Wrestling Opinions You Don't Have the Guts to Post

[Shadowmancer]

Ishii makes you question whether he is actually hurt, that spot he did with Elgin on Day 18 was insane, and you have to wonder how he wasn't injured

 

[klunderbunker]

That's a fair point. But you and I watch pro wrestling for different reasons. The stories and theatrics that occur outside of a match are far more important to you than they are to me. To me all of that is a little bit of icing to make me care about a match more, but the match itself will always be the reason I watch. I watch professional wrestling because i am a fan of fight sports, and the staged nature of the sport insure that it is the fight sport that most consistently delivers quality matches(at least when done in the style I want to see).

I can go with that.

 

[Papa Pillman]

I just realised something, as much as I love 90s AJPW, I am shit scared of seeing any wrestling style heading the way that it did. It shortened lives and it sort of stopped being the full story telling thing. Its almost the way that I can see Indy wrestling heading with the risks that they take to get noticed going up.

I don't care about the "life shortening" stuff, the wrestlers know the risks. Boxing and American football shorten lifespans too.

As for the storytelling point, I'd love to hear why you feel that way. I always thought that King's Road was the ultimate example of pro wrestling storytelling, each match had a clear arch, and each match made use of longterm story elements between the specific wrestlers involved as well, as the moves and reversals used always gave a nod to former matches between the competitors, creating in-ring stories that would build for years.

 

[Shadowmancer]

I don't care about the "life shortening" stuff, the wrestlers know the risks. Boxing and American football shorten lifespans too.

As for the storytelling point, I'd love to hear why you feel that way. I always thought that King's Road was the ultimate example of pro wrestling storytelling, each match had a clear arch, and each match made use of longterm story elements between the specific wrestlers involved as well, as the moves and reversals used always gave a nod to former matches between the competitors, creating in-ring stories that would build for years.

after about 96 Kings Road, it became big move spam, its where the head drops started to get excessive. The crowd didn't give a shit until about 20 minutes into the match, people became desensitized to the match, it became a top this type thing and they were getting to the point of the only way to top it was to paralyse someone or to have someone die.

 

[Papa Pillman]

after about 96 Kings Road, it became big move spam, its where the head drops started to get excessive. The crowd didn't give a shit until about 20 minutes into the match, people became desensitized to the match, it became a top this type thing and they were getting to the point of the only way to top it was to paralyse someone or to have someone die.

I get where you're coming from about crowds getting desensitized to match endings, but I feel that is the nature of the beast anytime a promotion has the same set of preeminent stars on top for an extended period of time. Its the same reason why we never expect a pinfall on the first AA of any Cena match anymore(or the first High-Fly-Flow of a Tanahashi match to extend the analogy).

 

[The Holy One]

This may just be me but I find Cena to be slightly disingenuous in the things he says and does, If reading the things that I have seen of Tana, including translated parts of his book, he seems like he earnestly believes in the things he is saying. It also helps that Tana works in a place where he has active competition for being the best and he is kept away from him for quite a bit of time. That match against Nakamura in the Finals was the first time in about a year that they had matched up against each other, with Cena all of his opponents are played out within a short amount of time and the match structure doesn't seem to deviate much. You would also never see Cena have a comedy match against a Santino and a straight down drag knuckles beat the shit out of each other match the week against someone else.

This is a slight bump, but I wanted to respond to this post. I've never understood why people feel Cena is transparent about who he is in real life when evidence has never once shown that to be true. I once met John in a bar (was shocked that he was there as the place isn't really a popular spot) and the dude just chatted with pretty much everyone who approached him without once being a douche when he had every right to be. I feel all the charities, goodwill events, and acts of kindness that he does is truly what he is.

And the NJPW main event scene is way more condense than WWE's as it's been a nonstop cycle of Okada, Tanahashi, Nakamura, and leader of the Bullet Club (Styles/Devitt) for the past few years. In that similar time frame: Cena, Punk, Bryan, Orton, Rollins, Lesnar, Reigns, Ambrose, Wyatt, Kane, and Big Show have all shared the main event spotlight. In fact, the one time NJPW tried to do something than the usual (Wrestle Kingdom 8), the fans shit on it in favor of the Japanese equivalent of Cena/Orton.

 

[yourdamnluck]

I hate the concept of a guy not being "READY". It has been overused by IWC too much. I don't like people analyzing wrestling and being sort of wrestling intellectuals. It should just be about fun. A bunch of people dressed up and playing make believe.

 

[BringThePain834]

Eva's stupidity in the ring and Total Divas, being a botchfest and horrible on the mic is actually starting to become entertaining

 

[Барбоса]

The Angle/Anderson cage match is average.

 

[Deoxyribonucleic A.C.I.D.]

Dean Ambrose is overrated. His mic skills are good, but his in-ring is meeh. Once he was Shield's #1, now he's #3. I blame the WWE for that, but I don't think he's top guy of the company material, nor that he's the Austin of this era as many people think.

Roman Reigns has grown a lot since 'Mania. People who boo him are killing the company and are idiots.

Lesnar and Cena are head & shoulders above everyone else.

Rollins is a weak champion, drawing wise, but still, he's the most deserving one.

People who hate fantasy matches like Rock vs Brock or Rock vs HHH, or people that hated Cena vs Rock, but want to see Sting vs Undertaker are fucking hypocrites.

 

[Stone Cold Tea]

Vince is right about Cesaro. He is boring. He can wrestle but has no personality. He's a modern day Lance Storm

 

[Fire Marshall Bill]

Vince is right about Cesaro. He is boring. He can wrestle but has no personality. He's a modern day Lance Storm

I've been saying this for a long time now.

This thread doesn't seem to be anything along the lines of afraid to post. A lot of it is turning into "against the norm of the IWC."

 

[Stone Cold Tea]

I've been saying this for a long time now.

This thread doesn't seem to be anything along the lines of afraid to post. A lot of it is turning into "against the norm of the IWC."

I thought I was about to see why I didn't have the guts to post it when I saw you'd quoted me.

I agree with you there. It's like anything in the world though. Eventually people turn on it. For example there is a Facebook page called 'The LadBible' which has millions of followers. One of it's main 'Things' is banter. Now 4 or 5 years ago people loved it but ever so slowly over the last year or 2 I have noticed people turn on 'The LadBible' and it's banter.

 

[Uncle Sam]

Probably because The Lad Bible plagiarises most of its posts and perpetuates a bunch of sexist bullshit.

Such lads. Much banter. So geeze.

 

[Fire Marshall Bill]

I've always felt that way about Cesaro. He never had a personality worth noting.

 

[Stone Cold Tea]

Probably because The Lad Bible plagiarises most of its posts and perpetuates a bunch of sexist bullshit.

Such lads. Much banter. So geeze.

The thing is that is what they did from day one. They aren't a proper news outlet they're a facebook page and yet people expect BBC standard news from them.

 

[Mighty NorCal]

The Angle/Anderson cage match is average.

NO THE FUCK YOU DIDNT




Lot of bridges being burned in this thread.

 

[A11oftheLights]

Probably because The Lad Bible plagiarises most of its posts and perpetuates a bunch of sexist bullshit.

Such lads. Much banter. So geeze.

4 or 5 years ago wasnt Lad Bible just regular facebook status that were about going out with mates and having a good time (sure there was probably a sexist element to it) and now they basically post click-bait articles or promote tv, games and movies along with opinion pieces that ignore the other side of the argument completely and are usually constructed to make it appear like someone is committing a crime against humanity.

As for wrestling opinions
Foreigners should be heels, they dont work as faces (obviously some exceptions) because american crowds find it harder to relate to them due to their blind patriotism and its so easy to get the face over with the crowd by playing the foreign invader who hates america card. I mean look how over Swagger was when they first started the feud with Rusev, once he was crushed (lol) it was all over. I honestly believe that Swagger could have been built up as a monster face and then potentially become a main-event star had he gone over Rusev and been booked properly from there.

 

[Miko]

Say what you want about Shawn Michaels being a diva or a priss or a cunt, but she's still one of the best female wrestlers ever

 

[Барбоса]

NO THE FUCK YOU DIDNT




Lot of bridges being burned in this thread.

What can I say? I downloaded it based on the rave reviews it was getting and was thoroughly underwhelmed.

Even mid card WWE cage matches that involved X-Pac entertained me more.

 

[BaconBits]

Say what you want about Shawn Michaels being a diva or a priss or a cunt, but she's still one of the best female wrestlers ever

He's no John Morrison, though.

 

[Miko]

He's no John Morrison, though.

Thats true, Morrison's a classy chick

 

[The Fabulous Rougeau's]

Outside of the stupid cartoony gimmicks Vince tried to get over 95 and 96 WWE was pretty good. Outside of Mable there was no one during that time in the main event or upper mid card that missed the mark. Guys like Bret, Shawn, Diesel, Razor, Austin, Vader, Taker, Goldust, Mankind, Ahmed and Sid all worked around this time.

 

[Kris Benwa]

John Cena is arguably the GOAT and probably will be by time he retires.

 

[Kris Benwa]

Also Rocky is one of the most overrated pro wrestlers ever. Sure, he's an all time great, but I wouldn't put him on the radar when discussing the very best of the all time greats.

My opinion is that The Rock is the GOAT but I may be brainwashed because I just watched his DVD though