Would it really be a bad thing?

[thewrestlinghero]

I was just wondering since John Cena just lost his newly won wwe championship to Randy Orton at Hell In The Cell. Would it really be a bad thing if he actually won it back in like 5 months and have a long title reign.

The belt really does not mean as much as it did in 2007 2008 when he actually held the belt and in my opinion the Intercontinental and United states and Ecw world title mean way more then it. Because the simple fact that they are really not flipped around every 2 weeks or 2 months like the wwe title is.

I mean eventually the wwe creative team is going to need to figure out a way to make that belt seem important again. If they don't do something soon to bring back its prestige which some can argue that the prestige was lost a long time ago it wont mean anything and when the young stars or new champions like Jack Swagger The Miz or even the money in the bank winner who ever that maybe is wins it wont mean as much as it did for stars like a Jeff hardy Randy Orton etc.


I mean it does not need to be John cena it can be randy Orton or hell it can even be triple h even though the iwc hates those wrestlers in the main event.

So what do you think wwe creative should do to make that belt mean something again should they give stars like randy Orton or John cena a real long run with it and ignored all the fans like they usually do until the belt means something again. Or should they get a rising a star like Evan bourne win it right off the bat.

 

[Hillmania]

Cena is winning it back in under a month. There's no way Cena is going to Smackdown right after Batista was moved there.

That being said, a long Cena title reign would not be bad right now. The WWE needs it. BUT he has to be able to concede a match or two. WWE can't build an entire program around the basic Cena story line. He gets attacked for no reason, he challenges them with some drawn out hyperbole, then he wins the match, says he'll fight in a rematch anytime, wins the rematch, gets attacked again, and wins the third match with NO new story to it as time goes on. Cena is a great champion, but his most intriguing feud in a while was with the Miz, and we all know how that turned out.

In summation, yes, we need another long title reign, but please keep giving the illusion that the title change can happen at any time.

 

[johnnyblaze3:16]

they need to pick someone to go on at least a 6 month title run to bring back some prestige, they should do KOTR (mid card champs only) winner gets to be king and a title shot wwe/whc who ever holds it we need a dominat champ my guess is that when edge comes back he'll be face and get the strap back for a run. what about kofi/orton? that would be a great match. if cena looses and goes to smackdown i think cm punk'll come to raw cause he's not gonna beat taker.

 

[FromTheSouth]

I think Randy Orton should have the long reign. I think month after month of Orton winning against Cena, HHH, HBK, Mark Henry, and whomever comes over in the next draft would be better to watch. For one, it allows for about a million storylines, culminating with the break up of Legacy, and Ted DiBiase ending the reign.

There are more faces ready to jump up then there are heels. I know that everyone thinks Swagger should be main eventing, but he's only been around a year, he's no Brock Lesnar, and needs to practice on the mic. He's getting better, but his mic skills, nor his finisher, are main event quality. You could run months of Orton winning until Teddy wins the MitB match at Wrestlemania. He could hold onto the case for almost the whole year while Orton goes through opponent after opponent. When it's getting close to expiring, DiBiase could cash it in, preferably after getting tired of Orton's taking advantage of him earlier in the same show.

BUT....if they give Cena a long reign, something needs to happen. First of all, he needs to lose now and then in non title matches. During his last long reign, I think he lost three or four times that whole 13 months. Secondly, he needs to get overpowered sometimes. We get it, he's strong, now make it look like his reign is in danger. His reign never looked in danger until the end last time. Third, you should turn him at the end, even if it's brief. The last three of four months need to have John Cena revolting against the fans. He could shoot in the internet fans, or just say that he's tired of the kids, he'd rather have their moms. I don't care, but if you keep him face in that long of a reign, it gets stale. Faces are always better chasing the champ then they are being the champ.

(I am not in favor of turning Cena under any other circumstances.)

 

[samboisdead]

I agree someone needs a long title reign to restore prestige to the title but I think on Raw it needs to be a heel just for the fact that I dont think Cena holding it forever is going to help much. On Smackdown they have the perfect guy. Let Undertaker go on an unstoppable run and when he finally drops it let it be to soemone like Morrison who has never had one before.

 

[Southwind]

It's just that if Cena wins who does he feud with ? Swagger is not ready he will be but I see Dibiase being ready before him but guess what Dibiase will be a face that's the problem.

When Cena had his long reign there was Edge, Angle, Orton, Umaga, and probably lots more I'm forgetting point is there was options now the only heel on raw that is even close to to the main event is Orton. Who knows what will happen all I know is that while I actually like Cena unlike most at first he was tiresome but then he grew on me. I really don't want to see him in face vs. face feuds against Trips and HBK because if Cena wins and Orton can't get a rematch that's the only two guys he can face.

 

[Borgata]

I'm hoping Jericho can get the belt and build to face Edge at WM26.

 

[JBK2008]

Creative needs to put the focus of the feuds on the championship and the championship only. There's too much drama and hatred between superstars usually that they don't even mention the title until the very last minute. They may say they want to be the champion, but then it all goes back to I hate you and I'm going to destroy you gig. HHH vs Orton this year got very personal and at various points, all focus was off the WWE Championship. Same with Orton vs Cena. It got so brutal leading up to Breaking Point, you almost couldn't tell it was for the WWE Championship.

Some advice, put a younger guy into the mix, even if only for a month and claim he's hungry for the WWE Championship and have the feud focus on just that. It's worked in the mid card, so go that route for the top titles.

 

[HellsKeeper]

I believe a six to 10 month title run on both shows would help. Potentially i see Orton holding the title on Raw while they build up DiBiase or Rhodes (preferably DiBiase) as a face to take the title. Meanwhile, you can push some of the midcarders and even big time names to challenge orton, like MVP, Mark Henry, can I get a Kofi? And yeah, HBK and HHH too. On Smackdown, unfortunately, I see Batista holding the title for a while and seeing him lose it to someone surprising at WM26. I see him challenging Jericho for the title, and then maybe the MitB winner cashes it in right there for the surprising end to the show. Now that would be cool...

 

[ssvegita77]

I like the idea of a 3-4 month title reign as a minimum, with the occasional exception to spice things up and make things less predictable. I understand the WWE's plight right now in going w/ a PG rated product. I don't like it but I understand that we need to hook the next generation so they can grow up to be life long wrestling nerds (Like us!) The children are the future and a big part of the present. Think about it; Who buys the merch, begs Mom & Dad to buy every PPV, and when they go to a live event has to have said parents accompany them thus selling at least two tickets (often 3 or 4 if they have siblings)? Answer: The youngins; thats who.

Cena & Jeff Hardy are the big draws for the kids with Taker, Mysterio, and for some DX round out the top draws. One of those guys is gone, another is a failure as a world champ, another one has been so crammed down our throat that being booed out of the bldg is common place, another wants no part of being champion, leaving only two (kinda) viable options as a marketable world champ (Sadly they've already held about 20 titles between them).

The answer is this...you have to stop being afraid and turn Cena heel. Cena is good as a heel, really good. Switch the perspective and everything old is new again. You can even have him go half way with it. If you make his reasoning for the turn reasonable, he can be a tweener leaning toward the dark side. The WWE has to put themselves in a spot where they have to do something different. Necessity is the mother of invention, its sink or swim time. Vince has always found a way to swim...he will find it again. This is why the Attitude era worked, the competition with WCW made the WWE step up. Complacency is a lazy bitch.

Depending on where this thing with the Rock goes we can be on the verge of a Cena heel turn. It may just be wishful thinking but what if Cena came out and told the Rock to his face that he essentially thinks that he's a sell out? It wouldn't matter that Cena was actually right, the fans wouldn't stand for it. Enter the fastest heel turn since Hogan going NWO. More likely than not this is not gonna happen. However the rumor is that Rocky's gonna host Raw in early January? That's Royal Rumble time...build to Wrestlemania time... Dare we dream it?

 

[johnbragg]

The belt really does not mean as much as it did in 2007 2008...

How do you measure or justify this? I can see people arguing that a World title doesn't mean what it meant in the 1980's or early 90's when Hogan and Flair would have the title for years at a time. But two years ago? Sure, (I looked on wikipedia) Cena held the title for over a year, after finishing his epic feud of 2006 with Edge. Man, the WWE title ruled in 2007. I'll come back to this later.

and in my opinion the Intercontinental and United states and Ecw world title mean way more then it. Because the simple fact that they are really not flipped around every 2 weeks or 2 months like the wwe title is.

The US title means more than the WWE title right now. Ohhh, kay.

Let's compare the treatment the different titles get.

The WWE title is the focus of one of the two biggest feuds in the company, where the company's top face and top heel are doing everything they can to keep or take the title from the other. It's featured prominently on every Raw and main or co-main events every single PPV.

The US title, until this week on Raw, was held by Kofi Kingston since June 1. He retained a week later at Extreme Rules in a four-man seven minute curtain-jerker match. Next PPV a few weeks later was the Bash--no US title. At Night of Champions, a 6-man 8-minute match. At SummerSlam, MVP defeated Jack Swagger for the--oops, 2 midcarders in a nothing feud were more important than the US title, which wasn't on the card. Kofi defended at Breaking Point against the Miz and at HIAC against Miz and Swagger.

So, 6 pay per views, 2 times the title is ignored, 2 times they threw a multi-man short match together. Two times the title is defended against a logical challenger or challengers (Miz, Miz and Swagger.)

Gee, that sounds a lot better than the WWE title scene.

Look, the two biggest stars in the company are competing. Sometimes Cena wins, sometimes Orton wins, so title reigns aren't very long. Well, that's how a wrestling feud works, Jimmy. If Wrestler A always wins, then the feud has to end because, after a while, you get the idea that that even if he can come close, Wrestler B just can't beat Wrestler A. So you have to have Wrestler B win sometimes.

Quick, Sparky, who did Cena feud with in 2007 when the WWE title was Teh Awesome? And if you have to look it up, you're proving my point about feuds.

The IC title is booked stronger than the US title, but does anyone really kayfabe believe that if Morrison was offered a World title shot at Bragging Rights that he'd agree to vacate the IC title?

 

[Tastycles]

No, it wouldn't be a bad thing at all, and now is the perfect time for a John Cena mega reign. HHH and Michaels are in DX related feuds right now, which is perfect as it means that basically upper midcard heels can have a bash at short feuds with Cena, without it being weird that the face big names are out of the picture. After beating Orton, Cena could set about beating Big Show, The Miz, Swagger and even potentially Carlito and Swagger. The obvious problem is, is that while fine for monthly PPVs, there isn't really a high calibre there for the big PPVs. Not to worry though, because come WrestleMania, there could be a Royal Rumble winner, a returning star or even either of DXto fit the bill. It would be better if Raw had more than two main event level heels, but nonetheless, a long reign wouldn't be at all bad.