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It occured to me that he's been involved in the main event of every PPV (with SD on the card) since Survivor Series 2006.

He's held the title for the majority of this time. He's not a particularly great wrestler...his promos are OK. His character is again OK, but with nothing in particular that really stands out from it.

Don't get me wrong I don't hate Batista, I quite like him although in all honesty rather ambivolent towards him. So why he is he popular unlike Cena?
 
If Batista held the belt for a year beating guys like HBK in the process then I guess he would be hated like Cena, but then again I think only a small percent of fans boo cena for that reason.. it's the crowd mentality bandwagon effect.
 
Batista gets the crowd pumped more than Cena (his entrance is quite awesome I must admit). He doesn't hold onto the title for so long. He held it for along time in 2005 but back then he was better than Cena. He hasn't held the title for more than 4 months since then.

Unlike Cena, he hasn't ruined all suspense for Wrestlemania and PPV main events, and he isn't made to look like a superman over and over again, because unlike Cena, he, you know, actually loses title matches sometimes.

That being said, I still dislike him.
 
the reason why people love batista and never boo him is because he is a badass. he put on match and fued of the year with the undertaker. which cena can never do because you have to wrestle to put on a good match. he doesnt

suck vinces cock like cena. i would love to see cena v batista, the fans would destroy cena so bad he would walk out the ring crying. i challenge anyone to prove me wrong. hes not boring like cena and is actually a good wrestler for his size, unlike cena who also has tremendous strength but yet he gets injured be a hiptoss. this proves strength isnt everything.
 
I Hate Cena Very much, and I'll be honest with you about the answer
believe me even if batista is WWE Champion and even if he def. HHH & HBK
I will cheer for him and I give you 1 simple reason why I hate cena

Because He is Superman !

Batista is Magnificent.

batista's character is really good so does his storylines, when he's injured ...
HE IS INJURED ! .. he makes the fans get it !

unlike cena you can smash him with a chair 2 times and
beside you you're own referee, and oh my god you can't win !

I encourage you to watch 1 match to understand what I mean :

CENA VS. ANGLE - Survivor Series 2005
 
Um...as far as I know...a great deal of IWFs pretty much can't stand Batista either. I didn't think that was any kind of breaking news.

The only reason that heat for Batista would be down would be because Cena just came back and power-played into winning the Rumble. Furthermore, they put him in a situation where the Rumble winner doesn't go to Mania...but No Way Out. No Way Out? More like: NO FREAKING WAY. This is one of the great, most consistent and enduring traditions in WWE, and they took a big crap on it by stacking the Rumble and the EC on Raw. Smackdown sucks, but UT, Edge, and even Batista deserve a little more than Raw's scraps, IMO.
 
Haha, why doesn't anyone hate Batista. You need to look around these forums just a little more before opening this thread. If there is one person the IWC hates more then John Cena, is the over hyped, absolutely zero talented, buddies with the Bosses Son In Law piece of Shit Craptista, Or Big Dave Dudd, or pretty much any other derogatory wording we can throw his way.

Batista is terrible, beyond terrible. He has only been in two good feuds, one with the Undertaker, and only managed to get one good match out of a feud with Triple H, and even the value of that Cell match is in question in my opinion.

Batista is a cocky, arrogant asshole taht thinks he knows the business, when really, he knows what he is told to know. To say that a guy like AJ Styles is terrible because his matches are "glorified car wrecks" and not story telling, yet Batista goes out and blows his back when he lands on the mat and misses a year, is ridiculous.

Seriously, this board hates Batista, and the Craptista love train will probably be making a stop in here before too long. The only reason we're not shitting on Batista is because Cena is back, and that seems to have gotten the anger out of everyone.
 
I think it'sdue to the fact that WWE makes him a "mortal" meaning he actually looses matches, title matches included. When he gets hit by a finisher he's down for more then 10 seconds when it's later in the match. He doesn't take chair shots to the head and stand there like he's the next hogan. No he falls to his knees, then the rest of the way on the next hit. Cena has been made to look like an "immortal" in the buisness. He's lost what 3 matches over the course of 2 years? I just think people get bored of seeing the same thing over and over again. Batista matches you don't know what's going to happen. Cena matches are called even before they begin...
 
Batista isnt hated like Cna because when he was Champ he lost it to good people such as Taker Edge ..... Cena never lost the belt to goods on raw like HBK .........Cena never puts top stars on top cause he wins..and Batista on the other end takes the fall.....
 
Firstly a point that needs to be made, personally character wise Batista is bland and at least Cena has one, although it needs a tweak. I think Batista is average in the ring and Cena is similair, but JC has a personality that really comes over. Also Cena's workrate is unrivalled, he carried the company for nearly 3 years and wrestled through any injuries he had, now he's recovered from a serious injury pretty damn quickly, wasn't Kennedy out like 6 months with a less serious pec injury? Personally I don't care for Cena's character but I like him as a man, Batista irritates me, as a character, and as a person when I've seen him outside of ring/in interviews etc.
 
Batista hasn't headlined the last three Wrestlemanias like Cena has i.e. Hulk Hogan. I mean, come on. This isn't 1990. It's 2008, and the business and fanbase has changed and grown up in the last 18 years. When Cena won the Rumble on Sunday, I nudged the guys next to me and said, "Wrestlemania IX." That might have worked back in the day, but such undeserved power-plays aren't going to fly in this day and age. This was clear when Cena got booed out of Philly last night.

But let's face it, Batista still leaves much to desire.
 
Batista is shit thats all there is to it

the man has no skill whatsoever, at least IMO. and to compare him to Cena is crap utter crap John Cena goes out every night works his ass off and constantly deers good PPV matches while Batista gets by size alone and the fact that hes got HHH in his corner. John Cena cares so much about the buisness and will do anything for the fans while Batista wont even acknowledge them at autograph signings or anything, Batista sucks and is hated and rightfully so. the mans a dick has no passion for the buisness and cant wrestle, might as well cut him loose now hes terrible
 
Batistia sucks plain and simple as he is not agile nor can he work a mic, but to get the reason why Batista seems to be less hated than Cena in arena is for the simple fact he does lose matches and title matches. Though he is hated because from Aug 06 to Dec 07 he was in the main event for Smackdown ever PPV. Seems like that can get a guy hated especially when he is pure shit in the ring. He can work a good match giving the right person like taker, but of not his matches are short and quite boring. In all Batista is hated just as much as Cena, but what helps Batista is that he is not on the "A" show RAW like Cena is and was not a champion for over a year
 
Batista actually puts people over. He had a few matches with Elijah Burke awhile bak and I must admit they both made each other look good. Cena is too much of an always win, I do what makes me look best, boy scout. We all knew those kids back in school, the ones who always did the right thing and thought they were better than you for doing it (in their eyes). The rap/marine gimmick doesn't fool anyone. Everyone hates Cena because he is conceded. Batista is mortal and you feel like he is thankful to the business. I just get this feeling (and I hope I am right) that Cena is using wrestling for a stepping stone.
 
Batista actually puts people over. He had a few matches with Elijah Burke awhile bak and I must admit they both made each other look good. Cena is too much of an always win, I do what makes me look best, boy scout. We all knew those kids back in school, the ones who always did the right thing and thought they were better than you for doing it (in their eyes). The rap/marine gimmick doesn't fool anyone. Everyone hates Cena because he is conceded. Batista is mortal and you feel like he is thankful to the business. I just get this feeling (and I hope I am right) that Cena is using wrestling for a stepping stone.

The Bold: Where oh where has batista ever given the impression that he is grateful for being in the business. The guy slanders and slams everyone he gets a chance at. Hell, the guy did nothing but bash Smackdown before he went to it, he since has shut his mouth. The guy is terrible.

The Underline: Yup, since everything that Cena has said in any interview that he is given in and out of the business that he is WWE through and through. He's not liek the Rock, who never wanted to be in the business. He is the son of a promoter, he grew up in the WWE's backyard. Cena is by far the best guy in the ring, but out of it, his track record is spotless.
 
Batista actually puts people over. He had a few matches with Elijah Burke awhile bak and I must admit they both made each other look good. Cena is too much of an always win, I do what makes me look best, boy scout. We all knew those kids back in school, the ones who always did the right thing and thought they were better than you for doing it (in their eyes). The rap/marine gimmick doesn't fool anyone. Everyone hates Cena because he is conceded. Batista is mortal and you feel like he is thankful to the business. I just get this feeling (and I hope I am right) that Cena is using wrestling for a stepping stone.

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this makes no sense

John Cena was given this huge push and whose gonna turn that down, and its not his choice whether he jobs or not so that really makes no sense. John Cena gives all his dedication to the buisness and deserves to be in a high profile position(not the one hes in) but a big position nonetheless. Batista has no passion for what he does he just like I said earlier gets by one size and friends in high places, he relys on past accomplishments and doesnt do anything to better himself while Cena is always working to improve himself in any way
 
im kinda sick of seeing batista in the main event every smackdown ppv. but batista's the man and hes a good wrestler unlike cena. he puts up good matches and does pump the crowd up.
 
To be honest, I don't like niether Cena or Batista, they both can't wreste and are boring in the ring. The reason I hate them so much is because there overated, have no mic skills, and are the reasons why I don't watch RAW or Smackdown anymore. Cena ruined everythig when he came back, RAW just isn't fun too watch anymore thanks to that bastard. But I don't wanna turn this into a "Cena hate" threard so I'll get back on topic. Althugh Batista doesn't get booed in arenas like Cena does, IMO i think Batista is just as much hated as John Kena is.
 
The only reason I can think of as a spectator is that John Cena is over-pushed. I think there was a time when Triple H was the World Heavyweight Champion for a long time and people were pissed about that too. If you get a little deeper with the analysis, people will probably talk about Cena being talentless in the ring. I don't find Cena bad though, even if I understand the heat that his 'overrated' rank receives.

Now, as for Batista. From everything that I've heard of the guy, it gives me the impression that he's really an arrogant and condescending prick backstage. In other words, he's ignorant and unprofessional. On top of that, he's not a great wrestler and he's boring on the mic. That makes me hate him more than John Cena.
 
Interesting question. I've wondered that myself, and came up with this;
Cena is far better than Batista, has far more potential and is a far more entertaining character. Both were pushed too soon, in the opinion of many fans. But where most of them don't care about Batista, they realy like Cena, but hate the position he's in. If Cena wasn't the superhero esque champion and he wasn't crammed down the fans throats, they probibly wouldn't boo him.
To Summarise;
People hate the position Cena's in. Not Cena himself.
And the fans that 'hate' Cena (above), don't care enough about Batista to Boo or Cheer.

Confussed?
 
Im just wandering, Why are most of you guys on these boards SO obsessed with hating on wrestlers, when it's not their fault their getting pushed, its the writers who decide who wins and who loses. Its the writers who write the scripts and promos. The wrestlers just go out there and do what they're told.
I mean do you really think Batista/John Cena would've TURNED DOWN the script, and been like "No, I dont wanna be in the main events, I dont want to win the Royal Rumble, I dont wanna be the most popular superstar on the roster, I dont want to win the Title. Someone like Shelton or Matt Hardy should be pushed before me...."

Seriously. Come on now. Do you REALLY think they would say that?




OT: If you were gonna give the WWE an enema, you should stick the hose right here, in these forums.....lol, just had to throw that in there
 
I'd say the three people that are both loved and hated the most, in general, are Cena, Batista, and Triple H, for the following reasons:

1. Too much time devoted to them. Cena wins in this category. This past year, nearly everyone on Raw had to take a backseat because it became "the John Cena show". Batista gets this directed at him because of how often he's involved in the title scene, which is annoying. Triple H gets this because he's virtually never taking the low road. If there's a chance for him to be in the main event, you bet your ass he's in there.

2. Immortality. Batista is the least involved in this. They make him seem like a tough guy, but they've even had him being beaten by MVP and such. He's "immortal" to the lower guys on the roster, but otherwise not. Triple H recently made Snitsky, Mark Henry, Umaga, and others look like chump change despite how the WWE wanted to make them monsters. John Cena does the same thing. They try to make the rules "if its Cena or Triple H, it doesn't matter, because its them". They wouldn't think twice about having the two of those go through 90% of the entire WWE's roster on all 3 shows combined.

3. Character. For the most part, people like Triple H's character, especially when he's involved in a DX segment. However, Cena is far too demanding, and it feels like he's trying to get a pop with every word he says. Look at his segment on Raw the other day. He nearly cried when he was being booed after ever sentence that was structured with exclamation points, hoping that it would receive a loud roaring cheer. Cena ends up being the "public spectacle" type of kid who you feel is trying too hard for attention. Batista, on the other hand, is hated because he has a total lack of character. The guy comes out, smacks himself on the chest a few times, and that's it.

4. Moveset. Easily, Triple H has most versatile set of moves. Cena and Batista are both criticized for having a limited amount, and its justified I think. Though Cena COULD do more than Batista, it seems he's too stubborn to want to try to go outside the box. He might've hit a comfort niche and is too afraid to try anything new, despite people like HBK who is past his prime but he's now adding submission moves to his arsenal (but comparing Cena to HBK is like comparing leftovers to a buffet).


All in all, I think the only reason Batista isn't hated as much as Cena is because of the fact that Cena's there along with Triple H. If someone's in the spotlight, they're going to receive criticism (Orton when he won the title, Hardy now that he's receiving a push, etc). However, Triple H receives a lot of heat for his backstage politics, Cena receives a lot of heat for being given an aura of invincibility and over-importance, and that takes some of the heat off Batista as people are more prone to argue about the two that are shoved in their face more often. Look at this year's Royal Rumble. These three were the final 3, and made they made it look like Kane and Umaga were worthless. Then, Batista is eliminated, and the spotlight goes to Cena and Triple H. Batista is clearly the bronze medal to the WWE, so there are 2 other people to take some of the bullets first. If Cena and Triple H weren't as controversial, Batista would be ripped to shreds even more than he is now.

This isn't in support or directly in offense to any of the 3 guys in particular. My personal opinion is that Cena and Batista aren't talented enough to be the top men in the company, and that they should be toned down a lot more. As for Triple H, he's talented enough to be a top guy, but he needs to look out for more than just himself, and then I'd respect him a little more - like I used to. So yeah, all three annoy me in ways and entertain me in other ways, but I never really get too heated about them unless they're trying to shove them down my throat.
 
I hate Batista more than I hate Cena he's a terrible wrestler his character is crap, He is really boring on the mic he is over pushed because he is friends with the bosses son in law Paul Michael AKA Triple H and he is a no good human being.

Batista's wrestling skill is terrible when was the last time you saw him do a proper wrestling move like a Suplex? I can't name one occasion because he can't I've seen him do clotheslines and power bombs but thats nothing special. Batista is a crappie in wring worker all together, he can't sell moves well at all every time he gets punched or slammed theres no energy in the selling of the move even if he is in the ring with a legend like the Undertaker or Triple H.
 
batista is definitly not the best wrestler on the roster, but if you think about it this is the same person who who gave probably the most legendary, classic match of all time in wwe at wm 23 with the undertaker. when the FU** was the last time we saw a match like that in wwe, apart the ones we get from tna every week. we had cena come out for a whole year and do that worthless piece of crap wrestling skills he has and just wins. batista actually puts his heart out, while cena does about 3 moves and its over.

the whole world knows that cena actually can perform more moves but he doesnt cause he has his head up his ass. on the other side batista cant which is quite sad because hes getting to old and plus hes not athletic enough as cena.

as much as i find cenas wrestling skills HORRIFIC and TERRIFYING to watch, my dream match would be cena v batista
at wrestlemania. why, becasue we all know cena would get ripped apart from the crowd, but you never know cause they could turn on batista just like they did on rock in wm 18.
 
Its a great topic that Ive been wondering what the answer is for quite some time. Well Batista is on Smackdown which is somtimes considered "A Family show" which could mean that the little kids watch SD and therefore cheer Batista more than Cena because he is on Raw.

Both of these men are generally hated by the IWC. I mean as much as Cena held the WWE championship for.. Batista was always in the title picture too.

I find though that usually people either love or hate both Cena and Batista. Both of these men have had great matches however Batista's matches are only good if its some type of gimmick or against a top quality opponent. Cena on the other hand.. is the top dog of the whole company and he always gives 100% in his matches and promos.

Also, Cena has a muchh much better backstage attitude and has way more passion for the business than Batista ever will.

I mean... Cena is basicly better than Batista in every aspect.. except body strength.. but Cena has alot of strength aswell.

Sometimes fans do boo the wrong person.. an example of this was at the Royal Rumble.. Mysterio gettin booed.. gimme a break the guy always puts his body on the line and is awesome in the ring.

A Cena vs Batista match @ Wrestlemania would be a dream match.. but I think Cena would win that match. It wuld be great a match.. not for the match quality.. but just to see who the fans want to win!!
 

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