Because you never even post in your section. Shat is criticizing me for not posting in these last two weeks. Big difference.
The Election
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Because you never even post in your section. Shat is criticizing me for not posting in these last two weeks. Big difference.
shattered dreams
Hexagonal Hedonist
It does when Jglass is calling people out for not recognizing how great a candidate you are to do something that you don't actually do. You write about people just in it for the glory like you aren't one. That is the real Crock.
I don't read the WWE section regularly but I strongly suspect this problem extends well beyond 2 weeks.
Nate DaMac
Fuck erbody but me
Jesus Christ. You know, I used to post threads and try to post in pretty much every thread back when I desperately wanted to be a mod a year or 2 ago. That led to me making a lot of shitty posts and basically giving myself a worse reputation, basically minimizing my chances. Crock is more than active enough in the WWE Section to handle it. This notion that we need someone to drive discussion in the WWE Section, the most active forum here, is fucking laughable. Jackhammer has it covered.
It doesn't hurt to be a bit active though. Not that Crock isn't. I don't have much of a clue on what he does.
Copy and pasted from the ABC thread where I made my final summation, for what it's worth.
I have made my stance abundantly clear, so I won't go on and on about it again. My intention is to become the newest moderator, and to co-moderate the TNA section. As a wrestling forum first and foremost, with an emphasis on the non-spam variety of discussion of it, I think this should be the focal point of selecting a new staff member. All due respect to sports, VG &T, music, spam, or anything else, non-spam wrestling should be the bread and butter of these forums. While IDR is doing a masterful job with the TNA section, this section is growing as TNA continues to improve, and I think it is time to add a second mod to this section, to lighten his load a little. And I think with my longevity on these forums, and with the fresh perspective which I can bring to TNA in a respectful and thought provoking manner, I think I would be a more than reasonable choice to fill this niche.
Some people have suggested that I am not active in the TNA section. While I agree this has been the case in the last couple of weeks, while I have been preoccupied with this damn election and getting my party's position established, I don't agree with it in the grand scheme of things. I do tend to pick and choose my posting in there, because I am not a believer in quantity over quality as some guys tend to fall victim to. But I do feel that I typically have sufficient activity to qualify for a mod position there, and I would expect my activity there to increase if I were named to the staff.
Admittedly I am a WWE guy first, that's obvious to anyone who bothers to read my stuff. But there is no need for a fourth WWE mod, or at least, not as much as a need as there is for a second TNA mod. I believe that my WWE disposition actually makes me a unique candidate for the TNA position, because I won't be a mod that blindly espouses TNA no matter what they do. I will bring balance to the discussion, at times a dose of reality when needed, and as such, can drive some pretty significant discussion from a diametrically opposite standpoint. I have done this many times, just ask shattered, or IDR, or JJYanks, or Slyfox. Ask Sly about our three day debate over the aftermath of the Angle/Roode post Bound For Glory situation. This is what I think TNA needs: a fresh perspective.
I think I have proven myself in non-spam wrestling in general. I can definitely do it in the TNA section. A second mod is definitely necessary there. And not a IDR version 2.0 (no disrespect to IDR intended there and he knows it). Someone who can respect the two divergent opinions and keep a clear head in the discussion of both sides of the coin.
I have made my stance abundantly clear, so I won't go on and on about it again. My intention is to become the newest moderator, and to co-moderate the TNA section. As a wrestling forum first and foremost, with an emphasis on the non-spam variety of discussion of it, I think this should be the focal point of selecting a new staff member. All due respect to sports, VG &T, music, spam, or anything else, non-spam wrestling should be the bread and butter of these forums. While IDR is doing a masterful job with the TNA section, this section is growing as TNA continues to improve, and I think it is time to add a second mod to this section, to lighten his load a little. And I think with my longevity on these forums, and with the fresh perspective which I can bring to TNA in a respectful and thought provoking manner, I think I would be a more than reasonable choice to fill this niche.
Some people have suggested that I am not active in the TNA section. While I agree this has been the case in the last couple of weeks, while I have been preoccupied with this damn election and getting my party's position established, I don't agree with it in the grand scheme of things. I do tend to pick and choose my posting in there, because I am not a believer in quantity over quality as some guys tend to fall victim to. But I do feel that I typically have sufficient activity to qualify for a mod position there, and I would expect my activity there to increase if I were named to the staff.
Admittedly I am a WWE guy first, that's obvious to anyone who bothers to read my stuff. But there is no need for a fourth WWE mod, or at least, not as much as a need as there is for a second TNA mod. I believe that my WWE disposition actually makes me a unique candidate for the TNA position, because I won't be a mod that blindly espouses TNA no matter what they do. I will bring balance to the discussion, at times a dose of reality when needed, and as such, can drive some pretty significant discussion from a diametrically opposite standpoint. I have done this many times, just ask shattered, or IDR, or JJYanks, or Slyfox. Ask Sly about our three day debate over the aftermath of the Angle/Roode post Bound For Glory situation. This is what I think TNA needs: a fresh perspective.
I think I have proven myself in non-spam wrestling in general. I can definitely do it in the TNA section. A second mod is definitely necessary there. And not a IDR version 2.0 (no disrespect to IDR intended there and he knows it). Someone who can respect the two divergent opinions and keep a clear head in the discussion of both sides of the coin.
shattered dreams
Hexagonal Hedonist
I never said you sucked Crock, I just said that in the unlikely event there was some great need for a WWE conversation driving mod (see Nate's post) that you are far from the top candidate. You admitted that you get on and shoot the shit (spam post) and keep up with the election (seek glory) instead of posting in the section you want to mod. I am not grasping at straws. I am pointing out a fundamental flaw in your entire approach here. WWE section has pretty much never been your priority here and your recent actions do nothing to convince anyone otherwise.
To be fair Habs isn't doing much better. If I read another word fort of his that isn't followed up with actions I might vomit. He has at least posted TNA in the last two weeks though.
To be fair Habs isn't doing much better. If I read another word fort of his that isn't followed up with actions I might vomit. He has at least posted TNA in the last two weeks though.
Who said I would need to be that guy? I never said I wanted to be the next Jack-Hammer.
It's no fundamental flaw, it's me not wanting to post trash when I don't have the computer time to post well.
EDIT: My primary non-spam section, the one where most of these thousand posts came from, is WWE. This Summer, I ran a faction dedicated to posting there.
It's no fundamental flaw, it's me not wanting to post trash when I don't have the computer time to post well.
EDIT: My primary non-spam section, the one where most of these thousand posts came from, is WWE. This Summer, I ran a faction dedicated to posting there.
November 20th. And no, that's not the "premise" of driving discussion. Keeping existing threads hot is just as important as creating new topics of discussion.
You are wrong. Nate has only been a mod for a few months. He has done his job pretty well, but there have been a few weeks where he's been too busy to mod.
The WWE section isn't bad by any means, but it could be better. Another pair of hands to help clean up the mess, and he could also help drive the discussion.
I don't disagree, but I don't think there's a huge difference between them. TNA doesn't gets as much action, and IDR does a more than adequate job of modding the section.
I don't see the connection. Coco has made a tremendous case for why he should be the next mod.
1) Harthan isn't just a great wrestling poster. As good as he in that department, I think he's an even better non-wrestling poster, and could very well be one of the most intellectual posters we have, which would make him a perfect fit for the Potluck.
2) Nick expressed no interest in modding The Cigar Lounge. Why would we make someone the mod of a section they're not interested in?
Your logic isn't exactly sound, but even if the amount of TNA posters did increase, I doubt it'd be to the point that IDR couldn't handle.
Additionally, that's a bridge we can cross when we get there. As of now it doesn't need another mod, so why waste a vote on it?
You were wrong.
Seems like you're doing it to all the wrong people.
Calling them foolish is a little harsh. I'd say behind the times.
G-Mods have to worry about every section. It'd be nice for D-Man, X, and jmt if they had someone whose primary focus was on the spam sections.
Uh... you're joking, right?
Did you read what I wrote? At all? How is that not explaining why he's qualified?
1) HHF is not a better wrestling poster than Crock.
2) Irrelevant.
3) It could be said, but I disagree. The V&T section pretty much runs itself right now. If there comes a time that we need a mod for the section, Sly and KB will appoint one.
Now you're just being silly. At no point did I say we shouldn't get new mods because it would mean training them, but you can't deny having someone with prior experience is a tremendous help. Why do you think real companies hire employees with prior experience in the field.
If you want more reasons why Harthan is better qualified than most other candidates here are a few: He's the smarted person running, he's extremely confident, he's a NorCal protege which means he's destined for greatness, and I hear he's not too hard to look at either.
He'll get to it quicker because he'll have his ever watchful eye on the spam sections.
Very... VERY high.
Except they aren't. D-Man, X, and jmt all have lives of their own that prohibit them from spending a lot of time in the spam sections, as do Sly and KB. Having Coco in there would mean a dedicated spam mod that can take care of business when the admins and G-Mods can't.
Hyorinmaru
Sit Upon The Frozen Heavens
true but you mentioned mods that never post in their section which is what I was referring to.
Mods that don't post threads. Not just regular posts.
Hyorinmaru
Sit Upon The Frozen Heavens
Point for Crock
shattered dreams
Hexagonal Hedonist
Thanks for listing another thing he failed to do.
Blame Jiggles. This is all his idea.
So you had time to make 300 spam posts (likely mostly trashy) but you couldn't come up with a decent idea to write up in 5 minutes for a whole month? Don't bullshit us by jumping on the excuse Jglass came up with for you which you already admitted wasn't accurate.
Nice follow through. I remember these factions. They flamed out quickly and were mostly used to build a long thread in the cage. I am not saying you could not do it. I don't think it is hard. I am just saying you sure have a curious way of selling yourself and you should quit spammin' it up singing your own praises while putting down others and add some substance to your campaign if this is something you really want to do. Talk is cheap, so is bullshit.
That's the point of spam -- I don't have to sit down and take my time for a well thought out post.
You're trying really hard to make a point, but you're failing. Nate, a WWE mod, said I'm more than active enough.
Nate and JGlass may have their points, but the one's you gotta get behind you are Sly and KB.
shattered dreams
Hexagonal Hedonist
And my point is you have always preferred to make 10 not well-thought out posts instead of one well-thought out post. Why should that convince me you would be a good non-spam mod?
He also said there was no need for a mod in the section you want
Nate DaMac
Fuck erbody but me
KB wasn't behind me. Hell I don't think he even knows what section I mod since I read his Thanksgiving thread.
Nate DaMac
Fuck erbody but me
He also said there was no need for a mod in the section you want
There's no need for someone to drive discussion. We could always use help cleaning up, Nick and I seem to be on a weird times so there's a few gaps of time without either of us (or D-Man who does just as much) where another pair of eyes would be helpful.
shattered dreams
Hexagonal Hedonist
What started all of this was Jglass repeatedly claiming there was a need for such a person and Crock was a great fit for such a role.
Not at all true. There were times where I would log on and make a bunch of great non-spam posts and log off. You're trying to argue something, while not knowing the facts.
shattered dreams
Hexagonal Hedonist
And there were 10 more times for each of those times that you did the opposite. Like today for instance. I see how busy your schedule has been. There is no possible way you could have posted in the WWE section
Nate DaMac
Fuck erbody but me
Well I sort of disagree with that. Nick and I post pretty regularly in the section but neither of us really create threads. There's no shortage of threads there and Jackhammer makes plenty of them. We're mostly clean up mods, and I have a tendency to disappear for a couple of days here and there. Crock is on like, every day.
It doesn't really matter to me though. Crock could be put anywhere and excel, he has the most important quality you need to be a mod; Common sense.
The way I see it, what section someone is running for is almost irrelavant. If I were still on staff I'd want someone who excels in at least two of these areas: personality, intelligence, work ethic, and vision. If there's one thing I learned while on staff it's that having a speciality is nice but at the end of the day we are a team that works and discusses things together. My picks to win - MTM, Coco, and Harthan - have all of these qualities I would look for in a staff member and each also has that X-Factor that makes me see them as mod material. Harthan has experience. Coco is popular and can bring change to the table. MTM is very responsible and easy to approach with issues, ideas, or a game of Littlebigplanet. All three would make excellent additions to the staff because they excel and they get what it takes to be on staff.
While at the end of the day a mod position is a glorified janitorial job with less respect, there is something to be said about those who feel like natural appointments.
While at the end of the day a mod position is a glorified janitorial job with less respect, there is something to be said about those who feel like natural appointments.
