i believe he is. just not as much, i dont personally like cena or batista and several people i talk to arent fans of him either but u have to remember he is on smackdown, the B brand so many fans have little knolage about his smackdown run. srry for my spelling but thats the truth!
He did get quite a bit of hate in his rivalry with Taker. Most of the people who boo Cena do it because it's the popular thing, he did get put in rivalries with lots of popular wrestlers, hearing the whole crowd booing him at One Night Stand 06 didn't help either.
Batista on the other hand, is allowed to relax. Cena may run about and do very little in the way of technical wrestling but you can tell he's dedicated. Batista does nothing but shoulder blocks and basic moves like spinebusters and spears to make him look powerful. Most of the guys who go along with booing Cena do it based on personality, nothing to do with the whole ''5 moves'' thing. On the other hand Batista has had some emotional storylines in the past and people fall for him being a ''big badass'' so they want to shout ''Yeah Batista'' when they see him.
WWE has done a good move in taking him out of the world title picture. A majority of fans would gain the knowledge sooner or later that Batista has constantly been in the title picture and that things are getting repetitive and boring and would likely begin booing him similar to Cena.
I have to make sure I boo Batista if I ever go to any Smackdown/ECW house shows
Batista on the other hand, is allowed to relax. Cena may run about and do very little in the way of technical wrestling but you can tell he's dedicated. Batista does nothing but shoulder blocks and basic moves like spinebusters and spears to make him look powerful. Most of the guys who go along with booing Cena do it based on personality, nothing to do with the whole ''5 moves'' thing. On the other hand Batista has had some emotional storylines in the past and people fall for him being a ''big badass'' so they want to shout ''Yeah Batista'' when they see him.
WWE has done a good move in taking him out of the world title picture. A majority of fans would gain the knowledge sooner or later that Batista has constantly been in the title picture and that things are getting repetitive and boring and would likely begin booing him similar to Cena.
I have to make sure I boo Batista if I ever go to any Smackdown/ECW house shows
Canadian Knight
Maple Leaf Warrior
First He (Batista) has the moves for the type of character he is. Second look at his finisher compared with the FU, which one looks like it would do a world of hurt more? Then there is the fact he did not have the belt as long as Cena did.
The Mark of Zur-En-Arrh
Tell me what's on ur so called mind
I don't really get where people are getting this 'Batista loses' theory from compared to Cena.
He got injured in 2006, had to drop the belt. Came back, won his title matches against Booker by DQ and then won the belt at SS'06. Yes he did lose to 'Taker but it was at WM so of course he'd f'n lose. Then drew the next 2 matches with Taker. Edge got dq'd at least once, near loss in a cage, and then we had a crappy countout decision where we were told Batista wud never face Edge for the title again. Edge gets injured just as we're going to see new contenders. It's then Kahli v Kane, but w8 lets add Batista. Kane gets pinned. Batista v Kahli again = Batista win by DQ, Rey v Kahli but w8 let's add Batista = Batista wins. Wins again and again until finally losing to Edge in a triple threat and we say thank f*** for that.
As for Cena yes he did beat everybody within four weeks, sometimes there was no build up at all e.g. Vengeance 5-way, Backlash 4-way, 2 month rivalries with Umaga and Kahli and then he lost!!!! Got Dq'd against Orton in their second match, and we approaching the 3rd (Orton being the ONLY guy to get more than two shots at Cena) and we all knew he'd lose.
I h8 Batista for the same reason i h8 Cena. I'm sick of having him shoved down my throat all the time. They have been in the spotlight ever since the Rumble '05 and it's now April '08. 3 years +! You can say the same about Austin, Rock, HBK or HHH but at least they had decent rivalries all the time with each other as well as Taker, Angle, Bret and Foley. Decent rivalries is all these two need to make their overshadowing of everyone else at least tolerable IMO.
He got injured in 2006, had to drop the belt. Came back, won his title matches against Booker by DQ and then won the belt at SS'06. Yes he did lose to 'Taker but it was at WM so of course he'd f'n lose. Then drew the next 2 matches with Taker. Edge got dq'd at least once, near loss in a cage, and then we had a crappy countout decision where we were told Batista wud never face Edge for the title again. Edge gets injured just as we're going to see new contenders. It's then Kahli v Kane, but w8 lets add Batista. Kane gets pinned. Batista v Kahli again = Batista win by DQ, Rey v Kahli but w8 let's add Batista = Batista wins. Wins again and again until finally losing to Edge in a triple threat and we say thank f*** for that.
As for Cena yes he did beat everybody within four weeks, sometimes there was no build up at all e.g. Vengeance 5-way, Backlash 4-way, 2 month rivalries with Umaga and Kahli and then he lost!!!! Got Dq'd against Orton in their second match, and we approaching the 3rd (Orton being the ONLY guy to get more than two shots at Cena) and we all knew he'd lose.
I h8 Batista for the same reason i h8 Cena. I'm sick of having him shoved down my throat all the time. They have been in the spotlight ever since the Rumble '05 and it's now April '08. 3 years +! You can say the same about Austin, Rock, HBK or HHH but at least they had decent rivalries all the time with each other as well as Taker, Angle, Bret and Foley. Decent rivalries is all these two need to make their overshadowing of everyone else at least tolerable IMO.
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beethoven24680
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I hate Batista. He gets all of these chances then looses. After like 15 times, he has won the tittle. I mean come on! He is a buffed up guy on steroids and is so typical. It's kind of lame seeing him in the main event every week. The pay-per views with him are all the same. When he had the title, he would face the guy like 10 times. It's not really his fault. You should blame the story line editor. We need something new and apparently Batista is "old" and "rusty".
Italian MVP
Cant see himself....
What i dont get is, is how Batista no matter what, no matter what pushes his getting, no matter what feud or mid card match his in, he still gets made to look stronger than everyone else.
See on Smackdown, he is in a feud with HBK. Undertaker is meant to be booked as a dominant champion, but Batista gets made to look stronger as he nearly won the match if it wasnt for HBK. What the hell? This makes Batista look to good and Undertaker look like a fluke.
I Just dont get it, he always is made to fucken look strong, even when he loses the title, he is made to look like God. So i dont know why people complain about Cena for, Batista is worse. When Cena loses he loses, but when Batista loses he seems bigger and better than the guy that beat him. Batista is worse in my opinion.
See on Smackdown, he is in a feud with HBK. Undertaker is meant to be booked as a dominant champion, but Batista gets made to look stronger as he nearly won the match if it wasnt for HBK. What the hell? This makes Batista look to good and Undertaker look like a fluke.
I Just dont get it, he always is made to fucken look strong, even when he loses the title, he is made to look like God. So i dont know why people complain about Cena for, Batista is worse. When Cena loses he loses, but when Batista loses he seems bigger and better than the guy that beat him. Batista is worse in my opinion.
The Mark of Zur-En-Arrh
Tell me what's on ur so called mind
But during their 2007 fued, Taker looked to be stronger in nearly every match thet had and only actually WON one of them. Plus this month, Taker is sposed to be 'worn down' before his title match w/ Edge after fighting Festus and Batista (twice), and they had to have HBK screw Batista to add extra heat between them (because Jericho's had all the heat l8ly and he's only the ref.) and it wouldn't have worked if Batista didn't look like he was moments away from winning now would it?
yeah Batista is not too far behind though Cena as far as the hate Radar goes, he gets booed every year at Wrestlemania for some reason he gets booed everytime he fights Undertaker, got booed against HBK
then you talk about on the Mic and charisma... boy he is so bad that if you think about it he really has never been part of a very entertaining long fued when he grab a mic he looks so nervous that he just flat out forgets what the hell he was going to say, him and Cena need to go heel
then you talk about on the Mic and charisma... boy he is so bad that if you think about it he really has never been part of a very entertaining long fued when he grab a mic he looks so nervous that he just flat out forgets what the hell he was going to say, him and Cena need to go heel
It's not so much what he does, It's what he doesnt do that makes him liked more than John Cena. He doesnt have a soldier marine gangster persona like John Cena does, he doesnt have a spinner belt, he doesn't have promos designed to impress women...I could go on but these are just some of the reasons people dislike cena. Although I don't have a problem with cena, so I don't want you to think I dislike him also, but many people dislike him and I'm just explaining why. There are many things cena does that make some people dislike him.
The WWE doesn't make any sense what so ever. They push Batista to the moon he gets beat by Mark Henry and injured OK fine he gets back from the injury and squashes him WTF. He did the same to Umaga at WM this year. Why portray guys like Umaga and Henry as monsters if you are gonna squash them in record time to the point that there push as monsters means nothing. Batista is horrible in the ring I am not a Cena fan but at least he puts effort into matches. Batista gets owned for 10 mintues in a match hits a weak spear and crappy powerbomb and wins. I know Mark Henry isn't very good or good at all but his is as powerful as they come and if put into a match where he isn't squashing someone or getting squashed and allowed to actually do moves who knows he might actually be worth watching and a believeable threat. There just aren't many credible threats to any of the champions right due to the fact that all the monsters whether they are good or bad in the ring have been squashed big time. I am surprised cena is hated more than Batista cause cena actually looks beatable in matches and isn't portrayed as superman all the time. Even now Batista has no title and was still made to look stronger than the Undertaker who is champion why not have Undertaker squash him to make Undertaker look like a strong champion.
Why is Cena hated more than Batista? Simple......Batista is the the shiit, Cena is just shit. (I love saying that) That's pretty much all there is to it. Batista may not be as impressive as he was in Evolution days, but that happens to everyone with age. He's still pretty impressive or he wouldn't be in the position he is currently in. Cena is still in the main event picture, but we all know that's because he sucks up to Vince both figuratively and literally. Also, the fact Batista does job from time to time and Cena "beats" everyone, if u call superstar after superstar losing to the same moves in the same sequence getting beat or just getting payed to look like fools for the dumb Cena fans. Bottom line, Batista is good for WWE. He can perform a well-worked match with almost anyone and doesn't mind taking a fall for the business...Cena just SUX
Moneymaker_90
Scorpion King
This is a mistery of the gods. Batista is 1000 times worst than Cena. Batista should look at Cena and say "I wish I could be that good" because Batista is one of the worst wrestlers I've ever seen. He doesn't know what he is doing and he's getting worst by the second. The only (and I mean that) move that Batista does well is the spine buster, and he did better in the Evolution time. Batista is useless! Just check his match at WM. I didn't believe how they can screw with Umaga like this. Simply put Batista shoud not wrestle because he can't do anything good on the ring or on the mic.
Mighty NorCal
SHALL WE BEGIN?
Its because hating Batista hasnt been deemed "cool" yet. Cena is far superior in nearly every aspect of pro wrestling to Batista. And barring injury time, Batista has been in the main event/title scene just as much as Cena. So there is no explanation besides being that hating Cena is the thing people try to do to feel smart, to feel like they are against the grain and badass. Batista matches are even booked simularly. So every last argument EVER used to hate Cena, is MORE than applicable to Batista.
Rated K for Kennedy... Kennedy!
Talk loud, hit harder!
Quote the Norcal, Nevermore.
Gotta agree man, it seems like it's popular to hate Cena right now, but Batista has managed to not get too overbearing due to injuries etc. Don't worry, soon enough Batista will feel the hate!
Crimson Bonez
Been a peep since 2004
i dont like batista everybody says cena does the same moves he has no skill batista does the same moves and hes just big ppl just want to hop on the "i hate cena" band wagon, i dont hate cena but he aint my fav. wreslter, yea they have made him seem unbeatable but theyve done that with others too hogan hbk triple h brock lesnar just to name a few and they say its cause hes always int eh world title pic.... how long has batista ben in the world title pic since winning the royal rumble maybe? and for the past what 2 yrs its ben him and edge with taker sometimes going for that world heavy weight title to me the guy is boring spear, spine buster, batista bomb, 2 dif power slams, repeat every match every match til he wins ...and to the other guy that made the comment of "" batista vs taker for match of the year, cena couldnt do that" if im not mistaken cena has had match of the year vs hbk and fueds of the yearso to me i dont like batista hes over-rated and boring
As soon as teenage girls start gushing over Batista like they do Cena, he will be hated soon enough. John Cena isn't hated because of his wrestling ability. He isn't hated because of his mic skills...he is hated because teenage girls love him. Batista will probably never be "dreamy" enough to fulfill that hate requirement.
FoleyIsGod
Hardcore Legend
Wrong, otherwise wed all hate Hardy as there seems to be a moment in every match where you expect panties thrown at him.
Cena is hated because his offence looks so poor. Hell, I could make all his stuff look more realistic, rather than the 4 moves of doom he uses every match.
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shaunbaby
Guest
i think the reason people dont boo Batista is because people havent noticed that hes only got a limited moveset, but unlike cena he can do them i different orders,
-he's not as good on the mic as cena(he always sounds like hes rushing), but he always tells a different story to the one before(Cena's is always the same "want some come get some*, infact the only Cena story ive liked in the past two years was when edge battered his dad prior to TLC).
-he's not as good on the mic as cena(he always sounds like hes rushing), but he always tells a different story to the one before(Cena's is always the same "want some come get some*, infact the only Cena story ive liked in the past two years was when edge battered his dad prior to TLC).
Cena is definately more respected now. The reason why many people started booing Cena at the time was because they became annoyed with his title reign.
Batista had a long title reign in 2005 also. But ppl did not get as upset I am guessing because it was Smackdown. If he had been on Raw, he probably would have been booed.
I hate that Batista has been a boring face for years now when he could have been an excellent monster heel. His matches with the Undertaker and Shawn Michaels would have been miles better if he had been written better and as a heel simply because he could have done more.
Heels can cheat, heels can use weapons, heels can make fun of the crowd. This was a big opportunity that WWE messed up big time on and I hope they turn him heel soon.
There are still people who boo Cena but most of those people aere smarks who think it is "cool" to do so and really have no opinions of their own. They are just that dumb.
Batista had a long title reign in 2005 also. But ppl did not get as upset I am guessing because it was Smackdown. If he had been on Raw, he probably would have been booed.
I hate that Batista has been a boring face for years now when he could have been an excellent monster heel. His matches with the Undertaker and Shawn Michaels would have been miles better if he had been written better and as a heel simply because he could have done more.
Heels can cheat, heels can use weapons, heels can make fun of the crowd. This was a big opportunity that WWE messed up big time on and I hope they turn him heel soon.
There are still people who boo Cena but most of those people aere smarks who think it is "cool" to do so and really have no opinions of their own. They are just that dumb.
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oddone
Guest
that is true. dudes that look like they are going to explode and are covered with tattoos arent prime teen beat cover boys. the only other explanation i can come up with is cena is on the a show and batista isnt. raw is way more popular than smackdown, which makes cena more visible. in any event the both still suck.
Monkey_Mania
I Am The One Who Knocks
Well now that the fact that Batista won't be on Smackdown anymore I can see him getting the same hate that Cena has gotten. He doesnt have the luxury of the editing they did for him on Smackdown anymore to make him look halfway decent. The fans will then turn against him and since Batista doesnt get as much support from the kids as Cena does, the WWE can actually turn him heel. Then the fans will really have a reason to boo Batista.
Mr Wrestlemania
Occasional Pre-Show
In my opinion it's just because a lot of people are hopping on the bandwagon. I'm a 21 year old guy and personally don't mind Cena. He's not a great wrestler, but he's improved in leaps and bounds in the ring. I respect all that he does for the business, etc. I share the same sentiment regarding Batista. It's just that people began hearing people boo Cena, so they joined along. I think if more adult guys were cheering Cena, then others would follow suit.
Cena haters > never heard of the 80s or early 90s wrestling LOL
Anyway on to topic, I like Batista and Cena, one main reason is I think there great throwbacks to Batista > Ultimate Warrior, Cena > Hulk Hogan. And I dunno how Batista doesn't get booes, I was at WM23 and never really heard alot of Batista boo birds, guess maybe because... THERES FANS OUT THERE!?! What a wrestling fan OMG!?!? WTF is a wrestling fan!?! Yeah maybe there's still wrestling fans out there who cheer the good guys and boo the bad guys, maybe some of you never heard of that, while all your caring for his booing the top good guy (Cena) and crying because the other top good guy (Batista) isn't getting booed as well.
There I think I summed up that lol.
Anyway on to topic, I like Batista and Cena, one main reason is I think there great throwbacks to Batista > Ultimate Warrior, Cena > Hulk Hogan. And I dunno how Batista doesn't get booes, I was at WM23 and never really heard alot of Batista boo birds, guess maybe because... THERES FANS OUT THERE!?! What a wrestling fan OMG!?!? WTF is a wrestling fan!?! Yeah maybe there's still wrestling fans out there who cheer the good guys and boo the bad guys, maybe some of you never heard of that, while all your caring for his booing the top good guy (Cena) and crying because the other top good guy (Batista) isn't getting booed as well.
There I think I summed up that lol.
Cena went over the entire RAW roster for over a year. He was unstoppable.
And although Batista was in every title match in 2007, and won only a handful, two against Khali, one against Taker (He didnt really go over him in HITC). He was beaten 3 times in a row by Edge, even when he didn't have 'La Familia' in his corner, (back in the day....)
And in 2008...
Came 3rd in the Rumble. Came 2nd in the EC. And eventually won the worst match of WM against Umaga. He was the apitomy of the 'nearly' man. Whereas Cena walks in, wins the Rumble and books his place in the main event of Mania.
That, effectively is the difference. Cena's invincible. Batista (thankfully) isn't.
And although Batista was in every title match in 2007, and won only a handful, two against Khali, one against Taker (He didnt really go over him in HITC). He was beaten 3 times in a row by Edge, even when he didn't have 'La Familia' in his corner, (back in the day....)
And in 2008...
Came 3rd in the Rumble. Came 2nd in the EC. And eventually won the worst match of WM against Umaga. He was the apitomy of the 'nearly' man. Whereas Cena walks in, wins the Rumble and books his place in the main event of Mania.
That, effectively is the difference. Cena's invincible. Batista (thankfully) isn't.
Put simply, I've never liked Batista. His style is that of a powerhouse, and a number of wrestler's can, or used to be able to pull off the powerhouse style in entertaining fashion. (Kane, when he was masked. 'Taker maybe. Umaga.) His wrestling is just boring and I don't think I've seen him add a new move in years, except for maybe that jackhammer i've seen him do once or twice. Nevertheless, I find him boring, and for a while during his first title run they did kinda treat him like an 'immortal' champion where his matches were a given. Cena has flavor to his personality that gives the crowd powerful reactions, whether they be love or hate. Batista never really been able to do something like that.