Why do people love Daniel Bryan?

[Colt]

So for some reason I decided to read this topic and I have somethings to say about it.

Sure , Daniel Bryan is a very good wrestler but he awful in every other area. You guys do remember Jack Swagger , Dolph Ziggler , The Miz , and there are many more. They were used and then spit out.

I just want to point out one thing to people. No one said in this post that it took Daniel Bryan 10 years to win a Title. It took him ten year to make a big company.

People like :

Shawn Michaels - Started in 1984 and was signed my the WWF in 87 were he was then fired two weeks later. However, he was good enough to be back in 88 and wrestled as a tag team for three years before becoming the Heart Break Kid. The rest is history.

Bret Hart - Started in 76 in Stampede Wrestling and New Japan Pro Wrestling , by 84 he was in the WWF and the rest is history. Also , people who say he couldn't talk and all that crap. Well you could easily feel what he was saying. It always felt like he meant it.

Eddie Guerrero - Started in 89 in the AAA , then was in ECW/WCW by 95 which he become very popular. Then onto WWF in 2000 , left in 2001 but was back in 2002. He could talk and he could wrestle.

Rey Mysterio - Started in 89 , was in ECW by 95 then onto WCW in 96 until 2002 when joining WWE in 2000.

Chris Jericho - Started in 90 , he was in ECW by 96 and also was in WCW then. He won the Cruiserweight title many times by 98 , then wont he TV title in 1998 , Then moved onto WWE in 1999 and the rest is history.

Daniel Bryan - Started in 1999 , he wrestled 3 years before becoming a Founding Father of Ring of Honor. So it isn't shocking that people would love him there. ---> triple threat match between Christopher Daniels, Bryan Danielson and Low Ki (who would become known as the "founding fathers of ROH") So it makes sense. However, it still took him 10 years to actually get signed and be good in a real company.

The point here is you can't compare the Ring of Honor a Ten year old company to companies that many wrestlers wrestled for back in the day. ROH isn't the 2nd best wrestling now for that matter.

All of those stars got into Major companies quickly. It didn't take them ten years to actually make a company that mattered.

Then you all bring up things about Older wrestlers giving hype to Daniel Bryan? They all have one thing in common. They are all getting paid by the WWE.

It's as if you people don't know wrestling is fake anyway.

Also , Stars who become World Champs before 30 years old? John Cena , The Miz was 30 , Randy Orton , Brock Lesnar , The Rock , The Undertaker. So get over the the whole people don't become champs before 30..

Fact is the WWE will make you like who they want. Hulk Hogan one of the greatest of all time had a finisher of a leg drop , a LEG DROP.. Next thing people are going to say is Bryan was better then Hogan.

Wrestling hasn't been all about wrestling for years. It is a male soap opera , they are ACTORS. Who do get hurt sometimes.

Let's also remember your GM on raw was a star in Japan.. That doesn't make DB's case look any better does it?

 

[WhatAboutRaven]

I very rarely post on here. I got bored and decided to post a thread. I came off like a douchebag because I expressed my opinion and asked a question?

no, you came off as a douchebag because you talk down to people, belittling their opinion and labeling them as losers for having an opinion on a wrestler you disagree with. I can see how you'd get that confused, all that dumb-fuckery you have going on inside your head must be hard to see the obvious.

How are any of you different than me?

I don't post stupid shit.

I love you talking about my grammar like I really care. Funny though one of your last statements. "You're just letting your blind bias against some guy YOU doesn't even know cloud your judgement" hmmm..........does that sound proper?

Obviously you do care. and yes, that is funny, I'm a clever son of a bitch, aren't I?

Furthermore, I said the things about people being losers because of actual statements from real people. Also, I guess it struck a nerve with some because perhaps it is true. I thought this about people who supported him before I even came on here

I'll repeat. You're ona wrestling news site. we've all lost the right to label anyone as nerds without being a hypocritical fucktard.

You all are marks............sorry but it is true.

Once again, irony. Or stupidity, honestly at this point I'm leaning towards the latter

 

[Colt]

Thank you for starting a thread so that we can all individually state why Bryan Danielson, the same Bryan Danielson who did wrestle in "little league" Ring of Honor with countless "nobodies" such as CM Punk, Samoa Joe, Austin Aries, Alex Shelley, AJ Styles, Chris Sabin and Christopher Daniels for years honing his craft to become the original "Best In the World", is such a phenomenal wrestler, microphone worker, performer and most of all, person.

So Samoa Joe , Austin Aries , Alex Shelley , Aj Styles , Chris Sabin and Christopher Daniels , where are they now? haha , .. Get a life. They are still no bodies.. WWE got the 2 guys that were worth anything.

 

[WhatAboutRaven]

So Samoa Joe , Austin Aries , Alex Shelley , Aj Styles , Chris Sabin and Christopher Daniels , where are they now? haha , .. Get a life. They are still no bodies.. WWE got the 2 guys that were worth anything.

In TNA...Well, except shelley. Daniels is a tag champ, Aries is X-Division champion, Joe was recently a great tag champion, AJ, is... well, doing something. Supposedly the face of TNA if you ask their fans, I really doesn't give a shit about TNA personally, and Sabin is...

well fuck. I'll give you that one as well. But to say these men, who have been huge names in places like TNA and ROH are nobodies is asanine. Wait, you might not know what that means...Well no matter. I, being the generous person that I am shall gladly help you out.

Asinine; Adjective: Extremely stupid or foolish.

If you haven't heard the internet isn't for nerds anymore. Considering millions apon millions of people use it. Also they are planning on making another code instead of Http << because they would to expand the net.

So go fuck yourself.

First off, learn how the quote function works.

Secondly, and this is the important one: I have no words to accurately display how much I don't give a shit about anything you just said. I started to read that drivel, and you turned into one of the adults of charlie brown. mwomp mwomp mwomp, whomp whomp whoma.

I never said the internet alone was for nerds. I said anyone on a internet WRESTLING NEWS SITE have lost the right to call anyone else nerds. For your benefit, I bolded and underlined the key parts to help you understand. if you prefer, next time I can include pretty pictures to act as visuals.

Also, maybe take your head out of your ass and actually read whats being said before responding like an asshole.

That's my shtick

 

[TimeIsWasting]

Yeah those guys have great careers on second and third tier shows. If they are even that. Wow, that's great for them. The standard now and has always been WWE. ROH and TNA are worse than AWA, NWA/WCW, or even ECW brands. People don't say I want to grow up and be a ROH star or a TNA star. They don't grow up and say I want to headline Slammiversary or whatever ROH's marquee event is. They say I want to grow up and headline wrestlemania or just be on the show. Also, I never called anybody a nerd. I called people losers and I felt that way before all of this.

 

[WhatAboutRaven]

ROH and TNA are worse than AWA, NWA/WCW, or even ECW brands.

Agree to disagree. But my opinion holds more merit.

People don't say I want to grow up and be a ROH star or a TNA star. They don't grow up and say I want to headline Slammiversary or whatever ROH's marquee event is. They say I want to grow up and headline wrestlemania or just be on the show.

how do you know? You know every child who one day dreams of being a professional wrestler or something? How do you know there's not someone out there right now watching TNA or ROH, and think of themselves "Wow. You know, someday I want to work there more than anyplace else." Because if you know what they're thinking, you must be psychic. Hook me up with Michigan's winning lotto numbers

Also, I never called anybody a nerd. I called people losers and I felt that way before all of this.

Yes, because there's totally a major difference in nerds and losers. I've shamed the world in not understanding that, I apologize to Wrestlezone forums, but you shouldn't worry, as I shall now do the honerable thing in killing myself.

 

[TimeIsWasting]

I guess you could be right. There could be some kids that want to grow up and be mediocre. That is a sad truth. I don't know what kids are thinking. We want our kids to shoot for the stars. I guess wanting to grow up to be a ROH or TNA star is doing that? I love wrestling, but I don't want my kids to aspire to be a wrestler I hope for more. If they do choose that I hope they don't choose to be mediocre either. I hope they shoot for the STARS which is the WWE in the wrestling industry.

 

[TLK]

WTF are you talking about? This thread has devolved into the most absurd conversation. It's not even about Daniel Bryan anymore, but rather about you further revealing yourself as a complete and utter fool with every passing post.

You asked a question, many gave you answers. Daniel Bryan is a star in the WWE. He's not a "loser." People like him because he's good at what he does. Case closed.

 

[WhatAboutRaven]

I guess you could be right. There could be some kids that want to grow up and be mediocre.

I fail to see how this makes anyone mediocore, but okay then.

That is a sad truth. I don't know what kids are thinking. We want our kids to shoot for the stars. I guess wanting to grow up to be a ROH or TNA star is doing that?

If that's where they want to end up, then yeah. Still waiting on relevance.

I love wrestling, but I don't want my kids to aspire to be a wrestler I hope for more.

This is a cool story bro. Could definantly use more dragons though; but to be fair, what doesn't need more dragon?

I can hope Cody Rhodes gets fired tomorrow, I can hope Daniel Bryan has a long and successful career in the WWE (if for no other reason than to spite people like you.) but to use another overused cliche: If wishes were fishes, the world would be an ocean. Oh wait, you didn't say wish, replace wishes with hope, and fishes with...something.

If Hope were dope, the world would...be in prison on drug related charges. It's a work in progress.

If they do choose that I hope they don't choose to be mediocre either. I hope they shoot for the STARS which is the WWE in the wrestling industry.

again, just because you consider TNA/ROH to be mediocre and sub par doesn't mean everyone does. And just because people like Daniel Bryan Danielson, or Samoa Joe or Austin Aries worked there doesn't make them any less of a star than say, the Miz. After all, he was a reality star, is he sub par? Probably not in your mind, as he works in WWE.

I realize this has gotten off frm DBD, but really I can't help but respond to these asinine ramblings you call opinions. it's like crack

 

[TheFuture]

So by your standards anyone who chooses to stick in places like TNA or ROH obviously cannot make it in the WWE because they're all "mediocre"? If I got that right then you're calling people like Sting, Kurt Angle, Jeff Hardy, Austin Aries, Rob Van Dam, Matt Morgan, and Bobby Roode all "mediocre" which is an absolute joke by itself. As someone stated earlier the WWE had been chasing Bryan Danielson for years, attempting to get him to sign a deal with the company and he repeatedly turned them down, probably because he was happy with the direction that he was taking ROH and the people he was working with there.

Sure eventually the goal is 99.9% of the time to end up in the WWE, but that doesn't mean people have to go there directly and get lost in the shuffle as so many talented wrestlers have over the years. So what do they do? Exactly what Bryan Danielson did, work around the world for years mastering his craft before taking the leap and in the process of doing so learning more to help him along the way in his career.

The fact that he continues to evolve as a complete competitor week after week alone is a reason to be a fan of the guy, because he's already doing more then half the people on that roster, and any roster for that matter simply by the fact he continues to want to get better. After all this time he has yet to become "content", he doesn't just go through the motions in his matches, he doesn't just go through the motions when giving a promo, he puts his all into everything you throw in front of him even if he isn't the greatest at that certain aspect IE. promos.

It's obvious that nothing I say, or anyone says for that matter will have any effect since you could care less if your question was answered due to the fact you talk down to anyone who responds with anything speaking even decently about Bryan Danielson. But that doesn't matter, since I'm still going to voice my opinion regardless of if you like it or not.

 

[TimeIsWasting]

I was just elaborating on the other persons post. You are right it was off topic. Bryan is good at wrestling and that's it. People like him because he's good at what he does..........hmmm. It's not hard to be a heel. It is way easier than winning the crowd over as a face. Most people didn't like him as a face. You can't judge how good someone is by them being a heel. Why couldn't he get over as a face if he is so good?

 

[TLK]

Not everyone gets over as a face right away. Remember how awful Rocky Maivia was? Are you saying The Rock isn't good at what he does? He turned heel, got over, and was over for life. Who's to say the same won't happen with Bryan? I'm not trying to compare their talents - Rocky is far more charismatic and better on the mic whereas Bryan is the superior in-ring talent - but it's false to claim that anybody who doesn't initially get over as a face is a failure. Bryan won the MitB briefcase out of nowhere then did nothing as a babyface until cashing in whereas Rocky was immediately thrown into the mix as the sole survivor upon his debut.

 

[TimeIsWasting]

You are right The Future. It's like that saying.......It's better to reign in hell, than be a servant in heaven. That really does apply with the guys you spoke of. It makes sense. Not all of them are mediocre obviously. Most of them are though. It makes sense to be at the top or near the top of a crappy product then to be at the bottom of the superior product.

 

[TheFuture]

For one not everyone gets over as a face right away. For two some people are better as a heel, which may very well be the case for Bryan Danielson. The flaw in your logic though is, you could argue getting over as a good heel is just as difficult as getting over as a good face. If it were so easy people like Drew McIntyre, Dolph Ziggler, Jack Swagger, David Otunga, and Lord Tensai would be over as heels yet not a single one of them can draw a consistent reaction from the crowd to save their lives.

 

[TimeIsWasting]

David Otunga is over. As far as the others they don't talk hardly at all. They are not true heels anyways. They are nothing more than spot wrestlers. In Zigglers case, he helps people look better than they are. How can you be a heel if you don't talk? How can you be a heel if you don't take shots at the faces? How can you be a heel if you don't piss the fans off by talking?

 

[TimeIsWasting]

TLK, Sure the rock was bad when he first came out. However, he still got over, even if for a short time. Bryan never got over. Wasn't Bryan a heel first? Rocks first face run got overshadowed by the rise of Stone Cold. WWE pulled a fast one on us by having Bryan win the MITB briefcase. They thought it would get him over. It did not work. Also, when Bryan came out and said he was going to wait and cash it in for the main event at mania, that was the end of it. Fans were not behind it. They had to turn him heel at that point, cause their plan failed. WWE couldn't even write this guy in to beat the big guys legitimately. Why? Cause nobody can buy into it. They could write him in to beating CM Punk. Why? Cause CM Punk is small as well and more of a wrestler.

 

[dman1373]

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David Otunga is over. As far as the others they don't talk hardly at all. They are not true heels anyways. They are nothing more than spot wrestlers. In Zigglers case, he helps people look better than they are. How can you be a heel if you don't talk? How can you be a heel if you don't take shots at the faces? How can you be a heel if you don't piss the fans off by talking?

if you consider otunga over but daniel bryan no over than your fucking stupid.

Now this whole thread is just one guy parroting what a heel commentator says(which is funny because heel commentators are supposed to be full of shit.) and then denys any facts and since he obviously didn't see daniel bryan in the indies he thinks those years were worthless. He forgets that daniel bryan was a star in New Japan over 8 years ago, so his claim that he didn't reach the big time in 10 years is bullshit(since he admitted that new japan was a top tier promotion). He just hates daniel bryan and nothing anyone will say will do anything but fuel this trolls bullshit. And scene

 

[TLK]

TLK, Sure the rock was bad when he first came out. However, he still got over, even if for a short time. Bryan never got over. Wasn't Bryan a heel first? Rocks first face run got overshadowed by the rise of Stone Cold. WWE pulled a fast one on us by having Bryan win the MITB briefcase. They thought it would get him over. It did not work. Also, when Bryan came out and said he was going to wait and cash it in for the main event at mania, that was the end of it. Fans were not behind it. They had to turn him heel at that point, cause their plan failed. WWE couldn't even write this guy in to beat the big guys legitimately. Why? Cause nobody can buy into it. They could write him in to beating CM Punk. Why? Cause CM Punk is small as well and more of a wrestler.

I thought Bryan was a face when he debuted on NXT? He was Miz's protege, but was still a face if I recall correctly. You're setting up a double standard w/The Rock comparison. Rock's face run was overshadowed by Austin. OK, let's roll with that for a moment. Rocky debuted @ Survivor Series '96, yet Austin didn't really turn face until Mania 13. Fans had already turned on Rocky by then. Bryan was cheered heavily when he won the briefcase. Yes, they were in Chicago, but winning the briefcase was a huge shock and for a moment, it got him over. It's not Bryan's fault that he was scripted to announce that he'd cash in at Mania. You claim that this plan didn't work, but you're looking at it the wrong way. In hindsight, it did work because him cashing in unexpectedly is what got him over as a heel. Little guys are never supposed to have a believable chance of beating the large guys. They're always billed as underdogs, so that point is irrelevant.

 

[TimeIsWasting]

Michael Cole is over. It's a simple formula. Thanks for proving my point about heels. Your GM was over in Japan as well. New Japan wrestling was a top tier promotion. It fell off. Tensai was over in japan, hell Bob Sapp was a god in japan. Ultimately, rejects go to Japan to get over now and have for the last decade or so. I don't hate Bryan there are some things that are admirable about the guy. Bryan is over. I never said he wasn't. I just don't understand it and why people love him so much.

 

[akrassikauda]

My turn

I very rarely post on here. I got bored and decided to post a thread. I came off like a douchebag because I expressed my opinion and asked a question? How are any of you different than me? I love you talking about my grammar like I really care. Funny though one of your last statements "You're just letting your blind bias against some guy YOU doesn't even know cloud your judgement" hmmm..........does that sound proper? Furthermore, I said the things about people being losers because of actual statements from real people. Also, I guess it struck a nerve with some because perhaps it is true. I thought this about people who supported him before I even came on here. You all are marks............sorry but it is true.

The reason you got slammed for 11 pages so far is because you came in forum without doing your research and tried to impose your opinion on others even when you where confronted with facts.Hers a fact Bryan Danielson was in the WWF as a jobber just like Edge Christian and the Hardy's youtube a match on Velocity The American Dragon vs an up and coming John Cena.Even then Danielsons name rang out in the indies so lets not pretend the WWE didnt know who this guy was.

It's not blind bias it's just facts,wrestling fans love a success story of hard work and dedication that's where the YES chants come from because finally Danielson like others have achieved his dream and YES! finally someone got rid of the stupid WHAT! chants at least for a second. YES also means that he has finally made it where others are content to stay in the minor leagues while he worked to be a big star in the majors something that those with a brain could appreciate face it he took one word and got over YES! when was the last time CM Punk got a 50/50 crowd reaction Daniel Bryan...CM Punk.

For you to say that people who support him are losers is just funny haha my dick wants to laugh.We support him not because we're marks because there are threads about Bryan asking what he needs to do to get better because of his talent or are the powers that be holding him back, why doesn't he get freedom on the mic as one poster stated before on NXT Bryan cut a promo before Punk's "shoot" going after Cole,WWE,Otunga it was good I couldn't believe they actually allowed him to do that. Last thing is, a smark who calls others marks for not agreeing with his smarky OP now I haven't seen it all but that's just the nature of a smark.

 

[TimeIsWasting]

Sure little guys are never supposed to have a believable chance of beating the large guys. But, there were other little guys that have beaten big guys legitimately. Not using gimmicks and bs for him to secure wins. He didn't earn those wins he got over those guys. Then they had Sheamus end that crap, because that is what should of happen in the other instances. He was only cheered for winning the briefcase because of shock value. You could of done the same thing with others and they would have been cheered to. As far as stone cold is concerned his run with Austin 3:16 began in june of 96. He was gaining steam. You are right Bryan was somewhat of a face in NXT. I forgot about that lousy crap.

 

[TLK]

Sure little guys are never supposed to have a believable chance of beating the large guys. But, there were other little guys that have beaten big guys legitimately. Not using gimmicks and bs for him to secure wins. He didn't earn those wins he got over those guys. Then they had Sheamus end that crap, because that is what should of happen in the other instances. He was only cheered for winning the briefcase because of shock value. You could of done the same thing with others and they would have been cheered to. As far as stone cold is concerned his run with Austin 3:16 began in june of 96. He was gaining steam. You are right Bryan was somewhat of a face in NXT. I forgot about that lousy crap.

That was his gimmick because he was a heel. Edge, a much larger athelete than Bryan, was a cowardly heel as well. He got cheap wins over larger opponents because that's the type of heel he was. Did Edge suck?

Others were getting booed when they got close to the briefcase, so I don't think you could've substituted just anyone into that equation to achieve the same crowd reaction. After Austin 3:16 was born, Austin was gaining steam as a heel, which Punk did before MitB last summer, and as Bryan is doing now. Austin didn't really turn face until the match with Hart in '97. When Bryan turns face again, I'm sure he'll be far more successful than he was in his previous face run.

 

[TimeIsWasting]

Do you agree with the other WWE stars saying the Yes chant? It seems like they have used others and the Si chant to get the yes chant over. People act as if he did this all by himself. Edge did not suck,but would Edge have been as big as he got had he not taken all of the bumps he did? I don't think so. You are right though they wrote Bryan the same way they did Edge. I still think it takes away from their credibility. I always felt that Edge was good enough, even as a heel to win matches cleanly. I also think that Bryan from a wrestling stand point is good enough to beat guys cleanly. But it is hard to believe that a guy that is significantly smaller would be able to beat the large guys. Edge wasn't exactly a small guy.

 

[dman1373]

Michael Cole is over. It's a simple formula. Thanks for proving my point about heels. Your GM was over in Japan as well. New Japan wrestling was a top tier promotion. It fell off. Tensai was over in japan, hell Bob Sapp was a god in japan. Ultimately, rejects go to Japan to get over now and have for the last decade or so. I don't hate Bryan there are some things that are admirable about the guy. Bryan is over. I never said he wasn't. I just don't understand it and why people love him so much.

I was saying your just parroting what michael cole used to say, which is just bullshit. And that is what led to people talking shit on him in the first place, the wwe had their announcer say he had no personality but never let the guy talk. And now he has been put into fueds and been given the mic and has shown personality. He is a character that is just a condescending prick that acts like he is ten times better than either guys he hardly beats or guys that beat him. And he plays the character very well. That is why people like his character. Then in the ring he is just a vicious son of a bitch. And thats why people like him in the ring.

Now onto this whole japan thing. I was pointing out that you were contradicting yourself. You said that Daniel Bryan took too long to get to the big time and that great wrestlers never take that long(which is bullshit in its own right). Then you admitted that New Japan Pro Wrestling was the big time. Well Daniel bryan was in New Japan over 8 years ago. That means it didn't take him 10 years to get to the big time.

Now you act as if nothing in the minor league matters. Now this is the shamefull part. Theres alot of great wrestlers that will never make it to wwe that are on the indies. That doesn't mean there not good. And if you watched daniel bryan while he was in the indies, then you would see what everyone else saw in him. He cut great promos and had great matches. He is just an all around great wrestler.

 

[akrassikauda]

Sure little guys are never supposed to have a believable chance of beating the large guys. But, there were other little guys that have beaten big guys legitimately. Not using gimmicks and bs for him to secure wins. He didn't earn those wins he got over those guys. Then they had Sheamus end that crap, because that is what should of happen in the other instances. He was only cheered for winning the briefcase because of shock value. You could of done the same thing with others and they would have been cheered to. As far as stone cold is concerned his run with Austin 3:16 began in june of 96. He was gaining steam. You are right Bryan was somewhat of a face in NXT. I forgot about that lousy crap.

Shock Value! Shock value was Jack Swagger winning the MITB

The only reason Sheamus won so quiclkly was WWE's attempt at setting a new WM record and did you see the disgust on fans when it happened,they knew Sheamus was going to win it hell these boards where filled with posts saying Sheamus needed to win to bring prestege back to the Royal Rumble winner people where upset because it was done before they sat down.

He wasn't somewhat of a face he was the face,Cole was the heel Cole was in full douchebag mode and railed against the crowd favorite on that show you called crap that at the end of it Bryan was famous for doing something that got him fired.