DRAW POWER- Both men could sell out arenas in an instant, but if I had to choose one, it would have to be Hogan. He lasted longer in the federation than Steve did, which kind of gave him the edge in this one.
I'll agree with you on that, for sure. This one does not need a lot of explaining, to be completely honest. Not to mention, Hulk Hogan was a focal point of other organizations such as the AWA and WCW, yes we know what happened to WCW towards the end. And while Hogan's star power has been the subject of a lot of controversy there, let's not forget he wasn't the only ego in that company. I'd dare speculate that WCW's financial woes and creative stumbles was beyond just Hogan's hands, considering how before he even arrived in the promotion there was always a sense of upheaval and unpredictability. Blaming that solely on one person is irrational.
IN RING ABILITY- Steve Austin was passable in the ring, but Hulk Hogan couldn't even hold a candle to most of the current WWE roster, so Austin wins this one.
I'll raise the bullshit flag on this one, Hogan of course rested on some laurels, I don't think you can argue you that, nor could I. If you look at him next to Ric Flair, he definitely wasn't a 60 minute man, but that doesn't take away from what he could do in the ring. Sure, he never did a lot in the way of scientific wrestling, but that doesn't mean he couldn't. There were matches that required he rise to the occasion in that regard, and he did. Granted, this was mostly done in his overseas outings, but look at it this way, he had a 20 plus minute match with The Ultimate Warrior at Mania, that in itself should be considered an accomplishment, since The Warrior's matches for the most part were shorter than his ring entrances. Steve Austin's typical outings in the WWF consisted of mudhole stomping, Thesz Presses, and the double middle finger before the kick to the gut and the Stone Cold Stunner. An entertaining thing time and again no doubt, but it's by far a very formulaic dynamic just like Hulk Hogan's cupping the ear, his Hulking up, and of course his famous big boot and legdrop combo.
Both men are examples of being formulaic, plain and simple.
BETTER WORKER- Again, Steve wins this one. He was just as loyal to the WWF as John Cena is today. Hogan on the other hand, put hardly anyone over. Remember that one time when he buried Bret Hart AND Yokozuna on the same night? What a boob.
Oh give me a break! If what they say is true and that "walk-out" by Steve Austin in 2002 wasn't kayfabe, and it was 100 percent shoot, which I still doubt, considering that WWE Confidential did an entire segment on it. Who knows though, I think most angles that have that "worked shoot" vibe are based in some sort of reality. And let's be honest, if that's the case, I don't care what anyone says, Steve Austin had his own ego too. If he really did refuse to want to work with Brock Lesnar because it wasn't hyped as a PPV match, I say whatever. Austin's starpower wasn't what it was in the late 90s, guys like The Rock, Triple H, Kurt Angle and Undertaker were doing rather well for the WWF during the end of the Attitude Era in the 2000s. While Austin was rehabbing from injuries (again can't fault him for that) these guys were keeping the WWF afloat. Not to say Austin wasn't missed, but at the same time business wasn't falling apart because of him. So by the time new talent like Brock Lesnar came in, there would have been no crime in him getting a win over Austin, even if it wasn't on PPV. As far as your citing Hogan's burial of Yokozuna and Bret Hart, give me some more proof. It's funny how those supposed magazine pictures of Hogan and Hart having a "tug of war" over the belt have never surfaced. But yet people are dead set into thinking they have.
They already tried having Hogan put over a babyface with the Ultimate Warrior and it failed. Granted, Hulk Hogan's impromptu title win over Yokozuna could not be looked at as a "WTF moment", but at that time, it was a surprise that no one expected. I mean title changes these days are a lot more ridiculous with the anti-climatic and over used Money In The Bank briefcase. So we can say what we want about Hogan's impromptu title win, but I'm sure it wasn't just his decision alone, after all, if memory serves right Vince McMahon is the guy that steers the ship. Say what you want about Hogan's star power, but by that point, I'm sure Vince had all the leverage since Hogan was on his way out. Besides, Hogan lost the title a couple of months later in crushing and tragic fashion, the same way Bruno Sammartino and Bob Backlund lost their titles.
So let's spare the armchair expertise and stop acting like you knew what happened at WrestleMania IX, because I am pretty sure you don't. As far as "loyalty" goes, the way I look at it, if you fulfill a contractual obligation, you're entitled to see what other options are out there for you. Hogan obviously still had a name that he could lend to another brand and find success. He did that with WCW about a year after he left the WWF. All the power to him, that's just what business is all about. While I commend and enjoy seeing guys like The Undertaker stay with the WWF/E for over 20 years, but Hogan had an opening and he took it. Vince supposedly wrote him off and thought that after 10 years with the WWF, we've seen the last of what Hogan could offer as a big time player. It's obvious that wasn't the case.
OVERALL- It's very difficult to pick, mostly because both men defined the eras that they were in. Hogan promoted the cheesy, stereotypical babyface of the 80's, while Steve Austin showcased the rebellious and vulgar personality of the Attitude Era.
Oh bullshit, Hogan was anything but the typical cheesy babyface! Of course, he still pandered and there was a lot of mondo good guy rhetoric and propaganda. But please, he was nowhere near the level of straight up fan favorite that Sammartino and Backlund ever were. Hulk Hogan was the type of guy in the storylines that never hesitated to rake an eye or use his ripped shirt to choke out an adversary. I don't know what WWF you were watching to get that ridiculous idea.
Granted, Steve Austin played it differently and was obviously a more rebellious and aggressive figure. But at the same time, let's not overlook Hogan's deviation from the faces of yesteryear.
But when it's all said and done, most IWC members will say that Stone Cold was the bigger man in this match-up. He had everything. Hulk Hogan, on the other hand, is still trying to maintain a decent reputation with the hardcore fanbase.
Yeah because let's be honest most IWC members are completely misguided. I personally don't care about offending anyone on topics like this. And judging by your rationale, I'm almost willing to put you right into that category. How do you really want to define reputation? I mean yeah, I've no doubt that Hulk Hogan might be a difficult person to deal with, but I'm not giving Austin a free pass either. No one who is famous and influential in an enterprise like professional wrestling can be without an ego. No way, no how. Let's not put these people's personal character on a pedestal. I'll be the first to admit that Hulk Hogan's (or Terry Bollea as he should be referred to in this context) personal life isn't one to exactly emulate. But Steve Austin? Seriously? Steve Austin's personal life isn't one I'd necessarily want to have either. Let's not forget this guy went to court on a couple of occasions on the charge of domestic assault. And I might add that those court cases involve different women.
If you have any sense of rationality, which I am highly doubting, then you'd see that someone who tries to abuse clout due to star power is not in the same category as someone who actually strikes women. That doesn't change how I feel about Austin's on air portrayal of his character, because he was entertained immensely by him. But seriously man, give me a goddamned break about basing these men's legend on their reputation.
If the rest of the IWC wants to actually put a wife beater on a pedestal, then I'll gladly be in the minority to disagree with such notions.
Which leads me to my next question, why do so many of us in the IWC predicate a legend on their "personal character"? Shouldn't we all know by now that entertainers and athletes are far from being humanitarians?
You're entitled to your opinion, but that doesn't make it any less a bullshit one.