Wrestling Opinions You Don't Have the Guts to Post

[Uncle Sam]

Somebody mentioned Alex Shelley earlier.

Alex Shelly was a) a good wrestler, b) the better half of the Motor City Machine Guns, c) responsible, through Paparazzi Productions, for some of the funniest skits wrestling ever produced.

"Wouldn't it be inspirational if someone with chlamydia won, huh?"

 

[Mighty NorCal]

Somebody mentioned Alex Shelley earlier.

Alex Shelly was a) a good wrestler, b) the better half of the Motor City Machine Guns, c) responsible, through Paparazzi Productions, for some of the funniest skits wrestling ever produced.

"Wouldn't it be inspirational if someone with chlamydia won, huh?"

None of these belong in this thread.

 

[Uncle Sam]

Nothing I have to say belongs in this thread - I'm not afraid to say any of my wrestling opinions out in the open. It's my views on civil engineering that could really ruffle feathers.

 

[The Fabulous Rougeau's]

That its not civil or engineering???

 

[NSL]

Somebody mentioned Alex Shelley earlier.

Alex Shelly was a) a good wrestler, b) the better half of the Motor City Machine Guns, c) responsible, through Paparazzi Productions, for some of the funniest skits wrestling ever produced.

"Wouldn't it be inspirational if someone with chlamydia won, huh?"

I'd disagree on "B", but I have always been a mark for Sabin.

 

[jmt225]

Shawn Michaels vs. Vader is the greatest Summerslam main event match of all time.

 

[Uncle Sam]

Ric Flair is a big load of shit.

 

[BaconBits]

Ric Flair is a big load of shit.

I don't know that that opinion is unpopular. I'm pretty sure most people know that Flair is a scumbag in real life.

 

[Uncle Sam]

I meant as a wrestler. Bores the life out of me. His best matches are as an old man.

 

[BaconBits]

I meant as a wrestler. Bores the life out of me. His best matches are as an old man.

Oh. It probably is an unpopular opinion then. I tend to agree though. His promos can be really entertaining, but his matches were usually pretty meh.

 

[Miko]

JBL was one of the most boring heels ever. I didn't want some one to punch him, I wanted him gone from SD.

Boring as fuck. long winded heel promos that really didnt entice anything.

Shut the fuck up!

 

[bigandpissed]

Dean ambrose is one of the most overrated wrestlers I have ever seen in my life. I absolutely cannot stand him. His gimmick is pretty much a shitty impression of Brian Pillman and his ring work is all kinds of awful. His moves look all sorts of sloppy ala Mick Foley but the difference is Mick was overweight and looked like he should be uncoordinated, when Dean does it he just looks like a mongoloid.

And don't get me started on his facial expressions. He walks around the ring and looks like when they used to put peanut butter on the roofs of horses mouths to make them look like they were talking on tv. Even his latest action figure looks like it just hobbled off of a short bus.

 

[Pay Per Ghost]

Shut the fuck up!

Boring. As fuck.

 

[Messiah]

Lana is the worst valet in history. Not entertaining whatsoever.

 

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Fuck NJPW's main event stars. They're awful. There is a complete lack of dept and all my criticisms stems from the exact same storyline operating for the last 4 years.

Fans criticize the living fuck out of Cena but love Tanahashi and it's painfully hypocritical. Just look at his feud with Okada that could've (and should've) ended 2/3 times now. Okada beats Tanahashi for the title out of nowhere, drops it back to Tanahashi a couple months later, wins the G1 but fails to beat Tanahashi at the Dome. Up to this point the storytelling is alright. The young cocky heel upstart gets stopped in his tracks because he has much to learn and change things up before really overthrowing the ace.

Except apparently not, because just 4 months later the same guy beats Tanahashi again for the title and then goes on a 1 year reign, one of the longest in NJPW history. The he gets beaten by Styles, wins the G1 a second time, but fails to beat Tanahashi again at the Dome and cries afterwards. Wow, maybe we'll get character progression now.

Nope, he's still the cocky heel character after that and beats Styles to win the IWGP title in July, still no changing up anything, still no character progression. So if he beats Tanahashi for the title, he just does what he has already done 2 times before, without needing to change anything about his persona or wrestling style.

This is a 4 year angle in which the supposed main character didn't progress on bit, which means it's pretty terrible. Fuck their main event. Even if things do work out after this, what then? Okada beats Styles again? Or Tanahashi again? Or Nakamura? I'd like that actually.

Also IWGP does not need to separate their juniors and normal tag teams especially when your only contenders are the fucking Kingdom. RPG Vice deserve better.

 

[Miko]

Boring. As fuck.

I'll fight you!

 

[TeamRollins]

A.J. Styles is the best wrestler of all time.

John Cena and Roman Reigns suck.

 

[TeamRollins]

Also, the Bullet Club is the best stable in the history of wrestling. And the Young Bucks are an amazing tag team who keeps me more entertained than any other team in the WWE. I'm a proud fan of Superkick Nation and the Biz Kliz.

 

[Shadowmancer]

I just realised something, as much as I love 90s AJPW, I am shit scared of seeing any wrestling style heading the way that it did. It shortened lives and it sort of stopped being the full story telling thing. Its almost the way that I can see Indy wrestling heading with the risks that they take to get noticed going up.

 

[Bernkastel]

I just realised something, as much as I love 90s AJPW, I am shit scared of seeing any wrestling style heading the way that it did. It shortened lives and it sort of stopped being the full story telling thing. Its almost the way that I can see Indy wrestling heading with the risks that they take to get noticed going up.

It's only natural that something like that would happen in the Indy's. WWE regulates how far their workers get to go on their quests to entertain, but on the Indy circuit that's mostly unregulated and I've seen some of the most ridiculous stuff imaginable. When fans get tired of seeing 630 sentons and reverse inverted piledrivers and table spots, where exactly do you go?

 

[Shadowmancer]

Fans criticize the living fuck out of Cena but love Tanahashi and it's painfully hypocritical.

This may just be me but I find Cena to be slightly disingenuous in the things he says and does, If reading the things that I have seen of Tana, including translated parts of his book, he seems like he earnestly believes in the things he is saying. It also helps that Tana works in a place where he has active competition for being the best and he is kept away from him for quite a bit of time. That match against Nakamura in the Finals was the first time in about a year that they had matched up against each other, with Cena all of his opponents are played out within a short amount of time and the match structure doesn't seem to deviate much. You would also never see Cena have a comedy match against a Santino and a straight down drag knuckles beat the shit out of each other match the week against someone else.

 

[BaconBits]

A.J. Styles is the best wrestler of all time.

John Cena and Roman Reigns suck.

Also, the Bullet Club is the best stable in the history of wrestling. And the Young Bucks are an amazing tag team who keeps me more entertained than any other team in the WWE. I'm a proud fan of Superkick Nation and the Biz Kliz.

Man, I almost cut myself on all that edge.

 

[Papa Pillman]

How's this one for you guys(we know I'd eventually need to join in)...

The "fighting spirit" exchanges, non-traditional selling habits, and constant stiffing of each other that goes on in NJPW and other puro and North American indie feds, that was being shit on early in this thread, looks far more real and is far more believable as something that happens in a real non-worked sport fight than any of the watered down, cartoony, half-delivered, insultingly over-protecting bullshit that typically happens in a WWE ring. Period.

You people would be the ones who would watch an MMA fight with long stiff striking exchanges that both men stand up to, even giant strong skilled strikers like Junior Dos Santos against Roy Nelson for a (maybe bad) example, and tell me that it looks fake because they aren't selling the shots.


Here's another(related): If Tomohiro Ishii is not the best "seller" in the sport, he's in the top one percent of the top one percent of guys in high level promotions. And if you don't think so then its your interpretation of how a guy should sell that is flawed.

 

[klunderbunker]

How's this one for you guys(we know I'd eventually need to join in)...

The "fighting spirit" exchanges, non-traditional selling habits, and constant stiffing of each other that goes on in NJPW and other puro and North American indie feds, that was being shit on early in this thread, looks far more real and is far more believable as something that happens in a real non-worked sport fight than any of the watered down, cartoony, half-delivered, insultingly over-protecting bullshit that typically happens in a WWE ring. Period.

If I want to see something real and realistic, why in the world am I watching pro wrestling?

 

[Papa Pillman]

If I want to see something real and realistic, why in the world am I watching pro wrestling?

That's a fair point. But you and I watch pro wrestling for different reasons. The stories and theatrics that occur outside of a match are far more important to you than they are to me. To me all of that is a little bit of icing to make me care about a match more, but the match itself will always be the reason I watch. I watch professional wrestling because i am a fan of fight sports, and the staged nature of the sport insure that it is the fight sport that most consistently delivers quality matches(at least when done in the style I want to see).