WWE Survivor Series 2010 - Aftermath and General Discussion

[TheTruNoLimit]

I actually think Survivor Series has potential this year. Three matches thus far, all good, logical booking decisions by WWE.

Randy Orton and Wade Barrett could be a decent WWE Championship match. Nothing great, but again, of the decent variety. And with John Cena as the referee they have all but guaranteed that something interesting is indeed happening. Cena either will HAVE TO screw Randy Orton or he is fired (because there is no way that Wade Barrett legitimately beats Orton here because that would make Cena's job way too easy). Either case scenario is Cena is fired, which at least opens up a new storyline for Cena or we may see the beginning seeds of a legit heel turn planted. I am looking forward to that.

Edge and Kane should be decent. Wouldn't be surprised if the match itself was just as good as Orton and Barrett, seeing as how they had a couple very entertaining matches together in '05. Granted, this is 2010 and it's 5 years later, but they should be able to have a decent match and Edge has gotten over as face VERY quickly. It's pretty much top face vs. top heel and we haven't seen them have a big match in 5 years, so it's more than welcome.

The Divas Championship match is a logical choice and I'm glad they're going this route. Give them five minutes, have a decent little divas bout and move on. I'm glad they go here rather than a Divas elimination match which is always a huge clusterfuck.

And Smackdown! had build up to at least 2 more matches. Team Smackdown! vs. the Nexus in a elimination tag team match. And of course, MVP wound up becoming #1 contender for the Intercontinental title. So we could see Ziggler vs. MVP or even Ziggler/MVP/Rhodes/McIntyre in a Fatal 4 Way.

Team Smackdown! would obviously feature the Big Show, Kofi, Del Rio, Rey (health permitting) and maybe Kaval or either Rhodes or McIntyre if they're not involved in the IC title picture. Nexus has been done before, but not against Smackdown!, so at least it's a new look for the Nexus.

I also think we could see a Team Morrison vs. Team Sheamus match and another singles match maybe with Ted DiBiase vs. Goldust with the Million Dollar belt on the line or DH Smith vs. Tyson Kidd.

 

[Stephen11]

With the current matches on the card, Survivor Series is looking to be a disappointment unless something major happens between now and then.

Let's face it, the WWE Championship match is predictable. Barrett will have the title by the end of the night, Cena won't be "fired" (worst threat ever) and Orton will be pissed. There are a couple variations on how that match will happen but it really won't be that interesting unless something major happens because we already know Cena isn't going anywhere but he'll probably be out of Nexus.

The stipulation is Barrett gets the title or Cena is fired, not Barrett wins the match. The Bragging Rights WWE Championship match was extremely disappointing as the ending was predictable and you knew exactly what was going to happen after Barrett said his promo.

Edge vs Kane should be an interesting match, nothing special but never the less a decent match.

Unless we see some traditional survivor series matches come together or something we haven't seen in a while, this PPV won't be that interesting. Let's hope WWE can pull it together in 2 weeks.

 

[TheTruNoLimit]

With the current matches on the card, Survivor Series is looking to be a disappointment unless something major happens between now and then.

Let's face it, the WWE Championship match is predictable. Barrett will have the title by the end of the night, Cena won't be "fired" (worst threat ever) and Orton will be pissed. There are a couple variations on how that match will happen but it really won't be that interesting unless something major happens because we already know Cena isn't going anywhere but he'll probably be out of Nexus.

The stipulation is Barrett gets the title or Cena is fired, not Barrett wins the match. The Bragging Rights WWE Championship match was extremely disappointing as the ending was predictable and you knew exactly what was going to happen after Barrett said his promo.

Edge vs Kane should be an interesting match, nothing special but never the less a decent match.

Unless we see some traditional survivor series matches come together or something we haven't seen in a while, this PPV won't be that interesting. Let's hope WWE can pull it together in 2 weeks.

Isn't Cena screwing Orton something major? Let's face it. There's no way Cena can come out of screwing Orton as the babyface he's always been. For Cena to do that he will have to have made a conscience decision to go against everything he believes, to let the entire "WWE Universe" down who he constantly vows to never let down, he will have to hang his head in shame, some fans may turn on him, and if WWE plays it right, after weeks of trying to apologize to the fans, Cena turns on them and we have a heel Cena. I think this could very well be the beginning of something major. Especially with the thoughts of Cena going heel at Summerslam and rumors of a heel Cena vs. Taker at some point. This could be the beginning of something we thought just a year ago we'd never see.

 

[TheTruNoLimit]

With the current matches on the card, Survivor Series is looking to be a disappointment unless something major happens between now and then.

Let's face it, the WWE Championship match is predictable. Barrett will have the title by the end of the night, Cena won't be "fired" (worst threat ever) and Orton will be pissed. There are a couple variations on how that match will happen but it really won't be that interesting unless something major happens because we already know Cena isn't going anywhere but he'll probably be out of Nexus.

The stipulation is Barrett gets the title or Cena is fired, not Barrett wins the match. The Bragging Rights WWE Championship match was extremely disappointing as the ending was predictable and you knew exactly what was going to happen after Barrett said his promo.

Edge vs Kane should be an interesting match, nothing special but never the less a decent match.

Unless we see some traditional survivor series matches come together or something we haven't seen in a while, this PPV won't be that interesting. Let's hope WWE can pull it together in 2 weeks.

Also, I think a Nexus vs. Smackdown match should be a lock and also a team Morrison vs. team Sheamus, they will have at least 2 elimination matches that should be entertaining as it still is an attraction at the Survivor Series. They're fun.

 

[zachman123456]

I think WWE made a big mistake for not announcing any matches on Raw or Smackdown last week. So now we only have one more Raw and Smackdown until Survivor Series. So if some matches get announced this week then that gives it no time to set up some what of a good story to a match. And Raw this week is the old school style Raw. So the focus will be on the old school stuff and not on Survivor Series. So since WWE is doing this I am assuming that their wont be any traditional 5 on 5 elimination matches this year. So the matches i would like to add to the card are: Sheamus vs John Morrison, Daniel Bryan vs Dolph Ziggler US title and Intercontinental title unification match, Rey Mysterio vs Alberto Del Rio in a No DQ match, The Miz vs R Truth for Miz's money in the bank briefcase, Jack Swagger vs The Big Show, Cody Rhodes vs Drew McIntyre vs Kofi Kingston vs MVP for a future world title match.

 

[TheTruNoLimit]

I think WWE made a big mistake for not announcing any matches on Raw or Smackdown last week. So now we only have one more Raw and Smackdown until Survivor Series. So if some matches get announced this week then that gives it no time to set up some what of a good story to a match. And Raw this week is the old school style Raw. So the focus will be on the old school stuff and not on Survivor Series. So since WWE is doing this I am assuming that their wont be any traditional 5 on 5 elimination matches this year. So the matches i would like to add to the card are: Sheamus vs John Morrison, Daniel Bryan vs Dolph Ziggler US title and Intercontinental title unification match, Rey Mysterio vs Alberto Del Rio in a No DQ match, The Miz vs R Truth for Miz's money in the bank briefcase, Jack Swagger vs The Big Show, Cody Rhodes vs Drew McIntyre vs Kofi Kingston vs MVP for a future world title match.

I agree matches should've been announced in advance but I'll wait and see what happens before I officially complain. There's still 2 traditional Survivor Series matches that are just begging to happen.

Morrison, R-Truth, Mark Henry, Santino & Kozlov vs. Sheamus, Miz, Ezekiel Jackson, Uso's is a possibility. Morrison vs. Sheamus has been built up using both Santino and Kozlov, so there's three members of a team right there. R-Truth always teams up with Morrison and they can recruit Mark Henry. Sheamus could be forced to reluctantly recruit a team, obviously including the Miz and the Uso's (Mark Henry has battled them repeatedly on Superstars lately) and maybe Miz handpicks Big Zeke again (maybe even with Zeke turning on Miz in the match).

Also a Team Smackdown! vs. the Nexus still feels very possible. Big Show, Rey, Kofi, Swagger and Del Rio perhaps? All it would take is the Big Show showing up on Raw Monday night and saying he's sick of letting the Nexus take the fight to Smackdown!, now he's going to lead Smackdown! in taking the fight against Nexus. Brings out a couple guys and boom, there we go, there's another match set.

So, there's still 2 matches that make perfect, logical sense with the way things have been booked lately.

MVP vs. Ziggler (or MVP, Ziggler, McIntyre and Rhodes in a 4-Way) should be a shoe-in for the IC Title, especially since they've been hyping Survivor Series being in MVP's hometown (and since the way the match ended on Smackdown! where MVP's foot was on the rope, which should've broke the count), I could see this being added.

Don't forget either that maybe we'll see Goldust vs. DiBiase with the Million Dollar belt actually on the line. Also, maybe the Hart Dynasty thing finally boils over and they have a match at the PPV. So there's still 5 decent matches that are all waiting in the wings. We just have to wait and see. But if WWE goes into one of their big 4 (and even if you say it's not, it is because it's in its 23rd year) with only 4-5 matches announced it'll be an epic failure on their part and they'll deserve the horrible buyrate they get.

My expectations are low because WWE has seemed to adopt the idea of only announcing about 5 matches for a show now.

 

[Rated_R_Edgehead]

I can't believe wwe hasn't made any more matches apart from the 3 title matches, very poor ppv build up on their part and it's for one of the main ppv's at that!

I really hope on smackdown that the rest of the matches will be made, although at this point it still seems a bit late and they didn't seem to do a very good job of sell Survivor Series this year.

I would have liked to see them make a legends vs new superstars elimination match to have been made, but how foolish of me to even think that.

 

[martymcfly]

I'll be honest, for being one of the big 4 pay per views, it's harder to be excited about many of these matchups. I usually purchase around 2 pay per views a year and it looks like this won't be one of them.

Team mysterio vs. team del rio: absolutely no buildup to this match (although I suppose they might throw something together for this friday on smackdown). I miss the classic survivor series where we would see weeks or even months of a buildup that finally ended in a survivor series match where we actually care about the winner. Not the case here. Seemed like a sloppy throwtogether just to make the name of the pay per view still be true.

orton vs. barrett: I've already posted about this in the orton vs. barrett thread. Only thing interesting about this match is how it will end. Orton is boring, and barrett is horrible in the ring. As intriguing as "what will cena do" is, it's not worth buying a pay per view to find out.

tag team championship: likely comedy filler. don't need to pay to see that.

kane vs. edge: very unlikely kane will lose the title after beating the undertaker so many times, as that would make him look weak. he'll need to continue to look dominant until the undertaker returns and those two can have yet another match. chances are we'll see a title shift during a triple threat or fatal four way, so kane can lose the title without being pinned

sheamus vs. morrison: this could be a good match. one of the few solid matches on the card and at least there has been some sort of buildup for this match.

laycool vs. natalya: yawn.

So I hate to say it, but this pay per view card is pretty lame. so it will not be added to royal rumble or night of champions as pay per views worth a purchase this year.

 

[MizFit Brocko]

Ok, so what does everyone think about the IC Title and US Titles?

On Raw, DiBiase came out after Swagger vs Bryan and grabbed the US Title. I think there will definitely be a thrown together US Title match between these 2 at SS. With Ted winning i hope, probably with interference from Maryse . The whole goldust thing was terrible, and i think he should be given another chance, taking the title from DB, then having a decent feud with him.

I don't know who Ziggler will be facing at SS. With MVP/Rhodes/Mcintyre all in the Mysterio vs Del Rio match, i can't think of anyone for him to have a match against... He had a title match against MVP last week on SD!, and wouldn't have fought another heel in Rhodes or Mcintyre for the belt anyways.. Unless they still intend to unify these 2 belts at SS, which would make the whole DiBiase thing on RAW pointless.... hopefully we learn more on SD! tomorrow.

 

[noizynoiz]

dolph is gonna retain the title because mvp will be a much better contender at the next ppv. kane is gonna retain his and probably lose it to undertaker when he comes back. justin and slater are gonna retain theirs A: because they just got it. B: wwe is trying to build them up... no one cares about laycool..when they fight i'm probably gonna grab a beer and check football scores or probably see what else is on. sheamus vs john morrison ...need i say more? if john morrison wins i'm gonna choke on my nachos

 

[Fuel The Fire]

Well before Monday I wasn't sure they should have had a gimmick show before the ppv. Im thinking, come on this is a business lets have a show that is gird for the ppv. They can have that type of a show but i figured it would have been better on a different day. But DAMN they really turned around at the very end of the show.

Roddy Piper sold the show! The pay per view. I cant say enough on how much he did in 5 mins to get people to watch the show. I feel he did more then orton cena and barrett in that promo for the match then they did during the whole promo. The whole focus has been about what is cena going to do. No one cared about the title. That is one thing that kind of bugged me because they just took the whole focus of what is really prestigious and its like they held cena higher then the title and NO one is higher then the title.

If you missed this great promo from pipper let me play it for you guys.
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This guy is just fucking great! He reminds us what this is all about again. The Fucking WWE Title. Pipper tied the whole damn show together around the title and just blew my mind. I will be part of the ld for the show tonight so im looking forward to talking with you all. But Pipper just did an excellent job of tying the whole show together from start to end. I just love it.

But ya just wanted to show what i thought about it all and perhaps start some conversation so i hope to type with you guys tonight

 

[Stephen11]

I gotta say, the build up for the WWE Championship match has been one of the best in quite a while. I'm really hoping that the match lives up to it's expectations and WWE doesn't pull some stupid crap.

The card for tonight looks very solid even though there isn't a lot of build up for some of the matches, it's still a very diverse card. I'm interested to see what will happen tonight!

 

[Dave]

Considering how out of touch I have been with the WWE in the last couple of weeks, I am surprised to be excited by the prospect of Survivor Series tonight. I haven't watched Raw all the way through without skipping anything for around a month but this is the big pay off for the WWE. This is everything they have been building up to in the last couple of months and it will be damn exciting to see how it goes.

Wade Barrett and Randy Orton must steal the show tonight. Either Wade Barrett is going to be a WWE Champion or John Cena is going to be out of the WWE. I know that Cena will not end up out in the cold but could you imagine if he was fired!? That would be insane. Either way, this match is going to be one for the ages, I think.

The other matches have been in the back seat to the main event but Kane vs Edge ought to be a good match also. Edge just belongs on Smackdown and having moved him over there, he looks to be finding some of the form that made him a World Champion in the first place. The feud with Kane has been pretty intriguing too. It is certainly much more than I expected it to be when they first started having the feud.

Really, anything is possible tonight and I am genuinely looking forward to it. We could even see the Miz cashing in his Money In The Bank contract and taking the title from Barrett or Orton. We could see the Raw GM revealed or anything. It should be a cracking event.

 

[FunKay the Inevitable]

It's definitely been an interesting build-up. For the longest time, this seemed very much like a one match show, but things have picked up in the last week or so and we have several interesting matches. I always enjoy the Classic Survivor Series matches so Team Del Rio vs. Team Mysterio will be a one to watch for me. Plus both midcard titles are being defended (how often does that happen). In fact all the championships are on the line.

Of course the main attraction is still Barrett vs. Orton. The way this has unfolded has left me on tenterhooks in preparing for this match. I'm incredibly psyched for it and I really am interested to see where it goes. I expect a Barrett victory, but I'm not going to say it's a guarantee. There's also the possibility that the 'higher power' type character behind Nexus will be revealed as was teased in the trailer for this PPV. Several interesting scenarios as we hurtle towards the final of the big four shows of the year.

 

[The Doctor]

On paper, this card is absolutely stacked. Every title is being defended. Every match looks exciting and new. Every match has potential to create new stories. This could quite easily be the best PPV of the year provided WWE doesn't screw things up.

Kaval and Ziggler, and Bryan/DiBiase could both be interesting and fun matches to get the crowd hot. I'm hoping for a Bryan victory, but the Kaval/Ziggler match could go either way and I'd be happy. Ziggler is on fire, but Kaval could gain a surprise victory. However, I have a nasty feeling that this is just WWE's way of using Kaval's title shot so he can lose and be future endeavor'd...

The divas match should be pretty good for a diva's match. Natalya and LayCool are the three most interesting wrestlers in the division, and with the possibility of a Beth Phoenix return, anything can happen.

Of course, the main event is what I'm looking forward to the most and a big reason I'm buying the PPV. So much could happen. I'm hoping Cena remains face, no matter what happens, since this story has really humanized his character and made me a big, big fan of the guy. I also don't want Miz to cash in just yet, because that would put way too many people in the title scene. I could see the anonymous GM being revealed or there being a new member of Nexus in the form of an established superstar. Whatever happens, my screen will have my undivided attention.

This PPV could be a massive success or a major disappointment. I hope it's the former, and with how this card looks on paper there's no real reason why it shouldn't be.

 

[hatehabsforever]

I agree with Doc in that I believe Ziggler retains against Kaval, and that Kaval's WWE future is suspect at best. Bryan will unfortunately lose tonight against DiBiase, due to interference from Maryse or something like this. DiBiase wins, but Bryan retains.

Natalya will finally defeat Laycool, putting Layla in the sharpshooter, mercifully ending this feud. Welcome back Beth Phoenix, hopefully as soon as tonight.

Don't really care who wins Nexus/Santino & Kozlov. A little comic relief, doesn't really matter to me either way, it's not like the tag team titles mean anything anymore anyway. I also don't care much about the SS elimination match. I'm really glad they are having a match of this style on this particular PPV, but I don't really care who wins it (I predict del Rio's team wins).

Sheamus will beat JoMo in an entertaining match, with this feud continuing beyond SS.
Edge will defeat Kane. Kane's title reign has gone on long enough, and face Edge just has too much momentum.

Barrett beats Orton cleanly without help or cheating from Cena. That way, Barrett wins so Cena is free of Nexus (not fired), but Cena doesn't turn heel in the process. After the match, Cena beats the bejesus out of Barrett, and an opportunistic Miz comes out to use his MITB briefcase. Mike Mizanin, the new WWE Champion by the end of the evening. His first action the next night on RAW? Ditching Alex Riley. Let the suspension begin.

 

[KKKKwe]

So every year they have a Wrestlemania Summerslam and Royal Rumble recall where they show history of the ppv and its most memorable matches but just so you know they never have a Survivor series recall and i do not understand why they dont as the PPV has lots of history plus its been lacking its touch for a long time since 2007. What i'm saying is do you think a survivor series recall would benefit Survivor Series oor do you feel the WWE just doesnt really caare about the Fall Classic.

Just so u know Survivor Series 2010 has been the best Survivor Series since 2006.

 

[KKKKwe]

My thought on Survivor Series is it was one of the best surivvor Series since 2006 and what I mean is since after 2006 survivor Series has been shit. This years fall classic was just right even though some of the matches didnt have a real story going into it. The matches were great even the divas match wasnt that boring. It wasjust sad the way Cena went out I mean i thought it could of ended in a different way where cena joins nexus or just simply hands over the belt. But either good ppv 7.5 out of 10

 

[Daniel.Wood]

Right , the matches that we all knew would be good wrestling matches for the in ring wrestling were all good.

Bryan Vs Di Biase and Ziggler Vs Kaval were very good. I just wish I cared about the outcome for both a bit more, I mean up until a week before tonight Bryan was in a programme with Ziggler (ish) , Di Biase was in a programme with Goldust and Kaval was doing diddly squat. Yes they were good matches but they really do need to build the mid-card PPV matches up more then they are doing.

The fact that both Bryan and Ziggler defended suggests to me those two against eachother in a unification of the titles at TLC. Which I think would be a fantastic match.

Morrison did indeed get the win over Sheamus, in another good match I would say. So it seems he's getting a push , although I'm not sure exactly where he fits in regarding any of the major titles , even the US or Intercontinental titles so I feel this feud needs to continue.

Sheamus Vs Morrison at TLC and then see where the WWE title is then, as Morrison just doesn't fit in at the moment.

The elimination tag match was good, but considering it had so many up and coming stars it just didn't do what I and I think a lot of people thought it should have done, and that's put people over. Kofi and Swagger had good moments, and Del Rio wasn't bad until he once again walked away, but other then that the new guys didn't do much of anything. Rey and Show won, which I think was obvious once the heel team started getting eliminated. I personally think they won to push them as a tag team (they have they're own finisher..)

Rey & Show Vs Gabriel & Slater at TLC for the tag titles. (just my opinion, I think Del Rio would have to be incorporated in their somewhere as I don't think this feud between him and Rey is over either)

Tag team match was everything we thought it would be, Squash match to put over the nexus team as strong, oh wait , no it didn't because not only did Slater and Gabriel hardly do any wrestling they won again with the numbers game. Give them some proper matches, with proper wrestling and i'm sure they'll do fine.

Kane and Edge feud will be continuing with Edge smashing Kane through a barrier and still having his father and Kane retaining the title. Probably the best outcome of the match.

Edge Vs Kane at TLC, with possibly Paul Bearer or something on the line as well.

Barrett Vs Orton - Well i'm just stunned by this, the WWE threw in the red-herrings of the Miz and R-truth, both were touted as possible interruptions, but in the end it was played out like a normal match with a normal referee. Just brilliant.

 

[jokaly]

the WWE product has disintegrated into compete trash. are the writers even trying? or are the just working week to week? I've been a WWF/E fan for nearly 20 years and cannot remember feeling so "shit on" so to speak, as I've felt during the last year. They've completely lost any sense of direction with Nexus. Barrett keeps talking this "master plan", and I don't think a single WWE writer can tell you what the master plan even is.
But more specifically, tonight.... Edge/Kane double pin??? Seriously???????? And I cant fucking wait to see how they write Cena back onto TV, because he's OBVIOUSLY not going to be gone for longer than say.... 3, maybe 4 weeks?? Horrendous PPV.

PS
What the fuck is Santino/Kozlov doing on my TV at 10:15 on a Sunday night???

 

[jokaly]

in fact... the ONLY thing they did right.... was putting the women's belt on neidhart's daughter. shes the only female in the company with any ability.

 

[TheOneBigWill]

TheOneBigWill’s W.W.E. Survivor Series 2010 Review:

1. United States Championship: Daniel Bryan © v. Ted DiBiase:

The show opens with a match made from this past Monday’s Raw. DiBiase just coming fresh off a feud with Goldust, that ultimately ended in the favor of Goldust but had DiBiase regain his Championship only to proclaim he wanted another title.

While I felt this match was good and it was a very strong opener, I just couldn’t swing past knowing that it SHOULD HAVE BEEN C.M. Punk against Daniel Bryan, in what would’ve obviously been a internet fan-boys dream; to see those two compete against each other in W.W.E.

I’m unsure if anyone truly felt DiBiase had a chance to win, but I just never felt it. He will be the future of the Company, and perhaps someday even become one of the better mid-card Champions in the business. That time, however, is not now. Daniel Bryan, fan base or not, is electric to watch regardless of who he’s facing. It can be a technical wrestler, or a power guy. Regardless of the opponent, Bryan just has a greatness to him and can make anyone look good.

2. Grudge match: John Morrison v. Sheamus:​

I think I may very well be one of the few who disliked this entire match. Not the contest, per-say; mostly just the ending. In order to understand where I’m coming from, you have to look at the entire career of Sheamus; then focus on where John Morrison IS and where he will ever go.

Sheamus is a guy who’s come out of nowhere from a year ago, to beating guys like John Cena, Randy Orton & Triple H. - to even ‘taking’ Triple H’s career more or less. And at the end of the year, he’s relegated to what?? Jobbing to Santino?! Why. I get losing to Morrison at some point, but not Santino - not even in a fluke. It makes Sheamus go from being a strong Main Event Superstar, to a joke of a performer.

Now look at Morrison and you see a guy that’s been given multiple opportunities to make something of his career; and I admit even I wanted to see him become something huge, but he simply hasn’t. For him to get the best of Sheamus for the better half of a solid month, leading up to this event.. only to then GIVE John Morrison the clean victory, it just buries Sheamus even further down.

Someone mentioned earlier that Sheamus as a strong Main Eventer is putting Morrison over in an attempt to more or less elevate him; the only problem with that is he could’ve did that in a winning effort just the same. Sheamus is a heel, it’s his job to find cheap ways to win. Shit, Sheamus’ entire career has more or less been cheap victories. His first Championship was won off people questioning if Cena actually meant to go through the table or not.

I just didn’t like the fact that for a solid month, more or less, Sheamus was buried in matches against Santino (by buried, I mean made to look foolish instead of truly deserving of a top spot in the Company) and made to look stupid by Morrison constantly getting the best of Sheamus, outside of one kick on Monday night. Bad ending to this match, all around.

3. Intercontinental Championship: Dolph Ziggler © v. Kaval:​

I think this is another situation similar to that of DiBiase & Bryan. While the match was amazing, and almost any Ziggler match has the potential to steal the show; I just can’t see how anyone felt Kaval was going to win here. His first victory on Smackdown was against Ziggler - and as such, he cashed in his guaranteed title shot to face him only 3 days later.

Kaval isn’t Bryan, and he doesn’t have the huge cult-like following that Bryan does. That being said, Kaval isn’t going to be handed a Championship from a guy that everyone enjoys watching. It’s simply too soon in his career for him to be winning titles in this Company. To those who know his past, sure, he’s capable of winning them; but to those who only watch the WWE, he’s just a rookie who won a contest that was less important after the Nexus made a big impact from the first Season of it.

Kaval is who I’d consider to be the modern day Tajiri, or even Juvi to some respects. He’s a guy that’ll get reactions out of the moves he uses, but he’ll never truly be loved by the fans beyond anything more than putting his body on the line. Ziggler should probably drop the title soon, but not to Kaval.

4. Traditional Survivor Series Elimination match: Team Rey Mysterio v. Team Alberto Del Rio:​

The last of a dying breed. Survivor Series was my 2nd favorite Pay per view, behind the Royal Rumble, mainly and only because of the Elimination matches. Anymore we get one, maybe two, per event and most of the time they’re slapped together. This is a huge example of a last minute add-on match.

Rey Mysterio and Alberto Del Rio have been on-again, off-again feuding for months and now they have teams put together over the course of what, a week’s time? So on each team you have two guys who more or less shouldn’t even be used for Pay per views (Masters & Reks), you have another two guys who just split from being a team, ON the same team (Rhodes & McIntyre) and you have the final 4 guys (Jack Swagger, Big Show, MVP & Kingston) who all want to be something bigger than mid-card, or in Show’s case is bigger than mid-card - all being the underlining to Del Rio & Mysterio’s mediocre feud.

Now you jump to the actual match, which as far as mid-card Survivor Series Elimination matches are concerned - it was really good, great even, as far as understanding it would’ve underlined a card back when these types of matches were what made the show. However, back then you had multiple situations/feuds.. now, we truly just have one. The two Team Captains.

And on that note, Del Rio was knocked out by the Big Show and more or less “eliminated” from the entire match-up, more or less as one of the first to go. So one half of the entire feud, is eliminated by a guy that isn’t even involved in any of it. Which leaves Swagger as the new Captain (you’d assume), and a who’s who of guys no one seems to care about anymore.

M.V.P, the hometown guy who was arguably getting the biggest pop of the night - is taken out of the match at the very beginning as well, which also made the crowd more or less completely dead for the entire thing. Why on earth would you do that? Anyways, moving on..

So, to end the entire thing - you have Swagger eliminated 2nd to last, leaving McIntyre - the once former Chosen One by Mr. McMahon, now nothing more than a mid-card jobber, who is left to win or lose for his entire team.. Against Rey Mysterio and The Big Show.. Rriigghhtt. Needless to say, this got a huge WTF was that statement once everything was said and done.

5. Diva’s Championship: Handicap match: Lay-Cool © v. Natalya:​

Sometimes when you know exactly whats going to happen, you still love when it does. Michelle McCool is perhaps one of the greatest heel divas to ever grace the WWE. Maybe I’ll take heat for that, maybe I’ll get shit on. But anyone who wants to argue it can go ahead and try. McCool has single handedly MADE the Diva’s division worth remotely caring about, for however much it is.

And on the flip side, Natalya the 3rd Generation Hart Family member, and to my knowledge first female from the Family can now proudly join her Uncle’s and Father in the list of Family members to win a Championship. It was a brutal match, and honestly a horrible mesh; but the ending justified the means, and was perfect to see unfold.

What made it even better was the return of Beth Phoenix. The only question mark to the entire thing was.. If Natalya became Diva’s Champion, and Phoenix is returning obviously as a face, will they have a friendly rivalry, or will Lay-Cool continue to carry the division - even without the title?

6. World Heavyweight Championship: Kane © v. Edge:​

It’s funny that I called this ending happening tonight, just not for this match. I will say that the match was kinda stale, and most of the time I think the biggest question was “Where was Paul Bearer?” and more importantly, after everything what was Edge’s main plan in kidnapping him, if he wasn’t even going to be used on the show as anything.

This will no doubt continue into a gimmick match at T.L.C., and while most people will jump instantly to a T.L.C. Championship match; to favor Edge, I’m honestly thinking it will be something else. Edge will become a 10x Heavyweight Champion someday, I just don’t know how wise it’d be to make that day come at the hands of defeating Kane.

Here’s my thoughts on why this ending was perfect for this situation..

Kane just got done spending the better portion of 3 months absolutely destroying the Undertaker, a guy that for lack of better terms spent the majority of a couple years back absolutely destroying Edge and his stable. That being said, its just not a great idea to build Kane up the highest you’ve ever built him, only to turn around and have him lose to a guy that by all rights will always be viewed as less than the Undertaker. It would’ve made Kane look weak.

Now, ending the way they did - it left Edge in competition for the Championship, but it didn’t solidly prove that Edge beat Kane cleanly. Now you can advance to a gimmick match, one that could even favor Edge, and perhaps you continue to build Kane into Wrestlemania; or if you want then would be the opportunity to switch over to Edge - when the moment favors him to win in every manner. Either way you have it, as much as people may of disliked this ending - I thought it was perfect for the type of build this feud has gotten. It’s just beginning, afterall.

7. Tag Team Championships: Nexus © v. Santino Marella & Vladimir Kozlov:​

So many issues I have with this contest. First and foremost, why the fuck is it 2nd to last on the card? While it’s basically a throw away match, it’s still not worthy of being 2nd to last.

Now, that being said the next problem I have is Santino being viewed as a credible threat at all. He’s a joke wrestler, like Doink the Clown. So why is he being viewed as someone who gets the hot tag and has to be illegally distracted just to be defeated?

Nexus may not be huge under Barrett, but surely they’re better than Santino. And the duo of Gabriel & Slater are an actual team - not just slapped together in an attempt to make humor. I beg the WWE to find themselves new Tag Teams and make their Tag division worth watching again.

8. W.W.E. Championship: Randy Orton © v. Wade Barrett:​

The final match of the night was perhaps the most dead one of them all, through the crowd’s perspective.

Maybe it was the fans just waiting for that one “OMG” moment that never really happened. Perhaps it was the audience staring at the entrance ramp awaiting the Miz’s music to hit and for him to rush down and attempt cashing in. Maybe, just maybe it was everyone not really giving the actual match any attempt to be worth anything - because the entire build-up was revolved solely around what will happen at the very end, regardless of what happens during.

I have to admit, I wasn’t favorable of this match-up. I thought it was boring and very slow paced. The main part of this match was the Official, and in that Cena didn’t do anything out of the norm that a regular official wouldn’t have done, which made the match all the more boring.

However, that’s where I loved it. The ending. Everyone was waiting on that one typical Survivor Series screw job, and in the end - everyone got it and most don’t even realize it. The screw job wasn’t that something bad would happen to Orton. It wasn’t even that Cena is now “technically fired”. It’s that the match went straight down the middle, with no shocking interference, no huge face/heel turn, and no big cash in after everything was said and done. In the end, it was a typical Main Event with a winner, and a loser.

Overall:​

So, my final thoughts on the Pay per view, more so the ending, is that it was probably about as good as it could’ve been, without truly throwing out “OMG” moments and random title changes just to gain a quick pop out of the fans. Cena’s now “gone”, and yet I’m (like everyone else) 100% sure he’ll show up on Raw over the course of the next few weeks with fan-like run-in’s on the Nexus until either they, or someone with authority reinstates him back into the Company. If this Pay per view did anything, it was guaranteed that Raw is going to have a nice rating for anyone who followed what transpired tonight.

 

[goukuma]

you make a good point. they really should do recalls do to its extensive history and hell it was at one point where THE UNDERTAKER made his debut exactly 20 years ago. i agree with you about the 2010 SURVIVOR SERIES. i actually attended it live and it was a amazing PPV. it had a awesomely stacked card as well. i might be biased but i think this was one of the best PPV ever

 

[RatedRCodeezie]

It had a really good card I agree. Happy to see both midcard and the tag team belts up for grabs, that's pretty rare excluding Night of Champions. Plus lots of good matchups like Kaval/Ziggler, Bryan/Dibiase and Sheamus/Morrison. I thought most of the in ring work from the ppv was great I just felt like overall the storytelling was kinda lackluster. I thought the ending truly sucked, and wasn't a big fan of the Kane/Edge finish either. But overall it was a very entertaining show.

Compared to Bragging Rights or Hell in the Cell it was a major improvement.

 

[Malenko316]

As I've just finsihed laughing my ass off over the Cena/tna thread that was shut down, might as well post here.

Question: do people read the other threads before posting? I'm guessing not as the boards recently have been a neverend moan about elimination tag matches being dead. There's you're answer, if the public, and more importantly management/creative is not sold on the whole format, its unlikelly they're going to invest in VT to promote the event if it's mothballed within a few years.

As for best in years? I might not go that far, but the focus on inring action was a plus, although that might have been the unintentional effect of crearive being SO lazy in the build up. Never confuse lethergy for strategy! PV