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Even for Cena fans... this is the best year and so he has had in 8 YEARS!. He is part of the high profile feuds, NEXUS, CM PUNK, ROCK, LESNAR.

Winning or losing has nothing to do here, the guy is in the spot light and wwe is feeding him with the best names they can.

If you are a Cena fan, be happy, because the guy is getting the best. If you are not a Cena fan, enjoy, because we are in a period where we know cena can lose, cena can be beaten, and cena can be humilliated (kayfabe).

This^^ I have to agree entirely. Yeah, I've had the thoughts of "WTF are they doing to Cena?!?" but at the end of the day the feuds he's been in during the past few years have been great. I haven't seen a greater set of feuds for one guy in a long time (CM Punk being the other more recent one...)

He's not getting buried... and possibly could be taking time off. The man deserves a break. He's done a lot since 2002. He deserves a few months off to just take a step back. With Lesnar being there, the company has someone to fill the void for a little while.

It has been a great few years for the guy. He's had a hell of a lot of exposure, I'm curious to see where it leads...
 
I think it's great that WWE is finally letting Cena lose I know he has lost in the past but week after week he has won on RAW, and that's why a lot of fans can't stand him or there getting fed up with WWE's booking with him he's always on the top of the hour just talking and then at the bottom of the last hour in the last match of the night it gets boring after a while,

Back in the 80's and early to mid 90's WWF would have a different main events each week with DIFFERENT WRESTLERS not just one main guy at the end of the night and Cena is not even the Champion anymore but yet he's always on last I'm sorry but shouldn't CM Punk be the last guy on since he is the Champion You would have thought The WWE Championship match would be the last match of the night not the first.
 
Maybe your forgetting Shawn Michaels, HHH, Edge, Batista all beat Cena "clean" also. And why doent CM Punk at MITB count?

When did Edge beat Cena clean? if you say when he cashed in mitb on him after new year's revolution in 06 than yeah, he put edge over clean, it only took him going through an elimination chamber where he came in first for them to allow edge to go over clean.
But Money in the Bank doesn't count because they had to have Cena be distracted and go punch johnny ace so he seemed like the honorable boy scout that he is and then having punk hit the gts for the win.

But this whole thread is a little ridiculous, its about time cena racked up some losses. to the members of the cenation who disagree, think about how everyone else feels, all of our favorite superstars lose clean all the time. a good amount of them to Cena himself, hell some of them even on the grandest stage of them all in 18 seconds. so you have no right to complain about cena losing. it's refreshing and original.
 
Is it me or is the WWE just not original anymore? I just finished watching Raw and watching Lord Tensai steal a victory from Cena. Now I suppose in two weeks we get to see Brock do the same. Is this the best WWE creative can do? Tensai or let's just call him by what we all think of when we see him Albert is still as horrible as he was years ago and Brock to be honest has lost some of his mystique since getting whipped in the UFC. I want to know what happened to creating characters like The Warrior, Taker,Kane,Yokozuna,Macho Man, etc. I could go on for days listing wrestlers from the 80's but I wont.

My question to the forum is do any of these guys they bring in today feel like the wrestlers from back in the 80's and 90's? To me they don't come close and maybe it's because things just move to fast but Tensai is terrible and not believable since the UFC shows us that big fat guys generally can't fight (Roy Nelson I am not talking about you). I am sick to death of this generic crap we are fed now. I think Cena is great but when you put a guy like Tensai over him I have to wonder what the hell? I don't buy it. Brock I can buy but even he doesn't have me very interested since his run in the UFC showed that his "monster physique" can be overcome by technique. Does anyone else feel this way? I just want something to fit and be like now this guy has a chance to go somewhere. Until Ziggler is ready and gets his own WWE Title run I guess I will wait and hope all these said monsters go away.

I for one am absoultely loving WWE right now!! Its never been this hot in a long time as it is now. Johnny Ace as the evil GM wanting to screw punk,sheamus and Cena at any opportunity. I like Lord Tensai but i think his gimmick will grow stale rather quickly. I loved the fact Tensai beat Cena clean last night good for him. Why dont you buy it? He spit green mist into cenas eyes blinding him and put the baldo bomb on him. 1-2-3 beat him clean.

As far as Lesnar goes that dude as of right now you cant deny is getting the loudest pop in the arena. Lesnar is bad ass (demolished Heath hearring,beat Mir into a bloody pulp,and even beat my hero Couture!! Brocks problem in the UFC was and is he didnt like to get hit and lost to way better strikers!! But Brock nonetheless is a former UFC heavyweight champion brock is the indestructible monster that will give Cena fits at ER.

SO I think the WWE is being very original pushing the edge of PG and finally their putting on a product for us the adults to enjoy not just the kids. GOod job WWE and johnny ACE
 
Lesnar left because he hated the hectic travel schedule of WWE. Which is not hard to blame him when you consider he done about 3 fights a year for UFC, getting paid more money. I tell you why i hate Cena, its the same crap everyweek same 5 moves of doom same old crap on the mic, same old Shit.
 
I really don't understand anything they're doing right now.

I guess Brock is supposed to seem heelish and Cena's the underdog, but nobody thinks that. Nobody's rooting for this dude and nobody wants him to win or would believe it if he did. So what's the point? They had Brock give a heel interview basically saying a bunch of things that are true and everybody knows it. That didn't help their case.
 
You contradicted yourself. WWE needs more characters, then bash Tensai for being trash? He's a alright character. Who cares if he was Prince Albert or the Hip Hop Hippo in WWE. Undertaker wasnt always the Undertaker, and if people werent acceptive of his deadman gimmick & WWF/E pulled the plug it would've been a huge mistake. Albert isnt no Undertaker, but give him a chance his character is only 3 weeks old.

People forget the 80's-00's many of us here on the forum were young kids. Ever sit back and watch a cartoon you watched when you were a kid and see how terrible it really was now that you matured? Thats kinda how WWE is. I admit product is getting a bit bad too.
 
Is it me or is the WWE just not original anymore? I just finished watching Raw and watching Lord Tensai steal a victory from Cena. Now I suppose in two weeks we get to see Brock do the same. Is this the best WWE creative can do? Tensai or let's just call him by what we all think of when we see him Albert is still as horrible as he was years ago and Brock to be honest has lost some of his mystique since getting whipped in the UFC. I want to know what happened to creating characters like The Warrior, Taker,Kane,Yokozuna,Macho Man, etc. I could go on for days listing wrestlers from the 80's but I wont.

My question to the forum is do any of these guys they bring in today feel like the wrestlers from back in the 80's and 90's? To me they don't come close and maybe it's because things just move to fast but Tensai is terrible and not believable since the UFC shows us that big fat guys generally can't fight (Roy Nelson I am not talking about you). I am sick to death of this generic crap we are fed now. I think Cena is great but when you put a guy like Tensai over him I have to wonder what the hell? I don't buy it. Brock I can buy but even he doesn't have me very interested since his run in the UFC showed that his "monster physique" can be overcome by technique. Does anyone else feel this way? I just want something to fit and be like now this guy has a chance to go somewhere. Until Ziggler is ready and gets his own WWE Title run I guess I will wait and hope all these said monsters go away.

How are they not original anymore? I really don't get this point dude. They used Otunga as a distraction so Lord Tensai could use green mist on Cena to pick up a win. Great way to put green mist over as a good move to take out your opponent. And it was done on WWE's Nr.1 Face. If that's not good booking, nothing is.

Can't say I was watching Albert during his previous run but so far (and especially since this week) I'm really enjoying his run. This whole Japanese thing is really gotten me interested and it seems they are doing good job at booking this guy.

If things go well I would believe he will do great filling in for Umaga. A decent monster heel character and a solid in ring worker. Can't go wrong here.

Oh and you are a bit off with Kane, Undertaker and Yokozuna. All those 3 are not 80's but 90's characters;). If you are really a guy who has been watching for 30+ years you should really know that:disappointed:.

Tensai is horrible because UCF shows us that?

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I don't think you want me to give you an education and tell about the difference between UFC and WWE.

I see you are UFC fan who might have followed the show on regular bases. If so tough luck for you but as described by the other guy not everyone is following UFC on regular bases. I sure don't (hardly watch TV). Sure I know Brock had a few wins and loses but there is only one thing I know for sure is that he proved all those nay sayers and haters wrong when he still managed to get that UFC belt. He still proved he is better than the other guy. Officially he was the top dog of UFC and that is what WWE is selling. Can't say I'm not buying it. It still an accomplishment most WWE talent won't ever achieve.

As far as monsters go you are probably will have to wait long. Brock will stay here for a while (dunno if I'm allowed to say for how long and if that would be considered spoilers) and I would believe Vince will always want monsters Like Henry/Umaga/Big Daddy V/Lord Tensai/Khali and so on and so forth. I can't see his fetish with these big men disappearing anytime soon.

You know what really gets me going is that Cena has been their best wrestler for all of these years, he's busted his ass of for the company and now all of a sudden because John Laryngitis is now the big dumbass hot shot all of a sudden he's losing? For what, for Brock Lesnar to come back and try and make a name for himself? I don't normally complain but I am tonight ~ I don't like Lesnar and I never will; he was too full of himself in the UFC and he's still way to full of himself now. He figures if he had stayed in the WWE that he's be the #1 man and that Cena would be carrying his bags. So if that's the case, then why didn't he stay? Was UFC that much better that he absolutely *had* to leave? Its so not original to cause the best wrestler in the WWE to start losing like he's weak when we know he's not; unless this is their way to showing the fans who always bitch about Cena being shoved down their throats that they are gonna let him lose for awhile.

What does this prove? Not a thing, I'm just tired already of Laurinitis throwing his weight around, making the good guys suffer and the bad guys puff out their chests like they're such big tough guys. RAW is not original right now nor are they doing anything new, this just goes to show that when they going gets tough they drop the ball ~ I hope it picks up soon, or I will only be reading the updates here on Wrestlezone since watching it just isn't an option right now.

I can't see how Cena has been best wrestler just because he has busted his ass for years. So have many more superstars whom by many might been better than him. Can't see how that is nothing more but well sold propaganda by WWE....since lets face it obvious propaganda is obvious.

Because John Laurinaitis has done what? Don't tell me you seriously think that it's Laurinaitis who makes the booking decisions:suspic:.

For Brock to make a name for himself? Not so much. He has already made name for himself last time he was around. He was the next big thing that Vince wanted to push as WWE's The Guy(or at least that's the word on the streets). All he needs now is to continue his legacy and make money. Nothing's really wrong with that as long as he gives the crowd their money's worth. Yes he is full of himself but I do believe as long as it serves the storyline it's all well and swell with me.

He didn't stay because he didn't like the tough schedule and the constant traveling. Also I do believe he really wanted to make it playing football(to bad it was a failure). UFC run was a success from what I can tell. Apparently UFC doesn't have as tough of a schedule as WWE does so the obvious answer to if UFC was better would probably be yes.

Cena is once again not best wrestler in WWE. I'm by no means a purist but even I can tell that. And once again he is not weak since I can't remember him being booked weak. You want weak booking? Look no further than WM 28 and 18 second "that was not a match" with DB and Sheamus. That was weak and a burial. This what we have now has already been explained as part of the current storyline with vulnerability after Rock vs Cena.

You just had nothing to complain about since it was not a normal match but extreme rules match which got interfered by Otunga and later green mist was put over as a big and effective move by Lord Tensei. Everybody wins in this one.

That last line really got me scared for your own sake. You are almost talking as if either Laurinaitis is the big booker in WWE or wrestling is not scripted.

Be my guest. No one forces you to watch if you hate everything in a show. But we all know you would watch because this show is still worth watching.

Even for Cena fans... this is the best year and so he has had in 8 YEARS!. He is part of the high profile feuds, NEXUS, CM PUNK, ROCK, LESNAR.

Winning or losing has nothing to do here, the guy is in the spot light and wwe is feeding him with the best names they can.

If you are a Cena fan, be happy, because the guy is getting the best. If you are not a Cena fan, enjoy, because we are in a period where we know cena can lose, cena can be beaten, and cena can be humiliated (kayfabe).

Nexus died last year and Cena vs Nexus ended early next year also. Cm Punk was also last year but I would assume you mean for over a year and not just this year.

Well to be honest Brock by far is more believable threat to Cena than The Rock in all senses of the word. He could really be the guy who would make him run for his current spot.
 
You know what really gets me going is that Cena has been their best wrestler for all of these years, he's busted his ass of for the company and now all of a sudden because John Laryngitis is now the big dumbass hot shot all of a sudden he's losing? For what, for Brock Lesnar to come back and try and make a name for himself? I don't normally complain but I am tonight ~ I don't like Lesnar and I never will; he was too full of himself in the UFC and he's still way to full of himself now. He figures if he had stayed in the WWE that he's be the #1 man and that Cena would be carrying his bags. So if that's the case, then why didn't he stay? Was UFC that much better that he absolutely *had* to leave? Its so not original to cause the best wrestler in the WWE to start losing like he's weak when we know he's not; unless this is their way to showing the fans who always bitch about Cena being shoved down their throats that they are gonna let him lose for awhile.

What does this prove? Not a thing, I'm just tired already of Laurinitis throwing his weight around, making the good guys suffer and the bad guys puff out their chests like they're such big tough guys. RAW is not original right now nor are they doing anything new, this just goes to show that when they going gets tough they drop the ball ~ I hope it picks up soon, or I will only be reading the updates here on Wrestlezone since watching it just isn't an option right now.

90% of your post indicates that you are not aware that professional wrestling (AKA: Sports entertainment) is scripted.

Is it me or is the WWE just not original anymore? I just finished watching Raw and watching Lord Tensai steal a victory from Cena. Now I suppose in two weeks we get to see Brock do the same. Is this the best WWE creative can do? Tensai or let's just call him by what we all think of when we see him Albert is still as horrible as he was years ago and Brock to be honest has lost some of his mystique since getting whipped in the UFC. I want to know what happened to creating characters like The Warrior, Taker,Kane,Yokozuna,Macho Man, etc. I could go on for days listing wrestlers from the 80's but I wont.

My question to the forum is do any of these guys they bring in today feel like the wrestlers from back in the 80's and 90's? To me they don't come close and maybe it's because things just move to fast but Tensai is terrible and not believable since the UFC shows us that big fat guys generally can't fight (Roy Nelson I am not talking about you). I am sick to death of this generic crap we are fed now. I think Cena is great but when you put a guy like Tensai over him I have to wonder what the hell? I don't buy it. Brock I can buy but even he doesn't have me very interested since his run in the UFC showed that his "monster physique" can be overcome by technique. Does anyone else feel this way? I just want something to fit and be like now this guy has a chance to go somewhere. Until Ziggler is ready and gets his own WWE Title run I guess I will wait and hope all these said monsters go away.

Moving on, not original? We haven't seen this for awhile but I this is just another "I crave old school, new school sucks!" thread that comes up once in awhile (unless you are reading Youtube comments). So spitting green is apparently not entertaining? Eh, that us preference based buy anyway if you don't think watching Raw is an option, feel free to cease turning on you TV to USA network on Monday Nights.

WWE is doing great in terms of the quality of RAW at the moment in my humble opinion. Punk/Henry was awesome as was Bryan/Kofi, but lets move on to what you were ranting about Cena/Tensai. The match was simply made to make Tensai look strong, and the ending was used to not make Cena look weak due to loosing to a man that debuted a little over two weeks ago. The Brock feud on the other hand has been brilliant, billing him an ass kicker and going after the man that took his spot after he left is brilliant use of Lesnar's departure in 2004 leading to a new feud. They don't feel like the wrestlers from the 80s or 90s because it's not the 80s or 90s anymore, move on and stop venting your anger on missing the old days through comparison with today's product. It's okay to compare, but by the looks of it, it seems you have overdone.

Before you say UFC guys can't fight, I suggest you take a look at a UFC fight.
 
90% of your post indicates that you are not aware that professional wrestling (AKA: Sports entertainment) is scripted.



Moving on, not original? We haven't seen this for awhile but I this is just another "I crave old school, new school sucks!" thread that comes up once in awhile (unless you are reading Youtube comments). So spitting green is apparently not entertaining? Eh, that us preference based buy anyway if you don't think watching Raw is an option, feel free to cease turning on you TV to USA network on Monday Nights.

WWE is doing great in terms of the quality of RAW at the moment in my humble opinion. Punk/Henry was awesome as was Bryan/Kofi, but lets move on to what you were ranting about Cena/Tensai. The match was simply made to make Tensai look strong, and the ending was used to not make Cena look weak due to loosing to a man that debuted a little over two weeks ago. The Brock feud on the other hand has been brilliant, billing him an ass kicker and going after the man that took his spot after he left is brilliant use of Lesnar's departure in 2004 leading to a new feud. They don't feel like the wrestlers from the 80s or 90s because it's not the 80s or 90s anymore, move on and stop venting your anger on missing the old days through comparison with today's product. It's okay to compare, but by the looks of it, it seems you have overdone.

Before you say UFC guys can't fight, I suggest you take a look at a UFC fight.

First of let me tell you that IMHO Goodfellas (Which is based on the book WiseGuy) is probably one of the best and if not the best mob flick of all time. IMO even better than The Godfather. You deserve to be repped just for that avatar my good sir:worship:.

Now on to real things of interest. That guy was either not aware that wrestling is scripted or thought that Laurinaitis was making storyline decisions. I really would hope for that guy is the later. One of key things to remember on a wrestling site is to know what the hell you are talking about before you start typing away. But hey that would be good advice given to just about anything.

Like the saying goes:

If you don't got it, get it. If you don't get it, go figure it out. That is all.

It really sounds more like the guy is enjoying himself but has some "the good ol' days vs these days" issues. Very common and it just shows that they either haven't watched much since Golden Era/New Gen/AE or they simply not eager to accept the change that WWE has undergotten( and they are not planning to reverse the current direction) (wanna disagree OP? Well you should probably watch the latest business summit before WM before that).

The good ol' days are awesome for a nostalgia kick but as described it really does not create new awesome guys/gimmicks/talent that people can get behind. Can't dwell in the past. It's really time to get that look out of the way..that's what I say.

As for Cena coming out weak from that match I have to disagree here. The match although pretty short was pretty decent and evenly matched. He did not look weak at all to me. And ended in pretty heelish fashion which all looked decent to me. If talking about weak last time something was weak was as I said Sheamus vs DB WM28(let's just call it 18 seconds since everyone knows what it is by now). That was weak and this was very good in comparison.

As for Lesnar I agree what you said. Brock/Cena feud has been very good so far for reasons you described.

Well I would also add it's not even 2000's anymore. We are way past the good ol days of TV 14 and Ruthless Aggression and even the age of HBK/Taker/HHH is over and Y2J is there to put over Punk. Yeah it's the whole new picture we have right now.

This is 2010's where whole new talent is on the uprise. We'll see who really has it to make to the top. Far from everyone expected will and that's how the ball rolls around WWE unfortunately.

I think he was suggesting more that Big Guys are not as good in UFC since they can be outfought by technique more than what you suggested he meant. Also he was probably trying to fantasy book(in his head) WWE Big Guys in UFC which IMO really doesn't fly that well (well at least with me) for obvious reasons.
 

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