Wrestling Opinions You Don't Have the Guts to Post

[Dowdsy McDowds]

Finn Balor's finisher is awful, as is any other stompy shite.

TNA's tag division when it had AMW, The Naturals, Team Canada et al is the most enjoyable era for tag team wrestling.

 

[Spidey Revivey]

I'll take the opinion of an old businessman like Vince over some guy on the internet sore over his favorite not winning any day.

 

[Crocker]

Why is it such a shock I prefer Cena? He's the better professional wrestler, he cuts far better promos and well he's just more entertaining. I think the majority of WWE fans would agree.

Daniel Bryan is the better wrestler and has a more interesting character.. Sure Cena has better mic skills but his character is stale and redundant. We haven't seen that many legit underdogs before. The majority of WWE fans wouldn't agree why do you think half of them boo Cena to death?

 

[Crocker]

I'll take the opinion of an old businessman like Vince over some guy on the internet sore over his favorite not winning any day.

An old man who changes the script of Raw 10+ times right before the show starts and even DURING the show? I think you're highly overrating Vince. Sure he was a good businessman before, but hes getting old now

 

[Uncle Sam]

Finn Balor's finisher is awful, as is any other stompy shite.

The man can do a spinning brainbuster and yet that's not his finish!

 

[nightmare]

Rey Mysterio was never a good wrestler.

95% of his career is un-memorable to me. When I hear his name I think of how much better Eddie was than him & the time Nash threw him into the side of a trailer on Nitro. Other than that I never really gave a shit.

Finn Balor's finisher is awful, as is any other stompy shite.

Good god yes. I am down with him, but man I hate it when people use that move.

 

[Spidey Revivey]

An old man who changes the script of Raw 10+ times right before the show starts and even DURING the show? I think you're highly overrating Vince. Sure he was a good businessman before, but hes getting old now

That's irrelevant if he manages to keep running a successful business, don't you think?

And that's not overrating him, contrasting him with some random viewer who bitches online on the reg.

 

[Uncle Sam]

95% of his career is un-memorable to me. When I hear his name I think of how much better Eddie was than him & the time Nash threw him into the side of a trailer on Nitro. Other than that I never really gave a shit.

Lots of lads burning bridges in this thread. Guess that's the point.

 

[Crocker]

That's irrelevant if he manages to keep running a successful business, don't you think?

And that's not overrating him, contrasting him with some random viewer who bitches online on the reg.

The business is still successful because wrestling has one of the most loyal fanbases and because of past successes.. if he keeps making bad booking decisions, then who knows whats going to happen in 5-10 years? Ratings are at an all time low.. WWE network isn't as successful as they want it to be

 

[BaconBits]

The business is still successful because wrestling has one of the most loyal fanbases and because of past successes.. if he keeps making bad booking decisions, then who knows whats going to happen in 5-10 years? Ratings are at an all time low.. WWE network isn't as successful as they want it to be

You are such a cliché.

 

[Spidey Revivey]

The business is still successful because wrestling has one of the most loyal fanbases and because of past successes.. if he keeps making bad booking decisions, then who knows whats going to happen in 5-10 years? Ratings are at an all time low.. WWE network isn't as successful as they want it to be

You know you're grasping at straws when you play Crocker The Fortune Teller. WWE could do a lot of things in that time: go under, be more popular than the NFL, become sentient, etc. There's no way of knowing. What I do know is Vince has a better handle on his business than some keyboard monkey who feels offended his tv show isn't doing what he wants it to.

 

[Dowdsy McDowds]

The man can do a spinning brainbuster and yet that's not his finish!

Good god yes. I am down with him, but man I hate it when people use that move.

I've maybe only seen 3 or 4 of his matches and he's obviously a talented dude but it's such an anti-climactic finisher. The first time he did it then got a pin I genuinely thought the ref had fucked up.

Rhyno had some of the best matches in the Invasion angle.

Kenny Dykstra's guillotine leg drop was a beautiful finisher.

Undertaker should have retired after the first HBK match at Mania.

 

[Bernkastel]

Kane should have ended the Streak at Mania 14.

 

[Crocker]

You know you're grasping at straws when you play Crocker The Fortune Teller. WWE could do a lot of things in that time: go under, be more popular than the NFL, become sentient, etc. There's no way of knowing. What I do know is Vince has a better handle on his business than some keyboard monkey who feels offended his tv show isn't doing what he wants it to.

Wow you're trying REALLY hard to be optimistic aren't you?

 

[Poop Master Flex]

Dr. D Dave Shultz is quite possibly the best heel I've ever seen.

 

[Spidey Revivey]

Wow you're trying REALLY hard to be optimistic aren't you?

Going with the guy who made millions off of a company instead of a group of whiners without said millions just sounds like the smarter move. But sure, let's call it optimism.

 

[Cereal Killer]

Daniel Bryan is the better wrestler and has a more interesting character..

Gah you're one of those.

Read this: http://forums.wrestlezone.com/showpost.php?p=5191079&postcount=70

Sure Cena has better mic skills but his character is stale and redundant.

Yet he's the biggest draw they've had in years.

We haven't seen that many legit underdogs before.

So Cena isn't? Sure, against Bryan, Punk, Rollins and almost everyone he's the favourite but he has been put in situations he's been the underdog such as his feud with Nexus or with Brock Lesnar. Besides, who even calls him an underdog in other situations?

The majority of WWE fans wouldn't agree why do you think half of them boo Cena to death?

Half? Mate, the "Cena sucks, bring back the attitude era and ROH provides the best wrestling in the world" fans only account for a small part of WWE's fanbase. Trust if it was as much as you think, I doubt Cena would be as popular as he currently is.

The business is still successful because wrestling has one of the most loyal fanbases and because of past successes.

Ridiculous. It's successful because people like it. Not because of their past. The WWE was thriving in the 80's nearly went out of business in the early part of the following decade. You're telling me fans only watch it because they liked it when they were 20 years younger? Why would they watch something they don't enjoy week after week?

Ratings are at an all time low..

Have you considered that this may be because you can now watch it online, record it and there are hundreds of TV channels now? Also there are more entertainment options than there have been before. I mean, the last episode of Friends got like 50 million views yet the "highest rated show ever," Breaking Bad got 10 million I believe.

WWE network isn't as successful as they want it to be.

Give it time. It's not like they were instantly going to get millions of subscribers.

 

[Crocker]

Going with the guy who made millions off of a company instead of a group of whiners without said millions just sounds like the smarter move. But sure, let's call it optimism.

Justin Bieber has a $200 million net worth. http://www.foodworldnews.com/articl...orld-s-ninth-powerful-celebrity-according.htm

Does that mean that hes a good singer? Not really.. he makes god awful music. Just like Vince, he isn't exactly the best businessman; he changes his mind 20 times during the show, has a fetish with terms like "backbreaker" (thats why he banned it), doesn't like first names for some reason (look at Antonio Cesaro, Adrian Neville, Alexander Rusev), etc.. I can go on and on. This guy is just out of touch. Just because he makes millions does not mean shit, just look at Bieber.

But sure keep being a WWE apologist and defending the old man.. instead of providing facts to support your argument, other than "Vince makes millions therefore hes a good businessman! and these internet complainers don't know anything about wrestling, so the product is fine!"

 

[Crocker]

Gah you're one of those.

Read this: http://forums.wrestlezone.com/showpost.php?p=5191079&postcount=70

Daniel Bryan is arguably better than Cena in some of these categories.. you must be delusional

Yet he's the biggest draw they've had in years.

Being the most entertaining and being the biggest draw are completely different things. Daniel Bryan is probably the most universally liked person on the roster. Have you ever seen ANYBODY boo him? Yet Cena is probably the bigger draw.. so yeah.. Just like Justin Bieber is probably the biggest draw in the music industry, doesn't make him the most entertaining though.

So Cena isn't? Sure, against Bryan, Punk, Rollins and almost everyone he's the favourite but he has been put in situations he's been the underdog such as his feud with Nexus or with Brock Lesnar. Besides, who even calls him an underdog in other situations?

Portraying him as an underdog is so insulting to the fans, against the Nexus especially. We all know how that would end.. Lesnar is a very rare exception, hes the strongest booked person of all time, don't even need to explain this. Everybody else hes faced hes been portrayed as an underdog (all the odds stacked against him) like when facing Bray Wyatt, Rusev, Ryback, Kane, etc..

Half? Mate, the "Cena sucks, bring back the attitude era and ROH provides the best wrestling in the world" fans only account for a small part of WWE's fanbase. Trust if it was as much as you think, I doubt Cena would be as popular as he currently is.

Hes not as popular as you think.. you need to listen to the crowd reactions bro.. EVERY SINGLE week we get these "Cena sucks".. so its a bigger portion than you think it is.

Ridiculous. It's successful because people like it. Not because of their past. The WWE was thriving in the 80's nearly went out of business in the early part of the following decade. You're telling me fans only watch it because they liked it when they were 20 years younger? Why would they watch something they don't enjoy week after week?

People watch it for nostalgia, to see whats going on in the product. They tune out if the product is bad. Its that simple.

Have you considered that this may be because you can now watch it online, record it and there are hundreds of TV channels now? Also there are more entertainment options than there have been before. I mean, the last episode of Friends got like 50 million views yet the "highest rated show ever," Breaking Bad got 10 million I believe.

Have you considered comparing WWE to other tv shows? Why do other tv shows get SO much higher ratings than WWE when they can stream any tv show? there are plenty of streams for shows like Breaking Bad, Walking Dead, etc, yet they still manage to gain 10+ million viewers. WWE averages 3.8 million viewers.

Give it time. It's not like they were instantly going to get millions of subscribers.

We'll see..

 

[Spidey Revivey]

Justin Bieber has a $200 million net worth. http://www.foodworldnews.com/articl...orld-s-ninth-powerful-celebrity-according.htm

Does that mean that hes a good singer? Not really.. he makes god awful music. Just like Vince, he isn't exactly the best businessman;

1. Look up what a logical fallacy is. It's what you're doing right here, and it holds absolutely no water. You only look stupid comparing Vince to something completely irrelevant.

2. Music is subjective. You may need to look up what subjective means, too.

Beiber wouldn't be making money if people didn't like his singing/Vince wouldn't be making money if people didn't like his wrestling program. Please argue that.

he changes his mind 20 times during the show, has a fetish with terms like "backbreaker" (thats why he banned it), doesn't like first names for some reason (look at Antonio Cesaro, Adrian Neville, Alexander Rusev), etc.. I can go on and on. This guy is just out of touch. Just because he makes millions does not mean shit, just look at Bieber.

You do realize the WWE has no off-season, no stunt-doubles, no Season Finale, and no editing a Live taping, correct? So what if he changes his mind mid-taping? Professional writers have fucked up many a television show to date. Yet WWE Raw continues to be watchable- otherwise someone like you wouldn't be in the LD every week, right?

But sure keep being a WWE apologist

Catchphrase!

and defending the old man.. instead of providing facts to support your argument, other than "Vince makes millions therefore hes a good businessman! and these internet complainers don't know anything about wrestling, so the product is fine!"

Vince hasn't went bankrupt. He has continued to deliver a weekly episodic television drama- something unheard of. But he is doing bad because you and a handful don't like his product that you make sure to tune in to.

Note how I never said I agreed with all of his decisions. But I'm smart enough to know when drama queens are being drama queens.



Here's another "gutsy" wrestling post:

The "Yes" Movement and the "Bad News" shtick were just repetitive drivel and we all ate it up.

 

[Cereal Killer]

Daniel Bryan is arguably better than Cena in some of these categories.. you must be delusional

Woah woah woah. So you say Bryan is ARGUABLY better than Cena in some of those categories and then you go on to say I'm delusional for thinking Cena is? You're the one saying it's arguable so why does that make me delusional?

Being the most entertaining and being the biggest draw are completely different things. Daniel Bryan is probably the most universally liked person on the roster. Have you ever seen ANYBODY boo him? Yet Cena is probably the bigger draw.. so yeah..

Well, if someone is a huge draw, it means they're putting butts into seats. If Cena is doing that better than anyone else, then he MUST be more entertaining than them. Why else is he the bigger draw?

Just like Justin Bieber is probably the biggest draw in the music industry, doesn't make him the most entertaining though.

Well not entertaining to you or myself, but he certainly is to a lot of others. Just because you may not enjoy his music, doesn't mean he's bad (maybe something I should put in that Facebook posts you don't have the balls to put on thread).

Portraying him as an underdog is so insulting to the fans, against the Nexus especially.

Well when he was alone, why is that so insulting? Think realistically, one guy vs eight men. Who wins?

Everybody else hes faced hes been portrayed as an underdog (all the odds stacked against him) like when facing Bray Wyatt, Rusev, Ryback, Kane, etc..

Who said he was the underdog in any of these encounters? Fair enough, maybe against Bray given that he had two beasts at his aid, but I don't recall anyone else calling him an underdog against Rusev, Ryback, Kane or anyone else. Were they tough challenges? Yep. Was he the favourite? Yep.

Hes not as popular as you think.. you need to listen to the crowd reactions bro.. EVERY SINGLE week we get these "Cena sucks".. so its a bigger portion than you think it is.

On multiple occasions, he's walked out there, got booed, cut an excellent promo or put on a heck of a match and walked out getting cheered.

People watch it for nostalgia, to see whats going on in the product. They tune out if the product is bad. Its that simple.

Exactly, yet ratings have remained fairly steady for quite a while and WWE has a huge following online.

Have you considered comparing WWE to other tv shows?
Why do other tv shows get SO much higher ratings than WWE when they can stream any tv show? there are plenty of streams for shows like Breaking Bad, Walking Dead, etc, yet they still manage to gain 10+ million viewers. WWE averages 3.8 million viewers.

Well yeah, there's no denying more watch Game of Thrones or whatever, but the WWE is still insanely popular and those shows you mentioned as well as RAW and Smackdown would definitely gain a lot more views if the factors I said weren't affecting them. Besides, WWE's annual revenue in recent years has been higher than it ever was.

We'll see..

 

[Bernkastel]

Justin Bieber has a $200 million net worth. http://www.foodworldnews.com/articl...orld-s-ninth-powerful-celebrity-according.htm

Does that mean that hes a good singer? Not really.. he makes god awful music. Just like Vince, he isn't exactly the best businessman; he changes his mind 20 times during the show, has a fetish with terms like "backbreaker" (thats why he banned it), doesn't like first names for some reason (look at Antonio Cesaro, Adrian Neville, Alexander Rusev), etc.. I can go on and on. This guy is just out of touch. Just because he makes millions does not mean shit, just look at Bieber.

But sure keep being a WWE apologist and defending the old man.. instead of providing facts to support your argument, other than "Vince makes millions therefore hes a good businessman! and these internet complainers don't know anything about wrestling, so the product is fine!"

@ comparing the music industry to the pro wrestling industry. The music industry has many different genres, many different styles, and cater to many different types of fans.

The pro wrestling industry in the Northeast has one type of style [sports entertainment] which may have many types of alternatives but all of them cater to one type of fan. An 8 year old and a 15 year old are no different type of fan than a 27 year old or a 50 year old.

 

[Richard Blonoff]

Stop arguing and go back to posting bad opinions damnit.

 

[#MrScissorsKick]

Dynamite Kid is and always was an asshole in and out of the ring.

Piper's "Hot Rod" shirt looked insanely better than Hogans "Hulkamania" shirt.

Sandow's early gimmick of the Intellectual Savior drew me in at a moment's notice.

I actually don't mind Byron Saxon on commentary. It could be much worse.

I find Mickie James to be quite overrated. I didn't say she doesn't have talent, she just does nothing to interest me.

JoJo is hot.

I don't understand the fandom of DDP. He was cool, but didn't connect to me.

 

[Барбоса]

Lots of lads burning bridges in this thread. Guess that's the point.

No love for me anymore?