08/11/14 Raw LD - Happy birthday, brother!

[Alastor]

As opposed to the sophisticated crowd involvement skills of who?

 

[J-Dogg]

Puppetering and working the crowd is the same thing just different words.

 

[Nate DaMac]

It's so juvenile, how could you not understand it? "I hear the cheers!" Obviously the crowd is going to cheer. "I hear the boos!" Again...it doesn't take a genius to know how the crowd is going to respond. Fans want to be involved. What is truly idiotic is someone thinking that is expertly puppeteering the crowd.

Yeah but those guys booing are supposed to hate Cena so much. If so, why do they act exactly the way he tells them to? Why don't they just sit there with their hands in their laps like they do whenever they're watching someone that they truly don't care about?

 

[Kliq]

And we have the typical Cena complaint. Jeez, do you guys have the same guidelines about how to criticize John Cena? Do you follow a set of rules? Is it on Bleacher Report?

I don't know how typical it was, but I was honestly surprised to see so many of the same crowd that can appreciate Heyman also enjoy that Cena promo. Do you all also enjoy watching a Hot Pocket in the microwave? It spins the same way every time.

 

[Dream]

lmao brie almost tripped down the walk way

 

[Vageena Hertz]

Brie nearly fell hahaha

 

[Chrome]

no reaction at all for Brie

 

[DirtyJosé]

First, I don't know why you guys say I 'continue with the loaded comment' or 'run it into the ground.' I mentioned it (along with other points) in one post last week and I mentioned it once again tonight. Is that running it into the ground. Certainly not compared to those with the opposing viewpoint.

As I mentioned in my reply to you good matches can come from those you don't expect it. In this case women. Women aren't usually involved in good stories or matches. This one is getting an unusual amount of time and with all the effort being put into it I'm hoping they have something good planned for the PPV.

You can't tell me people don't have preconceived notions about women's wrestling. I do and I read it all the time. "Time for the diva piss break." All I'm saying is this angle is getting much more effort than the usual diva angle and I expect a better result because of it. Maybe I'll be wrong but this time I'm going to wait and see before shitting on it. I think the story has been good and very few people have given a reason why it's not. Some have and they are good points. I was just asking why others had a problem with it.

And pre-loading it with your preconception of why. I've no issue with someone disagreeing with me. I think it's pretty tacky when they start assuming why I think or feel the way I do though.

Well, how's this: It's obvious this is a holding pattern to keep things going until Bryan can come back. It's transparent as shit, so it's pretty clear that nothing too drastic is going to happen until that day comes. Personally, I think it's boring and uninspired. I'm happy that they are doing this to attempt at holding Bryan's spot, but I still think it's boring as shit.

Good lord this is terrible. "For him to win, I have to lose!" How poetic! Cheap attempts at heat and pops, and once again we have the Cena reaction recipe.

John Cena... Yawn. It's. So. Fucking. Stale.

Glad to see these LD's draw the mouth breathers still. Guys, it's not 2007 anymore.

 

[J-Dogg]

Plain and simple, Cena is the top guy for a reason

 

[Lee]

Brie nearly fell hahaha

 

[Nate DaMac]

Bait and switch in 3..2..1

 

[Galvatron]

She getting arrested?

 

[Skuzzy]

lol brie almost tripped

 

[#tamale]

I don't know how typical it was, but I was honestly surprised to see so many of the same crowd that can appreciate Heyman also enjoy that Cena promo. Do you all also enjoy watching a Hot Pocket in the microwave? It spins the same way every time.

because Cena and Heyman are great.

Who would want to watch a Hot Pocket in the microwave?

 

[DirtyJosé]

Speaking of which, piss break.

 

[Fire Marshall Bill]

If Brie were really cool she'd get excited about the handcuffs.

 

[J-Dogg]

Cena haters are oxygen thieves

 

[BaconBits]

People just don't understand Cena and how he works the crowd...idiots, he's not even stale or shit

I say it's stale because he follows the same formula every feud in his promos. He always gets super serial in his promo on the go home show and raises his voice to super intense levels. He's a goof most of the time, so the serious stuff seems so forced.

I think the material was pretty good, it's just that the delivery needs some new wrinkles. Tone it back just a bit. I think that would have been more effective.

 

[Chrome]

LAME as fuc

 

[Kliq]

Yeah but those guys booing are supposed to hate Cena so much. If so, why do they act exactly the way he tells them to? Why don't they just sit there with their hands in their laps like they do whenever they're watching someone that they truly don't care about?

I think that is a good example of a huge misconception (here in the IWC and maybe elsewhere). Does any significant % of WWE fans actually hate Cena? I don't think very many of those who chant 'cena sucks' actually care enough to hate him. They're just fans who oppose the Cena character.

 

[Nate DaMac]

Ugh. Again.

 

[JoeFromTomsRiver]

So people don't like Cena. They boo him.

Then, when he says "..and people boo me..", those people should NOT boo, because then they are just "being worked" by him??

That makes no fucking sense.

 

[ahawki06]

If she makes bail? I'm sure she can afford it.

 

[J-Dogg]

He serious stuff isn't forced...he balance his goofy and serious stuff. Hell what he does works no matter the reactions, Cena hate is so outdated

 

[sonamagun]

And then they wonder why the viewership goes down when they are on TV.