I feel so proud for doing that. The Jags also played really well picking up a road victory against the Steelers.

Did anyone catch the Bills-Browns game? Holy Starbucks! I want to play in a game like that! I live on west coast so I dont see snow so I wonder what it is like. I dont want cold weather and all, I just wonder what it is like.

Anyways the Pats, Colts, Cowboys and Packers have all clinched byes and are set for the playoffs. The Browns won again and they hold the 6th spot. I cannot wait until the playoffs!

 

[Yankeefan55]

The Redskins still have an outside shot at the 2nd wild card spot too. I'm a Giants fan and they played horribly, well actually Brandon Jacobs dropped like 5 easy passes out of the backfield and Toomer dropped a long pass. Dropped passes is what cost us the game so now we need to win this week since we have the Patriots in week 17.

 

[TheOneBigWill]

The Redskins still have an outside shot at the 2nd wild card spot too.

I love how Carolina at 6-8 "has" a true "outside" shot. In order for this to happen, I think Minnesota would have to lose both of their remaining two games. (against the Redskins & then, against Denver) Then, Washington would have to win against the Vikings, but drop their week 17 game against the Dallas Cowboys.

Now, factor in both of those are big possibilities.. granted, far off, but they could happen.. now, you look at what Carolina would have to do.. they'd have to "win out." Beating Dallas, Saturday.. then Tampa Bay in week 17.

Now, with all that being said.. I kinda still think Carolina is only screwing themselves out of a better draft pick by suddenly trying to win. If they wanted to win, they should've capitalized against the Falcons & Saints. Two games they lost in the latter part of the season, that they truly could've won. Especially the Falcons game.

The other funny thing is.. Carolina, when they lose, they lose generally by about a 31-7 type of score. But when they win, its normally a 24-10, or 31-14 type of game. Also, is it weird that they have way better luck ON THE ROAD, than playing at home?

 

[RBH]

iF Carolina had won at least half of their home games, they would be in a much better position than they are at right now. Thwy would probably be 8-6 instead of 6-8 and in the Vikings spot. They have a shot but not likely with the Cowboys next and the Cowboys are pissed off too after losing last week so I don't know.

So much frustration as a Niners fan, if we had a decent offense we would be 8-6 easily right now.....there were 3 games we could have won..atlanta, baltimore, st louis and also we could have beaten Carolina if Michael lewis did not fumble the punt return thats 4 games that could have gone in different directions we are 4-10 right now..yeah thats 8-6...wow big difference certain games make.

 

[TheOneBigWill]

iF Carolina had won at least half of their home games, they would be in a much better position than they are at right now. Thwy would probably be 8-6 instead of 6-8 and in the Vikings spot. They have a shot but not likely with the Cowboys next and the Cowboys are pissed off too after losing last week so I don't know.

As much as I love Carolina, they won't make the playoffs. There are way too many random things that would have to go right, including them winning against Dallas, which during the regular season hasn't happened in what, 6-7 years?!

Furthermore, Carolina doesn't have the ability as a team right now to even compete with the better N.F.C. teams.. & I like them having never lost until at least the N.F.C. Championship game, or Superbowl each time they've made the playoffs. I'd rather they won it all, just once.. but it says something that the team has gone to the N.F.C. Championship game EVERYTIME they've made the playoffs.

So much frustration as a Niners fan, if we had a decent offense we would be 8-6 easily right now.....there were 3 games we could have won..atlanta, baltimore, st louis and also we could have beaten Carolina if Michael lewis did not fumble the punt return thats 4 games that could have gone in different directions we are 4-10 right now..yeah thats 8-6...wow big difference certain games make.

The 49ers were stuck with Carolina's issue, with QB injuries. Alex Smith wasn't really having a great season to begin with, but he still offered more help than Dilfer did. The stupid thing is, 80% of everyone is going to question if this would've happened, had they of started Shaun Hill instead. Just like Carolina fans will question why we never started Matt Moore instead.

Next year is another season.. Hopefully Carolina does something right during the off-season, for once, & signs a decent WR. (especially if any big named ones go into FA)

 

[RBH]

What a great week! The 49ers won again! I mean yeah the Bucs rested their regulars in the 2nd half but they were down for many parts of the game anyways. Next year is going to be good for the Niners if we can finally get our act together!
The Pats are still unbeaten but they are not getting any top picks. They will destroy the Giants at the Meadowlands and head for the playoffs. I cannot believe that the Giants are in and the Redskins won again! Unbelievable! The Vikings have blown it. They are not making the playoffs this year! They have to win at Denver next week! The Redskins dont even have to win next week to make the playoffs. they need a Vikings loss.

 

[X]

Damnit, why did your 49ers suddenly decide to start winning? Theres no use damnit! Ah well, our pick will still be a top 10 hopefully.

Pats beat the Dolphins...what a shocker. Lot of strange games though, how about the Bears just handing the Packers their asses for the 2nd time this year? Odd. Redskins honestly don't deserve to make the playoffs....they really haven't played that well at all, a team like Minnesota has played a hell of a lot better IMO.

So just the Giants left in the Pats quest...should be an easy game. This whole year is already wrapped up in my opinion, it has been for weeks now. I just do not see anyone beating the Patriots in the playoffs. You can say "well what about those games that were really close?"...and they won those. If there is a single team that plays better in the clutch then the Patriots have over the last 5 or 6 years, please tell me.

 

[RBH]

Dude! I missed you! Where u been? Can I first say Merry Christmas to XFear, Brian, Will, That one Jaguars fan and anyone else I forgot to mention. Yeah thats funny they started winning. The Redskins have proven to be good on defense the last two games and both wins were on the road. That kind of impresses me to a point. Yeah I believe that the Pats are winning it all if they play anyone but the Packers. I believe Green Bay is the only team that can beat the Pats in the Super Bowl mainly because of Brett Farve. But if the Pats play anyone else, they will win it all and that doesnt bother me. The Niners still among the leaders in Super Bowl rings at 5 so the Pats would need one more next year to tie us.

The Browns are now officially the dumbest team in football. They have a shot to clinch a playoff spot and what do they do? They lose to the Bengals. No No No! They lose to the Bengals defense! Even the Niners beat the Bengals defense. Come on! Now they need the Titans to lose to the Colts abd the they need to beat my Niners! If you all remember last year, my Niners cost the Broncos their playoff spot on the road and it could very well happen again. The Browns need the Titans to lose and they need to beat us to makethe playoffs. The Redskins dont even need to win to make the playoffs. They just need the Vikes to lose and they are in. Its that easy. Also, the Saints would have to lose too if both those teams lose which is not an impossibility.
Even tho the Pats are the heavy favorites, I am looking forward to seeing some tight football in the playoffs. A couple years ago I had a customer who was a mad Patriots fan and she was as nuts about them as u r Xfear! And this one Bostonian last week told me that in Boston, that you guys like in order Red Sox, Celtics and thennnn Patriots so I wonder who is the favorite right now. We'll find out in a few weeks.

 

[The Bearded One]

Instant classic. That was easily the best NFL game I have ever seen. Thank goodness the Jaguars prevailed. They had an 18 point lead and blew it. David Garrard didn't play too great, but did just enough to win the game. This game will end up on ESPN Classic. Paul Spicer said it best on his interview after the game...

DUUUUUUVAAAAAAAAAAAAALLL!!!!

 

[X]

Yeah that was a great game. It's just a shame that it was all for waste, as they're going to lose to the Patriots on Sunday. Oh well, good season for the Jags for sure.

Hmmm....where has Brian been? Has he finally realized his Steelers aren't the greatest team on Earth?

So the Wildcard is settled. Picture looks like this...

NFC
Seahawks vs. Packers
Giants vs. Cowboys

AFC
Jaguars vs. Patriots
Chargers vs. Colts

Everything looks pretty cut and paste to me. Pats beat the Jags, Colts beat the Chargers, Cowboys beat the Giants...the Packers-Steelers game interests me though. That Seahawks defense is beastly with Patrick Kerney...and if he can pressure Favre and make them rely on their run game, the Seahawks will outscore them for sure IMO.

 

[RBH]

You typoed twice dude..lol...Pats play saturday night prime time! Packers playing Seahawks....Yeah the Pats are gonna kill the Jags. I still remember the 28-3 beating a couple years back by the Pats and that was without Moss. Now the Pats have too much power to lose and the Colts and Cowboys are the only teams that are gonna give them a fight. I need the Colts to win to advance in my contest tho. Cowboys better beat the Giants because they have beaten them twice and I hate the Giants.