Kane used to be my favirote wrestler when I first started watching wrestling in 1997. He is by far now a whole different wrestler in my eyes. He looks, acts, sounds, and wrestles different. I love watching old Kane matches when he came out with Paul Bearer with the mask on. I remember always wondering what he looked like without the mask on and now I wish he would put it back on! Like have him in a match and accidently burn his face in a skit and make him don the mask back on, only problem is they shaved his head(dumb idea). I think Kane was in his best shape when he donned the mask that showed his mouth and such(if you dont believe me check the video where he comes back and beats up the un-americans and does the Kane-A-Rooni) and look how fit he was. Other than that he has always been out of shape and now that he is older he is in the worst shape of his life. I think Kane deserves a title shot but I think he needs a revamp. Make him get back in great shape, throw the tanktop back on, turn him heel and make him psycho again and your good to go!
Why hasn't Kane had a legitimate world title run?
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justinsayne
Cody Rhodes is an excellant
you know what's funny, people that think Kane sucks keep saying name five Kane matches that were good, and then people come in and post some great Kane matches so the Kane Haters come back with the same brilliant response that we've seen time and time again, "well he was carried in those matches" or "well those are special stipulation matches", to me that just seems like a weak argument, my favorite was whoever said to name three single one-on-one matches that Kane has had that were good, then added that you couldn't list his matches with Taker, just thought that was funny, it's like your trying to corner the argument and limit choices until nobody can list anymore matches and then say "see I told you he sucked", which I also find funny because I don't remember anyone saying the Kane was the greatest wrestler alive or that he was the most deserving, personally I would just rather see Kane as champion right now instead of Khali or Batista, I find Kane far more interesting than either one of them, just give him a title run similar to the one Abyss had in TNA, just a short term run like a month or so, and for anyone else that comes on here and says that nobody likes Kane or nobody thinks he has a following and doesn't deserve a title run just look at the poll at the top of this thread, as of this post it states that 83% of the people that have voted think Kane deserves a title run
I think the thing people forget when they vote is that we are talking about Kane in 2007 and well lets face it hes slow and has gut. He is not as mobile as he once was. He is at the point in his carrier where he is used to propel young stars and help put over someone like in championship matches. Kane was nothing really special back in his day and now hes nothing more than a jobber that peole still pull for due to his past.
That is not at all what happened. I told people not to list any of his matches with Undertaker because I've seen them, and they bored me to tears. Seriously, do you know how hard it was for me to sit through Undertaker vs. Kane at Wrestlemania 14? I've taken sleep medicine less powerful than that coma inducing match.
I said not to list any Undertaker matches, not to work against Kane, but rather for Kane's benefit. I've seen them, and if people consider those matches to be his best work, then I will not waste my time with other matches. Because those matches were terrible.
While you may not believe it, I do like Kane...he's just a piss poor wrestler and I can't stand to watch him wrestle.
Hope that explains it.
Lee
Is it a bird? Is it a plane? No it's Supermod!
From what I've seen everyone has been bringing, or rather digging up matches that Kane has been in. The latest match I have seen mentioned was 2004. That's 3 years, if he hasn't had a good match in 3 years then he certainly doesn't warrant a championship run.
Then people are slagging teh like of Batista and Cena off for the lack of good matches. As much as I don't like them, they have still performed a number of decent matches in the past 3 years, which is more than I can say for Kane. He's just to slow now, back in the day as the proper big red machine where there was some sort of character to him, before he was unmasked would have been the perfect opportunity for a title run. Now though I don't think he should have. People say he's been in the business for a while and should have an honourary run, does that mean Val Venis and Viscera should?!
I feel that Kane did deserve a longer title run initially but now I don't think he does deserve one.
Then people are slagging teh like of Batista and Cena off for the lack of good matches. As much as I don't like them, they have still performed a number of decent matches in the past 3 years, which is more than I can say for Kane. He's just to slow now, back in the day as the proper big red machine where there was some sort of character to him, before he was unmasked would have been the perfect opportunity for a title run. Now though I don't think he should have. People say he's been in the business for a while and should have an honourary run, does that mean Val Venis and Viscera should?!
I feel that Kane did deserve a longer title run initially but now I don't think he does deserve one.
You like him, but you say he sucks. If thats the case, what is it that you DO like about him? Because I can't think of anything. And for that matter, you say that the Kane Undertaker matches were bad. Just wondering, you've probably been a wrestling fan longer than I have, so you probably know more than I do, what do you think was a good match?
Anyways, I didn't come here to rant on someone else, I just though what he had said made little to no sence. IMO, Kane DESERVES a title run, but with his charecter getting a little stale, he won't get it. Then again, it's the title itselt that will make Kane that much less stale. I think the WWEs best plan of action for Kane is to turn him heal again, and actually have him as a main event heal. Don't give him back the mask, he don't need it, and if he did, it would just be a desperate act to relive the past (DX reunion anyone?) Turn Kane Heal, have him feud with a few semi main event/main event faces (Batista, Both Hardys, HHH if he returns face) And after a little while of him main eventing, have him take the title from either Cena or whoever the World Champ is at the time.
I like everything about Kane, right up until the moment the bell sounds. From the time the bell signals the start of the match, till the time the bell rings that signals the end of the match, Kane is pure and utter crap. I like the persona, I think he has a gimmick which could still be effective, if he'd ever get in shape. I like the fact that the person Glen Jacobs seems to be willing to do whats best for business, not just for himself. I like that he seems to be a company guy, willing to put over new guys. I like the fact that he knows his time is about up, and how he has said he doesn't want a title. I respect the person playing Kane a lot. I like Kane outside the ring, on camera.
But, in the ring, he is awful. And the thing is, I can't name you a good Kane match because I've never seen one. That's why I was asking people to list me some.
Were you just talking about Kane matches? Or matches in general? Because I can name you a TON of matches that are good that don't involve Kane.
sharpsh00ter23
Occasional Pre-Show
I think that Kane is more than deserving of a good World Title run simply because he's been getting screwed out of more matches than anyone as of late. Now that Kane is a face, this would be the best opportunity for him to be champion, because the crowd's attention is turning towards him. Kane does not suck in the ring...although he may have slowed down a bit, it is due to a nagging knee problem that was reported...in fact Kane was thinking of taking time off for that knee...I'm wondering why though they messed up that whole angle of Kane vs. Kane...it could've of been promising if Kane would've decisively beat the hell out of the masked imposter and donned the mask again, and return to the ring as the Big Red Machine like he was prior. A good way to have that happen would have been if the imposter Kane would've scarred Kane's face up beyond repair, or something else should've happened to make it believeable that he should re-equip that mask. Then the title should be his...but back to the reasons why he should be champion...the crowd reacts positively to Kane's mataches much more than "The Great Garbage" Khali is pathetically slow and he even weighs less than the Big Show. His arsenal of moves (if you would even call it an arsenal) consists of overhead chops, feminine clotheslines, ******ed looking kicks, and a pathetic double-handed chokeslam. Have you noticed that the ****** can't even hold the belt right-side up? It's pathetic...Big Show even had more moves than him...in fact Hornswoggle draws a more entertaining match than that 7'4 mass of garbage...Khali has done nothing to earn a title, especially the world title. Kane has been in enough matches to where he deserves that title again. A lot of the Kane matches that have been mentioned for the top 5 are accurate. His match with Goldberg on Raw (when the Undertaker was paranormally messing with Kane's head) was even a good one to watch. Goldberg did not dominate Kane like most would think. I will tell you one move that Kane has that humbles even the greatest opponents...and that's that "Kane Uppercut". But anyway Kane needs that championship also to change the scene of the WWE and Smackdown...let him and the Undertaker have a crazy feud for the Championship and let Batista get thrown to the side for a while...and please for the sake of the success of the WWE...DO NOT MAKE REY MYSTERIO the champion again...
Holy Grammar Bee, Batman! Punctuations and paragraphs have gone missing in the world!
For those who struggled like I did to read his post, here it is, in a more friendly version.
As for Rey Mysterio, that was more of a case of bad booking. Rey actually drew decently for his reign as champion. He is VERY over with the Hispanic demographic, for obvious reasons.
I think Rey would be a better champion at this point than Kane, assuming both got equally competent booking.
For those who struggled like I did to read his post, here it is, in a more friendly version.
I agree that I do not understand why they just suddenly dropped the Kane vs. Kane angle. Especially since they let the fake Kane win the first match. I realize the match was pretty piss poor (from what I understand), but they shouldn't have dropped the angle they built towards for two months, just like that.
As for Rey Mysterio, that was more of a case of bad booking. Rey actually drew decently for his reign as champion. He is VERY over with the Hispanic demographic, for obvious reasons.
I think Rey would be a better champion at this point than Kane, assuming both got equally competent booking.
Although I'm not the biggest Kane fan, I still think he should have a 1-2 month title reign, at least until Undertaker and Edge come back. Kane has a good fan-base and Smackdown can't do much better right now. Plus, there's no way that Vince will let Mysterio come back and beat Khali for the title, so it'd be best to have Kane take the belt.
kane isnt a bad wrestler, he can do many moves, see him b4 wwe/wwf then, in his independent days or in some house shows, he is actually a really good wrestler, WWE limits him though, and even though they limit him, ive still found many of his matches entertaining... im sure u (slyfox) could tell me a match u thought was good and i could also think it was ''piss poor'', but if kane is over so much with every1, i dont think that just because he isnt a good wrestler nowadays should hold him back from being champ
god knows that to be champ in WWE today u dont have to know shit about wrestling, so even if u still do grasp on to your opinion in saying he sucks in the ring, thats still not a good enough argument for him not be champ on SD! right now... he has EVERYTHING a champ needs except top notch wrestling, wich he could have done back in the day IMO, anyways, seeing as though the only thing u think is holding kane back to be champ is his wrestling skills, then dont worry, that means he could and SHOULD be champ very soon and have a decent run until someone more deserving comes along the SD! roster...
god knows that to be champ in WWE today u dont have to know shit about wrestling, so even if u still do grasp on to your opinion in saying he sucks in the ring, thats still not a good enough argument for him not be champ on SD! right now... he has EVERYTHING a champ needs except top notch wrestling, wich he could have done back in the day IMO, anyways, seeing as though the only thing u think is holding kane back to be champ is his wrestling skills, then dont worry, that means he could and SHOULD be champ very soon and have a decent run until someone more deserving comes along the SD! roster...
The_Rocket
Dark Match Jobber
I agree with most that kane should get a long title run , when edge had to give up title it would of been the perfect time to give him a title run, he is alot better then Khali, that would gave him a great chance to hold title til Taker and Edge come back. kane has been in the Biz for many years he is one of the veterns of the wwe and deserves a major push
Lee
Is it a bird? Is it a plane? No it's Supermod!
Like I mentioned earlier, there are a lot more people who have been about longer than Kane who are just jobbing. And like I also said Kane hasn't had a decent match for at least 3 years. How does that warrent him a title run?
justinsayne
Cody Rhodes is an excellant
Do you think that's because Kane hasn't been booked in a decent feud in the past three years?, I mean come on even the best wrestlers are going to struggle when they are booked against the likes of Big Show, Matt Hardy(and Yes I think Hardy sucks as a singles wrestler), Umaga, Mark Henery, and Khali, not even guys like HBK Triple H, Angle, or Taker could pull halfway decent matches out of guys like these
Kane, yes, deserved a longer title reign then one day, he deserved, past tense. He doesn't now. The guy is old, fellows. He is there to put over young talent, much like Shawn Michaels and why he doesn't take the title when he has been offered it.
Kane hasn't had a good match in several years, like most of the list indicates. I'm not as hard on Kane as maybe slyfox is, but that's what he likes or dislikes, not us. The Undertaker/Kane match at WM 20 was a stinker. The hype was there, but little substance. I on the other hand, enjoyed their feuds in 1998-2000 and loved their matches.
Father time catches up with everyone, including are favorites. Kane just isn't made of the same cloth as the Undertaker. The Undertaker seems to be getting better with age, whereas Kane seems to be getting slower, and fatter.
I love Kane, respect Glen Jacobs for all he has contributed to the business, but his days as a main eventer are indeed over, and justifiably so.
I understand the hate on Khali, but he was given the belt for a reason, to put Big Dave over when he wins the belt back. Batista is connected in the WWE, like it or not, and if his friends want him to have the title, he is going to get it.
I dare not compare the Undertaker to Khali, but the Undertaker was a rather stiff slow piece of work when he first started. The Undertaker really didn't start to get good in the ring with his mat and wrestling ability until 1996. He had 6 years of matches that essentially, were crap. The jury is still out on Khali, he has a long way to go yes, but I think by his expressions when he won the title, he is very grateful to have the belt, so I'm holding judgment on him.
Kane, great wrestler in the past, but realistically shouldn't hold a world title again in his career.
Kane hasn't had a good match in several years, like most of the list indicates. I'm not as hard on Kane as maybe slyfox is, but that's what he likes or dislikes, not us. The Undertaker/Kane match at WM 20 was a stinker. The hype was there, but little substance. I on the other hand, enjoyed their feuds in 1998-2000 and loved their matches.
Father time catches up with everyone, including are favorites. Kane just isn't made of the same cloth as the Undertaker. The Undertaker seems to be getting better with age, whereas Kane seems to be getting slower, and fatter.
I love Kane, respect Glen Jacobs for all he has contributed to the business, but his days as a main eventer are indeed over, and justifiably so.
I understand the hate on Khali, but he was given the belt for a reason, to put Big Dave over when he wins the belt back. Batista is connected in the WWE, like it or not, and if his friends want him to have the title, he is going to get it.
I dare not compare the Undertaker to Khali, but the Undertaker was a rather stiff slow piece of work when he first started. The Undertaker really didn't start to get good in the ring with his mat and wrestling ability until 1996. He had 6 years of matches that essentially, were crap. The jury is still out on Khali, he has a long way to go yes, but I think by his expressions when he won the title, he is very grateful to have the belt, so I'm holding judgment on him.
Kane, great wrestler in the past, but realistically shouldn't hold a world title again in his career.
ok so kane is old.. i think every1 can notice that hes there just to put young guys over, but WWE decided to give him a little push, id say continue the plan and make him kick khalis ass...
how old do u think batista is?? hes no randy orton.. as a matter of fact hes even no cena, batista is past his prime... thats right, past, sure hes huge, but ive always wondered why a guy in that shape couldnt move fast (like lashley), and couldnt execute moves right even with all those muscles, then i found out he was like what, 40? the guy hasnt had a good match since his first day in WWE IMO, so please explain to me, why should a extremely poor and old wrestler have the belt instead of kane???
i dont see why batista should have the belt, or khali, but kane cant
... what do they have that kane doesnt? better yet, what do they have that can make them as good as kane? right... nothing... all im saying is if batista or khali deserve a title reign, so does kane, and a lot more than them EVEN nowadays... even being slow and fat, hes more entertaining than both 2gether...
how old do u think batista is?? hes no randy orton.. as a matter of fact hes even no cena, batista is past his prime... thats right, past, sure hes huge, but ive always wondered why a guy in that shape couldnt move fast (like lashley), and couldnt execute moves right even with all those muscles, then i found out he was like what, 40? the guy hasnt had a good match since his first day in WWE IMO, so please explain to me, why should a extremely poor and old wrestler have the belt instead of kane???
i dont see why batista should have the belt, or khali, but kane cant
... what do they have that kane doesnt? better yet, what do they have that can make them as good as kane? right... nothing... all im saying is if batista or khali deserve a title reign, so does kane, and a lot more than them EVEN nowadays... even being slow and fat, hes more entertaining than both 2gether...Come on Shock, you're telling me Undertaker vs. Fake Undertaker wasn't one of the best feuds of all time? lol.
Seriously I get what you're saying about Taker, and I respect the fact that he can still carry a pretty decent match at his age, but truth be told there are as many arguments detracting from a Taker title reign as their are arguments detracting from a Kane reign. A lot of people view the Undertaker's most recent reign as a courtesy reign, and why shouldn't Kane be allowed the same thing?
Yeah, Undertaker can still lead a good match in the ring and he's one of the most popular attractions in all of the WWE, but have you heard the reactions Kane gets during his matches? He's popular, people love him, and a lot of people (as this poll suggests) would love to see him hold the championship once more.
And in the end, isn't that what it comes down to, the fans?
You say we shouldn't rag on Khali because he's a transitional champ there to put over Big Dave Batista, which is fair, but didn't you just get done ragging on Batista in another thread? Yeah he has ties in the company, but so has Kane, a decade's more worth of ties, and it's arguable which wrestler among Kane and Batista is "worse" in the ring.
Fact is, he's popular, you can hear it when the flame pillars hit and he comes out to the ring, just like you hear the pops Batista gets, and, in my humble opinion, that should be the main deciding factor in choosing a champion, his ability to draw. Obviously that person needs to be able to put on a decent main event, and although Kane and Batista are no where near the best in wrestling ability, that's for sure, you also can't say either one doesn't entertain the majority of fans when they wrestle.
Considering the amount of injuries there are on Smackdown! at the moment, why not give him a title reign of a few months? I certainly wouldn't put him over a lot of people, but those people are injured. Why not give him a reign and help him put over a younger guy in a couple of months.
Seriously I get what you're saying about Taker, and I respect the fact that he can still carry a pretty decent match at his age, but truth be told there are as many arguments detracting from a Taker title reign as their are arguments detracting from a Kane reign. A lot of people view the Undertaker's most recent reign as a courtesy reign, and why shouldn't Kane be allowed the same thing?
Yeah, Undertaker can still lead a good match in the ring and he's one of the most popular attractions in all of the WWE, but have you heard the reactions Kane gets during his matches? He's popular, people love him, and a lot of people (as this poll suggests) would love to see him hold the championship once more.
And in the end, isn't that what it comes down to, the fans?
You say we shouldn't rag on Khali because he's a transitional champ there to put over Big Dave Batista, which is fair, but didn't you just get done ragging on Batista in another thread? Yeah he has ties in the company, but so has Kane, a decade's more worth of ties, and it's arguable which wrestler among Kane and Batista is "worse" in the ring.
Fact is, he's popular, you can hear it when the flame pillars hit and he comes out to the ring, just like you hear the pops Batista gets, and, in my humble opinion, that should be the main deciding factor in choosing a champion, his ability to draw. Obviously that person needs to be able to put on a decent main event, and although Kane and Batista are no where near the best in wrestling ability, that's for sure, you also can't say either one doesn't entertain the majority of fans when they wrestle.
Considering the amount of injuries there are on Smackdown! at the moment, why not give him a title reign of a few months? I certainly wouldn't put him over a lot of people, but those people are injured. Why not give him a reign and help him put over a younger guy in a couple of months.
exactly, no1 is saying kane should be a dominate champ in SD!, but with so many injuries who better than kane to hold on to the title until a more deserving person comes back?
personally i think kane might draw more than batista, he has that gimmick that kids like, and hes over with older wrestling fans cuz of the respect most fans have for him, he might be the most popular guy on SD! right now, except for flair.. obviously
personally i think kane might draw more than batista, he has that gimmick that kids like, and hes over with older wrestling fans cuz of the respect most fans have for him, he might be the most popular guy on SD! right now, except for flair.. obviously
I rag on Batista all the time Prax, that's how I roll.
I don't like Batista as champion, don't get me wrong. He is in his 40's but the big difference is, he's young in terms of television exposure. Batista has only been on top of the company for two years, and he was out for 8 months of those, yes, with popping his back while probably realistically posing inn front of a mirror.
What does Khali have on Kane, a decade less exposure of television time. I get Kane gets big pops, I do, I'm not deaf to it. The WWE is obviously going in a different direction right now. Now this argument will be a mute point probably in 3 months when Mr. Ego comes back and becomes an eleven time champion, but there appears to be a youth movement in the WWE.
With the Undertaker, the big difference between he and Kane, Taker is still very capable of putting on match of the nights everytime he comes out, we can't say that about Kane. If Kane is put with a bad dance partner, thenn the matches end up being god awful, whereas Taker can pull a decent match out of a bad wrestler.
Like I said, I love Kane, but I see no point in making him the champion, I would like him to hold the belt over Batista, but I don't think it will happen.
I don't like Batista as champion, don't get me wrong. He is in his 40's but the big difference is, he's young in terms of television exposure. Batista has only been on top of the company for two years, and he was out for 8 months of those, yes, with popping his back while probably realistically posing inn front of a mirror.
What does Khali have on Kane, a decade less exposure of television time. I get Kane gets big pops, I do, I'm not deaf to it. The WWE is obviously going in a different direction right now. Now this argument will be a mute point probably in 3 months when Mr. Ego comes back and becomes an eleven time champion, but there appears to be a youth movement in the WWE.
With the Undertaker, the big difference between he and Kane, Taker is still very capable of putting on match of the nights everytime he comes out, we can't say that about Kane. If Kane is put with a bad dance partner, thenn the matches end up being god awful, whereas Taker can pull a decent match out of a bad wrestler.
Like I said, I love Kane, but I see no point in making him the champion, I would like him to hold the belt over Batista, but I don't think it will happen.
skywalker7
New Member
I can't believe what i'm hearing. The only reason why kane lost at the bash is because he was double teamed. He was still recovering from the batista bomb when khali did his finisher. Kane not being champion is bullshit! He deserves it more than anybody. he always gets screwed and in a very cheap way. The only reason he's not champion is because he never gets a legitimate chance at the title.
He needs to have a john cena like reign. Anyone disagreeing can think what they want but kane's time is well overdue. Hopefully those wwe people will realize he deserves it and script a title reign for him. Besides, did you see batista hit his finisher on khali by himself? I think not! I saw kane chokeslam his funky ass so there!!!
He needs to have a john cena like reign. Anyone disagreeing can think what they want but kane's time is well overdue. Hopefully those wwe people will realize he deserves it and script a title reign for him. Besides, did you see batista hit his finisher on khali by himself? I think not! I saw kane chokeslam his funky ass so there!!!
That was a choke slam? It looked to me as if Kane pushed Khali over. That was a sad excuse of a choke slam. If you are unable to execute it well, don't do it at all.
You are exactly right. Kane is over due a title run. This means he should have had a short run a few years back, not now. If he is so "deserving" of the World Heavyweight Championship, maybe he should show it by putting down the donuts and picking up a weight.
Think what you will of Khali. In my opinion, he is more capable of carrying Smackdown than Kane. He does need to change his move set.. those punches and headbutts get old after a while. I saw him do a few heel kicks and boots at the GAB. It actually didn't look too bad to my surprise.
The point is, Kane does not deserve a title NOW. I am not talking about 5 years ago. I don't give a damn what he did back then. All that matters is what he is doing NOW. From what I have seen, that isn't enough to carry the belt.
You are exactly right. Kane is over due a title run. This means he should have had a short run a few years back, not now. If he is so "deserving" of the World Heavyweight Championship, maybe he should show it by putting down the donuts and picking up a weight.
Think what you will of Khali. In my opinion, he is more capable of carrying Smackdown than Kane. He does need to change his move set.. those punches and headbutts get old after a while. I saw him do a few heel kicks and boots at the GAB. It actually didn't look too bad to my surprise.
The point is, Kane does not deserve a title NOW. I am not talking about 5 years ago. I don't give a damn what he did back then. All that matters is what he is doing NOW. From what I have seen, that isn't enough to carry the belt.
Well, I have now watched the Shane vs. Kane Ambulance match, Shane vs. Kane LMS, and RVD vs. Kane matches.
Ambulance match: This match was awful. Tip to Kane supporters. Don't use this match as an example of his ability.
LMS: Was an ok match, probably 2 or 2 and a half stars. Relied to much on big spots, most of which were poorly transitioned into, to keep crowd interest. But, considering the talent Kane was working with, 2 and a half stars is probably about as good as one could hope.
Summerslam: Was an ok match, probably 2 or 2 and a half stars. Relied to much on big spots, most of which were poorly transitioned into, to keep crowd interest. But, considering the talent Kane was working with, 2 and a half stars is probably about as good as one could hope.
I am in the process of getting vs. Mankind HIAC and vs. Austin first blood. If he can't impress me with these two phenomenal workers, then I will simply give up.
Ambulance match: This match was awful. Tip to Kane supporters. Don't use this match as an example of his ability.
LMS: Was an ok match, probably 2 or 2 and a half stars. Relied to much on big spots, most of which were poorly transitioned into, to keep crowd interest. But, considering the talent Kane was working with, 2 and a half stars is probably about as good as one could hope.
Summerslam: Was an ok match, probably 2 or 2 and a half stars. Relied to much on big spots, most of which were poorly transitioned into, to keep crowd interest. But, considering the talent Kane was working with, 2 and a half stars is probably about as good as one could hope.
I am in the process of getting vs. Mankind HIAC and vs. Austin first blood. If he can't impress me with these two phenomenal workers, then I will simply give up.
justinsayne
Cody Rhodes is an excellant
Fist, Kane never wrestled Mankind in HIAC, are think of the Taker/Mankind HIAC?
Second, you really thought those matches weren't great?, seriously?, I loved all those matches, and thought all of them were exciting to watch, and if you didn't like those matches then I can tell you right now your going to hate the First Blood match he did with Austin, anyway that a side if you thought those matches were only worth 2 to 2 1/2 stars I would really like to see what you consider to be a five star match
Umm, I just watched it. It was on Raw, when Kane and Mankind were Tag Team champs. Kane beats the hell out of Mankind, and Steve Austin jumps out from under the ring. It did happen.
I'll give my review later.
I wouldn't have said it if I didn't believe it.
How does Ricky Steamboat vs. Randy Savage sound to you? Or Bret Hart vs. Owen Hart, or Bret Hart vs. Steve Austin?
justinsayne
Cody Rhodes is an excellant
Those are all great matches but they are all technical style matches, and it's pretty clear that Kane is not the type of wrestler that is going to be able to wrestle a technical match, in fact you'd be hard pressed to find any 7 foot 300 pound guy that can, it just doesn't happen, maybe you just aren't into the style of matches that Kane wrestles, seeing as hoow he is a gimmick wrestler and excels in gimmick matches, Taker is the same way in some respect, many of his great matches were gimmick matches
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