Who will go further?

[Find'er Woo'er Ryder]

I've decided to start a new thread series called "Who will go further". I will give two superstars in the WWE and you vote who will go futher in the business. I will list the two superstars accomplishments as well. So first up is:

John Morrison

Ohio Valley Wrestling
OVW Southern Tag Team Championship (1 time) – with Joey Mercury[2]

Pro Wrestling Illustrated
PWI Most Improved Wrestler of the Year (2009)
PWI Tag Team of the Year (2005) with Joey Mercury[127]
PWI ranked him #27 of the 500 best singles wrestlers of the year in the PWI 500 in 2010[128]

World Wrestling Entertainment
ECW World Championship (1 time)[129]
World Tag Team Championship (1 time) – with The Miz[68]
WWE Intercontinental Championship (3 times)[76][130][131]
WWE Tag Team Championship (4 times) – with Joey Mercury (3) and The Miz (1)[21][23][24][61]
Slammy Award for Tag Team of the Year (2008) – with The Miz[67]
Slammy Award for Best WWE.com Exclusive (2008) – with The Miz[67]
WWE Tough Enough III with Matt Cappotelli[11]

Wrestling Observer Newsletter
Tag Team of the Year (2008) with The Miz

And up next is:

Daniel Bryan

All Pro Wrestling
APW Worldwide Internet Championship (1 time)[136]
King of the Indies (2001)[8][137]

All Star Wrestling
ASW World Heavy Middleweight Championship (1 time)[4]
East Coast Wrestling Association

ECWA Tag Team Championship (1 time) – with Low Ki

Evolve
Match of the Year (2010) vs. Munenori Sawa on September 11[138]

Extreme Canadian Championship Wrestling
NWA Canadian Junior Heavyweight Championship (1 time)[139]

Full Impact Pro
FIP Heavyweight Championship (1 time)[8]

International Wrestling Association
IWA Puerto Rico Heavyweight Championship (1 time)[89]

Memphis Championship Wrestling
MCW Southern Light Heavyweight Championship (1 time)[4]
MCW Southern Tag Team Championship (1 time) – with Spanky[4]

NWA Mid-South
NWA Southern Junior Heavyweight Championship (1 time)[140]

New Japan Pro Wrestling
IWGP Junior Heavyweight Tag Team Championship (1 time)[8] – with Curry Man[4]
Best of the American Super Juniors (2004)[141]

Pro Wrestling Illustrated
PWI ranked him #13 of the best 500 singles wrestlers in the PWI 500 in 2008[142]

Pro Wrestling Guerrilla
PWG World Championship (2 times)[8][143]

Pro Wrestling Noah
GHC Junior Heavyweight Championship (1 time)[8][123]

Pro Wrestling Report
Independent Wrestler of the Year (2006)[144]

Ring of Honor
ROH Pure Championship (1 time)[38]
ROH World Championship (1 time)[29]
Survival of the Fittest (2004)[4][8]

Texas Wrestling Alliance
TWA Tag Team Championship (1 time) – with Spanky[4]

westside Xtreme wrestling
wXw World Heavyweight Championship (1 time)[145]
Ambition 1 (2010)[88]

World Series Wrestling
WSW Heavyweight Championship (1 time)[146]

World Wrestling Entertainment
WWE United States Championship (1 time, current)[106]
Slammy Award for Cole in Your Stocking (2010) – attacking Michael Cole on NXT[147]
Slammy Award for Shocker of the Year (2010) – the debut of The Nexus[147]

Wrestling Observer Newsletter[148]
Best Technical Wrestler (2005–2010)[8][149][150]
Match of the Year (2007)[8] vs. Takeshi Morishima on August 25
Most Outstanding Wrestler (2006–2010)[8][149][150]
Most Outstanding Wrestler of the Decade (2000–2009)[151]

Keep in mind that this is in the non-spam section. Please back up your answers.

 

[Disturbed]

Good series idea. I didn't know Daniel Bryan was wrestler of the decade from the wrestling obsever. Well then, to be honest I think Daniel Bryan is awesome in the ring but I don't think he will go to far in WWE. He just doesn't have the mic skills or the size. If Vince doesn't want Christian WOrld Champion then why would he want Daniel Bryan. I think Bryan would make for a decent champion and I would love for him to win it but I think Vince McMahon will hold him back. I see Bryan as a multi time US and IC Champion when his career is over. He might have one World title if any but I seriously doubt it. He might have a few tag title reigns too. As for Morrison, I think he will be a multi time WWE/World champion. He has the look and his mic skills are underated. I would much rather see him heel but apparently creative is high on his current persona and I see him going much farther than Daniel Bryan. At least, that's what it looks like at the moment.

 

[thephenomenalone2015]

Nice idea, hoping for more.

I couldn't see Bryan go as far as I see Morrison going. The whole list of Bryan's accomplishments are very great, but they were all in "Indies". We have seen WWE push indy stars before, (CM Punk and Jericho) but they had a different look to themselves then Bryan. sort of the one that Morrison has, the "I am a real wrestler" sort of thing with a strong build and a uncanny ability to make a match look good.

Also, Morrison has that look and has ability and agility to spare. His mic skills are rapidly improving and he could become world champ sooner rather than later.

 

[themusicman]

I really like both these guys for very different reasons, Morrison is a great high flyer, good technically and improving on the mic. He is being given an opportunity and he seems to be running with it. Bryan is outstanding in the ring, I mean really outstanding, his abilities speak for themselves and although we havent seen it so much yet in WWE there is evidence that shows he can hang with bigger guys as well.
The difference in success however will be down to how they are booked and gimmicks. Morrison is being booked well and looks comfortable with the character he is playing, over the last couple of years he has tweeked it slightly and now he seems o be at home. Bryan however has been given a HORRIBLE gimmick with the ladies man thing, which is also exposing his lack of experience of delivering quality mic work. Give him a manager who can talk, not a diva, and have him be just what he is, a great ring worker. But until they let him lose his current stupid character then Morrison must surely be favourite to go further.

 

[The_Reptile_]

I have o admit, I'm on the fence on this one. I personally think Morrison will go farther, He just has the total package as far as WWE standards go. Not to say DB won't go far, but I think the highest he'll be is the upper mid-card. Consistently challenging for the world title, getting some big feuds, and usually putting on the best matches, but I don't see him consistently headlining PPV's, and definitely not Wrestlemania. Morrison, on the other hand, I can certainly see that happening. Keep in mind, however, that the upper mid-card is the workhorse division of WWE, so if you're in there, then you pretty much in good standing with company.

 

[fenfool]

I'm fairly surprised that WWE has allowed either man to get as far as they have. Morrison doesn't have great mic skills, but Daniels are worse, in terms of what WWE looks for. He's smaller, too, which is always a detriment to Vince...Morrison has had some great high-profile matches lately, including a title match with the Miz that really could have been a PPV main event if built properly. He was rewarded for this by going over Daniels in a non-title match, because I guess losing a world title match means you wouldn't be in line for a U.S. title match either. But I digress.

I think Morrison will eventually get a world title reign or two...I'm going to say that Daniels will get a title shot or two, but I don't see him winning the strap...so I will say Morrison will go farther. But I like what both of them have done recently (let's pretend the Bella Twins angle never happened, can't blame that on Dragon), and I think both are a big asset to the company.

 

[THTRobtaylor]

Overall, Morrison has the bigger upside in WWE as he is far further along the "Sports Entertainment" track than Bryan.

Admittedly DB is doing far better than anyone thought he would a year on from his NXT debut in the character department but he has to be at the "Johnny Nitro" stage right now in terms of character development. The thing with the Bella's is a step in the right direction, he is almost the "Glee Club" of WWE right now. If they keep with the nerdish stuff over time he will get better, but it's hard to come back then to main event.

Morrison's character has evolved and while I'd prefer any title run to be as a heel, the fans just aren't ready for that. Since the parkour stuff came out I have belived that is the thing that will put him over the top cos it is unique and could translate to mainstream/the films division really well... I'd watch a Morrison v Tony Jaa film for sure... and thats why JoMo will go farther.

 

[byrnside]

I'm going with Morrison as well. Don't get me wrong, I like Daniel Bryan, a lot, maybe prboably more than I like Morrison. He's got that real wrestling thing going on a lot like Benoit had. But there in lies the problem. Guys like that might win a world title or two just because of the work they've put in, but they don't become huge stars. John Morrison has that flare.

 

[Quoted For Emphasis]

I really really really want to say Danielson will go further with the company, but I think that byrnside made the a good point. He's got that real wrestling thing that's good for a World Title or two but he won't be huge.

Morrison will go further because of the unorthodox style in the ring, his consistent giant pop when his music hits, and his consistent improvements on the mic and in the ring. As long as he can either

A. Stop botching Starship Pain

or

B. Get a better finisher

he will be golden.

I don't see either of them being 10-Time World Champions, but I see Morrison maybe getting more World Titles than Danielson.

Although, I sincerely hope I'm wrong.

 

[Jack-Hammer]

Generally speaking, I honestly don't know at this point.

John Morrison has had a number of, reportedly, high profile critics of him backstage that just haven't believed that he's had what it takes. However, after Morrison's performance at the Rumble and on Raw, he's gotten mad praise from most of those same critics. Recently, there've been articles published by a former WWE creative member, I can't remember the name, but I'm pretty sure we've all read them. The creative member has said that Vince McMahon has had doubts about Morrison and has the feeling that JoMo wouldn't win in a real fight despite his great look. The creative member said that Vince thought the opposite for Daniel Bryan and that his ability and look had a unique quality. I'm not quoting word for word obviously, but the report seems to indicate that, as of a few weeks ago, Vince seemed higher on Bryan than Morrison.

Morrison has been in the WWE for a long time, he's won a lot of titles, has had a number of interesting feuds and some great matches. One big thing that held JoMo back was the fact that he failed a drug test around 2.5 years ago. With the specter of the Benoit Tragedy hanging over the WWE's head, failing a WWE drug test often results in a wrestler's career coming to an abrupt halt and staying in limbo until/unless said wrestler manages to show management that he's trustworthy first and foremost. JoMo has gotten a serious push over the last 6 months, though it's still a little unclear at this time whether or not JoMo will ever be a World Champion in WWE.

Daniel Bryan, outside of NXT, has really only been part of the WWE for about 6 months. When Bryan was fired this past summer, it generated a firestorm of internet buzz and activity. Over the course of two days, the thread discussion Bryan's release garnered almost a thousand posts. In the near 2 years I've been posting in WZ, I've never seen anything else like that. Bryan was brought back at SummerSlam and, since then, has had a respectable career in the WWE. He's been the United States Champion for about 4.5 months now, gets time on Raw each week, has wins over some big stars in the company, has been involved in some of the best WWE matches of 2010 and continues to generate interest. It's true that his push has slowed down some but I can't say I'm surprised about that. As I said, Bryan's been a champion almost his entire time spent as a member of the Raw roster. I don't think it'll take very much at all for the WWE to get Bryan back on track. There's only so far that this "feud" he has with the Bella Twins can go and only so long it can last. For Bryan, I think it's too soon to ultimately judge what will happen to him. I guarantee, however, that if Bryan ever does become a World Champion in the WWE, the haters will be coming out of the woodwork. Whenever a young/fresh talent in the WWE gets pushed into a big high profile spot, you'll see the standard thread asking "What does anyone really see in..." or ".... is extremely overrated."

It happens to just about anyone in the WWE these days. Sheamus, Drew McIntyre, Dolph Ziggler, The Miz, Alberto Del Rio & John Morrison are some of the more recent examples. I have little doubt it'd happen to Bryan and, of course, there'll also be the comments like "Bryan doesn't have the size to be a World Champion" and all that shit.

 

[MizterColemine]

I think Morrison has a better chance on the ladder with the WWE. At least he will get to the top before Bryan.
Morrison is flashy, athletic, agile, fast, and haves moves that look great, and he looks great himself, so he's more appealing to kids. He also has a WWE man loyalty factor, just from having gotten his start on Tough Enough and having paid his dues within the E and it's subsidiaries is something you can't help but think that Vince and the officials love the idea of.... Someone who's been trained and developed by them for years and to have it pay off, partially through feuds and working relationships that have been brewing for years, since his character's inception, and to be somewhat original.
Bryan on the other hand, has definitely paid his share of dues, but (speaking of wrestler's who came to WWE having already had a reputation) he's no Chris Benoit... He doesn't have the build, the intensity, or the tenacity. But the latter two are things he can work on. And he's no Chris Jericho... He doesn't have the charisma or mic skill, but those are things he can work on. He will never be either of these guys but he develop his own WWE persona as he goes along, and that will take time, and he hasn't been with WWE a long time. Relatively, Morrison has.
Morrison is ready for the big time, and he has WWE senority in a sense. But I do think Danielson can make it. Time will tell if he sticks around long enough to do so. I think he should have a teammate or manager to do his talking for him when the time comes to Main Event... that is if he doesn't by then have the promo skills to hold his own. So far I think there are a lot of people like me who have been bored with Danielson in a kind of "what's the big deal about him" kinda way, since there are those of us who didn't follow indies. But now that the Bellas are gone and he's been showing cool chemistry with his rookie, who's charismatic and likeable I'm starting to tolerate him more and warm up to him being a mainstay. But I'll still mark for Morrison, who I followed since Tough Enough.

 

[Karaoke Superstar]

This one is pretty hard to call. I'm sure most people think Morrison hands down, but the way I see it it's a lot closer.

John Morrison is the safer bet so he's who I'm going with. He has the look, the physique, the size, the skills, athleticism and popularity. His mic skills are not the best, but not the worst either. Some wrestlers just need that one breakout feud to improve all around and settle down in their characters. Even if they don't become great, it doesn't always matter. Jeff Hardy was garbage on the mic but that didn't matter because of his popularity. Right now he's on his way up and just a few steps away from the top.

Daniel Bryan has great skills, puts on great matches, is well known and popular for coming out of the indies, and has climbed the ranks of WWE very quickly. Being put in a program with the guy they were grooming to be the next WWE champ AND beating him cleanly for his US title all within a couple months with the company mean they have lot's of faith in Bryan to give him that immediate push. His size will always work against him, but I believe he is good enough to overcome that. Like Morrison, he's not the greatest on the mic, but not the worst either. What little mic time we have seen from him in the WWE he has came across as very believable and realistic in what he was saying. The promos with Cole on NXT could have easily been mistaken for a shoot if you didn't know better. I think if he continues to work hard and adapt to the big league he will end up with a great career.

 

[JGlass]

For the time being it looks like it'll be JoMo, but it's still far to early to tell. John Morrison has taken years to get to the upper midcard, and Daniel Bryan is less than a year into his WWE career and is already making his way to the upper midcard. JoMo will certainly be in the main event very soon (if he's not already), but Daniel Bryan could be there in a year or two himself.

Additionally there's that leaked story that came out about a week ago. If it's true, then Vince McMahon is much higher on DBD than he is on Morrison, and we all know that Vinny Mac gets what Vinny Mac wants.

So like I said, it's too early to tell, but if I had to guess I'd say Daniel Bryan will wind up the more successful. The WWE is kind of just trying to keep him visible until they can come up with something worthwhile to do with him. When they do, DBD will get red hot with the fans again, and the WWE will be all but forced to put him in the main event.

 

[Alastor]

Morrison. He has the look and moves that is unique from others in the company right now. He is slowly building up a identity with which his fans can relate to. He is now the guy that flies around like Spiderman. With the correct build he can be a future main event star.

Bryan is like Beniot or a Shelton Benjamin in that fans will cheer for him when he is competing in the ring but after the match will forget about him. There is little in his on-air appearance for fans to identify with. Bryan would need another big name in the match to sell the card while Morrison has the potential to be the name that sells the card in the future.

 

[xcalypsox]

This is a tough one to choose from because Bryan is the more technically sound one and can wrestle with anyone and make them look like gold in the ring, but he's not the sort of guy that Vince will usually give a world title too.

Morrison on the other hand puts on amazing performances time after time and just when we all think he's going to get a chance for a title run he goes back to the mid card. However i do think as soon as he improves on the mic and stops using the Starship Pain then he will be in the main event for good.

So my vote is for Morrison I think he will be a multi time World title holder and be in the main event for years to come. Bryan will probably have one good World title run but spend most of his time being in the upper mid card and chasing the title for the majority of his time but he will always have memorable matches.

 

[Tequila Dave]

John Morrison is in the midst of a major push. With creative and the fans (not just the IWC) behind him, the sky is the limit for JoMo. He's WWE made, his exciting moveset appeals to the WWE's fansbase, and he's relatively young. However, this isn't the first push John Morrison has recieved, and despite his overness is the past, his generic character and poor mic skills have dragged him down to the midcard before.

Daniel Bryan is hugely over...with the IWC. His biggest fans don't, and probably never will, see Bryan as a WWE guy. I doubt this sits well with Vince McMahon. Also, as much as I love Bryan, (like Morrison) he's not very charasmatic. His look and character hardly screams main event, and his style of wrestling hasn't been amazingly recieved by the average fans (despite the fact the IWC adores it.) Also, Bryan has been fired before.

While I can't see either of these superstars doing anything hugely significant in their careers, I'm gonna give the edge to John Morrison. He's most likely gonna stick around in the WWE the longest, and in my eyes, that's going further in the business.

 

[EnergyWarrior]

I'll say Morrison.. I'm a Daniel Bryan mark, but Bryan's probably our next underdog, and Morrison may very well be the next top face. It is interesting to see what will happen.

 

[AntiChristDeicide]

Why can't we choose both? it all depends on how John Morrison and Daniel Bryan are used. Morrison is a great athlete he just need more mic skiils. If he would get a manager like Jim Mitchell or someone else, it might be good for him. As for Daniel Bryan, he is great wrestling wise and i heard him speak once so for the mic skills i can't judge but he might be good. Anyways as i was saying it all depends on how WWE uses them.

 

[The Brain]

Why can't we choose both? it all depends on how John Morrison and Daniel Bryan are used. Morrison is a great athlete he just need more mic skiils. If he would get a manager like Jim Mitchell or someone else, it might be good for him. As for Daniel Bryan, he is great wrestling wise and i heard him speak once so for the mic skills i can't judge but he might be good. Anyways as i was saying it all depends on how WWE uses them.

Of course it depends on how WWE uses them. I think that's what we're talking about here. I think Morrison is going to go further. Let's not forget Morrison is a product of Tough Enough. With Tough Enough coming back what better way to advertise the show than to show a proven success story. I expect a Morrison push when Tough Enough returns.

 

[Hulk Hogan's Brother]

My opinion is that both of them will go equally far. They will both occupy the upper midcard spot for the majority of their careers and occasionally main event a non big four PPV.

Both guys are similar in a lot of respects. Both are not that great on the mic though I do feel that Bryan can be somewhat good if he is given a good storyline to work with. Bryan is better in the ring too but it is Morrison who can pull off the more insane spots thus ensuring that he will always be popular among the fans.

The two of them remind me of RVD and Chris Benoit in more ways than one with Morrison being the one who reminds me of RVD. I think that both the guys will have an important part to play in the WWE in the coming years but I do not see either of them becoming a permanent main eventer at any point of their career.

 

[redeffect3]

They both will go far. John Morrison just has that "it" factor. Daniel Bryan is simply an amazing wrestler. Morrison is the works though, he is a great wrestler, good mic skills and amazing moments. Take this past rumble for example, the save when he jumped into the barricade. I feel in comparrison, Daniel Bryan will be like Chris Beniot (i dont mean it that way) and i feel John Morrison will be like Shawn Michaels. They will both go far though

 

[Heartachetonight926]

Morrison will go further than Bryan within the next couple of years, but I wouldn't be surprised if Bryan eventually get's his well deserved spotlight.

Oh and for all the people that have been saying these guy's have "Bad mic skills" I want you to watch these two videos....


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and

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Does this look like two guy's with "Bad" mic skills? Not to me.

 

[mikeyado]

We the gimmicks they both have at the moment: Morrison will go further by far. He is a total babyface and is getting huge pops, he appeals to youngsters in a big way: the glasses, the high flying moves and the ridiculous spots he can put on. He's extremely marketable and very decent in the ring. If he carries on the way he's going, he will have multiple world title reigns.

As far as Bryan goes, I think he suffers through the PG rating. At the moment his gimmick is that of a dork who gets the women and can put on wrestling clinics everytime he gets in the ring. Everybody acknowledges how talented he is, but with this gimmick he's destined to stay in the mid card. If he could be given a similar gimmick to that which he had in the indies: ultra-agressive, ultra-intimidating, head-kicking, trash talking lunatic, then it may be a different story. This gimmick would really appeal to older fans and could get him far more over than he currently is. However, this doesn't really tie in with the PG rating and we all know that Vince likes things done his way and I could honestly see him KO'ing a gimmick that was successful in the indies just to make a point. So as it is, I don't see him progressing beyong the US title picture unfortunately.

Im a mark for both of these guys though and would love to see them both right at the top of the tree, main eventing.

 

[GCoh]

I vote for Morrison, reason being I don't think WWE sees Daniel Bryan as World Champion, face it, you could be US Champion/IC champion hundreds of time in the WWE, but these days, if you don't capture multiple world titles, its considered a disappointment. Both are extremely talented, Bryan is a fantastic athletic, and probably the most technically sound wrestlers in the company, and Morrison is also a phenomenal athlete, but I think Morrison will hold the world title this year towards the summer. Daniel Bryan will be No.1 contender a few times and be put in Fatal 4 ways and 6 pack challenges during his time with WWE, but will never win it.

 

[GameOn]

Morrison is a great wrestler,and he is the better athlete.Also he has done more accomplishments than Daniel Bryan.
In my opinion,Morrison has a very good future,because he is talented and has done a lot of good stuff already.
Winning the ECW championship was the best moment for him imo,he proved to be a great and talented superstar,also beating CM Punk to it was not easy at all.

Daniel Bryan also has a bright future,but I don't see him getting as far as Morrison.
Being United states champion was very important to him actually.
I don't know if he will be participating in any world championship matches any soon,but he sure will be world champion in the future.